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Post  MoMo on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:32 pm

Hey Icke!!!!! yeah you...........who do you think your bullshittin? some mental midget shit 4 brainz?.

Icke is a deluded and dangerous demagogue..........
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. H. L. Mencken

He is a hatemongering, fearmongering liar.

He claims he is not antisemitic, then he goes on to lie and demonize the Jews and Israel.......who is he kidding besides himself? The useful idiots that hang on everyone of his words?
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/political-manipulation-mainmenu-72/42734-they-dare-not-speak-its-name-rothschild-zionism

David Icke Myth: Rothschild Zionism in its public expression is a political ideology based on a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine and a belief that the Jews are God's 'chosen race' with a God-given right to the 'promised land' of Israel (historically this is nonsense, as I show in my books)


The only thing he has shown in his books is he is an antisemitic gullible fool....... lmao
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFindex.html
MYTH
“The Jews have no claim to the land they call Israel.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFroots.html#1

A common misperception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, the Jews suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

The Jewish people base their claim to the Land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 2) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people; 3) the territory was captured in defensive wars and 4) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham.


David Icke Myth: They have sought to sell the 'Zionism-means-all-Jewish-people' lie so that they can condemn as 'anti-Semites' and 'racists' anyone who exposes the truth about Rothschild Zionism and its agents in government, banking, business, media, military etc.

Read this daveyboy:
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/Against_Zionists_not_Jews.htm

http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/

Zionism is the national self determination movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is the belief in a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people, in Israel. Zionism is the Jewish people's instantiation of the human right of self determination. 99% of Jews are supportive of the existance of the Jewish state - that makes them Zionists..............In summary
Almost all Jews (99%) are infact Zionists, but the definition Zionists (and infact almost all Jewish anti-Zionists) themselves use. If you use an antisemic defintion such as Zionism as Racist you can of course invent statistics as you please.
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Hey davey, this is pure 100% unadulterated bullshit......that makes you a lying sack of shit.

David Icke Myth:The world's most extreme racists are, after all, the Rothschild Zionists, anyway. Israel is an apartheid state every bit as much as were apartheid South Africa and apartheid America.

The Facts

Comparison of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict with Apartheid South AfricaThese days it is becoming very popular to compare the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with apartheid South Africa prior to 1994. It is an odious comparison wreaked with many half-truths and clichés. Both situations are so different that when one examines the situation one can note major differences. The idea of using this comparison is to delegitimize Israel's right to exist within secure and recognized borders and to justify the Palestinian methods of terror in order to destroy Israel.


In apartheid South Africa prior to 1994 before the first democratic elections in South Africa 's history, there was this odious apartheid system. Its main purpose was to maintain white minority rule at all costs and to keep the black majority disenfranchised and without basic human rights. These blacks were a reservoir of cheap labour to operate the white economy and to ensure white prosperity at their expense. Blacks had suffered immense injustice under this system. White South African Government spending on black education and their general community welfare was minimal. The gap between the black situation then and slavery was not very large.

Social intercourse between whites and blacks in those days was a relationship between the white master and the black, underpaid servant. The situation for non-white people was intolerable and even cruel. It was against the law for Blacks to travel freely in the country of their birth except if they had a pass (dompas) from the white authorities. After 9.00 p.m., there was a curfew and blacks were forbidden in the streets after that dreaded hour in many towns. These people were not terrorists. They were not people who threatened the whites in any way. Denial of their basic human rights was commonplace. There was the dreaded Immorality Act, which prevented mixed marriages and sex beyond the colour bar. Those who contravened the law were imprisoned. There were separate public facilities for blacks and whites. Laws forbade blacks to eat in white restaurants. Separate transport facilities, which resulted in overcrowded conditions in buses and trains, were part of this evil, cruel system. It was common to see police officers abusing and ill treating blacks for not having their pass (identity or reference book) on their person when being searched. The police pushed them into the back of the police van, and drove them to the police station where they spent a night in the lock up cell. Usually their white employers bailed out these unfortunate persons when they produced a permit that they were in his employ legally. Blacks could not purchase property in white areas, as this was a contravention of the notorious Group Areas Act.

Anybody who opposed the apartheid system in those days – especially if he was black – was accused of being an agitator or communist. The police arrested him for 90 days without trial or recourse to a lawyer. This was increased later to 180 days detention and the police officer even had the power to keep a person imprisoned indefinitely without trial. These incidents occurred during the period of 1950 – 1990. Apartheid was at its zenith in those years. It was illegal to criticise the white government for its apartheid practices. There was limited criticism in those days by white opposition parties in parliament. However, the law controlled the limit of legal criticism. The abuse of prisoners for obtaining information was legal and encouraged. The police tortured the famous black leader, Steve Biko, to death when he was in prison for "anti-apartheid crimes" in 1977.

The majority of South African citizens was against apartheid and wanted to be part of a multi racial South Africa . The leaders of the liberation movements never spoke of destroying the white man and denying him rights in South Africa. Their fight was a justified fight for freedom and human rights as well as equality before the law.

If one were to contrast that with the situation in the Middle East, it is different. Israel 's Arab neighbours threatened her from the day of her establishment in 1948. There was never a desire to recognise Israel 's right to exist. What has this to do with South African style apartheid? Where is the comparison?

The blacks in their liberation struggle never targeted innocent people by suicide bombings or terror. There were sporadic incidents by some black extremists, but the mainstream liberation movements in South Africa went underground. Their leaders, who were living in exile, condemned this violence.

Perhaps, there may be a vague parallel of apartheid in the occupied territories since June 1967. The occupation is a complex problem that is the result of a war foisted onto Israel . Israel, being militarily superior, occupied territory in the Six Day War of June 1967 and made the fatal mistake of encouraging Jewish settlements there when it was obvious that there was no Arab partner who was willing to sign a peace treaty insuring the return of occupied territory as part of an overall peace agreement. The occupation and rule of the Palestinians is a tragic result of the wars that Israel fought for her survival/

However, had there been a willing partner on the Arab side who would come to terms with Israel's existence the seemingly "apartheid-like" situation would not have occurred. Israel never wished to conquer another people. This is contrary to the apartheid South African situation whereby the whites ruled and oppressed the blacks by force. They denied them their basic human rights. The intifida of 2000 resulted in a heavy spate of suicide violence against innocent Israelis, which resulted in heavy Israeli Army retaliation against armed Palestinian terrorists. The Palestinian terrorist groups had declared war on Israel and in a war; innocent people on both sides die and suffer.

The difference is that in South Africa both Whites and Blacks realized that their fate is dependent on one another. Both realised the importance of sitting down and negotiating a transitional period to end apartheid. Both sides were determined to rebuild the new democratic, multiracial South Africa . This feeling of mutual desire to end the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is lacking. The Palestinians have embarked on the road of terror and suicide bombings.

This is their chosen path. It differs from the path that the freedom fighters in South Africa chose. Here there is no desire to come to terms with Israel 's existence that was always a "thorn" in Palestinian flesh. Hamas and Islamic Jihad have made this perfectly clear to the world. Their manifesto is no example in building an alternative democratic Palestinian society in a state replacing Israel.

Is there not a similarity to Nazism in the Hamas manifesto? Many Palestinian observers in the UN Security council accuse Israel of genocide. Is the Hamas Manifesto not promoting genocide of the Jewish People? Compare this to the ideals of those who opposed and fought the cruel racist regime of White South Africa during those evil, apartheid years. Their fight was a fight to attain equality for all South Africans irrespective of their skin colour. This is not the case in the Israel-Palestinian dispute. Here there is no desire in Palestinian street, as represented by Hamas and company, to come to terms with Israel's existence – let alone negotiate a peace treaty, which would eventually lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel . Genocide is more part of the lexicon of the Palestinian terrorist groups than in Israel . Perhaps from this point of view, there is a similarity between the Palestinians and the dominating whites of apartheid South Africa . Both peoples oppressed their citizens and denied them basic human rights. Both regimes were corrupt and were involved in feathering their own nests.

The similarity of apartheid South Africa to the Palestinian Authority, including their methods of torture of opponents, makes this comparison closer to the truth.
Where are human rights in the Arab countries? Where are woman's rights in Islamic Society? In Saudi Arabia , women are treated like chattels and do not even have the franchise. Why are the human rights organizations not taking any view on that?

Another very big difference between apartheid South Africa and Israel is the fact that there are no separate facilities for Jews and Arabs. Arab Israelis have equal rights and have the right to vote. There is no law preventing social mixing between the two peoples nor are there separate universities for Arabs and Israelis in Israel.

The comparison between Israel and apartheid South Africa shows total ignorance of the situation in both countries. After having been born and educated in apartheid South Africa and having opposed apartheid and racism all my life, I have come to realize how false and stupid this comparison really is. Much still remains to be done in the human rights area for Arab Israelis. There is some social descrimination in the job market and the situation is not as good as it could be. However, it is very far from the apartheid system of White South Africa where draconian laws were well set in place to separate blacks from whites


David Icke Myth: And by that I don't only mean the evil that is inflicted upon the Palestinian people minute-by-minute, day-by-day, but also the extraordinarily racist divisions within Jewish society with the black Jews from Ethiopia, for example, treated as little more than vermin
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html

The Facts
In early 1991, Eritrean and Tigrean rebels began a concerted attack on Mengistu forces, meeting with surprising success for the first time since the civil war began in 1975. With the rebel armies advancing each day, Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam fled his country in early May. Rebels claimed control of the capital Addis Ababa shortly thereafter, and the situation of the Beta Israel took top priority in Israel. The Likud government of Yitzhak Shamir authorized a special permit for the Israeli airline, El Al, to fly on the Jewish Sabbath. On Friday, May 24, and continuing non-stop for 36 hours, a total of 34 El Al jumbo jets and Hercules C-130s—seats removed to accommodate the maximum number of Ethiopians—began a new chapter in the struggle for the freedom of Ethiopian Jewry.

Operation Solomon, named for the king from whom one of the theories suggest that the Beta Israel draw their lineage, ended almost as quickly as it began. Timing was crucial, since any delay by Israel could have allowed the rebels to hold the Jews as bargaining chips with Israel or the United States. A total of 14,324 Ethiopian Jews were rescued and resettled in Israel, a modern exodus of the grandest design. Operation Solomon rescued nearly double the number of Jews as were saved during Operation Moses and Joshua, and it did so in a mere fraction of the time.

More than 36,000 Ethiopian Jews now live in Israel and despite both economic and social hardships, their community has an integral part in Israeli society. In 1999, Avraham Yitzhak became the first Ethiopian immigrant to earn an MD degree from an Israeli medical school. In 2011, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs appointed Rachamim Elazar as Israel's Ambassador to Ethiopia, making him the first Israeli of Ethiopian descent to ever serve as an ambassador for the State of Israel. There are still many problems within the Ethiopian community in Israel - poverty, lack of education, etc - but large strides are being made every day.......................As early as the 16th century, Egypt's Chief Rabbi David ben Solomon ibn Avi Zimra (Radbaz) declared that in Halachic (Jewish legal) issues, the Beta Israel were indeed Jews. In 1855, Daniel ben Hamdya, a member of the Beta Israel, was the first Ethiopian Jew to visit Israel, meeting with a council of rabbis in Jerusalem concerning the authenticity of the Beta Israel. By 1864, almost all leading Jewish authorities, most notably Rabbi Azriel Hildsheimer of Eisenstadt, Germany, accepted the Beta Israel as true Jews. In 1908 the chief rabbis of forty-five countries had heeded Rabbi Hildsheimer's call and officially recognized the Beta Israel as fellow Jews.

In reaffirming the Radbaz's position centuries before, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, Israel's Chief Sephardic Rabbi, stated in 1972, “I have come to the conclusion that Falashas are Jews who must be saved from absorption and assimilation. We are obliged to speed up their immigration to Israel and educate them in the spirit of the holy Torah, making them partners in the building of the Holy Land.”

In 1975, Ashkenazic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren wrote to the Beta Israel telling them, “You are our brothers, you are our blood and our flesh. You are true Jews.” Later that same year the Israeli Interministerial Commission officially recognized the Beta Israel as Jews under Israel's Law of Return, a law designed to aid in Jewish immigration to Israel. The Beta Israel were ready to come home.

Indeed, the Beta Israel were strictly observant in pre-Talmudic Jewish traditions. The women went to the mikvah, or ritual bath, just as observant Jewish women do to this day, and they continue to carry out ancient festivals, such as Seged, that have been passed down through the generations of Beta Israel. The Kesim, or religious leaders, are as widely revered and respected as the great rabbis in each community, passing the Jewish customs through storytelling and maintaining the few Jewish books and Torahs some communities were fortunate enough to have written in the liturgical language of Ge'ez.


Jewish Apathy . . .and its Defeat
The struggle to free the Beta Israel was not fought solely against the Ethiopian government. Much like some timid Jewish leaders during the Holocaust, some recent Jews sought to prevent a shanda fur de goyim (an embarrassment in front of the non-Jews) by not stirring up waves over Ethiopian Jewry.

The history of the Beta Israel's rescue is at times open to debate regarding the heroes of the Ethiopian Jewry movement. As with many struggles to free oppressed Jewry around the world, many advocated and vocalized opposition to those responsible for the lack of action on their behalf. Others, however, argued for a more quiet diplomacy, void of the public demonstrations and arrests that marked the struggle for Soviet Jewry.

Though over 8,000 Beta Israel managed to flee to Israel during his tenure, it was an Israeli official in charge of the Ethiopian Jews' absorption who may best symbolize the insensitivity that an extreme minority of people once held. Yehuda Dominitz who served as Director General of the Jewish Agency's Department of Immigration and Absorption, declared in 1980 that, “[taking] a Falasha (sic) out of his village, it's like taking a fish out of water...I'm not in favor of bringing them [to Israel].” Dominitz also refused to allow his agency to rent buses so Ethiopian Jews in Israel could travel to Jerusalem to observe their ancient holiday of Seged (Dominitz eventually relented, but had the buses take the Beta Israel to Haifa instead of Jerusalem).

Malkah Raymist, a writer for the World Zionist Organization, wrote in 1956 in The Jewish Horizon (of the Hapoel Hamizrachi of America Movement) that, “the reasons [for not bringing Ethiopian Jews to Israel] are simple and weighty. On one hand, they are well off where they are, while their development and mental outlook is that of children; they could fall an easy prey of exploitation, if brought here without any preparation. On the other hand, being a backward element, they would be and it would take several years before they could be educated towards a minimum of progressive thinking.”

In an American Association for Ethiopian Jews (AAEJ) press release, the AAEJ quoted its founder, Dr. Graenum Berger, as criticizing those who sought any delay in the rescue of the Beta Israel. Berger declared, “Not when Jews are dying...these revelations show once again that the policy of influencing factions of the government of Israel always have been against the immigration of the Ethiopian Jews. And, the same people who controlled their immigration then are controlling it now. These are the same people who gave instructions to the Israeli Embassy in Ethiopia (1956-1973) not to issue immigration visas to any Jew from Ethiopia.”

Berger himself came under criticism for his outspoken remarks concerning the Israeli efforts to rescue the Beta Israel, showing that nobody was immune from the rhetoric surrounding the issue.



As the facts clearly show: David Icke is an ignorant, lying, fearmongering, hatemongering antisemitic moron............a lying sack of shit.............


MYTH
“Israel is pursuing a policy of genocide toward the Palestinians that is comparable to the Nazis’ treatment of the Jews.” top


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html#9

FACT
This is perhaps the most odious claim made by Israel’s detractors. The Nazis’ objective was the systematic extermination of every Jew in Europe. Israel is seeking peace with its Palestinian neighbors. More than one million Arabs live as free and equal citizens in Israel. Of the Palestinians in the territories, 98 percent live under the civil administration of the Palestinian Authority. Israeli policies are designed to protect Israeli citizens—Jews and non-Jews—from the incessant campaign of terror. There has never been a plan to persecute, exterminate, or expel the Palestinian people.

In response to one such comparison, by a poet who referred to the “Zionist SS,” The New Republic’s literary editor Leon Wieseltier observed:

The view that Zionism is Nazism—there is no other way to understand the phrase “Zionist SS”—is not different in kind from the view that the moon is cheese. It is not only spectacularly wrong, it is also spectacularly unintelligent. I will not offend myself (that would be self-hate speech!) by patiently explaining why the State of Israel is unlike the Third Reich, except to say that nothing that has befallen the Palestinians under Israel’s control may responsibly be compared to what befell the Jews under Germany’s control, and that a considerable number of the people who have toiled diligently to find peace and justice for the Palestinians, and a solution to this savage conflict, have been Israeli, some of them even Israeli prime ministers. There is no support for the Palestinian cause this side of decency that can justify the locution “Zionist SS.” 41

The absurdity of the charge is also clear from the demography of the disputed territories. While detractors make outrageous claims about Israel committing genocide or ethnic cleansing, the Palestinian population has continued to grow exponentially. In Gaza, for example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to 1,657,155 in 2011, an increase of 127 percent. The growth rate was 3.2 percent, one of the highest in the world. The total Palestinian population in all the disputed territories (they include Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem) was 1,006,000 in 1950, 1,094,000 in 1970, and grew to 3,736,210 in 2011. 42


MYTH
“Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to the treatment of blacks in apartheid South Africa.” top

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html#8

FACT
Even before the State of Israel was established, Jewish leaders consciously sought to avoid the situation that prevailed in South Africa. As David Ben-Gurion told Palestinian nationalist Musa Alami in 1934:

We do not want to create a situation like that which exists in South Africa, where the whites are the owners and rulers, and the blacks are the workers. If we do not do all kinds of work, easy and hard, skilled and unskilled, if we become merely landlords, then this will not be our homeland. 36

Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens who enjoy equal rights and are represented in all the branches of government. Arabs are represented in the Knesset, and have served in the Cabinet, high-level foreign ministry posts (e.g., Ambassador to Finland) and on the Supreme Court.

Under apartheid, skin color determined every aspect of your life from birth until death. Black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they formed the overwhelming majority of the population. Laws dictated where they could live, work, go to school and travel. And, in South Africa, the government killed blacks who protested against its policies. By contrast, Israel allows freedom of movement, assembly and speech. Some of the government’s harshest critics are Israeli Arabs who are members of the Knesset.


“The difference between the current Israeli situation and apartheid South Africa is emphasized at a very human level: Jewish and Arab babies are born in the same delivery room, with the same facilities, attended by the same doctors and nurses, with the mothers recovering in adjoining beds in a ward. Two years ago I had major surgery in a Jerusalem hospital: the surgeon was Jewish, the anaesthetist was Arab, the doctors and nurses who looked after me were Jews and Arabs. Jews and Arabs share meals in restaurants and travel on the same trains, buses and taxis, and visit each other’s homes.

Could any of this possibly have happened under apartheid? Of course not.”

— Benjamin Pogrund 37


The situation of Palestinians in the territories is different. The security requirements of the nation, and a violent insurrection in the territories, forced Israel to impose restrictions on Arab residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip that are not necessary inside Israel’s pre-1967 borders. Israeli policy is not based on race, but is a result of Palestinian animosity. Palestinians in the territories dispute Israel’s right to exist, whereas blacks did not seek the destruction of South Africa, only the apartheid regime.

If Israel were to give Palestinians full citizenship, it would mean the territories had been annexed. No Israeli government has been prepared to take that step. Instead, through negotiations, Israel agreed to give the Palestinians increasing authority over their own affairs. It is likely that a final settlement will allow most Palestinians to become citizens of their own state. The principal impediment to Palestinian independence is not Israeli policy, it is the unwillingness of the Palestinian leadership to give up terrorism and agree to live in peace beside Israel.

Despite all their criticism, when asked what governments they admire most, more than 80 percent of Palestinians consistently said Israel because they can see up close the thriving democracy in Israel, and the rights the Arab citizens enjoy there. By contrast, Palestinians place Arab regimes, including their own Palestinian Authority, at the bottom. 38


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html

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Post  true lilly on Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:16 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
McKallisti Of The Sods wrote:First Look At David Icke Remember Who You Are Book Cover...



Well The Cover Looks Like A Mish Mash Of All The Other Books...

I Bet The Content Is Too...



You're the solitary fan of True Lillys threads here,you'll love it in that case...



Not banning me, hardly makes sod a fan, more someone fishing for
something I'm supposed to know.

But while on the topic of David Icke/"TINTIN" trying to CONvince the world that
we aren't real, but only a part of some Alien Reptiles' Computer Matrix...

true lilly wrote:
Hackers steal trove of credit-card details



ANONYMOUS targets security giant and publishes list of clients,
including US Defence Department, Apple and Microsoft.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3321
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060484275&postcount=33203
I Googled "Dust"...and
considering "tintin's" CODE SPEAK and OBSESSION with
'Football'/SOCCER...oh, and "tintin's" many admissions that
"Sports" are a cover for "Secret, Out In The Open,
Coded Conversations"...oh, and "tintin's" RABID HATRED
of "the jews",and that "tintin" also tells us,
Australia/OZ is O'Zion, That Glorious Land Promised to
the regathered of all the Tribes of Israel AND those who
faithfully join them in Serving The Creator God...well,
I'd say this is worth a Very Close and Careful read:


'You cop a missile, you become
dust. You go to Perth, you lose 3-0
and you get some bad articles
… whatever Bill Shankly says, it's
peanuts.
'


December 31, 2011


"You cop a missile, you become dust. You go to Perth,
you lose 3-0 and you get some bad articles ... whatever Bill Shankly
says, it’s peanuts" ... Gold Coast United's coach, Miron Bleiberg. Photo: Getty Images


After the dangers of life in the Israeli navy, the football field holds no fear for Miron Bleiberg. Michael Cockerill reports.

THERE is a serious side to Miron Bleiberg. You
can see it in his face when he reminisces about his time in the Israeli
military. His eyes mist with a steely gaze, his features harden. Bill
Shankly's eternal quote, ''Some people believe football is a matter of
life and death … I can assure you it is much, much more important than
that'' comes up in conversation. ''I disagree with that,'' Bleiberg
says. He knows.


Not that long ago, Craig Moore described Bleiberg as a
''clown''. True enough, the Gold Coast United coach is larger than life.
Always has been. Unforgettable quotes fall off his tongue like
confetti. Bleiberg is almost constantly humorous, even when he doesn't
know it. He puts that down to the fact English is his second language.
But try to make him the butt of humour, and watch his smile disappear.
Bleiberg expects to be taken seriously, and deserves to be. ''Lizard''
formations, and all.


In his office at Gold Coast United headquarters, there
is a collection of framed photographs propped up against a wall. They're
not hung, because that would suggest permanency, and despite his close
relationship with Clive Palmer, Bleiberg knows coaches live on borrowed
time. It's the business he's in. He's been coaching for the past 29
years, ever since he got his first job, with Hapoel Kiryat Haim, at the
age of 28. Gold Coast United is his 11th job, the past 10 have been
since he arrived in Australia as a backpacker. That's why the
photographs can be packed up at a moment's notice. But he's proud of
them all the same.



Perspective ... Miron Bleiberg. Photo: Getty Images


Poignantly, there's a common theme. A shot of the
Melbourne Knights squad that won the NSL Cup in 1986. Success. A shot of
him signing autographs at the launch of the Brisbane Roar's debut
season in the A-League. ''You can't see it there, but the queue goes
back as far as that tree over there,'' he says. Ego. A photograph of him
standing between Charlie Miller and Jason Culina at a Gold Coast
training session, issuing instructions. ''They're two internationals,
and can you believe when I did the coaching course they failed me on the
midfield play?'' he fumes. Indignation. The theme is clear. Treat me
with respect. Bleiberg's A Licence from Football Federation Australia is
also framed, but he doesn't point it out. You don't have to ask to know
why.


Football may be the world game, but it's not worldly. The
cloistered, one-dimensional atmosphere that pervades a dressing room
has never been Bleiberg's style. He accepts it, and understands it. But
he doesn't believe in it. To him the school of life is the experience
that matters. He arrived in coaching from a unconventional direction.
And it's those lessons that are his bedrock. An A Licence is a
certificate, but that's about all.


So what are those lessons? Unlike the archetypal football
professional, Bleiberg doesn't come from working-class stock. His
father owned an engineering firm, his mother was an architect.


He was educated at the Hebrew Reali School in Haifa, one
of Israel's oldest private schools. A school that spits out business
leaders, heart specialists, military generals, one president (Ezer
Weizman), and, occasionally, future Israeli internationals such as
Yochanan Vollach.


Bleiberg wanted to be a professional footballer, and
perhaps could have been. ''I was a speedy left winger with a good touch
and a good cross,'' he says, with typical immodesty. When he was ''three
or four'', his father began taking him to watch Maccabi Haifa, the team
of the port city's elite. ''My mum was sculpturing, she was an artist
or whatever, and she wanted the peace and quiet on a Saturday afternoon,
so the deal was my dad would take me to the football,'' Bleiberg
laughs. Pretty soon he was more a player than a fan, graduating through
the youth teams until at the age of 16, he was training with the Maccabi
first team squad. But when he was 18, the time came to leave school and
start his compulsory military training. Bleiberg wasn't one of the two
young players given special dispensation to combine a military career
with a football one. ''I knew right then that my chances of being a
professional were over,'' he says. ''The two players who got picked
ahead of me went on to play for Israel, so they were better than me.''


Bleiberg did continue playing while he was in the navy,
and was twice selected in the Armed Services All-Stars team. On his days
off, he would hang out with his friends, playing five-a-side on Haifa
beach in games that included a young Ronnie Rosenthal. ''I knew when I
got together with the football guys, I wasn't that far behind him,'' he
says. But, as always, the demands of his military service came first.


Bleiberg spent five years in the Israeli navy, rising to
the rank of captain. He commanded patrol boats and missile boats,
covering the coastline from Haifa to the Sinai, and also the Red Sea. He
hasn't signed any confidentiality agreement, but there's an unwritten
rule that when you leave the service, you don't go into details. But it
was, literally, life and death. And as he talks about it, that's when
you see Bleiberg's serious side.


''You cop a missile, you become dust,'' he recalls.
''It's not that you go to Adelaide, you go to Perth, you lose 3-0 and
you get some bad articles. Every activity you do is a life-threatening
situation. That's why for me, whatever Bill Shankly says, it's
peanuts.''


So how close did Bleiberg come to the edge? ''You're
searching for fishing boats, and every boat can be one of the three,''
he says. ''One, they can be real fishing boat. Two, they can be a drug
smuggler. Or three, they can be a weapons smuggler. When you tell them
to stop, you're going to do a search, you don't know if there is someone
hiding in the engine room. As an officer, you go first. Maybe there is
some terrorist hiding behind the generator, and he gets panic. Usually
he go with the hands up, but maybe you're in a dark room, he panic, he
shoot at you, he blow you up. You don't know. You're waiting for the
hands to come up, and you're sweating. I was lucky, I never got hurt.
But I got friends that died.''


Perhaps the closest Bleiberg came to death was during his
first two years of training. Torture, he calls it. ''You learn to take
your body to the extreme, and learn how much you can take,'' he says.
''Maybe that's why sometimes I'm tough with my players.''


So how tough was it? ''It's winter, maybe 5 degrees, you
go to sleep at 2 o'clock, after night activity, and you wake up after
two hours sleep, so you can go to a swim with your full uniform in the
sea, with the temperature which is probably zero, then you stay with
your wet clothes all day. Just to give you an example. Or you go to a
40-kilometre march when you have to carry someone all the time on a
stretcher with a wooden handle. By the end of it your shoulder is not
blue, it's green from the pain. Every 10km you get five minutes rest. In
this five minutes, you put your head on the bitumen and you fall asleep
because you're dead. For me, even now, I can fall asleep on the beach
on the spot without a pillow.'' That's tough.


AUSTRALIA, then, has been a breeze. Bleiberg left the
military and went to university to study commerce before departing on a
world tour with his partner, who's now his wife. There was a sense of
adventure, but also a sense of pacifism. Coaching came early, almost by
accident, after he bumped into a childhood friend, Itzhak Segal, who
encouraged him to sign up for a course in Tel Aviv. Bleiberg topped the
course, and by the next year was an instructor. ''I decided, basically, I
was a very good coach,'' he says. ''One of the ingredients you need is
natural leadership ingredients, natural charisma. If I didn't have all
this … it wouldn't matter if I went to the military, or I went to
university.''


It's Australia where all those life lessons have
coalesced into Bleiberg's coaching career. It might have been Europe,
and Bleiberg says: ''Even as we speak now, I can get a job in Israel. In
Australia, we struggle compared to rugby league and Aussie rules, but I
am happy to suffer for this one because you can sit in the dugout,
there is no violence towards you as a coach, you don't have to leave
with a police escort because your team is losing. That's why I've never
been tempted to go back. I'm happy to work in a non-violent environment,
because I'm a non-violent person. I saw enough killing; I came to
Australia to get away from all this. Can you imagine in Israel, you're
sitting there and the supporter is five metres away, and you're too
scared to look backwards?''


Bleiberg regularly returns to Israel to catch up with
school friends, navy friends. He doesn't advertise the fact he's a
football coach, because many of them are high achievers in more serious
pursuits. He loves going back to Haifa, but as of next year he will have
spent as much time in Australia as Israel, so it's Australia that is
now his real home. World Cup final, Australia versus Israel?
''Australia,'' he replies. ''I feel attached. I don't even know the
line-up of Israel any more.''


Bleiberg has been good for football here, and Australia
has been good to him. When he leaves the 26th floor of his Main Beach
apartment every morning, he could take the short cut to training down
the highway, or take the slow way along the esplanade to Broadbeach. He
always takes the coast road. ''It reminds me why I love this country so
much,'' he says.


Bleiberg doesn't need football for a living - his floor
covering business and property development have made him wealthy. He
coaches because he loves it, and it's what he does best. Bleiberg is
quick to acknowledge ''life is good''. Asked if he's the most relaxed
coach in world football, he responds: ''I'm probably in the top 5 per
cent.'' But don't think he's getting soft in his old age. On Boxing Day,
the win over one of his old clubs, Brisbane Roar, got Gold Coast off
the bottom. Tonight they face league leaders the Mariners in Gosford.


''I'm ambitious, I want to win. It hurt me that I'm
bottom of the ladder,'' he says. ''I like other coaches, but this week
I'm hating Graham Arnold. Next week, I'll give him all the respect he
deserves.''


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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:21 am

Billy Ruben wrote:Hey You...True Looney you despicable dogshag dogshag dogshag dogshag
you spammed my threads True lilly... noway noway
rimshot wacky catfight
Now...I spam yours,hehehehehehehe,and you're going to love it
tholms cowbonk dogshag offtopic
Billy Ruben wrote:

True Lilly above confesses she has child porn on her PC.
The full story that you don't know,is her husband,Bill/William Ryan,a serving detective in Victorian Police Force,was lied about by her,cause he got a vasectomy (smart husband),a divorce and took the kids for a few years.She was on her own...WHY?
She set him up as drug dealer,animal and baby rapist,all of which came to no avail.But the heinous low life creature she is,installed child-porn and tried to set him up for it.But,Police being trained in psyche,that they are,realized she's just a schizophrenic patient and let her be,giving the stupid old tart license to continue to be a menace to society and herself.
I have rectified the problem and contacted Ballarat Health services and dropped this note by emai...The Federal Police is next.
"There are a number of forums,that Suzy Ryan of Ballarat/Wendouree? where she states she has child porn on her PC,that Ballarat Police,Ballarat Mental Health,Frankston Hospital ,not to mention the dozens of individuals she accuses as blood sacificing satanic occultist,baby raping,beastiality types.She has caused alot of pain to people,over the years on many online forums.Even naming her ex-husband,Bill Ryan,allegedely,a serving detective in Victorian Police,as a peadophile and drug dealer.
She goes by the monicker of True Lilly/Vera Susa,her phone number is 0424705576,email: true-lilly@hotmail.com
If you decide to follow this through,with your own administrative body,or Ballarat Police,or a combined interview,I'm happy to make myself available at above written details or serve as a witness in court.I will,if you answer and show interest,collect all the data I can,besides her fabricated stories of being car bombed and beaten into hospital twice,she has caused much pain,to herself,people around her and the online community,she should be evaluated,but that is for your consideration and experience in this field to decide,thankyou for your time and consideration,my kind regards,Jason Cook.
http://www.bhs.org.au/?q=contact
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Hi shitbag scumbucket.Cause you were spiteful spamming unrelate crap this morning and my little modem packed in,I just had a friend/connection replace modem,line filter,all chords and Now I'm going to be a bastard and spam the fuck out of this place.Sod was warned and he can't do shit about it,so suck my dick you dog raping,child porn freak...and you admitted you have child porn and JD John Drake/Droike plays moral card one day and defends a known and self confessed pervert the next day.Enjoy the Federal Police babe,cause they're next babe...FUCK YOU BITCH !!!!!!

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu


Thought you were better than that JD,you might be a low life lying bastarde,but never believe4d you would support a self confessed child pervert and child porn freak like True Lilly,read between the lines sir,she installed the porn to try and set her husband up,there's alot you don't know,but the police are trying to prove...Have a nice day sir.I'm enjoying it...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1662p15-should-tiswas-be-appointed-moderator-of-sodlike-productions
http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1665p15-true-lilly-confesses-to-having-child-porn-on-her-pc
And Tiswas would of course volunteer her time to clean up the filth posted by known child porn spammers like True Lilly
or the garbage posterd by JD or one of his many aliases,Ratty,dropping scat and animal porn to defile and putrify Tiswas's very own forum.

She has experience in this field and believe she would be an assett to the administration here at Sodlike Productions


thumbs up

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:




True Lilly above confesses she has child porn on her PC.
The full story that you don't know,is her husband,Bill/William Ryan,a serving detective in Victorian Police Force,was lied about by her,cause he got a vasectomy (smart husband),a divorce and took the kids for a few years.She was on her own...WHY?

She set him up as drug dealer,animal and baby rapist,...


McKallisti Of The Sods wrote:I Doubt It Very Much...

True Liily May Not Be Everyones Cup Of Tea...

And Her Spam Can Be A Tad Annoying...

But There Is An Ignore Button Somewhere In The User Control Panel...!!!!


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

true lilly wrote:

So how much MORE WOEFUL
FOR 'THOSE' WHO despoiled,
and dealt treacherously with,
those who didn't only, NOT despoil
or deal treacherously,
but actually WORKED to BLESS,
as "tintin" knew and publicly admitted, I did,
after his 3 week stay in my home.
..after which,
THE CHILD PORN SPAMMERS MOVED IN.


Billy Ruben wrote:

And when the results differ,I'll post them.




Hmmmmmmm....interesting.

think jawdrop Suspect


Mmmmmmm...it just gets more interesting the more one digs,sifting and sorting you call it Suzy Ryan...I think I got you.Three times you admit child porn,but three times you blame a different party.You're not very consistent,are you Suzy,not what you would consider a credible witness.
This is going to be a walk in the park,see you in court,I could even get victims compensation for distrubing me all these years.
lol!

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:


What is curious, is how, and why, 'you' insist on constantly re-telling
'your' fantasy versions of my posts, when 'you' know that my posts
are there for anyone, even half-wits like 'you', to see how patently
absurd 'your' bald faced lies are.

But 'something' tells me it's coming from The WOmen who own 'your' balls.

The WOmen some of us know, can not be trusted to do right by their men
or children.
The WOmen who hunt working men to get knocked up by, then dump and
milk for maintenance.

The WOmen who get to the 'little heads' of men in order to drive them to
doing their evil bidding.

The WOmen who join the medical industry for the power to blackmail and
harm, rather than help and heal.
The WOmen who breed children as 'Tradable Commodities'.

The WOmen who hate women like me for refusing to join them in their
insanely bitter push for 'vengeance' against GOD, for creating MAN-KIND.

The WOmen too stupid to thank God for the men and women who take on
the great and burdensome task of correcting us when we err, with Justice.

Does this go for your two sons South Korean mail order brides.?

Not what you call patriotic Australian bloodline.National Action will hear about this,mark my words.

You'll turn downtown Ballarat into "Little Seoul" with the repatriation clauses.

You devil.



satan

Always wondered why a hard right winger like you was soft on immigration.When it suits you,you're a bit left in pursuasion
...Well,you're a traitor and YOU BETRAYED AUSTRALIA.Last two font colours were red and blue,Masonic,hidden code for KluKluxKlan...

But let the Korean brides know,it's just two years of marriage they have to endure,then they can divorce and claim Centrelink payments.


catfight

But one of your son's a philosphy student at Uni.Bright future his Korean bride has got.Student loan repayments and a degree you can't get a job with.Well,he could find a spiritual expression for pumping fuel.Yes,bright future,student loan repayments,living on the dole,stuck in your two bedroom government subsidised duplex.Bit cramped it'll be.But she'll be used to that,since they fit twelve people in a bedroom back at home in Korea...when the family repatriates,you should be able to fit 24 of them,as long as you didn't buy that Llama...

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As we can see by the above evidence True Lilly,it's not like you really love your country.
You are an ursurper and a spy,a traitor and a scamp.Breeding a new "Welfare" generation.
Yes Suzy Ryan,You betrayed Australia...
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:But I do admit,I really did put you in to the mental health authorities.It's Sods fault too,he wouldn't moderate,so I sought outside help,to try and have you sectioned for six months,which would be enough time to clear up the general sub-forum and with your computer confiscated while they look for child porn,there'd be no sneak in one line link threads that everyone ignores.

It was for the good of the forum,so no hard feelings,Huh?

Now that I think about it,you were just collateral damage in my war with Sod...So sorry about that madam.Did you think I did this for the children and all things decent?No,this is a power struggle,no issues take precedence over a clash of egos.


Yes,it's diabolical I know,the lengths I'll go to stop spam.
But you do seriously need your head read.You should be there a long time,knowing how stubborn you are.Your god doesn't want martyrs Suzy,
you're in the wrong religeon and you don't have C-4 and a burka.


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Post  true lilly on Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:18 am

"you" have "your" SPAM WAR, I'll just re-post what it is "you're" so desperate to bury.
Better than twiddling my thumbs while I'm too bothered and hot to do anything else.


Why NO Reviews of David Icke
PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?


The finances of DAVID ICKE are

To quote "tintin", "it's all connected".

Right, that's that sorted. Laughing

"Billy Ruben/Ciggy/et al" attacked me
for asking them to STOP PROMOTING CHILD SEX.

"cori" attacked me
for asking that "cori" STOP THREATENING PEOPLE
that DEMONS WILL GET THEIR CHILDREN,
then had me banned from DIF.

ATS banned me
for "connecting the dots" AND
SHOWING VICTIMS of PAEDOPHILES
that they COULD SURVIVE and THRIVE,
AND that 'those' caught in "Their" NETworks
CAN REPENT AND GET OUT, WITH GOD'S HELP.


And so it goes with
ALL WORLD WIDE WEB of DECEPTION
NETworking Forums, that I've dared to FREELY SHARE,
THE VERY BEST, REAL LIFE SAVING, NEWS.


But "they" NEED the world to buy the FALSE, TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" 'time line', BECAUSE IT CONvinceS people
that THE CREATOR of LIFE, AND PERFECT JUDGE,
"doesn't exist", and that "They" "won't have to pay" for
"Their" WILLINGLY EVIL ACTS.

But HE DOES EXIST and CAN'T LIE.
HE IS SIFTING and SORTING HIS CALLED OUT,
HIDDEN, LIVING MINORITY,

from the RUNNING AFTER and WORSHIPING
of FALSE 'gods' and FALSE 'prophets',
DEAD MAJORITY.

TAKE HEED. REPENT and LIVE.

Billy Ruben wrote:
McKallisti Of The Sods wrote:First Look At David Icke Remember Who You Are Book Cover...

Well The Cover Looks Like A Mish Mash Of All The Other Books...

I Bet The Content Is Too...

You're the solitary fan of True Lillys threads here,you'll love it in that case...


Not banning me, hardly makes sod a fan, more someone fishing for
something I'm supposed to know.

But while on the topic of David Icke/"TINTIN" trying to CONvince the world that
we aren't real, but only a part of some Alien Reptiles' Computer Matrix...


true lilly wrote:
Hackers steal trove of credit-card details



ANONYMOUS targets security giant and publishes list of clients,
including US Defence Department, Apple and Microsoft.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3321
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060484275&postcount=33203

I Googled "Dust"...and
considering "tintin's" CODE SPEAK and OBSESSION with
'Football'/SOCCER...oh, and "tintin's" many admissions that
"Sports" are a cover for "Secret, Out In The Open,
Coded Conversations"...oh, and "tintin's" RABID HATRED
of "the jews",and that "tintin" also tells us,
Australia/OZ is O'Zion, That Glorious Land Promised to
the regathered of all the Tribes of Israel AND those who
faithfully join them in Serving The Creator God...well,
I'd say this is worth a Very Close and Careful read:


'You cop a missile, you become
dust. You go to Perth, you lose 3-0
and you get some bad articles
… whatever Bill Shankly says, it's
peanuts.
'


December 31, 2011

"You cop a missile, you become dust. You go to Perth,
you lose 3-0 and you get some bad articles ... whatever Bill Shankly
says, it’s peanuts" ... Gold Coast United's coach, Miron Bleiberg. Photo: Getty Images


After the dangers of life in the Israeli navy, the football field holds no fear for Miron Bleiberg. Michael Cockerill reports.

THERE is a serious side to Miron Bleiberg. You
can see it in his face when he reminisces about his time in the Israeli
military. His eyes mist with a steely gaze, his features harden. Bill
Shankly's eternal quote, ''Some people believe football is a matter of
life and death … I can assure you it is much, much more important than
that'' comes up in conversation. ''I disagree with that,'' Bleiberg
says. He knows.


Not that long ago, Craig Moore described Bleiberg as a
''clown''. True enough, the Gold Coast United coach is larger than life.
Always has been. Unforgettable quotes fall off his tongue like
confetti. Bleiberg is almost constantly humorous, even when he doesn't
know it. He puts that down to the fact English is his second language.
But try to make him the butt of humour, and watch his smile disappear.
Bleiberg expects to be taken seriously, and deserves to be. ''Lizard''
formations, and all.


In his office at Gold Coast United headquarters, there
is a collection of framed photographs propped up against a wall. They're
not hung, because that would suggest permanency, and despite his close
relationship with Clive Palmer, Bleiberg knows coaches live on borrowed
time. It's the business he's in. He's been coaching for the past 29
years, ever since he got his first job, with Hapoel Kiryat Haim, at the
age of 28. Gold Coast United is his 11th job, the past 10 have been
since he arrived in Australia as a backpacker. That's why the
photographs can be packed up at a moment's notice. But he's proud of
them all the same.



Perspective ... Miron Bleiberg. Photo: Getty Images


Poignantly, there's a common theme. A shot of the
Melbourne Knights squad that won the NSL Cup in 1986. Success. A shot of
him signing autographs at the launch of the Brisbane Roar's debut
season in the A-League. ''You can't see it there, but the queue goes
back as far as that tree over there,'' he says. Ego. A photograph of him
standing between Charlie Miller and Jason Culina at a Gold Coast
training session, issuing instructions. ''They're two internationals,
and can you believe when I did the coaching course they failed me on the
midfield play?'' he fumes. Indignation. The theme is clear. Treat me
with respect. Bleiberg's A Licence from Football Federation Australia is
also framed, but he doesn't point it out. You don't have to ask to know
why.


Football may be the world game, but it's not worldly. The
cloistered, one-dimensional atmosphere that pervades a dressing room
has never been Bleiberg's style. He accepts it, and understands it. But
he doesn't believe in it. To him the school of life is the experience
that matters. He arrived in coaching from a unconventional direction.
And it's those lessons that are his bedrock. An A Licence is a
certificate, but that's about all.


So what are those lessons? Unlike the archetypal football
professional, Bleiberg doesn't come from working-class stock. His
father owned an engineering firm, his mother was an architect.


He was educated at the Hebrew Reali School in Haifa, one
of Israel's oldest private schools. A school that spits out business
leaders, heart specialists, military generals, one president (Ezer
Weizman), and, occasionally, future Israeli internationals such as
Yochanan Vollach.


Bleiberg wanted to be a professional footballer, and
perhaps could have been. ''I was a speedy left winger with a good touch
and a good cross,'' he says, with typical immodesty. When he was ''three
or four'', his father began taking him to watch Maccabi Haifa, the team
of the port city's elite. ''My mum was sculpturing, she was an artist
or whatever, and she wanted the peace and quiet on a Saturday afternoon,
so the deal was my dad would take me to the football,'' Bleiberg
laughs. Pretty soon he was more a player than a fan, graduating through
the youth teams until at the age of 16, he was training with the Maccabi
first team squad. But when he was 18, the time came to leave school and
start his compulsory military training. Bleiberg wasn't one of the two
young players given special dispensation to combine a military career
with a football one. ''I knew right then that my chances of being a
professional were over,'' he says. ''The two players who got picked
ahead of me went on to play for Israel, so they were better than me.''


Bleiberg did continue playing while he was in the navy,
and was twice selected in the Armed Services All-Stars team. On his days
off, he would hang out with his friends, playing five-a-side on Haifa
beach in games that included a young Ronnie Rosenthal. ''I knew when I
got together with the football guys, I wasn't that far behind him,'' he
says. But, as always, the demands of his military service came first.


Bleiberg spent five years in the Israeli navy, rising to
the rank of captain. He commanded patrol boats and missile boats,
covering the coastline from Haifa to the Sinai, and also the Red Sea. He
hasn't signed any confidentiality agreement, but there's an unwritten
rule that when you leave the service, you don't go into details. But it
was, literally, life and death. And as he talks about it, that's when
you see Bleiberg's serious side.


''You cop a missile, you become dust,'' he recalls.
''It's not that you go to Adelaide, you go to Perth, you lose 3-0 and
you get some bad articles. Every activity you do is a life-threatening
situation. That's why for me, whatever Bill Shankly says, it's
peanuts.''


So how close did Bleiberg come to the edge? ''You're
searching for fishing boats, and every boat can be one of the three,''
he says. ''One, they can be real fishing boat. Two, they can be a drug
smuggler. Or three, they can be a weapons smuggler. When you tell them
to stop, you're going to do a search, you don't know if there is someone
hiding in the engine room. As an officer, you go first. Maybe there is
some terrorist hiding behind the generator, and he gets panic. Usually
he go with the hands up, but maybe you're in a dark room, he panic, he
shoot at you, he blow you up. You don't know. You're waiting for the
hands to come up, and you're sweating. I was lucky, I never got hurt.
But I got friends that died.''


Perhaps the closest Bleiberg came to death was during his
first two years of training. Torture, he calls it. ''You learn to take
your body to the extreme, and learn how much you can take,'' he says.
''Maybe that's why sometimes I'm tough with my players.''


So how tough was it? ''It's winter, maybe 5 degrees, you
go to sleep at 2 o'clock, after night activity, and you wake up after
two hours sleep, so you can go to a swim with your full uniform in the
sea, with the temperature which is probably zero, then you stay with
your wet clothes all day. Just to give you an example. Or you go to a
40-kilometre march when you have to carry someone all the time on a
stretcher with a wooden handle. By the end of it your shoulder is not
blue, it's green from the pain. Every 10km you get five minutes rest. In
this five minutes, you put your head on the bitumen and you fall asleep
because you're dead. For me, even now, I can fall asleep on the beach
on the spot without a pillow.'' That's tough.


AUSTRALIA, then, has been a breeze. Bleiberg left the
military and went to university to study commerce before departing on a
world tour with his partner, who's now his wife. There was a sense of
adventure, but also a sense of pacifism. Coaching came early, almost by
accident, after he bumped into a childhood friend, Itzhak Segal, who
encouraged him to sign up for a course in Tel Aviv. Bleiberg topped the
course, and by the next year was an instructor. ''I decided, basically, I
was a very good coach,'' he says. ''One of the ingredients you need is
natural leadership ingredients, natural charisma. If I didn't have all
this … it wouldn't matter if I went to the military, or I went to
university.''


It's Australia where all those life lessons have
coalesced into Bleiberg's coaching career. It might have been Europe,
and Bleiberg says: ''Even as we speak now, I can get a job in Israel. In
Australia, we struggle compared to rugby league and Aussie rules, but I
am happy to suffer for this one because you can sit in the dugout,
there is no violence towards you as a coach, you don't have to leave
with a police escort because your team is losing. That's why I've never
been tempted to go back. I'm happy to work in a non-violent environment,
because I'm a non-violent person. I saw enough killing; I came to
Australia to get away from all this. Can you imagine in Israel, you're
sitting there and the supporter is five metres away, and you're too
scared to look backwards?''


Bleiberg regularly returns to Israel to catch up with
school friends, navy friends. He doesn't advertise the fact he's a
football coach, because many of them are high achievers in more serious
pursuits. He loves going back to Haifa, but as of next year he will have
spent as much time in Australia as Israel, so it's Australia that is
now his real home. World Cup final, Australia versus Israel?
''Australia,'' he replies. ''I feel attached. I don't even know the
line-up of Israel any more.''


Bleiberg has been good for football here, and Australia
has been good to him. When he leaves the 26th floor of his Main Beach
apartment every morning, he could take the short cut to training down
the highway, or take the slow way along the esplanade to Broadbeach. He
always takes the coast road. ''It reminds me why I love this country so
much,'' he says.




Bleiberg doesn't need football for a living - his floor
covering business and property development have made him wealthy. He
coaches because he loves it, and it's what he does best. Bleiberg is
quick to acknowledge ''life is good''. Asked if he's the most relaxed
coach in world football, he responds: ''I'm probably in the top 5 per
cent.'' But don't think he's getting soft in his old age. On Boxing Day,
the win over one of his old clubs, Brisbane Roar, got Gold Coast off
the bottom. Tonight they face league leaders the Mariners in Gosford.


''I'm ambitious, I want to win. It hurt me that I'm
bottom of the ladder,'' he says. ''I like other coaches, but this week
I'm hating Graham Arnold. Next week, I'll give him all the respect he
deserves.''


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P.S. the only things I changed from how the article copied,
was to highlight the date, close up the spaces between paragraphs,
and remove the (ANTI)social media=twittering idiots, links.

Oh, it's also interesting that both Google Web and Images
offer NOTHING on their first pages of
THE AMERICAN DUST-BOWL, or NORTH AFRICAN Homes
and Villages being BURIED UNDER Sand OFTEN and
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Julia Gillard and her partner Tim Mathieson during the 2010 federal poll. Herald Sun

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And it has been revealed little can be done if voters deny it.


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and 80 per cent of the 1458 who confessed were new voters or did not
understand how to vote.


It was decided 7925 were errors, many caused when
voters with similar names were recorded under the same name by accident.


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Post  true lilly on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:52 pm

Here we go, just a little evidence that "tintin" does NOT 'DECODE',
but rather, USES CODE TO SECRETLY COMMUNICATE, in public.

Now I find so many of these, by "tintin", "cori" and others, that
it is hard to decide where to start and stop, in showing folk.

But I will ask people to just have a random scroll through some
of "tintin/cori's" earlier and later posts, to SEE HOW OFTEN 'they'
CHANGE what 'they' 'link' and what 'they' 'say something means'.

Two main reasons for this: when an old CODE is "BROKEN", 'they'
need a NEW CODE; when 'SITUATIONS' CHANGE, so do ORDERS.

Well it isn't only the physical earth and 'MOUNTAINS' that are now
SHAKING, but 'MOUNTAINS' of 'power' built by men of DUST, so,
lots of coded chatter is going on.

But as I've always stated, codes and puzzles are NOT 'my thing',
but rather, patterns and breaks and anomalies in patterns that
INDICATE when "OTHER THINGS" ARE BEING "SAID".

And as I've also always stated, I KNOW GOD HAS ALWAYS had
HIS 'CALLED OUT' doing their parts, big and small (and often,
not being aware of it at the time), in FULFILLING HIS PROMISES.

Among them, ARE, CODE BREAKERS.

I pray they are onto THIS:


tintin wrote:BONANZA adressed RACISM. Uniquely for that time
Quote:
Bigotry, and specifically anti-semitism, was the subject of the episode
"Look to the Stars" (Season 3, Episode 26; original air date 18/3/62).

ANTISEMITISM was the subject of episode 92.
It was aired on 18 MARCH, birthday AJAX AMSTERDAM aka THE JEWS.
Episode 92 was LOOK TO THE STARS. (of DAVID)

PAKISTAN, code 92. Founded by JINNAH, dead 11 SEPTEMBER.
BEN CARTWRIGHT played by LORNE GREENE, dead 11 SEPTEMBER
BIN LADEN dead in PAKISTAN.
_________________________________________________________________

Now let me draw your attention, with some underlines and
blue and red font, to what can NOT be passed off as a typo, mistake,
or any of 'their' cover stories used when 'they' are busted.


26. Yet he 'plays down' and 'hides behind' bigger red font, 62,
then proceeds to CHANGE 26 to 92?


And, keeping in mind how 'flexible' "tintin/cori" are with "their"
flipping, reversing, shuffling and changing of LETTERS and NUMBERS
(like 'making' 26 'mean' 'NEDA DEAD' 'from' a "206" Peugeot that she
was NOT EVEN IN, when
SNIPER SHOT TO DEATH), in order to "SAY
WHAT 'THEY' SECRETLY MEAN"... 9+2=11...
...read on:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060511098&postcount=33449
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3345
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BONANZA adressed RACISM. Uniquely for that time
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Bigotry, and specifically anti-semitism, was the subject of the episode
"Look to the Stars" (Season 3, Episode 26; original air date 18/3/62).

ANTISEMITISM was the subject of episode 92.
It was aired on 18 MARCH, birthday AJAX AMSTERDAM aka THE JEWS.
Episode 92 was LOOK TO THE STARS. (of DAVID)

PAKISTAN, code 92. Founded by JINNAH, dead 11 SEPTEMBER.
BEN CARTWRIGHT played by LORNE GREENE, dead 11 SEPTEMBER
BIN LADEN dead in PAKISTAN.
Interesting (to me, and noted by others), that BOTH times I was
savagely beaten into hospital, 8 months apart, was ON The 26th.

The second time being on 26/1, AUSTRALIA DAY.

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Post  sharky on Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:52 am

you like to spam other peoples Thread with off topic bullshit? Have a taste of your own medicine............. thumbs up

true lilly wrote: .......

................... rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin . rolling pin
And as I've also always stated, I KNOW GOD
HAS ALWAYS had
HIS 'CALLED OUT' doing their parts, big and small (and often,
not being aware of it at the time), in FULFILLING HIS PROMISES.



Barnacle Bill wrote: It's definitely not you , you New Age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi.........you're exactly like David Icke.a sufferer of the Nacissistic Personality Disorder.....you mislead the gullible......................................Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter's "rudeness" or "stupidity" or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a "narcissist" or as someone with "narcissism." Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.................•Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
•Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
•Requires excessive admiration
•Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
•Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
•Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
•Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
•Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
.............
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http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm

ANTISEMITISM rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin

But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, "They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ for
THEMSELVES....................The other EVIL of
SELLING Egypt for MITSRAYIM, is that it causes the TIME LINES of Human History
to be RIDICULOUSLY CONTRACTED into a SHORT period
of THE LAST KINGDOM AGE PERU...pooped all over Israel...Israel walked...and all that power...
dried up...then...even greater than all that was...everywhere,
all over the Americas...was built in OZ...then...in their human
pride...Israel forgot God...
{YHWHs Covenant with Abraham/Israel is eternal...........He forgives them for their human foibles.here lilly is saying that YHWH is a liar and promise breaker...she promotes Church Replacement Theology..aNew age Neo Pagan fantasy.........)

http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=home&type=2
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=3&type=12


The hideous falsehood known as [u]replacement theology has been a cancer in theological circles for the past two millennia that just seems to refuse to go away. While replacement theology takes on different applications, and modes, it is a theology originated by the early non Jewish fathers of the so called "Christian Church". It coldly states that a new Rome centered, and Roman based ecclesiastical organization called "the church", is the "new Israel". This new Israel, would now forever replace Jewish Israel, since Yahuwah permanently rejected the Jews for killing their Messiah, His Son. Extreme proponents of replacement theology have even gone so far as to claim that Yahuwah, the mean, and cruel despot, was the Elohim of the Old Covenant Jews, as opposed to Yahshua who is the forever loving, kind, and compassionate Elohim who had REPLACED YAHUWAH AS LORD OF "THE CHURCH" OR THE SO CALLED "NEW ISRAEL". In other words, Yahshua’s people have replaced the Father’s people.

This hideous doctrine is by no means a small theological side issue to be argued in a local pub. It has been at the forefront of antisemitism, Judeo-phobia, and has fully provided fuel for tragic historical events such as the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Crusades, the ouster of the Jews from every European country, as well as the Nazi holocaust......................................
..



The Source of all that and more...and...
so...OZ was UTTERLY DEVASTATED...and Israel headed north...
and, scattered, mixed and mingled...over all the world...again...
to start re-gathering...some few hundred years ago...Back in...
The Home Land...promised...preserved...in O'Zion...to again...
better than ever...anywhere...anytime...Re-Plant & Re-Build..........................Ah, but I'm just "CRAZY" aren't I?


lilly, you said it yourself....you are crazy, batshit crazy..... thumbs up ......... you are a crazed New age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi.......what you are doing is known as Eisegesis..the opposite of exegesis......

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eisegesis

Definition of EISEGESIS
: the interpretation of a text (as of the Bible) by reading into it one's own ideas — compare exegesis

THIS: is what honest Scriptural researchers engage in:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exegesis

Definition of EXEGESIS
: exposition, explanation; especially : an explanation or critical interpretation of a text



true lilly wrote: Now please, KNOW THIS:

If anyone of Authority, had have told me,
"shut up about Australia", during any of
the decades I've been asking these questions
and seeking real answers, I WOULD HAVE. But by ALEXANDER The Great ANTI-CHRIST
SELLING US 'EGYPT' as MITSRAYIM instead of The AMERICAS
as HOLY SCRIPTURE DESCRIBES and ACTUAL, BURIED HISTORY
SHOWS, the whole world is KILLING over a USELESS STRIP of
DESERT, Israel/Zion
"They" TELL us is 'holy', while PRESERVING OZ/Australia for
THEMSELVES!

Actually, scripture itself rebukes your lies, False translations perpetuate false interpretations, and false interpretations lead to false churches. thumbs up

And to call Israel/Zion a 'useless piece of desert illuminates your ignorance and deceit.....here are the actual facts:..

The 7 Wonders of the Jewish World

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=245708

1. Monotheism

There is an old ditty which goes, “How odd of God, to choose the Jews.” One of the many rejoinders is: “It’s not so odd; the Jews chose God.” Yet it is that very choosing of God which is odd and remarkable. As archeologist and Egyptologist Henri Frankfort wrote, “The dominant tenet of Hebrew thought is the absolute transcendence of God. God is not in nature. Neither earth nor sun nor heaven is divine; even the most potent natural phenomena are but reflections of God’s greatness... it needs an effort of the imagination to realize the shattering boldness of a contempt for imagery at the time, and in the particular historical setting, of the Hebrews.”

Aside from its role in shaping religion, monotheism also laid the foundation for the rise of science; as several historians of science have noted, the idea that disparate phenomena all follow fundamental “laws” flowed from monotheism. And the billions of adherents of Christianity and Islam are all adopting a monotheism initiated by the Jewish People.

2. The Land of Israel


The land of Israel, promised to Abraham, is small. It does not host the greatest waterfalls or the tallest mountains. But it is nevertheless remarkable within the natural world. Geographically, the land of Israel is at the junction of three continents: Europe, Asia and Africa. Within its tiny area, it houses an incredible diversity of landscapes: snowy slopes, tropical beaches, arid deserts and green forests. As a result of all this, the land of Israel is home to an astonishingly diverse range of flora and fauna. It is the southernmost range of many northern species, the westernmost range of eastern species, and the northernmost range of southern species. As the Midrash states, Israel is the center of the world.


3. Torah

Literally meaning “teaching,” the word Torah is often used in the narrow sense of referring to the Five Books of Moses. But in its broadest sense, it refers to the entire gamut of Jewish teachings. This marvelous body of literature chronicles a nation’s efforts over millennia to connect with the Divine, to improve the individual, to regulate society and to stretch the mind. Scripture, Talmud, midrash, philosophy, mysticism, law, ethics – it encompasses every intellectual taste and every aspect of our lives.

4. The calendar

The wonder of the Jewish calendar is not limited to the way in which it manages to synchronize three entirely unrelated natural phenomena: the rotation of the earth on its axis, the revolution of the moon around the earth, and the revolution of the earth around the sun.

The very contents of the Jewish calendar are so much richer than in the joke which describes it as consisting of two types of events: “They tried to kill us, we won, let’s eat,” and “They tried to kill us, we didn’t win, let’s not eat.”

We celebrate national salvation and religious freedom; we observe days of solemnity, repentance and introspection; and we mourn the loss of people and precious elements of our heritage. Most wonderful of all is the Sabbath, during which, miraculously, I am able to resist checking my e-mail for a full twenty-four hours.

5. Jewish survival

The Jewish People, never large in number, have been faced with hatred for over 3,000 years. We have been exiled from our home and forced into servitude and exile among hostile nations. We have suffered persecution in every one of the numerous countries in which we have lived. Nations faced with far fewer existential threats have disappeared, and yet we have survived.

Mark Twain famously asked, “The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then... passed away. The Greek and the Roman followed. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts... What is the secret of his immortality?”

And we made it back to our homeland after 2,000 years of exile, an event completely unparalleled in world history.

6.The State of Israel

Like every citizen of Israel, and especially like every oleh (immigrant), I could rant endlessly about the shortcomings of the State of Israel (though unlike the citizens of our neighboring countries, I could do so without fear of being thrown in prison). But this would be a smallminded perspective that does not take into account the incredible challenges that the state overcomes.

Despite having to absorb an enormous number of immigrants in a short span of time, and having to devote a ridiculously large amount of resources to national defense, Israel has managed to create a vibrant democracy, an oasis of prosperity, producing astonishing accomplishments in every field, all while successfully repelling repeated attempts at annihilation.


7.Global significance

Although numbering only 0.2% of the total world population today, and never having numbered much more than that, the Jewish People have always had an inexplicably large impact upon the world. The spread of monotheism is the most significant example, but we have also made disproportionate contributions in every sphere of knowledge and endeavor. Meanwhile, the United Nations is obsessed with Israel, condemning it more than every other country put together. If anything, we’re too significant for our own good.

Those are the Seven Wonders of the Jewish World as I see them, which I think are much more wonderful than the Seven Wonders of the ancient world. Colossus, schmolossus.



more proof lilly is lying. thumbs up
Israeli Agriculture: Coping with Growth
By Jon Fedler
Editor of Agrictech Israel Magazine


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/agriculture/aggrowth.html

By the year 2020, Israel's population is expected to grow by 42 percent, to 8.5 million. This will cause huge increases in demand for agricultural produce and products; but urban use of land and water will also increase enormously.

In 2020 only half the amount of fresh water allocated to agriculture today (around 700 million cubic meters a year) will be available for this purpose and the amount of suitable land available for farming (360,000 hectares) will be 18 percent less than at present.

Part of the increased demand - notably for field crops (such as cereals, oilseeds and sugar) and for milk products, fish and beef - will have to be met by increased imports. Nevertheless a substantial part of that growing demand will have to come from increased domestic production. Sweeping changes will be required, such as a 33% increase in the labor force and a reduction in irrigated field crops, such as cotton, to make water available for growing fruit and vegetables for the local market.

The above is based on a study by the Ministry of Agriculture, which forecasts that despite its handicaps Israel will be able, by 2020, to increase production of agricultural goods by 48 percent over 1993 figures, averaging a growth of 1.5 percent per annum in real terms. This is certainly consistent with recent developments. Except for a brief period of uneven growth in the second half of the 1980s, agricultural output has grown consistently since 1948.

Despite the decline in its importance relative to other economic branches, agriculture has been growing in absolute terms and still plays an important part in Israel's economy, representing today some 2.0 percent of the Gross Domestic Product and about 3.5 percent of exports. Agricultural inputs produced in Israel are valued today at over $2 billion, of which 70% are exported.

Agriculture is of major national importance; in certain areas, such as the Arava and the Jordan Valley, it provides the sole means of livelihood for the population. In 1996 approximately 73,500 people were involved in farming, constituting about 3.0 percent of the country's workforce.

In monetary terms, Israel produces almost 70% of all its food requirements. It imports much of its grain, oilseeds, meat and fish, and its the sugar, coffee and cocoa. However, these imports are offset by exports of agricultural produce valued at around $800 million and $600 million worth of processed foods per annum. Today, just under a quarter of the income of Israel's farmers derives from the export of fresh produce, including items such as flowers, avocados, out-of-season vegetables and certain exotic fruits grown for export. In 1996 some 140,000 tons of fruit and vegetables - 14 percent of the entire crop - were sold to factories for processing and export.

This is a far cry from the situation a century ago. When Jews began resettling their historic homeland in the late 19th century, their first efforts were directed towards reclaiming the mostly semi-arid land, much of which was rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. Rocky fields were cleared and terraces built in the hilly regions; swampland was drained, and systematic reforestation begun; soil erosion was counteracted, and salty land washed to reduce soil salinity.

Since Israel attained its independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 165,000 ha. to some 435,000 ha. and the number of agricultural communities has grown from 400 to 900 (including 136 Arab villages). During the same period, agricultural production has expanded 16-fold, more than three times the rate of the population growth.

Israel's varied climatic, topographical and soil conditions (from sub-tropical to arid, from 400 meters below sea level to 1000 meters above and from sand dunes to heavy alluvial soils) made it possible to grow a wide range of agricultural produce. The success of the country's agriculture stems from the determination and ingenuity of farmers and scientists who have dedicated themselves to developing a flourishing agriculture in a country which is more than half desert, thus demonstrating that the real value of land is a function of how it is used................Growing Crops in the Desert
Since 1948, the sparsely populated desert area between Be'er Sheva and Eilat has played an important role in agricultural production. More than 40 percent of the country's vegetables and field crops are grown in the Arava and Negev and 90 percent of the melons exported come from the Arava.
..........



http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=191709

The Eternal Jew
One of the biggest cover-ups/False Flags in History is the massive misrepresentations/lies of and about the Jews. Their history, their beliefs, their culture etc.........

Over 300 years ago, King Louis XIV of France asked Blaise Pascal, the great Christian philosopher, to give him proof of God. Pascal answered, “Why the Jews, your Majesty, the Jews!”
http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...ewish-history/


Quote:
That the Jewish nation—such a tiny group of people—survived two thousand years of exile and persecution was nothing short of a supernatural phenomenon. Pascal wasn’t the only one who was so amazed by the survival of the Jewish people. Other thinkers, philosophers and historians have noticed something unusual about the Jews.

Mark Twain, an agnostic and self-acknowledged skeptic, penned this in 1899 in Harper’s Magazine:

“The Egyptian, Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away. The Greek and Roman followed, made a vast noise and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up, and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out and they sit in twilight now or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal, but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”....................4) Anti-Semitism
(TOP)

The term “anti-Semitism” itself is very curious. Why not refer to the hatred and persecution of Jews by more generic terms like religious bigotry, xenophobia, or racism? The Jews are the only group in the world with a unique term for their persecution. Why? The world seems to realize that anti-Semitism isn’t simply one more unfortunate example of hatred in the world, but is instead a phenomenon specific to the Jews.

There are four different aspects to anti-Semitism which characterize it as being a hatred like no other:

1) Universality
2) Intensity
3) Longevity
4) Irrationality

Universality:
The universal scope of anti-Semitism can be seen in the fact that Jews have been expelled from virtually every country in which they have resided. Jews were expelled from England in 1290, France in 1306 and 1394, Hungary in 1349 and 1360, Austria in 1421, from various places in Germany throughout the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, from Lithuania in 1445 and 1495, Spain in 1492, Portugal in 1497, and from Bohemia and Moravia in 1744-45. Between the 15th and 18th centuries, Jews were not permitted to enter Russia, and when they were finally admitted, they were restricted to one area, the Pale of Settlement.

Parallel to these atrocities in Europe were various levels of anti-Semitism at the hands of the Arabs. From Islam’s inception in the 7th century, the Jews living in Arab countries were constantly made to feel like second-class citizens. Violent outbreaks sporadically occurred throughout the following 1300 years and reached a climax during the years 1948 and 1967. During that period, almost all of the Jews living in Aden, Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Yemen, over 500,000 in all, were forced to flee, fearing for their lives, in the wake of pogroms, assaults and massacres.

Even as far away as Ethiopia, where a small community of Jews were cut off from the rest of the Jewish people for over 2000 years, we find evidence of persecution from the neighboring peoples. There has even been evidence of anti-Semitism in Japan—a country where virtually no Jews ever lived!
Jewish Persecution Timeline


Intensity:
The ultimate example is the Holocaust (acknowledged throughout the world as the ultimate manifestation of evil in all of history)—the only time an entire people (i.e., men, women and children) had a campaign of complete annihilation waged against them.


Longevity:
Most of the world’s great powers, even those with only a small percentage of Jews among them, regarded the Jews as a central enemy. This phenomenon began as early as the Greek persecutions of Jews during the Second Temple period. It continued with the late Roman Empire, the Arabs, and the Christian world for over 15 centuries (most notably with the frequent occurrence of blood libels all throughout the Middle Ages) and more recently with the Nazis and the Soviet Union, as well as the Arabs today.

FULL LIST OF EMPIRES AGAINST THE JEWS:
Egyptian Empire,
Chaldean Empire,
Babylonian Empire,
Greek Empire,
Roman Empire,
Byzantine Empire,
Spanish Empire,
Ottoman Turkish Empire,
British Empire,
Austro-Hungarian Empire,
German Empire,
French Empire,
Russia Empire,
Soviet Empire,
Nazi Empire

Irrationality:
We are the only people ever accused of “deicide” (killing a god)—this has been claimed as one of the major causes of anti-Semitism for almost 2000 years. Despite the fact that eating blood is as strong a prohibition as that against eating pork, Jews were constantly persecuted throughout the Middle Ages through blood libels, the charge that we drank the blood of non-Jewish children. We were attacked in pogroms for well-poisoning and once even for air-poisoning.

The Jews in Germany were accused of having brought Socialism and Communism to Germany, of being responsible for Germany losing World War I, and of causing the economic problems of the 1920’s. This paranoia existed in spite of the fact that the percentage of Jews in Germany at the time was only 0.8%. Many nations have even hurt themselves with their persecution of the Jews, most notably Spain (economically) and Germany (with science, culture, military, etc.).

A forgery purporting to be the conspiratorial discussions of Jewish elders plotting to take over the world, “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” was, next to the Bible, the best-selling book in the world during the 1920’s. It has since been printed in numerous languages. Since 1987 it is being widely distributed in Japan…

Of all the extreme fanaticism that plays havoc in man’s nature, there is none as irrational as anti-Semitism. The Jews cannot vindicate themselves in the eyes of these fanatics. If the Jews are rich, they are victims of theft and extortion. If they are poor, they are victims of ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to gain advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it is because they are scared and anxious by nature or traitors to their country. If the Jew dwells in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to his own land, he is prevented from doing so. - Lloyd George, 1923



Whatever we do, that is precisely what is cited as the reason for the hatred against us. At the same time that Jews in America were accused of being communists, Jews in Russia were being labeled as capitalists. The more one studies anti-Semitism, the more obvious it becomes that the innumerable “explanations” offered throughout the various societies in which Jews have resided are not reasons at all (i.e. whose absence would necessarily result in no more persecutions), but rather excuses.

But as my research into Jewish history progressed, I was surprised, depressed, and to some extent overwhelmed by the perpetual and irrational violence which pursued the Jews in every country and to almost every corner of the globe. If, therefore, persecution, expulsion, torture, humiliation, and mass murder haunt these pages, it is because they also haunt the Jewish story.
- Martin Gilbert, “Jewish History Atlas” Oxford 1985

It has been prophesied in the Torah that Jews will be persecuted:

“Among those nations you shall find no respite, no rest for your foot. There God will make you cowardly, destroying your outlook and making life hopeless. You will live in constant suspense. Day and night, you will be terrified, never sure of your existence. In the morning you will say, ‘If only it were night,’ and in the evening you will say, ‘If only it were morning!’ Such will be the dread that your heart will feel and the sights that your eyes will see” (Deut. 28:65-67).

No other form of racial hatred comes close to anti-Semitism in its virulence, its intensity and its irrationality.

As Professor Michael Curtis of Rutgers University put it:

“The uniqueness of anti-Semitism lies in the fact that no other people in the world have ever been charged simultaneously with alienation from society and with cosmopolitanism, with being capitalistic exploiters and also revolutionary communist advocators. The Jews were accused of having an imperious mentality, at the same time they’re a people of the book. They’re accused of being militant aggressors, at the same time as being cowardly pacifists. With being a chosen people, and also having an inferior human nature. With both arrogance and timidity. With both extreme individualism and community adherence. With being guilty of the crucifixion of Jesus and at the same time held to account for the invention of Christianity.” (Colloquium on anti-Semitism, 1987)

If we look at the history of anti-Semitism, we see one unceasing chain of slaughter, pogroms, pillaging, expulsion, etc. There are horrendous levels of violence that lead up to the worst thing that can be done to a hated people: Genocide. Most nations in history have not been subjected to even one genocide. But in almost every generation there’s an attempted Jewish genocide somewhere in the world on a macrocosmic or microcosmic scale.
Jewish Persecution Timeline


http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdCo...aspx?id=245708


Dispersed among the Nations, the Jews brought a great many benefits to a great many people. As a Gentile I thank them and YHWH. thumbs up


http://www.jinfo.org/

"And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many peoples, as dew from the Lord, as showers upon the grass..." MICAH 5:6*


The Jews started it all - and by "it" I mean so many of the things we care about, the underlying values that make all of us, Jew and Gentile, believer and atheist, tick. Without the Jews, we would see the world with different eyes, hear with different ears, even feel with different feelings. And not only would our sensorium, the screen through which we receive the world, be different: we would think with a different mind, interpret all our experience differently, draw different conclusions from the things that befall us. And we would set a different course for our lives.
By "we" I mean the usual "we" of late-twentieth-century writing: the people of the Western world, whose peculiar but vital mentality has come to infect every culture on earth, so that, in a startlingly precise sense, all humanity is now willy-nilly caught up in this "we." For better or worse, the role of the West in humanity's history is singular. Because of this, the role of the Jews, the inventors of Western culture, is also singular: there is simply no one else remotely like them; theirs is a unique vocation. Indeed, as we shall see, the very idea of vocation, of a personal destiny, is a Jewish idea.

Our history is replete with examples of those who have refused to see what the Jews are really about, who - through intellectual blindness, racial chauvinism, xenophobia, or just plain evil - have been unable to give this oddball tribe, this raggle-taggle band, this race of wanderers who are the progenitors of the Western world, their due. Indeed, at the end of this bloodiest of centuries, we can all too easily look back on scenes of unthinkable horror perpetrated by those who would do anything rather than give the Jews their due.

But I must ask my readers to erase from their minds not only the horrors of history - modern, medieval, and ancient - but (so far as one can) the very notion of history itself. More especially, we must erase from our minds all the suppositions on which our world is built - the whole intricate edifice of actions and ideas that are our intellectual and emotional patrimony. We must reimagine ourselves in the form of humanity that lived and moved on this planet before the first word of the Bible was written down, before it was spoken, before it was even dreamed ...

... All evidence points to there having been, in the earliest religious thought, a vision of the cosmos that was profoundly cyclical. The assumptions that early man made about the world were, in all their essentials, little different from the assumptions that later and more sophisticated societies, like Greece and India, would make in a more elaborate manner. As Henri-Charles Puech says of Greek thought in his seminal Man and Time: "No event is unique, nothing is enacted but once ... every event has been enacted, is enacted, and will be enacted perpetually; the same individuals have appeared, appear, and will appear at every turn of the circle."

The Jews were the first people to break out of this circle, to find a new way of thinking and experiencing, a new way of understanding and feeling the world, so much so that it may be said with some justice that theirs is the only new idea that human beings have ever had. But their world view has become so much a part of us that at this point it might as well have been written into our cells as a genetic code. We find it so impossible to shed - even for a brief experiment - that it is now the cosmic vision of all other peoples that appears to us exotic and strange.


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Adapted with permission of the publisher from A History of the Jews, by Paul Johnson (HarperCollins, New York, ©️1987, p. 585; http://www.harpercollins.com).
In his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus describes Abraham as 'a man of great sagacity' who had 'higher notions of virtue than others of his time'. He therefore 'determined to change completely the views which all then had about God'. One way of summing up 4,000 years of Jewish history is to ask ourselves what would have happened to the human race if Abraham had not been a man of great sagacity, or if he had stayed in Ur and kept his higher notions to himself, and no specific Jewish people had come into being. Certainly the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they have been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of the human person; of the individual conscience, and so of personal redemption; of the collective conscience, and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items that constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without the Jews it might have been a much emptier place. Above all, the Jews taught us how to rationalize the unknown. The result was monotheism...



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Adapted with permission of the publisher from On Two Wings: Humble Faith and Common Sense at the American Founding, by Michael Novak (Encounter Books, San Francisco, CA, ©️2002, pp. 8-12; http://www.encounterbooks.com).
"The Bible was the one book that literate Americans in the seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth centuries could be expected to know well," Robert Bellah has written. "Biblical imagery provided the basic framework for imaginative thought in America up until quite recent times and, unconsciously, its control is still formidable." As a design for the Seal of the United States, Jefferson suggested "a representation of the children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night." He later concluded his second inaugural address with this same image: "I shall need ... the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our fathers, as Israel of old, from their native land and planted them in a country flowing with all the necessaries and comforts of life." The image of "God's American Israel" made available four fresh perspectives, brought to intense focus by the Americans in a new and historically original way.

The first of these new perspectives was a narrative of purpose and progress. The Gentiles of the ancient world believed in cycles of time as regular (they thought) as the circular movements of the stars. They believed in eternal recurrence. But the Americans of 1770-1799 did not believe that time is cyclical, going nowhere, spinning in circles pointlessly. They believed that history had a beginning and was guided by Providence for a purpose... Time (in the view of the founders) was created for the unfolding of human liberty, for human emancipation. This purpose requires humans to choose for or against building cities worthy of the ideals God sets before them: liberty, justice, equality, self-government, and brotherhood...

... History, in this sense - open, purposive, contingent in liberty - is not a Greek or Roman idea. It is Hebraic; its source springs from the Biblical historians and prophets. Probably most of the humans who had ever lived before the arrival of Judaism on the world stage never even heard of "progress." The literature of Greece and Rome looks backwards, to golden ages of the past; the movement of time is circular. For Jews and Christians, by contrast, history is heading somewhere new: toward the New Kingdom of God, a kingdom of justice and love and peace, a new city on a hill...

... Second, Hebrew metaphysics held that everything in creation in all its workings and purposes is intelligible - suffused with reason, not absurd - in the eyes of a divine and loving Creator, Who created from nothing everything that is, and saw that it was good, and loved it; a Creator Who is more powerful than earthquakes, floods, erupting volcanos, hurricanes or anything else in the world, and different from them. One should not mistake this God for any part of His creation - as the Mayan Indians seem to have done, identifying God with rain and snakes and frogs and jackals (powerful forces in the dark, all of them). On the one hand, the world is not in itself divine. On the other, its Creator cannot be touched, tasted, heard, seen, or smelled. The Creator is independent of the world; therefore, the world can be looked into, investigated, and experimented with without infringing on His divinity. Strictly speaking, the Creator is beyond human categories, cannot be expressed in words that are like other words, imagined from the things of this world, or named as other things are named. He is not part of the material world. Seeking Him, it is better to aim one's mind in the direction of Spirit and Truth rather than matter, toward an Ineffable One Whom we do not name...

...Third, cherishing humble and weak things most of all, the Creator made at least two creatures to know Him, to love Him, and in total freedom (and not as slaves) to walk with Him - "male and female, He made them" (Genesis 1:27). "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time," Jefferson wrote summarizing the Biblical metaphysic. Liberty is the human condition established by the Bible, nearly every chapter of which turns upon its axis. What will Adam, King David, Peter, Saul, do next? Liberty is the axis of the universe, the ground of the possibility of love, human and divine... Moreover, the American tradition clearly distinguished a false idea of liberty - license - from the true liberty exercised in reflection and deliberate choice. Despite this high calling, men and women fail often, are vulnerable to human weakness, and are in want of checks and balances against their frailties.

Fourth, in Hebrew metaphysics the brief span of a human life is experienced as a time of suffering, testing whether humans can remain faithful to God's purposes in creating them - whether we will (or will not) show grace under pressure. In the Bible, the bright red thread of human history is not just liberty but liberty on trial...

...This drama of liberty gave birth to two "whig" theories of history, one Protestant and one Catholic. Nowadays, even secular people interpret history in the light of progress, rights, and liberty. Yet unbelievers received these concepts neither from the Greeks and Romans nor from Enlightened Reason, but via the preaching of Jesus Christ, from whom the Gentiles learned the essential outlook of the Hebrews: that the Creator gave humans a special place among all other creatures, and made them free, and endowed them with incomparable responsibility and dignity.

This sequence of related conceptions - that time had a beginning and is measured for progress (or decline) by God's standards; that everything in the world is intelligible, and that to inquire, invent, and discover is an impulse of faith as well as of reason; that the Creator endowed us with liberty and inviolable dignity, while the Divine Judge shows concern for the weak and the humble; that life is a time of duty and trial; and that history is to be grasped as the drama of human liberty - all these are the background that make sense of the Declaration of Independence. America and Israel, the first Israel and the second, shed light on each other...


Well......................if you liked this Thread thus far.now you're gonna be ecstatic!!!

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/quotes/

“I will insist the Hebrews have [contributed] more to civilize men than any other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations ... They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.”

- John Adams, Second President of the United States
(From a letter to F. A. Van der Kemp [Feb. 16, 1808] Pennsylvania Historical Society)

http://www.simpletoremember.com/arti...pactofthejews/

Do any of you understand the concept of Abstract Ethical Monotheism?

“This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth… [But] for the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; [and] as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

- Robert Jastrow
(God and the Astronomers [New York: W.W. Norton and Co., 1978], 116. Professor Jastrow was the founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute, now director of the Mount Wilson Institute and its observatory.)


”...If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of the Milky way. properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it.

The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed; and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”

- Mark Twain
(“Concerning The Jews,” Harper’s Magazine, 1899
see The Complete Essays of Mark Twain, Doubleday [1963] pg. 249)


“if we were forced to choose just one, there would be no way to deny that Judaism is the most important intellectual development in human history.”
- David Gelernter, Yale University Professor



“The preservation of the Jews is really one of the most signal and illustrious acts of divine Providence… and what but a supernatural power could have preserved them in such a manner as none other nation upon earth hath been preserved. Nor is the providence of God less remarkable in the destruction of their enemies, than in their preservation… We see that the great empires, which in their turn subdued and oppressed the people of God, are all come to ruin… And if such hath been the fatal end of the enemies and oppressors of the Jews, let it serve as a warning to all those, who at any time or upon any occasion are for raising a clamor and persecution against them.”

- Thomas Newton - British Clergyman: Bishop of Bristol (1704-1782)


“For many people during many centuries, mankind’s history before the coming of Christianity was the history of the Jews and what they recounted of the history of others. Both were written down in the books called the Old Testament, [the Torah] the sacred writings of the Jewish people ... They were the first to arrive at an abstract notion of God and to forbid his representation by images. No other people has produced a greater historical impact from such comparatively insignificant origins and resources ...”
- J.M. Roberts, History Of The World



Intolerance lies at the core of evil.
Not the intolerance that results
from any threat or danger.
But intolerance of another being who dares to exist.
Intolerance without cause. It is so deep within us,
because every human being secretly desires
the entire universe to himself.
Our only way out is to learn
compassion without cause. To care for each other
simple because that ‘other’ exists.
- Rabbi Menachem Mendle

This people are not eminent solely by their antiquity, but are also singular by their duration, which has always continued from their origin till now. For, whereas the nations of Greece and of Italy, of Lacedaemon, of Athens and of Rome, and others who came long after, have long since perished, these ever remain, and in spite of the endeavors of many powerful kings who have a hundred times tried to destroy them, as their historians testify, and as it is easy to conjecture from the natural order of things during so long a space of years, they have nevertheless been preserved (and this preservation has been foretold); and extending from the earliest times to the latest, their history comprehends in its duration all our histories (which it preceded by a long time).
- Pensees by Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Encyclopedia Britannica, 1952 - Paragraph 620, p. 285


“Certainly, the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the human intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they had been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of human person; of the individual conscience and so a personal redemption; of collective conscience and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items which constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without Jews it might have been a much emptier place.”

- Paul Johnson
(Christian historian, author of A History of the Jews and A History of Christianity)


“This one book (the Bible) ... has attracted to it, and had concentrated on it, vastly more thought and has called forth more works, explanatory, illustrative, apologetic, upon its text, its meaning, its geography, its theology, its chronology, its evidences, its inspiration, its origin, than all the rest of the literature of the world put together. An immense bulk of the world’s literature owes its origin to this book.”
- Carlyle B Heynes in The Bible, Is it a True Book


“What is the Jew?...What kind of unique creature is this whom all the rulers of all the nations of the world have disgraced and crushed and expelled and destroyed; persecuted, burned and drowned, and who, despite their anger and their fury, continues to live and to flourish. What is this Jew whom they have never succeeded in enticing with all the enticements in the world, whose oppressors and persecutors only suggested that he deny (and disown) his religion and cast aside the faithfulness of his ancestors?!
The Jew - is the symbol of eternity. ... He is the one who for so long had guarded the prophetic message and transmitted it to all mankind. A people such as this can never disappear.
The Jew is eternal. He is the embodiment of eternity.”

- Leo Tolstoy
(What is the Jew?
quoted in The Final Resolution, pg. 189, printed in Jewish World periodical, 1908)


“Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas.”


It is against their own insoluble problem of being human that the dull and base in humanity are in revolt in anti-Semitism. Judaism, nevertheless, together with Hellenism and Christianity is an inalienable component of our Christian Western civilization, the eternal “call to Sinai” against which humanity again and again rebels.”
- Herman Rauschning, The Beast From the Abyss, pp. 155-56

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The Jews, not the New Age Neo Pagan Neo Nazi tru lilly The Jews; YHWHs 'Chosen Bearers of His Word' overwhemingly support Israel which ios th eREAL ZION................................NOT Australia the fake zion........... thumbs up

I think you need to understand what the word TRUTH means..........Factual reality based experience............your allegations that most people who acall themselves Jews are lying and that most Jews are opposed to Israel/Zionism are false. These allegations are not supported by facts.
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antiz...s_not_Jews.htm


In summary

Almost all Jews (99%) are infact Zionists, but the definition Zionists (and infact almost all Jewish anti-Zionists) themselves use. If you use an antisemitic defintion such as Zionism as Racist you can of course invent statistics as you please. However you may as well declare Jews to be organges for all the meaning that has. It is unfortunate that a few sites, mostly antisemitic ones such as Serendipity link to the sites of the Satmar and Neturei Karta and try to spin a narrative of Zionists being a minority of Jews. It's unfortunate both because people believe it and get their facts wrong, but also becuase of the antisemitism they spread, antisemitism that those who wish to draw a destinction between the minority called Jews and the "evil entity" they have been attacking called Zionism are more than susceptible to.


If you would bother to read actual, credentialed History books, you would know that the Khazari Nation never converted to Judaism............the Royal Family did(King Bula), but the population largely remained Pagan, Dendrists, Animists, polytheists....

The Facts are: Israel is more legitimate then many other Nations, The Jews in Israel are genetically decended from the Ancient Israelites.....The Arabs suffer more oppression and mistreatment from other arabs......

You've bought into too much antisemitic propaganda..............in this Thread you have called me a Dog, A Rat, and a Whore.........your judgements based on false beliefs..........YOU are the threat to peace, you are the fearmongering, hatemongering liar............
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/


Here's the question: anti-Zionist or non-Zionist, is there a difference? The answer is yes. A Zionist is someone who supports the existance of a State of Israel as a Jewish Home Land (where Jews and others can live). A non-Zionist is one is not a Zionist. An anti-Zionist is someone who activly disputes the fact that Israel has a right to exist. Note that this is not the same as disagreeing with one or more Israeli government policies, it's more like supporting the President of Iran's calls to wipe Israel off the map. One can disagree with the actions of Israel as a state without being against the state's right to exist, and the right of the Jewish people to have their home land. Often though anti-Zionism is a mask for antisemitism and anti-Zionists will regurgitate antisemitic propoganda that was used in Nazi Germany, just changing "Zionist" or "Jew". Arguments against "the Zionists" as often supported by "evidence" from antisemitic propoganda such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or through classic antisemitism such as blood liable. There is a huge difference between speaking out against Israeli policy you disagree with and falling in with a racist crowd and adopting their arguments.

http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq...faq/14-05.html


Diaspora Jews, on the whole, support Zionism in one way or another through active participation in aspects of the movement itself, or through public and/or financial support of Israel.

Some Diaspora Jews realize their belief in Zionism by immigrating to the Land of Israel (making 'aliyah' - "going up") to participate directly in the task of rebuilding the nation.

Diaspora Jews, whether or not associated with Zionist activities, have been enriched culturally, socially and spiritually by the reestablishment of Israel in its ancestral homeland. Even non-Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews find Israel an excellent place for Torah study


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Re: David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA (3)

Post  sharky on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:13 am

Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland







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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave



http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

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Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
noway



Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Post  mugglez on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:36 am

Jerusalem:

Jerusalem Called "Zion"

http://www.biblicalzionist.com/calledzion.html

2Sm 5:7
Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

1Kg 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to king Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

2Kg 19:21,31
21 This is the word that Yahweh has spoken concerning him: The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you; the daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
31 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and out of Mount Zion those who shall escape: the zeal of Yahweh shall perform this.

1Ch 11:5
The inhabitants of Jebus said to David, You shall not come in here. Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

2Ch 5:2
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers’ houses of the children of Israel, to Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of Yahweh out of the city of David, which is Zion.

Ps 2:6
“Yet I have set my king on my holy hill of Zion.”

Ps 9:11,14
11 Sing praises to Yahweh, who dwells in Zion,
and declare among the people what he has done.
14 that I may show forth all your praise.
In the gates of the daughter of Zion, I will rejoice in your salvation.

Ps 14:7
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When Yahweh restores the fortunes of his people,
then Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 20:2
send you help from the sanctuary,
grant you support from Zion,

Ps 48:2,11,12
2 Beautiful in elevation, the joy of the whole earth,
is Mount Zion, on the north sides,
the city of the great King.
11 Let Mount Zion be glad!
Let the daughters of Judah rejoice,
Because of your judgments.
12 Walk about Zion, and go around her.
Number its towers.

Ps 50:2
Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty,
God shines forth.

Ps 51:18
Do well in your good pleasure to Zion.
Build the walls of Jerusalem.

Ps 53:6
Oh that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!
When God brings back his people from captivity,
then Jacob shall rejoice,
and Israel shall be glad.

Ps 69:35
For God will save Zion, and build the cities of Judah.
They shall settle there, and own it.

Ps 74:2
Remember your congregation, which you purchased of old,
which you have redeemed to be the tribe of your inheritance;
Mount Zion, in which you have lived.

Ps 76:2
His tabernacle is also in Salem;
His dwelling place in Zion.

Ps 78:68
But chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion which he loved.

Ps 84:7
They go from strength to strength.
Everyone of them appears before God in Zion.

Ps 87:2,5
2 Yahweh loves the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
5 Yes, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one was born in her;”
the Most High himself will establish her.

Ps 97:8
Zion heard and was glad.
The daughters of Judah rejoiced,
because of your judgments, Yahweh.

Ps 99:2
Yahweh is great in Zion.
He is high above all the peoples.

Ps 102:13,16,21
13 You will arise and have mercy on Zion;
for it is time to have pity on her.
Yes, the set time has come.
16 For Yahweh has built up Zion.
He has appeared in his glory.
21 that men may declare the name of Yahweh in Zion,
and his praise in Jerusalem;

Ps 110:2
Yahweh will send forth the rod of your strength out of Zion.
Rule in the midst of your enemies.

Ps 125:1
Those who trust in Yahweh are as Mount Zion,
which can’t be moved, but remains forever.

Ps 126:1
When Yahweh brought back those who returned to Zion,
we were like those who dream.

Ps 128:5
May Yahweh bless you out of Zion,
and may you see the good of Jerusalem all the days of your life.

Ps 129:5
Let them be disappointed and turned backward,
all those who hate Zion.

Ps 132:13
For Yahweh has chosen Zion.
He has desired it for his habitation.

Ps 133:3
like the dew of Hermon,
that comes down on the hills of Zion:
for there Yahweh gives the blessing,
even life forevermore.

Ps 134:3
May Yahweh bless you from Zion;
even he who made heaven and earth.

Ps 135:21
Blessed be Yahweh from Zion,
Who dwells at Jerusalem.
Praise Yah!

Ps 137:1,3
1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down.
Yes, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
3 For there, those who led us captive asked us for songs.
Those who tormented us demanded songs of joy:
“Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”

Ps 146:10
Yahweh will reign forever;
your God, O Zion, to all generations.
Praise Yah!

Ps 147:12
Praise Yahweh, Jerusalem!
Praise your God, Zion!

Ps 149:2
Let Israel rejoice in him who made them.
Let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

SS 3:11
Go forth, you daughters of Zion, and see king Solomon,
with the crown with which his mother has crowned him,
in the day of his weddings,
in the day of the gladness of his heart.

Is 1:8,27
8 The daughter of Zion is left like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a field of melons,
like a besieged city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with justice,
and her converts with righteousness.

Is 2:3
Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

Is 3:16,17
16 Moreover Yahweh said, “Because the daughters of Zion are haughty,
and walk with outstretched necks and flirting eyes,
walking to trip as they go,
jingling ornaments on their feet;
17 therefore the Lord brings sores on the crown of the head of the women of Zion,
and Yahweh will make their scalps bald.”

Is 4:3-5
3 It will happen, that he who is left in Zion, and he who remains in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even everyone who is written among the living in Jerusalem;
4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from its midst, by the spirit of justice, and by the spirit of burning.
5 Yahweh will create over the whole habitation of Mount Zion, and over her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night; for over all the glory will be a canopy.

Is 8:18
Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Armies, who dwells in Mount Zion.

Is 10:12,24,32
12 Therefore it will happen that, when the Lord has performed his whole work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the willful proud heart of the king of Assyria, and the insolence of his haughty looks.
24 Therefore the Lord, Yahweh of Armies, says “My people who dwell in Zion, don’t be afraid of the Assyrian, though he strike you with the rod, and lift up his staff against you, as Egypt did.
32 This very day he will halt at Nob. He shakes his hand at the mountain of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.

Is 12:6
Cry aloud and shout, you inhabitant of Zion; for the Holy One of Israel is great in the midst of you!”

Is 14:32
What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That Yahweh has founded Zion, and in her the afflicted of his people will take refuge.

Is 16:1
Send the lambs for the ruler of the land from Selah to the wilderness, to the mountain of the daughter of Zion.

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 24:23
Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed; for Yahweh of Armies will reign on Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem; and before his elders will be glory.

Is 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh, “Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious cornerstone of a sure foundation. He who believes shall not act hastily.

Is 29:8
It will be like when a hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats; but he awakes, and his hunger isn’t satisfied; or like when a thirsty man dreams, and behold, he drinks; but he awakes, and behold, he is faint, and he is still thirsty. The multitude of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion will be like that.

Is 30:19
For the people will dwell in Zion at Jerusalem. You will weep no more. He will surely be gracious to you at the voice of your cry. When he hears you, he will answer you.

Is 31:4,9
4 For thus says Yahweh to me,
“As the lion and the young lion growling over his prey,
if a multitude of shepherds is called together against him,
will not be dismayed at their voice,
nor abase himself for the noise of them,
so Yahweh of Armies will come down to fight on Mount Zion and on its heights.
9 His rock will pass away by reason of terror,
and his princes will be afraid of the banner,”
says Yahweh, whose fire is in Zion,
and his furnace in Jerusalem.

Is 33:5,14,20
5 Yahweh is exalted, for he dwells on high.
He has filled Zion with justice and righteousness.
14 The sinners in Zion are afraid.
Trembling has seized the godless ones.
Who among us can live with the devouring fire?
Who among us can live with everlasting burning?
20 Look at Zion, the city of our appointed festivals.
Your eyes will see Jerusalem, a quiet habitation,
a tent that won’t be removed.
Its stakes will never be plucked up,
nor will any of its cords be broken.

Is 34:8
For Yahweh has a day of vengeance,
a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Is 35:10
The Yahweh’s ransomed ones will return,
and come with singing to Zion;
and everlasting joy will be on their heads.
They will obtain gladness and joy,
and sorrow and sighing will flee away.”

Is 37:22,32
22 this is the word which Yahweh has spoken concerning him. The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you and ridiculed you. The daughter of Jerusalem has shaken her head at you.
32 For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and survivors will escape from Mount Zion. The zeal of Yahweh of Armies will perform this.’

Is 40:9
You who tell good news to Zion, go up on a high mountain.
You who tell good news to Jerusalem, lift up your voice with strength.
Lift it up. Don’t be afraid.
Say to the cities of Judah, “Behold, your God!”

Is 41:27
I am the first to say to Zion, ‘Behold, look at them;’
and I will give one who brings good news to Jerusalem.

Is 46:13
I bring near my righteousness, it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not wait; and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.

Is 49:14
But Zion said, Yahweh has forsaken me, and the Lord has forgotten me.

Is 51:3,11,16
3 For Yahweh has comforted Zion; he has comforted all her waste places, and has made her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of Yahweh; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
11 The ransomed of Yahweh shall return, and come with singing to Zion; and everlasting joy shall be on their heads: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
16 I have put my words in your mouth, and have covered you in the shadow of my hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and tell Zion, You are my people.

Is 52:1,2,7,8
1 Awake, awake, put on your strength, Zion; put on your beautiful garments, Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into you the uncircumcised and the unclean.
2 Shake yourself from the dust; arise, sit on your throne, Jerusalem: loose yourself from the bonds of your neck, captive daughter of Zion.
7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of good, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, Your God reigns!
8 The voice of your watchmen! they lift up the voice, together do they sing; for they shall see eye to eye, when Yahweh returns to Zion.

Is 59:20
A Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from disobedience in Jacob, says Yahweh.

Is 60:14
The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 61:3
to appoint to those who mourn in Zion, to give to them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Yahweh, that he may be glorified.

Is 62:1,11
1 For Zion’s sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest, until her righteousness go forth as brightness, and her salvation as a lamp that burns.
11 Behold, Yahweh has proclaimed to the end of the earth, Say you to the daughter of Zion, Behold, your salvation comes; behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him.

Is 64:10
Your holy cities are become a wilderness, Zion is become a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

Is 66:8
Who has heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? shall a nation be brought forth at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Jr 3:14
Return, backsliding children, says Yahweh; for I am a husband to you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Jr 4:6,31
6 Set up a standard toward Zion: flee for safety, don’t stay; for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, the anguish as of her who brings forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, who gasps for breath, who spreads her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul faints before the murderers.

Jr 6:2,23
2 The comely and delicate one, the daughter of Zion, will I cut off.
23 They lay hold on bow and spear; they are cruel, and have no mercy; their voice roars like the sea, and they ride on horses, everyone set in array, as a man to the battle, against you, daughter of Zion.

Jr 8:19
Behold, the voice of the cry of the daughter of my people from a land that is very far off: isn’t Yahweh in Zion? Isn’t her King in her? Why have they provoked me to anger with their engraved images, and with foreign vanities?

Jr 9:19
For a voice of wailing is heard out of Zion, How are we ruined! we are greatly confounded, because we have forsaken the land, because they have cast down our dwellings.

Jr 14:19
Have you utterly rejected Judah? has your soul loathed Zion? why have you struck us, and there is no healing for us? We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of healing, and behold, dismay!

Jr 26:18
Micah the Morashtite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah; and he spoke to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus says Yahweh of Armies: Zion shall be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of a forest.

Jr 30:17
For I will restore health to you, and I will heal you of your wounds, says Yahweh; because they have called you an outcast, saying, It is Zion, whom no man seeks after.

Jr 31:6,12
6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen on the hills of Ephraim shall cry, Arise you, and let us go up to Zion to Yahweh our God.
12 They shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow to the goodness of Yahweh, to the grain, and to the new wine, and to the oil, and to the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

Jr 50:5,28
5 They shall inquire concerning Zion with their faces turned toward it, saying, Come you, and join yourselves to Yahweh in an everlasting covenant that shall not be forgotten.
28 The voice of those who flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of Yahweh our God, the vengeance of his temple.

Jr 51:10,24,35
10 Yahweh has brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of Yahweh our God.
24 I will render to Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, says Yahweh.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be on Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and, My blood be on the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.

Lm 1:4,6,17
4 The ways of Zion do mourn, because none come to the solemn assembly;
all her gates are desolate, her priests do sigh:
her virgins are afflicted, and she herself is in bitterness.
6 From the daughter of Zion all her majesty is departed:
her princes are become like harts that find no pasture,
they are gone without strength before the pursuer.
17 Zion spreads forth her hands; there is none to comfort her;
Yahweh has commanded concerning Jacob, that those who are around him should be his adversaries:
Jerusalem is among them as an unclean thing.

Lm 2:1,4,6,8,10,13,18
1 How has the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger!
He has cast down from heaven to the earth the beauty of Israel,
And hasn’t remembered his footstool in the day of his anger.
4 He has bent his bow like an enemy, he has stood with his right hand as an adversary,
Has killed all that were pleasant to the eye:
In the tent of the daughter of Zion he has poured out his wrath like fire.
6 He has violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden; he has destroyed his place of assembly:
Yahweh has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion,
Has despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
8 Yahweh has purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion;
He has stretched out the line, he has not withdrawn his hand from destroying;
He has made the rampart and wall to lament; they languish together.
10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit on the ground, they keep silence;
They have cast up dust on their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth:
The virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
13 What shall I testify to you? what shall I liken to you, daughter of Jerusalem?
What shall I compare to you, that I may comfort you, virgin daughter of Zion?
For your breach is great like the sea: who can heal you?
18 Their heart cried to the Lord:
wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night;
Give yourself no respite; don’t let the apple of your eye cease.

Lm 4:2,11,22
2 The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold,
How are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!
11 Yahweh has accomplished his wrath, he has poured out his fierce anger;
He has kindled a fire in Zion, which has devoured its foundations.
22 The punishment of your iniquity is accomplished, daughter of Zion; he will no more carry you away into captivity:
He will visit your iniquity, daughter of Edom; he will uncover your sins.

Lm 5:11,18
11 They ravished the women in Zion,
The virgins in the cities of Judah.
18 For the mountain of Zion, which is desolate:
The foxes walk on it.

Jl 2:1,15,23,32
1 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of Yahweh comes,
for it is close at hand:
15 Blow the trumpet in Zion!
Sanctify a fast.
Call a solemn assembly.
23 “Be glad then, you children of Zion,
and rejoice in Yahweh, your God;
for he gives you the former rain in just measure,
and he causes the rain to come down for you,
the former rain and the latter rain,
as before.
32 It will happen that whoever will call on the name of Yahweh shall be saved;
for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape,
as Yahweh has said,
and among the remnant, those whom Yahweh calls.

Jl 3:16,17,21
16 Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and thunder from Jerusalem;
and the heavens and the earth will shake;
but Yahweh will be a refuge to his people,
and a stronghold to the children of Israel.
17 “So you will know that I am Yahweh, your God,
dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem will be holy,
and no strangers will pass through her any more.
21 I will cleanse their blood,
that I have not cleansed:
for Yahweh dwells in Zion.”

Am 1:2
He said:
“Yahweh will roar from Zion,
and utter his voice from Jerusalem;
and the pastures of the shepherds will mourn,
and the top of Carmel will wither.”

Am 6:1
Woe to those who are at ease in Zion,
and to those who are secure on the mountain of Samaria,
the notable men of the chief of the nations,
to whom the house of Israel come!

Ob 1:17,21
17 But in Mount Zion, there will be those who escape, and it will be holy. The house of Jacob will possess their possessions.
21 Saviors will go up on Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau, and the kingdom will be Yahweh’s.

Mc 1:13
Harness the chariot to the swift steed, inhabitant of Lachish.
She was the beginning of sin to the daughter of Zion;
For the transgressions of Israel were found in you.

Mc 3:10,12
10 They build up Zion with blood,
and Jerusalem with iniquity.
12 Therefore Zion for your sake will be plowed like a field,
and Jerusalem will become heaps of rubble,
and the mountain of the temple like the high places of a forest.

Mc 4:2,7,8,10,11,13
2 Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion will go forth the law,
and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem;
7 and I will make that which was lame a remnant,
and that which was cast far off a strong nation:
and Yahweh will reign over them on Mount Zion from then on, even forever.”
8 You, tower of the flock, the hill of the daughter of Zion,
to you it will come,
yes, the former dominion will come,
the kingdom of the daughter of Jerusalem.
10 Be in pain, and labor to bring forth, daughter of Zion,
like a woman in travail;
for now you will go forth out of the city,
and will dwell in the field,
and will come even to Babylon.
There you will be rescued.
There Yahweh will redeem you from the hand of your enemies.
11 Now many nations have assembled against you, that say,
“Let her be defiled,
and let our eye gloat over Zion.”
13 Arise and thresh, daughter of Zion;
for I will make your horn iron,
and I will make your hoofs brass;
and you will beat in pieces many peoples:
and I will devote their gain to Yahweh,
and their substance to the Lord of the whole earth.

Zp 3:14,16
14 Sing, daughter of Zion! Shout, Israel! Be glad and rejoice with all your heart, daughter of Jerusalem.
16 In that day, it will be said to Jerusalem, “Don’t be afraid, Zion. Don’t let your hands be slack.”

Zc 1:14,17
14 So the angel who talked with me said to me, “Proclaim, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
17 “Proclaim further, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “My cities will again overflow with prosperity, and Yahweh will again comfort Zion, and will again choose Jerusalem.”’”

Zc 2:7,10
7 ‘Come, Zion! Escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.’
10 Sing and rejoice, daughter of Zion; for, behold, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of you,’ says Yahweh.

Zc 8:2,3
2 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “I am jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I am jealous for her with great wrath.”
3 Thus says Yahweh: “I have returned to Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be called ‘The City of Truth;’ and the mountain of Yahweh of Armies, ‘The Holy Mountain.’”

Zc 9:9,13
9 Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion!
Shout, daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king comes to you!
He is righteous, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding on a donkey,
even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
13 For indeed I bend Judah as a bow for me.
I have filled the bow with Ephraim;
and I will stir up your sons, Zion,
against your sons, Greece,
and will make you like the sword of a mighty man.



Jerusalem:

The nations will come to Jerusalem



Is 2:2,3
2 It shall happen in the latter days, that the mountain of Yahweh’s house shall be established on the top of the mountains,
and shall be raised above the hills;
and all nations shall flow to it.
3 Many peoples shall go and say,
“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”

Is 18:7
In that time, a present will be brought to Yahweh of Armies from a people tall and smooth, even from a people awesome from their beginning onward, a nation that measures out and treads down, whose land the rivers divide, to the place of the name of Yahweh of Armies, Mount Zion.

Is 60:3,5,10,11,14
3 Nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising.
5 Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall thrill and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you, the wealth of the nations shall come to you.
10 Foreigners shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister to you: for in my wrath I struck you, but in my favor have I had mercy on you.
11 Your gates also shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, and their kings led captive.
14 The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending to you; and all those who despised you shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you The city of Yahweh, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Is 66:12,18
12 For thus says Yahweh, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the nations like an overflowing stream: and you shall suck of it; you shall be borne on the side, and shall be dandled on the knees.
18 For I know their works and their thoughts: the time comes, that I will gather all nations and languages; and they shall come, and shall see my glory.

Jr 3:17
At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of Yahweh; and all the nations shall be gathered to it, to the name of Yahweh, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the stubbornness of their evil heart.

Mc 4:2
Many nations will go and say,
“Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh,
and to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways,
and we will walk in his paths.”

Zc 8:22,23
22 Yes, many peoples and strong nations will come to seek Yahweh of Armies in Jerusalem, and to entreat the favor of Yahweh.”
23 Thus says Yahweh of Armies: “In those days, ten men will take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, they will take hold of the skirt of him who is a Jew, saying, ‘We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’”

Zc 14:16-19
16 It will happen that everyone who is left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of Armies, and to keep the feast of tents.
17 It will be, that whoever of all the families of the earth doesn’t go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of Armies, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt doesn’t go up, and doesn’t come, neither will it rain on them. This will be the plague with which Yahweh will strike the nations that don’t go up to keep the feast of tents.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations that don’t go up to keep the feast of tents.
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Post  mugglez on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:56 am

'tru lilly/suzi child porn'....do you think it's a good idea to spam other peoples threads? Just askin' thumbs up wave

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Here's your problem, quite common amongst New age Neo Pagan Neo Nazis................. thumbs up

Narcissistic Personality Disorder
By Psych Central Staff


http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm


Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody's life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter's "rudeness" or "stupidity" or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a "narcissist" or as someone with "narcissism." Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

•Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
•Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
•Requires excessive admiration
•Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
•Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
•Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
•Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
•Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


Specifically:

Characteristics of Narcissistic Women

http://www.livestrong.com/article/72413-characteristics-narcissistic-women/


Women who are narcissistic think about themselves before others and act as if the world revolves around them. Women who have narcissistic personality disorder also always put themselves first; however, the personality disorder affects their lives occupationally and socially. Other people are turned off by women with narcissistic personality disorder due to their lack of empathy, inability to relate to others, sense of grandiosity and arrogant behaviors and attitude.

Self-Centered
Many people prioritize themselves and sometimes act self-centered. Women who are narcissistic almost always act self-centered and have a hard time understanding why they can't maintain long-term relationships with girlfriends or maintain romantic relationships. They will blame relationship problems on others instead of taking any responsibility. For instance, if a woman who has a narcissistic personality disorder gets married and has children, she'll put her wishes and needs above those of her husband and children. She might spend money to buy herself designer clothes while her husband shops at consignment stores. She may get her nails and hair done instead of taking her daughter to ballet lessons.

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Women who are narcissistic need all eyes to be on them and they will do almost anything to make sure the attention is on them. A woman who's narcissistic will interrupt people in the middle of a conversation to turn the subject to herself. She might make her stories seem more dramatic. For instance, she might tell a group of people that her sister is in the hospital due to an almost fatal accident to gain sympathy, when her sister really went to the hospital for a broken arm.

A narcissistic woman might dress provocatively to get the attention of men and talk herself up when meeting a potential date. She might tell him that she runs her entire company or donates her extra time on the weekend to charity when she really doesn't. As long as she's getting undivided attention, she's happy.

Lack of Empathy
Lack of empathy leads to many social problems. When women can't relate to others, it impacts their ability to have meaningful relationships and can also cause problems in the workplace. For instance, a woman with a narcissistic personality disorder has a hard time reading social cues and responding to them. She might be flippant with someone who is sad or antagonize someone who is already angry.

Criticism
A woman who is narcissistic does not respond well to criticism, even if the criticism is thoughtful and constructive, but she's quick to criticize others. This can significantly impact her occupationally. A woman with this issue probably becomes angry and possible defiant when criticized by peers, supervisors, family and friends. She may respond with anger even though she feels deep embarrassment or shame.



Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/72413-characteristics-narcissistic-women/#ixzz1jGfeY1pv

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The Chosen People:

Israel is God's Inheritance



Ex 34:9
He said, “If now I have found favor in your sight, Lord, please let the Lord go in the midst of us; although this is a stiff-necked people; pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for your inheritance.”

Dt 4:20
But Yahweh has taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, out of Egypt, to be to him a people of inheritance, as at this day.

Dt 9:26,29
26 I prayed to Yahweh, and said, Lord Yahweh, don’t destroy your people and your inheritance, that you have redeemed through your greatness, that you have brought forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand.
29 Yet they are your people and your inheritance, which you brought out by your great power and by your outstretched arm.

1Sm 10:1
Then Samuel took the vial of oil, and poured it on his head, and kissed him, and said, Isn’t it that Yahweh has anointed you to be prince over his inheritance?

1Sm 26:19
Now therefore, please let my lord the king hear the words of his servant. If it be Yahweh that has stirred you up against me, let him accept an offering: but if it be the children of men, cursed be they before Yahweh: for they have driven me out this day that I shouldn’t cling to Yahweh’s inheritance, saying, Go, serve other gods.

2Sm 14:16
For the king will hear, to deliver his servant out of the hand of the man who would destroy me and my son together out of the inheritance of God.

2Sm 20:19
I am of those who are peaceable and faithful in Israel: you seek to destroy a city and a mother in Israel: why will you swallow up the inheritance of Yahweh?

2Sm 21:3
and David said to the Gibeonites, What shall I do for you? And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of Yahweh?

1Kg 8:51,53
51 (for they are your people, and your inheritance, which you brought forth out of Egypt, from the midst of the furnace of iron);
53 For you did separate them from among all the peoples of the earth, to be your inheritance, as you spoke by Moses your servant, when you brought our fathers out of Egypt, Lord Yahweh.

2Kg 21:14
I will cast off the remnant of my inheritance, and deliver them into the hand of their enemies; and they shall become a prey and a spoil to all their enemies;

Ps 28:9
Save your people,
and bless your inheritance.
Be their shepherd also,
and bear them up forever.

Ps 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is Yahweh,
the people whom he has chosen for his own inheritance.

Ps 68:9
You, God, sent a plentiful rain.
You confirmed your inheritance, when it was weary.

Ps 74:2
Remember your congregation, which you purchased of old,
which you have redeemed to be the tribe of your inheritance;
Mount Zion, in which you have lived.

Ps 78:62,71
62 He also gave his people over to the sword,
and was angry with his inheritance.
71 from following the ewes that have their young,
he brought him to be the shepherd of Jacob, his people,
and Israel, his inheritance.

Ps 94:5,14
5 They break your people in pieces, Yahweh,
and afflict your heritage.
14 For Yahweh won’t reject his people,
neither will he forsake his inheritance.

Ps 106:5,40
5 that I may see the prosperity of your chosen,
that I may rejoice in the gladness of your nation,
that I may glory with your inheritance.
40Therefore Yahweh burned with anger against his people.
He abhorred his inheritance.

Is 47:6
I was angry with my people, I profaned my inheritance, and gave them into your hand: you did show them no mercy; on the aged have you very heavily laid your yoke.

Jr 2:7
I brought you into a plentiful land, to eat its fruit and its goodness; but when you entered, you defiled my land, and made my heritage an abomination.

Jr 10:16
The portion of Jacob is not like these; for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the tribe of his inheritance: Yahweh of Armies is his name.

Jr 12:7,8,9
7 I have forsaken my house, I have cast off my heritage; I have given the dearly beloved of my soul into the hand of her enemies.
8 My heritage is become to me as a lion in the forest: she has uttered her voice against me; therefore I have hated her.
9 Is my heritage to me as a speckled bird of prey? are the birds of prey against her all around? go you, assemble all the animals of the field, bring them to devour.

Jr 16:18
First I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double, because they have polluted my land with the carcasses of their detestable things, and have filled my inheritance with their abominations.

Jr 50:11
Because you are glad, because you rejoice, O you who plunder my heritage, because you are wanton as a heifer that treads out the grain, and neigh as strong horses;

Jr 51:19
The portion of Jacob is not like these; for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the tribe of his inheritance: Yahweh of Armies is his name.

Jl 2:17
Let the priests, the ministers of Yahweh, weep between the porch and the altar,
and let them say, “Spare your people, Yahweh,
and don’t give your heritage to reproach,
that the nations should rule over them.

Jl 3:2
I will gather all nations,
and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat;
and I will execute judgment on them there for my people,
and for my heritage, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations.
They have divided my land,

Mc 7:14,18
14 Shepherd your people with your staff,
the flock of your heritage,
who dwell by themselves in a forest,
in the midst of fertile pasture land, let them feed;
in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.
18 Who is a God like you, who pardons iniquity,
and passes over the disobedience of the remnant of his heritage?
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Post  Billy Ruben on Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:17 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Besides commending those Hooligans for defacing the Arch...I noticed Miss Newsbot,that you dilligently avoided the sexual scandals in our serving Navy and Army personelle.

Yes,we all know you treat women as second rate,just like my mother in law did,denied her own femininity and her tit rotted and dropped off as a sign to change her attitude to loving herself.Did'nt work of course,she grew a beard.

But just letting you know,as an ex-serving reservist,the stories in the papers are true and actually down played,as it is a disgusting mind-set that our military personelle enact on each other.

AND THEREFORE ARE TRAITORS TO MY COUNTRY AND WAY OF LIFE...SUCK MY LEFT TESTICLE WHILE YOU'RE ABOUT IT,CHUMP DOWN ON THIS AND EAT SHIT.


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10778347

Sex abuse still rife in armed services
By Greg Ansley 5:30 AM Friday Jan 13, 2012 Email
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Expand Australian Defence Minister Stephen Smith said sexual abuse would not be tolerated in the Defence Force. Photo / NZPAAlarming revelations in confidential military reports reveal that the Australian Defence Force is struggling to reduce levels of sexual abuse, bullying and other problems among its troops.

Despite a massive bid to shift the force's culture and seven reports probing almost every aspect of service life after a series of scandals, documents obtained by Channel Seven under freedom of information laws show little appears to have changed.

Most of the incidents were reported after the outrage of last year's Skype scandal, in which a cadet at the elite Australian Defence Force Academy filmed his seduction of a female colleague and broadcast it live to other cadets.

The incidents included in dozens of "hot issues briefs" obtained by Channel Seven ranged from rape and attempted murder to possession of child pornography, sexual assault, the concubinage of teenagers on base and further explicit videotaping.

The greatest number of complaints involved the navy, whose problems peaked with revelations of life on board the supply ship HMAS Success during an Asian deployment in 2009.

Subject to a separate report and pending action, these included inappropriate conduct towards women, workforce bullying, a "tribal culture" on board the ship, drunken and disreputable behaviour ashore, a breakdown in discipline and serious failures of command.

Even after the subsequent outcry, problems continued on board the Success.

The Channel Seven documents said one of its officers had been accused of inappropriate relationships with junior sailors and of filming them in the shower.

Videos of sexual acts with other sailors were also discovered, butdespite a record of similar behaviour the officer was transferred to another ship.

The documents also said that just four days after the first report into the original Success allegations, a sailor on the ship - now facing court martial - allegedly indecently assaulted two others in their cabin.

More serious was the charging of a sailor from the minehunter HMAS Yarra with aggravated sexual assault and strangulation with intent to murder.

In the army, a soldier was charged with rape, deprivation of liberty and assault involving a female civilian, another at the School of Artillery was found in possession of child pornography, and yet another was accused of housing two teenagers, aged 15 and 17, for two weeks in Sydney's Holsworthy barracks.

An air force member was charged with indecently assaulting a minor.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith said yesterday that such behaviour would not be tolerated.

"It is essential that the Defence Force promotes and enforces the highest standards of behaviour in line with modern community expectations and creates an environment where complaints can be aired and appropriately addressed," he said.

Smith already has a welter of disturbing reports to consider, continuing long lists of recommendations from the five inquiries established after the Skype scandal.

Most will be released this month, with the Government's response.
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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:07 am

http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1684-the-evils-of-spamming

Billy Ruben wrote:There is a need for a moderator at times,when one becomes the victim of spamming.It's a very traumatic phase one encounters in online life.It's kind of like,being shafted in the chutney chute,when you don't want it.It hurts.I feel violated.And because I became a victim,I tried to spam back,didn't work,left me feeling dirty and I sook and cry in the shower,washing anothers unwanted advances and love from me.There appears at the moment,no support groups for these victims of crimes.There will be one day,as this new psychological
handicap captures other compulsives into it's evil embrace, causing many more victims of this heinous crime.










Billy Ruben wrote:
I think moderation is essential.
This new compulsive disorder,speaking and communicating in spam,has a detrimental effect on those already afflicted with other psychological disorders.You see,I'm not really a schizophrenic,but a mis-diagnosed psychopath.Well,I had to lie,so I didn't get a permanent padded cell.

You don't know what it's like being a reluctant psychopath.Everyday.I raise from bed,I have to repress feelings of skinning people alive,using sulphuric acid (original touch there I must say).I try to look at birds,the trees and the sun shining,butterflies land on my shoulder and let me know,"You're sweet Billy,we know you don't mean any harm".Little children walk by,waving their hands and giving me smiles.

A silent tear,tracks from my eys,down my cheek and I sigh,hoping there is a future for mankind after all.

Then I log on,to share my glowing heart....and how am I received ?
SPAMMED BACK OUT THE FUCKING DOOR AND I JUST WANT TO FUCKING KILL,I STOMP ON BEATLES AND BLOW TORCH INSECTS AND GO RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING RICHTER SCALE....SPAM,I FUCKING HATE
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:


she would be an assett.

Billy Ruben wrote:,unbiased world wide women here,named Tiswas.

She's spiritual,understanding,gives good debates and I believe,quite unbiased in all matters concerning Icke.Offers the olive branch to those who foolishly,troll and attempt to sway her to the dark side.

This rare lady of light,with all her wisdom and knowledge,would be a great assett to the forums administration and I believe she is the answer to cleaning up the spam wars we have here,for which I trully,hand on heart apologise for my own involvement.

Put the lotion in the basket,Suzy.



That's who Billy Ruben was named after,Buffalo Bill.It's quite funny,when you know,the satanist old skateboard shop,became a leather boutique in Maitland there.Yeeessss,the satanist still own it...didn't know that one did you?
Spooky,when I'm pissed off.




But you can't blame them for everything,here's a video I made from cutting room floor scenes...enjoy



Billy Ruben wrote:It's Ok Suzy,you stand for nothing.In your little temper tantrum last night,either being warned by admin,or,which I doubt,my message to you sunk in,that without spam you have nothing to say,the best revelation of all I caught you out,denying Gods word.I had it framed on my wall after a print-out,so pleased was I to figure you out.You can spam your stupid cat pics once on this thread,you've done that now,anymore,my post count will go up by 150...150 times I will spam,even if I drive myself insane,

But to give you hope,I got a weird cold/flu today.And I just read Sods patient zero thread,so there's still hope for you,in that sick little mind,now start praying,God might answer you with Billys swift demise,it's how you use and hate God you see,only a friend,when he does things for you,bit like the deal you cut with management here...hehehehehe




Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Do you have to chew up a weeks bandwidth in one bloody post?

El Kabong does it so much better,at least his are animated.Get a warning there old girl and didn't like it.

Why don't you learn to forgive and forget like all those bible-quotes you throw around,but can't live up to...Repent Suzy,before it's to late.



dizzy


Still not getting it,the word of God that you espouse for others that you can't live up to.Do you hate and defy God?
Is this really the truth,the bible shoved down your throat as a child and now you use it just to cause the same pain and derision as you really feel?
You're being a hypocrite over God...and never thought I'd see it,the day you renounced your own teachings.How disappointing.
Hmmm,like this.Lisa used to do that too,looks exactly like her too,miss her...Appropiate caption too.


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Post  true lilly on Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:44 pm

Yes, it is about time, and trying to keep secret,
the actual time-spans and time-lines, God told us of.

But God also Promised to reveal what's been hidden,
and warned that the foolish would be blind and deaf to it,
while even the 'least' of those the worldly look down on,
who don't deny God's Spirit, would understand, what
even the 'greatest' of those the worldly look up to, don't.



Over 400 LAKES...
well if that isn't, or rather, wasn't,
prime forestry country,
I'll go hee...funny to,
that the remains of trees already long ago found there,
are the same as unique, native Australian trees...and,
ridiculous, that 'they' believe slandering me, will somehow,
prevent what God Promised to Reveal, from being revealed,
when I simply report on, what those doing the science and
discoveries, discover...with the links to the sources, as well
as the links to what God told us to watch for, that come to be.


Frozen wastes: Lake Ellsworth, where the
drilling is being carried out, is in the West of Antarctica. There are
more than 400 subglacial lakes across Antarctica


Truly ANCIENT LEBANON, and what became of it:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lebanon&t=KJV&sf=5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?criteria=lebanon&page=3&sf=5&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?criteria=lebanon&page=2&sf=5&t=KJV
Isaiah 60:13
(NWTotHS)
“To you the very glory of Leb´a·non will come,
the juniper tree, the ash tree and the cypress at the same time,
in order to beautify the place of my sanctuary;
and I shall glorify the very place of my feet.)

(KJV)
The glory 3519 of Lebanon 3844 shall come 935 unto thee,
the fir tree 1265, the pine tree 8410, and the box 8391 together 3162,
to beautify 6286 the place 4725 of my sanctuary 4720;
and I will make the place 4725 of my feet 7272 glorious 3513.


Aboriginal Stonehenge: Stargazing in ancient Australia


British explorers prepare to drill into
lost Antarctic world buried for a million years
almost two miles beneath the ice


  • Team faced -35C temperatures as they moved 70 tonnes of equipment to drilling site through mountain range
  • Samples from 1.8 miles under the ice are expected to reveal more about the Earth's past climate
  • Drilling operation will be carried out in November
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British explorers are preparing to drill through
almost two miles of ice into an Antarctic lake as they
seek clues about life one million years ago.


The team used a 'tractor train' to tow nearly 70 tonnes of equipment to the
Lake Ellsworth drilling site which is one of the most hostile environments on earth
as they prepare for the operation.

They will return in November to collect water and sediment from the buried lake
using space industry standard 'clean technology'.



British team: The UK flag flies at lake Ellsworth where the drilling will take place
later this year. 70 tonnes of equipment has since been moved into place ready for
the operation



They hope the samples will provide clues about the Earth's past climate.

It could also help scientists assess the present-day stability of the West
Antarctic Ice Sheet and implications for future rises in the sea level.


More...
The advance party, comprising four British engineers, braved temperatures of -35C
as they transported the drilling equipment.


They used powerful tractors to tow heavy containers of equipment on sledges
and skis across deep snow and through steep mountain passes.



Explorers: The team of four who are braving freezing conditions to work at the Lake Ellsworth site


Final frontier: The British team will live in tents at the site as they collect samples from 1.8miles below the ice

The 155-mile journey through the Ellsworth Mountain Range took them three days to complete.

Scientists have been planning the investigation for more than 15 years.

The Lake Ellsworth Programme Principal Investigator, Professor Martin
Siegert from the University of Edinburgh, said: 'The completion of this
stage of the mission is a welcome one - we are now one step closer to
finding out if new and unique forms of microbial life could have evolved
in this environment.


'The samples we hope to capture from Lake Ellsworth
will be hugely valuable to the scientific community.

'This year we will complete and test both the water sampling probe and the sediment corer.



Frozen wastes: Lake Ellsworth, where the drilling is being carried out,
is in the West of Antarctica. There are more than 400 subglacial lakes across Antarctica

'Extracted sediment samples could give us
an important insight in to the ancient history
of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, including past collapse,
which would have implications

(Truly ANCIENT LEBANON, and what became of it:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lebanon&t=KJV&sf=5
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?criteria=lebanon&page=3&sf=5&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?criteria=lebanon&page=2&sf=5&t=KJV )
for future
sea level rise.'


During phase two of the project researchers will use a high-pressure drill
to create a borehole through 1.8miles of ice.

They will then lower a titanium probe to measure and sample the water,
followed by a corer to extract sediment from the lake.


It will take around three days to drill through the ice and the scientists
will have about 24 hours to gather samples before the hole starts to freeze over.



Plan: This graph shows how the team will create a 1.8mile borehole
to the bottom of the lake over three days before lowering a corer to extract sediment

The equipment has been left one mile from the actual drilling site so that
the location remains unaffected by the equipment's presence.


Lake Ellsworth
is around 8.6 miles long, 1.2-1.8 miles wide and 150m deep,
around the size of Loch Katrine in the Trossachs, or Lake Windermere in the
Lake District.


Chris Hill, Advance Party Member and Lake Ellsworth Programme Manager said:
'This is a major milestone for the programme and we are delighted that
our complex logistical operations were a success this season.


'Working within the short Antarctic summer season adds pressure to our time on
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The Lake Ellsworth programme is a consortium, funded by the Natural
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More than 400 subglacial lakes
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A Russian team hopes soon to penetrate and collect samples
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Post  MoMo on Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:53 pm

true lilly wrote:Yes, it is about time, and trying to keep secret,
the actual time-spans and time-lines, God told us of.

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Historical Timeline

http://www.biblicalzionist.com/odds_&_ends.html

Note: These earliest dates (B.C.) are not without differences of opinion. They are offered as a general guideline, there being somewhat of an agreement as to their general accuracy. Investigation into the timeline is still ongoing.



Israel's beginnings:

2035 B.C. - Abraham born.

1960 B.C. - Abraham leaves Haran for Canaan.

1935 B.C. - Isaac born.

1875 B.C. - Jacob born.

1767 B.C. - Joseph sold to Egyptians.

1745 B.C. - Jacob and family move to Egypt.

Egyptian bondage and the Exodus under Moses:

1610 B.C. - Moses born.

1530 B.C. - The Exodus from Egypt. Israel crosses the Red Sea.
- The Law is given to Moses on Mount Sinai.

Israel given The Promised Land:

1490 B.C. - The Hebrews enter Canaan.

980 B.C. - David becomes King of Israel.

930 B.C. - The first Temple completed in Jerusalem.

900 B.C. - The nation is divided into the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah.

Assyrian & Babylonian captivities and the Return:

722 B.C. - Israel (Northern Kingdom) conquered by Assyria.

586 B.C. - Judah (Southern Kingdom) conquered by Babylon. Jerusalem destroyed, including the first Temple (on the 9th of Av), and the Jews exiled to Babylon.

538 B.C. - The exiles return to Jerusalem from Babylon.

516 B.C. - The second Temple dedicated.

445-444 B.C. - Nehemiah rebuilds The walls of Jerusalem.

350 B.C. - Persians capture Jerusalem.

332 B.C. - Jerusalem conquered by Alexander the Great. Hellenistic rule in the area begins.

170 B.C. - The King of Syria, Antiochus Epiphanes, plunders Jerusalem.

168 B.C. - Antiochus Epiphanes ransacks Jerusalem and prohibits the practice of Judaism, triggering the Maccabean revolt.

165 B.C. - Hasmonean Jews, led by the Maccabees, recapture Jerusalem and rededicate the Temple, now celebrated annually at Hanukah.

80 B.C. - The Maccabees defeated by the Romans.

63 B.C. - Jerusalem conquered by Pompey, who makes Jerusalem a Roman province.

37 B.C. - Herod appointed King in Jerusalem by Rome.

20 B.C. - Herod begins restoration of the 2nd Temple.

4 B.C. - The birth of Jesus.

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30 A.D. Jesus crucified.

66-73 - The Jewish revolt against the Romans.

66 - Jewish Zealots capture Masada from the Romans.

Worldwide Dispersion/Diaspora:

70 - Jerusalem destroyed, including the second Temple (on the 9th of Av), by the Romans who begin expelling the Jews from The Land.

73 - Masada, the last stronghold of the Jewish rebellion, falls to the Romans.

132-135 - The Bar-Kokhba uprising against Rome temporarily wins Jerusalem back.

135 - The Bar Kokhba revolt is defeated by the Romans (on the 9th of Av), who kill over 580,000 Jews.
- Jerusalem is rebuilt and renamed Aelia Capitolina, from which all Jews are banned.
- Judea is renamed Syria Palestina (Palestine), from which all Jews are banned.

136 - The Temple area in Jerusalem was plowed under by the Romans on the 9th of Av.

306 - The Spanish Synod of Elvira forbids Christians to eat with Jews or to intermarry with them.

324 - Jerusalem under Byzantine rule.

326 - Queen Helena, the mother of Byzantine Emperor Constantine, visits Jerusalem and starts building churches, including The Church of The Holy Sepulchre.

362 - Julian the Apostate allows Jews to return to Jerusalem.

395 - The Roman Empire is partitioned into Eastern and Western divisions. Palestine comes under the Eastern division.

570 - Birth of Mohammed.

614 - Jerusalem conquered by Persians.

624 - Mohammed executes all Jewish males in Medina, levies a tax on all Jews in Khybar, and changes the prayer direction of his followers from Jerusalem to Mecca.

627 - Mohammed executes all Jewish men in Qurayzah and sells their women and children as slaves.

629 - Jerusalem is retaken by the Byzantines. Jews are banned from Jerusalem by Bishop Modestos, the Christian Patriarch of Jerusalem.

632 - Death of Mohammed.

633 - Jews are banned from Jerusalem by Bishop Sophronius, the Christian Patriarch of Jerusalem.

636 - Muslim conquest of Jerusalem.

638 - Muslim conquest of Palestine.

650 - The compilation of Mohammed's Koran is completed.

691 - The Dome of the Rock is completed on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

701 - The Al Aqsa Mosque is completed on the Temple Mount.

747 - An earthquake hits Jerusalem, collapsing part of the Dome of the Rock.

771 - Another earthquake hits Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.

813 - Another earthquake hits Jerusalem.

969 - Egyptian Fatimids take control of Jerusalem.

1012 - The Jews are expelled from part of the Rhineland.

1033 - Another earthquake hits Jerusalem.

1066 - Jews enter Britain for the first time.

1077 - Jerusalem captured by the Turks.

1095 - The Crusades declared by Pope Urban II on the 9th of Av.

1096 - The Crusaders massacre Jews in the Rhineland.

1099 - The First Crusade captures Jerusalem. The Jews fight alongside the Arabs, defending Jerusalem from the Crusaders.

1144 - Anti-Jewish riots in England.

1146 - Christians volunteering to fight in the Second Crusade were decreed to be released from all debts owed to Jews.

1168 - A Jewish massacre in England.

1170 - The Third Crusade. Jews were accused of the infamous "Blood Libel" and massacred.

1181 - Another Jewish massacre in England.

1182 - King Phillip of France expelled Jews, confiscated their property, turned synagogues into churches, and forced Jews to wear identification badges.

1187 - The Muslim, Saladin, takes Jerusalem from the Crusaders.

1189 - Jewish massacres throughout England at the coronation of Richard the Lionhearted.

1190 - Another Jewish massacre in England.

1192 - Richard the Lionheart fails to re-conquer Jerusalem.

1212 - 300 English and French Rabbis settle in Jerusalem.

1215 - The Fourth Lateran Council requires Jews to wear distinctive clothing for easy identification, and bars them from holding civil office.

1222 - The Synod of Oxford, England requires Jews to wear an identifying patch.

1229 - Crusaders conquer Jerusalem.

1239 - Muslims re-conquer Jerusalem.

1240 - The Paris Disputation.

1242 - The burning of the Talmud in Paris on the 9th of Av.

1243 - Crusaders re-conquer Jerusalem.

1244 - Jerusalem sacked by Tartars.

1247 - Jerusalem conquered by Egyptian Mamelukes.

1255 - A Massacre of Jews in England.

1259 - Jerusalem sacked by the Mongols.

1264 - Jewish persecution sweeps England.

1276 - The Jews expelled from upper Bavaria.

1278 - Jews arrested throughout England and their property confiscated, 300 hanged.

1288 - Massacre of local Jews in Troyes, France.

1290 - On the 9th of Av, King Edward I signed the edict to expel all Jews from England. 16,000 left, beginning 350 years of Jewish exile from England.

1306 - Phillip the Tall expelled 100,000 Jews from France and confiscated their property.

1322 - The Spanish Synod of Valladolid demands intolerance toward the Jews.

1329 - The Spanish Synod of Tarragona demands intolerance toward the Jews.

1335 - The Synod of Salamanca forbids employment of Jewish doctors.

1347 - Jerusalem conquered by the Mamelukes again.

1348-49 - Anti-Jewish riots in Poland.

1351-1353 - The bubonic plague hits Jerusalem.

1391 - Anti-Jewish riots and massacres in Spain, 50,000 Jews murdered in Castile. The Jews required to wear distinctive clothing for identification.

1394 - The Jews again expelled from France.

1407 - Anti-Jewish riots in Poland.

1421 - The Jews in Vienna had their possessions confiscated, their children forcibly converted. 270 Jews were burned at the stake.

1424 - The Jews expelled from Cologne.

1432 - The Jews expelled from Saxony.

1435 - The Jews expelled from Spires and Zurich.

1438 - The Jews expelled from Mainz.

1439 - The Jews expelled from Augsburg.

1442 - The Jews expelled from Bavaria.

1454 - The Jews expelled from the crown cities of Moravia.

1478 - The Inquisition established to exterminate heretics, including Jews.

1485 - The Jews expelled from Perugia, Italy.

1486 - The Jews expelled from Vicenza, Italy.

1489 - The Jews expelled from Milan and Lucca, Italy.

1490 - The Jews expelled from Geneva, Switzerland. Hebrew Bibles burned by the Inquisition in Spain.

1492 - 300,000 Jews expelled from Spain. Christopher Columbus watched them leaving in ships as he was leaving to discover the New World.

1494 - The Jews expelled from Florence and all Tuscany. Anti-Jewish riots in Poland.

1495 - The Jews expelled from Cracow and Lithuania.

1497 - The Jews expelled from Portugal, Sicily, and Sardinia.

1502 - The Jews expelled from Rhodes

1506 - The Jews again expelled from Portugal.

1516 - The first Jewish ghetto in Venice.

1517 - Jerusalem surrenders to Ottoman Sultan Selim, the beginning of 400 years of Ottoman rule.

1541 - The Jews expelled from Naples. Suleiman the Magnificent completes the walls around Jerusalem.
- Jerusalem's Golden Gate is sealed to prevent The Messiah's entrance.

1543 - Martin Luther writes his 200-page pamphlet, "Against the Jews and Their Lies".

1555 - In Spain, all copies of the Jewish Scriptures in Spanish are seized and burned.
- Pope Paul IV forces all of the Jews in Rome into a ghetto on the left bank of the Tiber River, surrounded by a wall, and locked at night. This was the last ghetto in western Europe to be abolished, in 1848.

1556 - Earthquake in Jerusalem.

1593 - Pope Clement VIII banished Jews from the Vatican State.

1648 - 100,000 Jews massacred in Poland and 700 Jewish communities destroyed in the Ukraine.

1654 - The first Jews come to America.

1670 - The Jews expelled from France again after Blood Libel charges.

1719 - Rhode Island excludes Jews from voting and from holding public office.

1775 - Pope Pius VI issues edict to suppress the Jewish religion.

1791 - Tsarist Russia confines the Jews to the "Pale of Settlement" between the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea.
- Emancipation of the Jews in France.

1798 - Napoleon Bonaparte visits the Holy Land.

1799 - Napoleon Bonaparte encouraged the return of the Jews to their land in Palestine.

1831 - Jerusalem conquered by Mohammed Ali of Egypt.

1838 - British Consulate opened in Jerusalem.

1840 - Jerusalem again under Turkish control.
- In Damascus, anti-Jewish pogroms initiated by the Roman Catholic Franciscans.
- British foreign secretary, Lord Palmerston, strongly recommended to the Ottoman government ruling Palestine that they should encourage the Jews of Europe to return to Palestine.

1844 - First official census confirms a Jewish majority in Jerusalem.

1854 - The Crimean War begins over disputes regarding Jerusalem.

1861 - The Zion Society is formed in Frankfurt, Germany.

1861-1865 - During the American Civil War, Jews of both North and South were accused of aiding the enemy, smuggling, profiteering, and draft-dodging.

1867 - Mark Twain visits Palestine.

1879 - The word "anti-Semitism" was coined by Wilhelm Marr in Germany.

Moving toward the Restoration of the Nation of Israel:

1871-1882 - The first Jewish agricultural settlements in Palestine.

1881-1884 - Russian pogroms kill tens of thousands of Jews, causing hundreds of thousands of Jews to flee.

1881-1924 - 2,500,000 Jews flee persecution in Eastern Europe. Many come to the USA, some migrate to Palestine.

1881-1882 - "Hovevei Zion" (Lovers of Zion) organization established in Russia to encourage Jewish emigration to the Promised Land.

1881 - Eliezer Ben Yehuda, "The Father of Modern Hebrew", moves to Palestine and promotes the Hebrew language.
- "Hibbat Zion", a Jewish Zionist movement established.

1882 - The First Aliya (the Hebrew word for "Ascending"); 12,000 Russian Jewish refugees move to Palestine.
- Leon Pinsker publishes "Autoemancipation", calling for the establishment of a Jewish Nation.
- The first International Anti-Jewish Congress meets in Dresden.

1885 - Nathan Birnbaum coins the term, "Zionism" in a periodical.

1890 - The Hebrew Language Committee is founded by Eliezer Ben Yehuda.

1891 - Over 10,000 Jews expelled from Moscow. 110,000 Jews flee Russia due to persecution.
- The "Blackstone Memorial": a petition presented to President Benjamin Harrison by preacher William E. Blackstone and signed by 413 prominent Americans, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, called for American support for giving "Palestine back to the Jews".

1892 - 137,000 Jews flee Russia due to persecution.

1894-1895 - In Paris, Jewish army captain, Alfred Dreyfus is convicted of treason in a rigged trial, touching off a wave of French anti-Semitism. The trial is covered by a Jewish Austrian journalist, Theodor Herzl, who is moved by it to seek a Zionist solution to anti-Semitism.

1896 - February 14, Austrian journalist Theodor Herzl publishes "The Jewish State", a book proposing a Jewish homeland in Palestine as a solution to European anti-Semitism.

1897 - August 29, The First Zionist Congress opens in Basel, Switzerland, during which Theodor Herzl writes, "Today I founded the Jewish State."
- The World Zionist Organization is founded and Theodor Herzl is elected it's president.

1898 - The Second Zionist Congress, during which the colors of the Jewish prayer shawl, blue stripes on white, are proposed for the Zionist flag.

1899 - The Third Zionist congress, adopts a complete constitution.

1900 - The Fourth Zionist Congress.

1901 - The Fifth Zionist Congress.
- The Jewish National Fund is established to buy land in Palestine.

1903 - The Sixth Zionist Congress.
- The spurious "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" is first published in Russia to justify anti-Semitic actions.

1903-1906 - More anti-Jewish pogroms in Russia.

1904-1914 - The Second Aliya; made up of Jews escaping pogroms in Russia and Poland.

1904 - The death of Theodor Herzl.
- The book "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" produced by Russian Secret Police to imply a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world.

1905 - The Seventh Zionist Congress.
- More than 400 Jews are massacred in 4 days in Odessa, Russia.
- Henry Ford publishes his anti-Jewish beliefs in a series of newspaper articles entitled, "The International Jew".

1907 - The Eighth Zionist Congress.

1908 - The Zionist Organization opens an office in Jaffa.

1909 - Tel Aviv is founded, the first modern Jewish city.
- The first Hebrew High School is formed in Jerusalem.
- The Ninth Zionist Congress.
- The first Kibbutz, Degania, is founded on the shores of Lake Kinnerret (The Sea of Galilee).

1911 - The Tenth Zionist Congress.

1913 - The Eleventh Zionist Congress.

1914 - World War I starts on the 9th of Av.

1915 - The Ku Klux Klan, a white supremacy organization, was reorganized and espoused anti-Semitism.

1917 - The Ottoman Empire collapses, British rule in Palestine begins and General Allenby enters Jerusalem.
- November 2, Britain issues the Balfour Declaration, endorsing a Jewish state in Palestine.

1918 - General Allenby defeats the Turks at Meggido, ending 400 years of Turkish rule in Palestine.
- Adolph Hitler, while in a sanitarium recovering from a mustard gas poisoning, hears voices telling him that the Jews are the source of all evil.

1919-1923 - The Third Aliya; 20,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia and Poland.

1919 - All Jewish religious communities in Russia are dissolved, their property is confiscated, most of their synagogues are closed, and the study of Hebrew is banned.

1920 - Adolph Hitler begins using the terms, "extirpation", "annihilation", and "extermination" concerning the Jews.
- Arab Anti-Jewish massacre and rapes in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem.
- At the San Remo Conference in Italy, the Allied Powers award Britain administration of the Mandate of Palestine on the condition that the Balfour Declaration of 1917 be implemented.

1921 - The Twelfth Zionist Congress.
- Arabs murder and pillage Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa and other towns in Palestine.
- Jewish immigration to Palestine suspended by the British.
- Adolph Hitler becomes president of the National Socialist (Nazi) Party in Germany.

1921 - Britain divides Palestine, creating the nation of TransJordan in the area east of the Jordan River (77% of Palestine).

1922 - June 30, A joint resolution of the United States Congress endorses the concept of the Jewish national home.
- July 24, The League of Nations confirms the Britain Mandate of Palestine, citing the Balfour Declaration of 1917 in it's preamble and includes the responsibility to help "secure the establishment of the Jewish national home" in it's articles.
- American colleges and medical schools limit the number of Jews admitted.

1923 - The Thirteenth Zionist Congress.
- Britain separates the Golan Heights from it's Mandate and gives it to the French Mandate of Syria.

1924-1930 - The Fourth Aliya; 80,000 Polish Jews immigrate to Palestine.

1925 - The Fourteenth Zionist Congress. Hebrew University opens in Jerusalem.

1927 - The Fifteenth Zionist Congress.

1929 - The Sixteenth Zionist Congress.
- After 1929, Henry Ford provides the finances to carry the early Nazi Party through it's initial difficult years.
- August 23, Arab attack on the Jewish community in Hebron.

1931 - The Seventeenth Zionist Congress.

1932 - First issue published of "The Palestine Post" newspaper (later called "The Jerusalem Post").
- The King David Hotel is opened in Jerusalem.

1933/34 - The German parliament gives full powers to Adolph Hitler.

1933-1945 - The Holocaust.

1933-1939 - The Fifth Aliya; mainly from Germany.

1933 - The Eighteenth Zionist Congress.
- Dachau concentration camp is opened for the confinement of "undesirables" - mostly Jews.

1935 - The Nineteenth Zionist Congress.
- Adolph Hitler reclassifies the Jews as "untermensch" (sub-human), depriving them of citizenship.
- The Nuremberg Laws exclude Jews from public life, German citizenship, and certain occupations.

1936 - Germans vote in favor of Adolph Hitler by 98.8%.
- April 15, The "Arab Revolt" begins

1937 - The Twentieth Zionist Congress.
- The Peel Commission recommends partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.

1938 - Aliya B; illegal immigration of Jews from Europe begins.
- Nov. 9th: Kristallnacht, "The Night of Broken Glass". 7,000 Jewish shops looted, 267 synagogues burned down.

1939-1945 - World War Two

1939 - May 17, Britain issues the "White Paper", restricting Zionist activity in Palestine, limiting future Jewish immigration to 75,000, and reneging on it's promise of supporting a Jewish State.
- Twenty-first Zionist Congress.
- Nazi Germany adopts a master plan to liquidate all Jews in Europe.

1941 - The Germans first use gas chambers at Auschwitz.
- Jews in German territories required to wear a yellow star for identification.

1942 - In Berlin on January 20, the establishment of the "Final Solution" to exterminate the Jews of Europe.
- On the 9th of Av, the first killings at the Treblinka extermination camp in Poland.

1945 - December 2, initiation of the Arab League Boycott on the Jewish community in Palestine.
- January 27, Auschwitz Death Camp liberated.

1946 - The Twenty-second Zionist Congress.
- Thousands of Nazi war criminals flee into Arab countries, primarily Egypt and Syria.
- July 22, The King David Hotel in Jerusalem bombed by the Irgun.

1947 - February 14, Britain turns responsibility for Palestine over to the U.N.
- November 29, UN Resolution 181 calls for partition of the land into a Jewish state and an Arab State, and the internationalization of Jerusalem. Even though their portion comprised only a small percentage of the original Mandate, and most of that was desert, it was accepted by the Jews; but rejected by the Arabs.
- 15,000 Romanians and Bulgarians make Aliya.

The State of Israel:

1948 - May 14, Britain leaves Palestine and the Jews declare their independence, which starts the next day. The United States is the first nation to recognize the new State of Israel - 13 minutes after their Declaration of Independence.
- The War of Independence starts immediately after Israel's Declaration of Independence. Israel is invaded by five Arab nations as 750,000 Jews living in Arab countries are forced to flee to Israel.

1948-1951 - 1,000,000 Jews move to Israel, mostly from Europe and Arab countries.

1949 - January 25, David Ben-Gurion elected Prime Minister in Israel's first national election.
- Israel's Knesset moves to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv.
- Israel declares Jerusalem it's capital.

1949-1950 - Operation Magic Carpet brings the entire Jewish community of Yemen to Israel, numbering about 49.000 people.

1950 - Israel's Knesset passes the "Law of Return", giving citizenship to any Jew in the world who moves to Israel.
- May, Operation Ali Baba begins, bringing 113,000 Jews to Israel from Iraq.

1950-1952 - Operation Ezra and Nehemiah brings 130,000 Jews from Iraq to Israel.

1951 - King Abdullah of Jordan is assassinated on the Temple Mount by Arab extremists.

1955-1957 - 162,000 Jews come to Israel from Morocco, Tunisia, and Egypt.

1956 - The Sinai War, lasting 100 hours. The Jews deported from Egypt.

1958 - On Israel's 10th anniversary it has 2,000,000 citizens.

1958-1960 - 27,500 Jews come to Israel from Romania.

1959 - October 10, creation of the terrorist organization, Fatah.

1961-1964 - Another 215,000 Jews come to Israel from Morocco and Tunisia.

1964 - June 2, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) founded - 3 years before Israel gains the West Bank, east Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip in the Six-Day War.

1965 - The Roman Catholic Church exonerates modern Jews from guilt in the murder of Jesus Christ.

1967 - The Six-Day War (June 5-10). Israel gains control of East Jerusalem, including the Old City, and the Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, along with Judea and Samaria (the "West Bank"). Immediately after the war, Israel offered to negotiate the return of land for peace - but the Arab governments refused to talk to them.
- Israel's Knesset formally annexes East Jerusalem, including the Old City, into the State of Israel.
- In Hebron, the tombs of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are opened to non-Muslims for the first time in 700 years.
- In August, Arab leaders gather at the Khartoum Conference and adopt the policy of "The Three No's": No peace with Israel, No negotiations with Israel, and No recognition of Israel.
- November 22, the UN Security Council adopts Resolution 242, which includes calling for Arab countries to recognize Israel.

1968-1976 - 100,000 Jews come to Israel from the Soviet Union.

1969 - February, Yassir Arafat becomes Chairman of the PLO.

1972 - Palestinian terrorists massacre all 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics.

1973 - The Yom Kippur War.
- October 22, the UN Security Council adopts Resolution 338, which reaffirms Resolution 242 and calls for negotiations between Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

1975 - November 10, The UN General Assembly declares "Zionism is Racism" in Resolution 3379.

1977 - May 17, Menachem Begin elected Prime Minister in Israel.
- November 19, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat visits Jerusalem.

1978 - September 17, Camp David accords signed.

1979 - March 26, Israel and Egypt sign peace treaty.

1980 - The Knesset passes the Basic Law, "Jerusalem: Capital of Israel".

1981 - June 7, Israel destroys Iraq's Osiraq nuclear reactor.
- October 6, Islamic Extremists assassinate Egyptian President Anwar Sadat.

1982 - June 6, Start of the Lebanon war, "Operation Peace for Galilee".

1984-1985 - Operation Moses airlifts 8,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel. This operation was motivated by the large number of Ethiopian Jews who were actually walking across Sudan to reach Israel.

1987 - Start of the Intifada.

1989-1999 - 870,000 Russian Jews immigrate to Israel as the Soviet Union collapses.

1991 - Operation Solomon: massive airlift of 19,000 Jews from Ethiopia to Israel, 14,325 of them arriving in one day (May 24th).
- The UN repeals the "Zionism is Racism" resolution 3379 from 1975.

1993 - the Oslo Peace Accord.

1994 - October 26, Israel and Jordan sign peace agreement.

1995 - November 4th, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin is assassinated by an Israeli extremist who rejects any concessions to the Palestinians.

1997 - June 10, U.S. Congress recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's "United Capital".

1999-2002 - More than 10,000 Jews come to Israel from Argentina.

2000 - September 29, start of the second Intifada.

2004-2006 - 10,000 Jews come to Israel from France as anti-Semitism flares up there.

2004 - October 13, The Sanhedrin, a Jewish religious tribunal of 71 sages, re-established in Tiberius for the first time in over 1,600 years, now meeting monthly in Jerusalem.
- November 11, Yassir Arafat dies in a Paris hospital.

2006 - Israel now has the largest Jewish population of any nation in the world, finally surpassing the USA.

2007 - July 15-19, The first-ever international gathering of Kohanim (Priests) and Levites in Jerusalem - "the first family reunion of the Jewish priestly dynasty in nearly 2,000 years".

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Post  MoMo on Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:55 pm

Here is a Timeline lilly cannot comprehend, it places, accurately the Oxidation of the Atmosphere event, long before humans walked the Earth. lilly also ignores the New Testament Testimony of Yahshuas/Jesus ressurection when He met with some of His Disciples, and ate a fish.............Yahshua was breathing oxygen in His ressurected body with no harmful effects being notated.............what about that lilly? thumbs up

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/timeline.html

Counting Backwards from Now
60 years ago - Invention of the computer.


130 years ago - Invention of the telephone.

180 years ago - Fossil fuel revolution: coal, trains.

540 years ago - Invention of the printing press.

5,500 years ago - Invention of the wheel, writing.

7,600 years ago - Sahara desert starts forming in northern Africa.

8,800 years ago - The first cities.

10,300 years ago - End of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.

12,700 - 11,500 years ago - the Younger Dryas.

18,000 years ago - Cultivation of plants, herding of animals. Homo sapiens arrives in the Americas.

21,000 years ago - Last glacial maximum: ice sheets down to the Great Lakes, the mouth of the Rhine, and covering the British Isles.

32,000 years ago - Oldest known cave paintings.

35,000 years ago - Invention of the calendar, extinction of Homo neanderthalensis. Homo sapiens arrives in Europe.

50,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in central Asia.

100,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in the Middle East.

110,000 years ago - Beginning of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.

130,000 years ago - Beginning of the Eemian interglacial.

200,000 years ago - Beginning of the 2nd most recent glacial period: the Wolstonian glaciation.

250,000 years ago - First Homo sapiens.

350,000 years ago - First Homo neanderthalensis.

380,000 years ago - Beginning of the Hoxnian interglacial.

450,000 years ago - Beginning of the 3rd most recent glacial period: the Kansan glaciation, during which ice sheets reached their maximum extent in the Pleistocene, down to Kansas and Slovakia.

620,000 years ago - Beginning of the Cromerian interglacial.

1.4 million years ago - First firemaking by humans.

1.9 million years ago - First Homo erectus.

2.5 million years ago - First Homo habilis. Beginning of a period of repeated glaciation (loosely speaking, "ice ages").

3 million years - Cooling trend causes year-round ice to form at the North Pole.

3.9 million years ago - First known Australopithecus afarensis.

5 million years ago - Humans split off from other apes (gorillas and chimpanzees).

21 million years ago - Apes split off from other monkeys.

24 million years ago - Cooling trend causes the formation of grasslands; Antarctica becomes covered with ice.

34 million years ago - Gondwanaland finishes breaking up, with Australia and South America separating from Antarctica.

50 million years ago - India begins to collide with Asia, eventually forming the Himalayas.

67 million years ago - Asteroid hit Mexico, causing the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction. End of dinosaurs. 50% of all species died out! Intensification of world cooling trend.

114 million years ago - First modern mammals. World begins to cool.

150 million years ago - First birds.

200 million years ago - Pangaea began to split into separate continents: Gondwana to the south and Laurasia to the north, separated by the Tethys Sea.




205 million years ago - The Triassic-Jurassic extinction. End of large amphibians and many reptiles.

235 million years ago - First dinosaurs, flowers.

250 million years ago - The Permian-Triassic extinction. 90% of all species died out! Formation of the supercontinent Pangaea, with surrounding ocean Panthalassa.



313 million years ago - First reptiles.

365 million years ago - The Late Devonian extinction. 70% of marine species died out! First amphibians, trees.

395 million years ago - First insects on land.

415 million years ago - The Old Red Sandstone Continent, also known as Laurussia, is formed by the collision of Baltica and Laurentia at the beginning of the Devonian.

440 million years ago - The Ordovician-Silurian extinction. Most marine species died out.

670 million years ago - First animals.

630-850 million years ago - The Cryogenian Period, also known as Snowball Earth - the worst ice age in the Earth's history.

800 million years ago - The supercontinent Rodinia begins to break up.

1 billion years ago - Formation of the supercontinent Rodinia

1.3 billion years ago - First plants.

1.6 billion years ago - First blue-green algae.

2.4 billion years ago - The Great Oxidation Event: the Earth's atmosphere gets oxygen.
3 billion years ago - Formation of the first known continent, Ur.

3.8 - 4 billion years ago - The Late Heavy Bombardment: a period during which the Earth, Moon, Venus and Mars were subjected to many asteroid impacts, after a relatively calm period of several million years.

4 billion years ago - First life on Earth.

4.45 billion years ago - Formation of Earth complete; storm of asteroid impacts.

4.5 billion years ago - Formation of the Moon: according to the Giant Impact Hypothesis, this happened when Theia collided with proto-Earth.

4.55 billion years ago - Formation of the Solar System.

13.3 billion years ago - Reionization: the first stars heat and ionize hydrogen gas.

13.3 - 13.7 billion years ago - The Dark Ages, after the formation of hydrogen and before the first stars.

13.7 billion years ago - The Big Bang: beginning of the universe as we know it!


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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:21 pm

AV-IT wrote:
true lilly wrote:
AV-IT wrote:WoW ! I seem to be ruffling feathers here . . . .
No, you are boring folk to death
with the same old Nazi/Icke/tintin,
'blame, hate and kill the jews',
bitterly envious bile spitting.

Why not simply link to all 'your' other names,
slaving at the same evil, all over
The Now
Bigger Than Main Stream,
(ANTI) 'social' MEDIA?
Rolling Eyes
Nonsense!
YES, 'you'

ARE FULL OF IT!

'you' INSULT EVERYONE
who WON'T BUY, SELL & TRADE in

The 'New Age' Versions of 'your'
DEMONIC RELIGIONS.


AV-IT wrote:Since arriving here, I have been insulted no end
for showing
articles from around the web.

I have neither endorsed nor denied the articles.
NOW stick your head back up your criminal OZZY
(TAKE NOTE, LOYAL AUSTRALIANS)

ars£ whereit belongs!
Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA (3)

Billy Ruben says he's in hiding.
Should I post all the Ph. No's he threatens me by?

true lilly wrote:How about all the email addresses 'they' use and hack into and though?

(GAY) Greens Leader Bob Brown says
PM Julia Gillard deserves a break from 'sexist' criticism.

Getty Images

Results: Election call

Should Prime Minister Gillard
call an election?


Yes: 83.39% (8723 votes)
No
: 16.61% (1738 votes)

Total votes: 10462

__________________________________

Results: Top job


Should Kevin Rudd challenge Julia Gillard
for Australia's top job?


Yes
: 61.82% (5286 votes)

No
: 38.18% (3265 votes)

Total votes: 8551


Hawke's helping hand for Julia
Gillard jumps at shadows
Labor's top job a Ruddy big mess
Labor's top job a Ruddy big mess

PM criticism 'sexist' - Brown

1:09PM
Matt Johnston and Phillip Hudson


UPDATE:

GREENS leader Bob Brown says Julia Gillard
cops too much "sexist and unfair" criticism
and should be given a break.

259 comments on this story

Poll: Does the PM cop more flak because she's a woman?

Results: Gillard sexism debate

Does Julia Gillard receive more
than her fair share
of criticism because she's a woman?


Yes: 26.9% (170 votes)

No
: 73.81% (479 votes)
Total votes: 649


___________________________________________

Should Prime Minister Gillard call an election?

Yes:82.93% (9713 votes)
No: 17.07% (1999 votes)
Total votes: 11712


But, this has been a good Government for AUSTRALIANS,
in that it has well and truly shown us that it isn't,
'The Yellow Peril', or 'Reds under the beds',
that screw over this Uniquely Glorious Land,
but, 'The GREEN with ENVY, PINKS, lacing our drinks'...
while BANNING us from using OUR CLEAN WATER,
until the whole land is so sodden, that even light rains
have nowhere to go but through OUR HOMES!


Gillard says election winnable with hard work

...'says' the Labor WOman PM...
...and don't forget what happened under this
Labor WOman Premier...of KRudd's State...


Qld Government could face massive flood lawsuit
Updated
February 06, 2012 13:58:12


Photo:
Potential class action: Water pours down the spillway at Wivenhoe Dam


Related Story:
Engineer blames 'poor English' in flood report inaccuracies


Related Story:
Dam engineer accused of fabricating flood report


Related Story:
Queensland to vote on March 24

Related Story:
Flood inquiry to re-examine Wivenhoe operation


Authorities recovering alleged fraudster's property
Updated
January 10, 2012 17:36:21

Photo:Fraud accused: Joel Barlow is alleged to have stolen $11 million from Queensland Health. (AAP)

Related Story:
More bureaucrats may be 'stood down' in health fraud probe


Related Story:
Bligh under fire over 'reactionary' Qld Health split


Related Story:
Alleged fraudster charged over $11m theft


Related Story:
$16m fraud suspect detained in Brisbane


The State Government has taken another step in recovering property belonging to
alleged Queensland Health fraudster Joel Barlow.

The Director of Public Prosecutions this morning sought orders from a
Supreme Court Judge to restrain property including luxury cars,
expensive household items and property held by Barlow's sister.

The 36-year-old former bureaucrat is in custody after being charged with
stealing $11 million from his employer last year.

The orders made today mean Barlow cannot deal with the property in any way
while the allegations against him are before the courts.

In the wake of the alleged fraud, the Government intends to split Queensland Health
into two organisations to improve services.
Topics:
fraud-and-corporate-crime,
government-and-politics,
states-and-territories,
public-sector,
health,
health-administration,
law-crime-and-justice,
brisbane-4000,
qld,
australia
First posted
January 10, 2012 13:58:37


Qld Health restructure plans upset union
Posted
January 27, 2012 14:58:03
Related Story:
Authorities recovering alleged fraudster's property


Related Story:
Jet ski, clothing seized from alleged Qld Health fraudster


Related Story:
Bank glitch hits Qld Health pay packets


The union representing the state's health workers
will go to the Industrial Relations Commission to try to ensure that
members get a fair say on the restructure of Queensland Health.

The plan to break up Queensland Health into smaller agencies comes after
the alleged embezzlement of more than $16 million and major payroll
problems
.


Together secretary Alex Scott says it is not right to rush the process before the state election.

He says it is appalling that staff have only been given two days next week to comment on the break-up.

"We're hopeful that early next week the industrial commission will agree with us and
suggest that the Government needs to take a slower process and give all Queenslanders
as well as all Queensland Health workers a real opportunity to consider these matters
rather than having a rushed restructure forced through before a state election is called
and then potentially having another restructure occur just after a state election occurs,"
he said.

Mr Scott says workers are being treated as pawns by politicians.
Topics:
state-parliament,
public-sector,
government-and-politics,
qld,
brisbane-4000

Hohepa Morehu-Barlow,
also known as
Joel Barlow

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/police-failed-to-follow-up-queensland-health-fraud-lead-20111212-1oq27.html

Pedophile heads up children's unit for Queensland health
AAP
December 21, 2011
10:20AM

Pedophile heads up Consumer, Carer and Family team.
Queensland Health defends man's employment.
"He has no direct contact with children whatsoever".


A CONVICTED pedophile and a man ordered to pay damages

for software piracy are on Queensland Health's payroll.

The Courier-Mail newspaper reports the pedophile, convicted in 1994,
works in Queensland Health's mental health section.

An IT manager who was ordered by the Federal Court in 2001 to pay damages
of $210,000 was employed by Queensland Health in 2006 and two years later
was promoted.


Police Minister Neil Roberts said people with criminal convictions should be forgiven
at some stage and allowed to move on.


"Certainly they need to be held accountable for that," he told ABC Radio.


"But we also want people to get back on the straight and narrow
and lead productive lives in the community.


"We have to draw a line in the sand at some point.

"That's why under current legislation, after a period of time,
people are able to not declare certain offences.


"Some need to be declared, but this is the system we have and I think it works well


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/more-failed-checks-on-bureaucrats/story-e6frfkvr-1226227232641#ixzz1lZc2vHhT

Oh, and MORE, 'HEALTH' UNION TROUBLE...

  1. No intervention into Thomson inquiry

    Sydney Morning Herald
      Sydney Morning Herald‎ - 1 day ago
      The opposition and the union's current head, Kathy Jackson, say that's way too long. Mr Thomson is alleged to have used union credit cards for prostitutes, ...
      372 related articles
      Come clean on Thomson inquiry, Abbott says‎ - Herald Sun
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    1. Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten has ruled out intervening
      to speed up the Fair Work Australia (FWA) inquiry into the conduct of
      Labor MP Craig Thomson when he was a union official.

      Mr Shorten said FWA was a statutory body conducting its own investigation.

      "The best way to protect Fair Work Australia is to protect its independence," he told the Ten Network on Sunday.

      "The argument which says the government needs to intervene would undermine its independence."

      Since 2009 FWA has been examining allegations of
      financial irregularities at the Health Services Union formerly headed by
      Mr Thomson, now Labor MP for Dobell.
      The opposition and the union's
      current head, Kathy Jackson, say that's way too long.

      Mr Thomson is alleged to have used union credit cards for
      prostitutes, lavish meals and cash withdrawals - allegations he denies.

      Mr Thomson's vote is crucial to the survival of the Gillard minority government.

      FWA has concluded its investigation but has asked Mr
      Thomson and two other union officials, Ms Jackson and Michael
      Williamson, to comment on a list of "possible contraventions" by March 5
      before finalising its action.

      Mr Shorten said his personal dealings with Mr Thomson as an MP were fine.

      "In terms of what happens with the inquiry, we have got
      to see what the inquiry finds," he said. "But in the meantime, I do
      believe people deserve a presumption of innocence."

      Mr Shorten said he could not guarantee the FWA report would be released publicly.

      "For instance, if it turns out that the report has
      findings which then need to trigger an investigation by the DPP
      (Director of Public Prosecutions), releasing it publicly may prejudice
      any subsequent criminal investigation," he said.

      Opposition leader Tony Abbott said the inquiry had taken
      longer than the 1987-1989 Fitzgerald inquiry into Queensland police
      corruption.

      He added that the 1995-1997 Wood royal commission into
      the NSW Police Service had also been shorter, while the Cole royal
      commission into the building industry concluded after just 18 months.

      "It should not have taken more than three years to
      investigate Craig Thomson and bring this matter to a just conclusion,"
      he told the Ten Network on Sunday.

      He called on Prime Minister Julia Gillard to make it
      clear whether or not she still had full confidence in Mr Thomson, and if
      she was satisfied with the FWA investigation.

      "Let the government come clean by giving us all the
      details of this because no-one surely thinks it was absolutely necessary
      to drag this investigation out for so long," he said.
    </li>
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PM criticism 'not sexist' - Katter


3:36PM
Matt Johnston and Phillip Hudson

UPDATE: INDEPENDENT MP Bob Katter says
Greens leader Bob Brown is wrong
about the PM being the victim of sexist attacks.

In Queensland, every position of power is held by a woman,
Mr Katter said.

"Our governor general is a woman,
our governor is a woman,
our premier is a woman and
our prime minister is a woman,"
Mr Katter, the leader of
Katter's Australian Party, said.


429 comments on this story
mike of brisbane Posted at 3:40 PM Today
mmm - maybe Bob Katter for PM
is starting to have an interesting sound to it.
Yes we might have to accept some whacky policies,
but at least we would get
no spin, no lies, no deceit and a politician who
tells us exactly what they believe -
not what the pollsters tell them to say.

Now wouldn't that be
a refreshing political environment to live in.

true lilly wrote:
AV-IT wrote:
true lilly wrote:
AV-IT wrote:WoW ! I seem to be ruffling feathers here . . . .
No, you are boring folk to death
with the same old Nazi/Icke/tintin,
'blame, hate and kill the jews',
bitterly envious bile spitting.

Why not simply link to all 'your' other names,
slaving at the same evil, all over
The Now
Bigger Than Main Stream,
(ANTI) 'social' MEDIA?
Rolling Eyes
Nonsense!
YES, 'you'

ARE FULL OF IT!

'you' INSULT EVERYONE
who WON'T BUY, SELL & TRADE in

The 'New Age' Versions of 'your'
DEMONIC RELIGIONS.


AV-IT wrote:Since arriving here, I have been insulted no end
for showing
articles from around the web.

I have neither endorsed nor denied the articles.
NOW stick your head back up your criminal OZZY
(TAKE NOTE, LOYAL AUSTRALIANS)

ars£ whereit belongs!
Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA (3)

Billy Ruben says he's in hiding.
Should I post all the Ph. No's he threatens me by?

true lilly wrote:How about all the email addresses 'they' use and hack into and though?

(GAY) Greens Leader Bob Brown says
PM Julia Gillard deserves a break from 'sexist' criticism.

Getty Images

Results: Election call

Should Prime Minister Gillard
call an election?


Yes: 83.39% (8723 votes)
No
: 16.61% (1738 votes)

Total votes: 10462

__________________________________

Results: Top job


Should Kevin Rudd challenge Julia Gillard
for Australia's top job?


Yes
: 61.82% (5286 votes)

No
: 38.18% (3265 votes)

Total votes: 8551


Hawke's helping hand for Julia
Gillard jumps at shadows
Labor's top job a Ruddy big mess
Labor's top job a Ruddy big mess

PM criticism 'sexist' - Brown

1:09PM
Matt Johnston and Phillip Hudson


UPDATE:

GREENS leader Bob Brown says Julia Gillard
cops too much "sexist and unfair" criticism
and should be given a break.

259 comments on this story

Poll: Does the PM cop more flak because she's a woman?

Results: Gillard sexism debate

Does Julia Gillard receive more
than her fair share
of criticism because she's a woman?


Yes: 26.9% (170 votes)

No
: 73.81% (479 votes)
Total votes: 649


___________________________________________

Should Prime Minister Gillard call an election?

Yes:82.93% (9713 votes)
No: 17.07% (1999 votes)
Total votes: 11712


But, this has been a good Government for AUSTRALIANS,
in that it has well and truly shown us that it isn't,
'The Yellow Peril', or 'Reds under the beds',
that screw over this Uniquely Glorious Land,
but, 'The GREEN with ENVY, PINKS, lacing our drinks'...
while BANNING us from using OUR CLEAN WATER,
until the whole land is so sodden, that even light rains
have nowhere to go but through OUR HOMES!


Gillard says election winnable with hard work

...'says' the Labor WOman PM...
...and don't forget what happened under this
Labor WOman Premier...of KRudd's State...


Qld Government could face massive flood lawsuit
Updated
February 06, 2012 13:58:12


Photo:
Potential class action: Water pours down the spillway at Wivenhoe Dam


Related Story:
Engineer blames 'poor English' in flood report inaccuracies


Related Story:
Dam engineer accused of fabricating flood report


Related Story:
Queensland to vote on March 24

Related Story:
Flood inquiry to re-examine Wivenhoe operation


Authorities recovering alleged fraudster's property
Updated
January 10, 2012 17:36:21

Photo:Fraud accused: Joel Barlow is alleged to have stolen $11 million from Queensland Health. (AAP)

Related Story:
More bureaucrats may be 'stood down' in health fraud probe


Related Story:
Bligh under fire over 'reactionary' Qld Health split


Related Story:
Alleged fraudster charged over $11m theft


Related Story:
$16m fraud suspect detained in Brisbane


The State Government has taken another step in recovering property belonging to
alleged Queensland Health fraudster Joel Barlow.

The Director of Public Prosecutions this morning sought orders from a
Supreme Court Judge to restrain property including luxury cars,
expensive household items and property held by Barlow's sister.

The 36-year-old former bureaucrat is in custody after being charged with
stealing $11 million from his employer last year.

The orders made today mean Barlow cannot deal with the property in any way
while the allegations against him are before the courts.

In the wake of the alleged fraud, the Government intends to split Queensland Health
into two organisations to improve services.
Topics:
fraud-and-corporate-crime,
government-and-politics,
states-and-territories,
public-sector,
health,
health-administration,
law-crime-and-justice,
brisbane-4000,
qld,
australia
First posted
January 10, 2012 13:58:37


Qld Health restructure plans upset union
Posted
January 27, 2012 14:58:03
Related Story:
Authorities recovering alleged fraudster's property


Related Story:
Jet ski, clothing seized from alleged Qld Health fraudster


Related Story:
Bank glitch hits Qld Health pay packets


The union representing the state's health workers
will go to the Industrial Relations Commission to try to ensure that
members get a fair say on the restructure of Queensland Health.

The plan to break up Queensland Health into smaller agencies comes after
the alleged embezzlement of more than $16 million and major payroll
problems
.


Together secretary Alex Scott says it is not right to rush the process before the state election.

He says it is appalling that staff have only been given two days next week to comment on the break-up.

"We're hopeful that early next week the industrial commission will agree with us and
suggest that the Government needs to take a slower process and give all Queenslanders
as well as all Queensland Health workers a real opportunity to consider these matters
rather than having a rushed restructure forced through before a state election is called
and then potentially having another restructure occur just after a state election occurs,"
he said.

Mr Scott says workers are being treated as pawns by politicians.
Topics:
state-parliament,
public-sector,
government-and-politics,
qld,
brisbane-4000

Hohepa Morehu-Barlow,
also known as
Joel Barlow

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/police-failed-to-follow-up-queensland-health-fraud-lead-20111212-1oq27.html

Pedophile heads up children's unit for Queensland health
AAP
December 21, 2011
10:20AM

Pedophile heads up Consumer, Carer and Family team.
Queensland Health defends man's employment.
"He has no direct contact with children whatsoever".


A CONVICTED pedophile and a man ordered to pay damages

for software piracy are on Queensland Health's payroll.

The Courier-Mail newspaper reports the pedophile, convicted in 1994,
works in Queensland Health's mental health section.

An IT manager who was ordered by the Federal Court in 2001 to pay damages
of $210,000 was employed by Queensland Health in 2006 and two years later
was promoted.


Police Minister Neil Roberts said people with criminal convictions should be forgiven
at some stage and allowed to move on.


"Certainly they need to be held accountable for that," he told ABC Radio.


"But we also want people to get back on the straight and narrow
and lead productive lives in the community.


"We have to draw a line in the sand at some point.

"That's why under current legislation, after a period of time,
people are able to not declare certain offences.


"Some need to be declared, but this is the system we have and I think it works well


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/more-failed-checks-on-bureaucrats/story-e6frfkvr-1226227232641#ixzz1lZc2vHhT

Oh, and MORE, 'HEALTH' UNION TROUBLE...

  1. No intervention into Thomson inquiry

    Sydney Morning Herald
      Sydney Morning Herald‎ - 1 day ago
      The opposition and the union's current head, Kathy Jackson, say that's way too long. Mr Thomson is alleged to have used union credit cards for prostitutes, ...
      372 related articles
      Come clean on Thomson inquiry, Abbott says‎ - Herald Sun
    </li>
    1. Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten has ruled out intervening
      to speed up the Fair Work Australia (FWA) inquiry into the conduct of
      Labor MP Craig Thomson when he was a union official.

      Mr Shorten said FWA was a statutory body conducting its own investigation.

      "The best way to protect Fair Work Australia is to protect its independence," he told the Ten Network on Sunday.

      "The argument which says the government needs to intervene would undermine its independence."

      Since 2009 FWA has been examining allegations of
      financial irregularities at the Health Services Union formerly headed by
      Mr Thomson, now Labor MP for Dobell.
      The opposition and the union's
      current head, Kathy Jackson, say that's way too long.

      Mr Thomson is alleged to have used union credit cards for
      prostitutes, lavish meals and cash withdrawals - allegations he denies.

      Mr Thomson's vote is crucial to the survival of the Gillard minority government.

      FWA has concluded its investigation but has asked Mr
      Thomson and two other union officials, Ms Jackson and Michael
      Williamson, to comment on a list of "possible contraventions" by March 5
      before finalising its action.

      Mr Shorten said his personal dealings with Mr Thomson as an MP were fine.

      "In terms of what happens with the inquiry, we have got
      to see what the inquiry finds," he said. "But in the meantime, I do
      believe people deserve a presumption of innocence."

      Mr Shorten said he could not guarantee the FWA report would be released publicly.

      "For instance, if it turns out that the report has
      findings which then need to trigger an investigation by the DPP
      (Director of Public Prosecutions), releasing it publicly may prejudice
      any subsequent criminal investigation," he said.

      Opposition leader Tony Abbott said the inquiry had taken
      longer than the 1987-1989 Fitzgerald inquiry into Queensland police
      corruption.

      He added that the 1995-1997 Wood royal commission into
      the NSW Police Service had also been shorter, while the Cole royal
      commission into the building industry concluded after just 18 months.

      "It should not have taken more than three years to
      investigate Craig Thomson and bring this matter to a just conclusion,"
      he told the Ten Network on Sunday.

      He called on Prime Minister Julia Gillard to make it
      clear whether or not she still had full confidence in Mr Thomson, and if
      she was satisfied with the FWA investigation.

      "Let the government come clean by giving us all the
      details of this because no-one surely thinks it was absolutely necessary
      to drag this investigation out for so long," he said.
    </li>
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el kabong wrote:

................The Hebrew Bible, Old and New Testaments inform us that: Life is precious and History is meaningful, unlike David Ickes assertion that life is an Illusion, the Biblical view is more scientifically astute: The World is not AS we perceive it but it is very real. The Bible entrains our 6th Sense so that we may perceive realities beyond the 5 sense world.

The 5 Senses do not detect infrared, ultraviolet, radio waves, x-rays etc..yet they exist. The unaided human eye cannot perceive Atoms, protons, quarks etc.yet they exist......We see the Unity of existence, the ground that sustains being, the interconnexion of ALL Life.

The Creator is 'unseen' yet we learn to see through the surface of reality. We are never alone.

The Torah overcomes the Reptilian/Mammalian Brain Centers. Teaches us to become impeccably honest, to be non-exploitive, loving, altruistic. to be a Shepherd not a Predator.

In Hebraic Thought the whole Function of the Torah is to turn the Soul away from the things of the Flesh. FROM egoistic TO Altruistic. During our life our Soul either attaches itself to the things of Flesh, the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit-The Path of Light, becoming a Child of the Light.

When the False prophets and teachers tell us that Jesus 'did away with the Torah/Instruction/Laws of YHWH'...........they lie, they deceive........they mislead innocents onto the Path of Darkness........rodin; suzi woo woo: you must learn, before you die, to Play the Game Clean. You must learn why deceiving, cheating, exploiting are losing propositions and they harm you more then the people you harm by doing those sordid things.


Great harm is done to our societies as these once recognized undesirable charateristics are now exalted and presented as paradigms for behaviour.....................................The Good Newz is that there IS a Paradigm Shift-We are in a Transit between two Ages......The Age of Production and Accumulation TO the Age of Integrity and Restoration.

"Ahavta yirecha Kamocha"= Love your neighbor as yourself.

In humans the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment. And periodically they scream from the dungeons of their minds demanding their Freedom.

The Biblical Commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and limitations and restrictions on people limiting their Freedom, but rather as a Divine communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing humanbeings how life works and what to do and not to do to make the best of it.

Within the Torah/mitzvot/commandments are all the neccessary instructions for human conduct, in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap benefit from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe.


Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions.
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One of the first things we should learn in our search for the true Savior is His Name. The importance of knowing this Man's Name cannot be overstated. Names were and are very important to the Hebrew people, and their meanings are of great significance, not only to individuals, but also to entire families.

The name Jesus is an invention of man which in no way carries the meaning of the true Name of this Man mentioned in the New Testament. The simple fact (which is easily proven from authoritative sources) is that this man was born a Hebrew and He had a Hebrew name. There is no such name as Jesus in the Hebrew language.

Reading from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 10, page 10, we find that the supposed name Jesus is actually the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.

JESUS (d. 30 c.e.), whom Christianity sees as its founder and object of faith, was a Jew who lived toward the end of the Second Commonwealth period......The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 12, page 805, gives us additional information, concerning the Hebrew spelling of Joshua, which is yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin.


This source also points out to us that this Name, correctly pronounced Yahshua, is a compound name constructed with the Tetragrammaton,which is the Name: YAHWEH, . The Name Yahshua follows the common practice among the true worshippers of Yahweh, in forming and using compound names which brought glory to Yahweh's Name....................The Name Yahshua is just such a compound Name. It is a combination of Yahweh's Name in a personal name (YAH: yod-heh) and SHUA (shin-ayin), which means salvation. The Hebrew-English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver, and Briggs, page 221, tells us that the Name Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. ............The Law of Yahweh, which Yahshua and the apostles preached, plainly tells us that Yahweh is one.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5—
4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is one.
5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. ....................................The prophets further testified that Yahweh is the only source of power and there is no pagan God with Him at all.

Isayah 43:10-12—
10 You are My witnesses, says Yahweh, and My servants whom I have chosen; so you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He! before me there was no God (el) formed, nor will there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and no strange god (el) is among you! Therefore, you are My witnesses, says Yahweh: that I AM YAHWEH!

Isayah 44:8—
Do not fear, nor be afraid. Have I not told you from that time, and have declared; You are My witnesses! Is there a source of power except Me? Truly, there is no other rock; I know not one.

Isayah 45:6,18—
6 So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that There is none besides me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other!
18 For this is what Yahweh, Who created the heavens, Who is the Father, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain, Who formed it to be inhabited, says: I am Yahweh, and there is no other source of power!


It should now be obvious to anyone that the apostles, as well as the prophets, did not believe in or teach a pre-existent God-savior. The apostles clearly taught against pagan Godworship, the same worship all Christianity teaches today.

Romans 1:20-25—
20 For since the creation of the world, the invisible things of Him are clearly seen—His eternal power and holiness—being understood by the things that are written; so that they are without excuse.
21 Because that, when they knew Yahweh, they did not glorify Him as Father, nor were thankful, but became idolatrous; Godworshipers (worshipers of elohim), in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools; simpletons,
23 And exchanged the glory of the uncorruptible Father for images, made to resemble corruptible man, and birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Therefore, Yahweh also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own minds, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who exchanged the truth of Yahweh for the Lie; Lords (Baalim), Gods, and Goddesses (Elohim), and worshiped and served the creation, rather than the creator, Who is blessed forever. Praise Yahweh! HalleluYahweh!


I Corinthians 10:20-22—
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to Yahweh; and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of Yahweh's table and of the table of demons.
22 Do we provoke Yahweh to jealousy? are we stronger than He ?


II Corinthians 6:14-18—
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with unright-eousness? and what fellowship does light have with darkness?
15 And what harmony can there be between Messiah and Belial; Worthlessness: Satan? Or what share does a believer have with an infidel; untrustworthy, not faithful, not true nor loyal?
16 And what agreement does The House of Yahweh have with Gods (elohim)? for we are The House of the living Father. As Yahweh has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their Father, and they will be my people.
17 Therefore: come out from among them and be separate, says Yahweh. Do not touch the unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says Yahweh Almighty.


II Corinthians 4:4—
For the god (el) of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.


Romans 6:15-16—
15 What? May we sin as though we are not under the Law, yet under Yahweh's undeserved pardon? by no means!
16 Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey—whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

I Yahchanan 3:7-9—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whoever is begotten of Yahweh does not commit sin; for His seed remains in Him; and it is possible for him not to sin, because he has been begotten of Yahweh.


I Yahchanan 5:18-21—
18 We know that whoever is born of Yahweh does not sin; but he who has been begotten of Yahweh keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we belong to Yahweh, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come, and has given us an understanding, in order that we may know Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true, for we are in His Son, Yahshua. Yahweh is the true Father, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from the defilement of Gods (elohim).


Revelation 18:2-5—
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 Gor all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues,
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh has remembered her iniquities!

However, the apostles knew Yahweh's Plan which called for a man to be born who would be sacrificed for the past sins of many. They also knew that this man would be raised again by Yahweh.........................Yahweh has always revealed Himself as our Father. Yahshua Messiah taught His twelve apostles to pray to Yahweh, and to begin their prayers to Him as "Our Father."

As you read for yourself, you will find that Yahshua taught His disciples, those who obeyed Yahweh, to pray in the following manner.

Luke 11:2—
So He said to them: When you pray, using this example, say: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be; to show reverence and respect to, Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done; as it is in heaven, so may it be in earth.

In their ministry, the disciples spoke of Yahweh as the Father of Yahshua, saying this specifically in the following Scriptures:

Ephesians 1:17—
Asking that the Father of our King, Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation; unveiling and uncovering truths, for the full knowledge of Him.


I Kepha 1:3—
Blessed be Yahweh, the Father of our King Yahshua Messiah, Who, according to His abundant mercy, has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah from the dead;


I Corinthians 8:5-6—
5 For even though there are many called gods (elohim), whether in heaven or on earth (As there are many gods; elohim, and many lords; baalim.),
6 Yet to us there is only One Authority, the Father, from Whom all things came and for Whom we live. And there is but one King, Yahshua Messiah, on Whose account are all things, and on whose account we live .


However, to the disobedient, Yahshua said:

Yahchanan 8:44—
You are of your teacher who is Satan the Devil, and whatever she who is your teacher desires, you will do. She was a murderer from the beginning, and remained not in the truth, because there is no truth in her. Therefore, when you speak your falsehoods, you speak her words, because she is a liar, and the teacher of all lies!

The Holy Scriptures show that we accept one of two beings as our head. We can either accept Yahweh as our Father (head) or we can accept Satan as our head.

Through this world's lust to break the Laws of Yahweh, they have rejected Yahweh as their Father, while accepting Satan the adversary as their head. By doing this, they have become the people of the devil, as the Apostle Shaul describes in the following Scriptures, because they did not like to retain Yahweh in their knowledge..............................................Yahshua Messiah said the following.

Yahchanan 6:44—
No man can come to Me, unless the Father, Who has sent Me, draws him; and I will establish him as a priest at the last day.

When we are called out of this world by Yahweh's Holy Spirit and begin to understand the importance of Yahweh's Holy Scriptures in our lives, we, even then, are only half of the creation Yahweh requires us to be, in order for us to enter His Kingdom. To understand this, we must understand the Plan of Yahweh.

When Yahshua was resurrected from the dead, He became the firstborn of many brothers.

Romans 8:29—
For whom He did foreknow, He also did foreordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

When we are conformed to Yahshua we will also be conformed to the Father Yahweh, because Yahshua conformed to be exactly like the Father.

Hebrews 1:3—
Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the prophets, when He had purged sin, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high;


http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Shaul-Do-Away.pdf



Much like the Christian NAZIs that preceeded you, you are ignorant an ddon't know what you speak of. I see through you like I see through the water that flows down my drain. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

Based on years of archival research, The Aryan Jesus examines the membership and activities of this controversial theological organization. With headquarters in Eisenach, the Institute sponsored propaganda conferences throughout the Nazi Reich and published books defaming Judaism, including a dejudaized version of the New Testament and a catechism proclaiming Jesus as the savior of the Aryans. Institute members--professors of theology, bishops, and pastors--viewed their efforts as a vital support for Hitler's war against the Jews. Heschel looks in particular at Walter Grundmann, the Institute's director and a professor of the New Testament at the University of Jena. Grundmann and his colleagues formed a community of like-minded Nazi Christians who remained active and continued to support each other in Germany's postwar years.

The Aryan Jesus raises vital questions about Christianity's recent past and the ambivalent place of Judaism in Christian thought.


ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.html

Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfilled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14

Already in 1971 the historian Uriel Tal challenged the entrenched view that racist antisemitism is a new phenomenon that repudiates Christianity by arguing that it was actually utterly dependent on Christian anti-Judaism for its success: “it was not the economic crises that brought about this new political, racial and antireligious antisemitism, but completely the reverse, it was precisely the anti-Christian and antireligious ideology of racial antisemitism which hampered the first antisemitic parties in their efforts to utilize the economic crisis for their political development . . . [because] what still attracted the masses was the classical, traditional Christian anti-Judaism, however adapted it may have become to the new economic conditions.”15 Tal demonstrated that Germany’s antisemitic, völkisch movements that arose in the nineteenth century had to abandon their initial anti-Christian stances in order to win supporters for whom Christian anti-Jewish arguments held profound political appeal.16 Even within the so-called “church struggle” between German Christians and the Confessing Church for control of the Protestant church, antisemitism became the glue that united the otherwise warring factions. Similarly, however much Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption, and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.

Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fighter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?

Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.

Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political significance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19 The German Christians sought control and radical reform of the Protestant church, which they never fully achieved, leading them to bitter complaints and, in some cases, demands for its demolition. Meanwhile, Christianity was not to be banned nor the churches outlawed; rather, as the historian Ernst Piper writes, Nazi strategy was to control the churches and lead to “a steadily advancing process of delegitimization and disassociation, of undermining and repression” that would undercut the church’s moral authority and position of respect.20 In its own supersessionist theology, an amalgam of Nazism and Christianity, with a rejection of church authority and doctrine, an assertion of German supremacy and Jewish degeneracy, and absurd revisions of the Bible, the German Protestant church contributed substantially to the Nazi project of undermining Christianity.

The establishment of the Institute in 1939 and the proliferation of its projects during the war years demonstrates that the antisemitism of the German Christians was not simply rhetorical, but was intended to lend active support to Nazi policies against the Jews—or, at times, to push those policies in more radical directions. Indeed, certain Protestant theologians stood at the forefront in discussions of the so-called Jewish problem; Gerhard Kittel’s notorious speech of May 1933, later published as a pamphlet, has been called the most antisemitic utterance of that year.21 In considering ways to rid Germany of Jews, Kittel proposed not only expulsion and guest status, but extermination (“Ausrottung”), a method he rejected only because it was too difficult to implement. On February 24–25, 1936, a few months after the proclamation of the Nuremberg Laws, but long before Jews were being deported and murdered, a group of theologians, some of whom subsequently became leaders of the Institute, met in Dresden to discuss a merger of the German Christian factions of the state churches of Thuringia and Saxony. During the course of the meeting, Siegfried Leffler, a German Christian leader, official in the Thuringian Ministry of Education, and, by 1939, figurehead of the Institute, stated:

In a Christian life, the heart always has to be disposed toward the Jew, and that’s how it has to be. As a Christian, I can, I must, and I ought always to have or to find a bridge to the Jew in my heart. But as a Christian, I also have to follow the laws of my nation [Volk], which are often presented in a very cruel way, so that again I am brought into the harshest of confl icts with the Jew. Even if I know “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment of God or “thou shalt love the Jew” because he too is a child of the eternal Father, I am able to know as well that I have to kill him, I have to shoot him, and I can only do that if I am permitted to say: Christ.22
What is striking is not only that Leffler spoke of killing Jews as early as February 1936, long before mass murder of the Jews became Nazi policy, but that there was no response to his comments from those attending, neither immediately nor later in the session; the discussion simply continued as if murder of Jews in the name of Christ was a customary topic.23 The aryanization of Jesus into a manly, heroic, fighting spirit reflected among the theologians the “heroic realism” that prevailed in the 1930s within right-wing political thought. That “heroism” meant killing one’s opponent without emotion but in accord with principles of natural law, in defense of one’s own race and at the cost of personal sacrifice.24 Paul Althaus, professor of theology at the University of Erlangen and a noted ethicist, was present at the meeting, but expressed nothing to indicate that he was appalled or disturbed by Leffler’s remarks. The lack of outrage is evidence that ridding Germany of Jews had become an acceptable point of discussion among theologians, even when murder was proposed as a technique of achieving it. The Nuremberg Laws, while perceived by many German Jews as protection from far worse legislation, were viewed as an encouragement by the German Christian movement to take even more radical positions. Legal cases in German courts, brought in the wake of the Nuremberg Laws’ criminalization of sexual relations and marriage between Jews and Aryans, and widely reported in the German press, implicated Jews as sexual predators of Aryans, further encouraging Christian theologians to insist on protecting Christian purity by eradicating Jewishness with even more radical measures.25 The penetration of Christian bodies by Jewish sex reiterated a typical motif of racist rhetoric, the dangers of miscegenation, and reinforced fears that Aryanism was not immutable, but subject to destruction by Jews.26 Antisemites had long insisted that German Aryan women were vulnerable to Jewish predation, and Jesus, whose gentleness and suffering was viewed as effeminate by German Christians, was depicted in one caricature as an Aryan woman on a cross with a lecherous Jewish man in the foreground: the crucifixion as the Jewish rape of Germany. ............................
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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:53 am

el kabong wrote:Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland







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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave



http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

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Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



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Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
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Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)


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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:56 am

el kabong wrote:Bullshit lilly, you attack the jews, the Torah and Israel, you quote scripture like satan to distort and deform it to fit YOUR agenda....... thumbs up


......................For those who falsely claim that Yahshua Messiah/Jesus 'Did away with' the Torah/Laws of YHWH, I challenge you to explain these verses of Scripture.

http://www.eliyah.com/thescriptures/

Matthew 4
1 Then Yahshua was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.

2 And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.

3 And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the set- apart city, set Him on the edge of the Set- apart Place,

6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, throw Yourself down. For it has been written, ‘He shall command His messengers concerning you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, so that you do not dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Yahshua said to him, “It has also been written, ‘You shall not try YHWH your Elohim.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on a very high mountain, and showed Him all the reigns of the world, and their esteem,

9 and said to Him, “All these I shall give You if You fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Yahshua said to him, “Go, Satan! For it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and Him alone you shall serve.’



Yahshua cites Torah 3 Times with Authority....beaware of the False Teachers.

Is the New Testament Yahweh's Word?

Don't Accept The New Testament As Yahweh's Word On The Basis Of Human Tradition

http://www.serveyahweh.org/Religion/newtestament.htm

In the context of the New Testament canon Yahweh's people should not accept that the New Testament is Yahweh's word simply on the basis of human tradition. For Yah'shuah has shown that human tradition is NOT the basis for determining true worship. The New Testament, or any portion of it, should only be accepted as Yahweh's word only where it is fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment. But if it, or any portion of it, is not fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment it cannot and should not be accepted as Yahweh's word or commandment!



Live By Every Word That Proceeds Out Of Yahweh's Mouth
Matthew 4:4 reads,

4:4But he answered, "It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’"

In these comments Yah'shuah quoted from Moses' words to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 8:3,

8:3He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn’t know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh does man live.



Truth Is Yahweh's Word

John 17:17 reads,

17:17Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.

It is therefore clear from Yah'shuah's words that human beings are to live by every word proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh. He also defines truth as Yahweh's word. Therefore living by the truth is living by Yahweh's word, living by Yahweh's commandment. This is what human beings are to live by, and not by human tradition, especially human tradition contrary to Yahweh's word.



To Believe Yah'shuah/Jesus You Must Believe Moses' Writings
John 5:46-47 reads,

5:46For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote about me. 5:47But if you don’t believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

Yah'shuah's words show that it is necessary for one to believe Moses' writings in order to believe him. In other words, those who believe Moses' writings are the ones who believe Yah'shuah, and those who do not believe Moses' writings are the one who do not believe Yah'shuah. Yah'shuah therefore implicitly affirmed that Moses' writings are indeed Yahweh's word.



Yah'shuah Didn't Destroy The Law Or The Prophets

Matthew 5:17-18 reads,

5:17"Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Yah'shuah therefore affirmed that the law and the prophets, the writings he affirmed as Yahweh's word, would continue in applicability even up to the time of the passing away of heaven and earth. Seeing that heaven and earth are still with us it is indeed the conclusion that nothing has passed away from the law, and it remains in full application.



Yah'shuah Commanded His Disciples To Abide By Moses' Authority

Matthew 23:1-4 reads,

23:1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 23:2saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses’ seat. 23:3All things therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do, but don’t do their works; for they say, and don’t do. 23:4For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.

Yah'shuah commanded human beings, including his disciples, to abide by the authority vested in Moses. In other words, he simply affirmed his word in Matthew 5:17-18, on the continuing applicability of the law or Yahweh's word as delivered by Moses to the children of Israel.



Believe What The Prophets Have Spoken

Luke 24:25-27 reads,

24:25He said to them, "Foolish men, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 24:26Didn’t the Christ have to suffer these things, and to enter into his glory?" 24:27Beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he explained to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

Yah'shuah's usage of the writings of Moses and those of the prophets shows that he acknowledged these as Yahweh's word. For in Matthew 4 and 15 he clearly taught that human beings are to live only by Yahweh's word, and here he was indeed teaching his disciples by the writings of Moses and the prophets. Yah'shuah therefore acknowledged that the writings of Moses and the prophets are indeed Yahweh's word.


Live By The Writings In The Law Of Moses, The Prophets And The Psalms

Luke 24:42-49 reads,

24:42They gave him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 24:43He took it, and ate in front of them. 24:44He said to them, "This is what I told you, while I was still with you, that all things which are written in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me must be fulfilled."

24:45Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures. 24:46He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 24:47and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 24:48You are witnesses of these things. 24:49Behold, I send forth the promise of my Father on you. But wait in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high."

According to Yah'shuah the collection of writings that made up Yahweh's word, what all human beings are to live by, is that called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms - what is today called the Old Testament. This is synonymous with the Scriptures, according to the author of the above words - Luke.



Yah'shuah's Disciples Of All Nations Are To Observe The Things He Personally Commanded His Disciples
Matthew 28:18-20 reads,

28:18Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. 28:19Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 28:20teaching them to observe all things which I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Yah'shuah clearly commanded his disciples to teach new disciples of all nations to observe all things that he had commanded his disciples. He commanded them to live by every word that proceeds out of Yahweh's mouth. He also showed them that Yahweh's word is contained in the writings called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms (writings), now commonly known as the Old Testament. Therefore, the things that Yah'shuah's disciples are to observe are those that are contained in the writings commonly called the Old Testament. For observing the things in these writings is indeed living by words proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh, seeing that words that proceeded out of Yahweh's mouth are contained in these writings.



Yahweh's Word To His Disciples Concerning Verification Of Words

Isaiah 8:16-20 reads,

8:16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 8:17I will wait for Yahweh, who hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 8:18Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Hosts, who dwells in Mount Zion. 8:19When they shall tell you, "Consult with those who have familiar spirits and with the wizards, who chirp and who mutter:" shouldn’t a people consult with their God? On behalf of the living should they consult with the dead? 8:20To the law and to the testimony! If they don’t speak according to this word, surely there is no morning for them.

8:16 clearly shows that the testimony (prophets and writings) and the law (of Moses) should be bound and sealed among Yahweh's disciples. And in matters of light Yahweh's disciples are not to consult with forces of darkness. They are to consult only the law and the testimony. In other words, the very writings that Yah'shuah later used in affirming that he was indeed the Messiah, the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings, are the very same ones that Yahweh commands his disciples to consult. For light is contained in his word, which is recorded in these writings. And anyone speaking contrary to his word in these writings is devoid of light. In other words, any writing that is contrary to the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings is not Yahweh's word, but a word and work of darkness!



Another Test Yahweh Gives His People Concerning Verification Of Words

Deuteronomy 18:9-22 reads,

18:9When you are come into the land which Yahweh your God gives you, you shall not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 18:10There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer, 18:11or a charmer, or a consulter with a familiar spirit, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12For whoever does these things is an abomination to Yahweh: and because of these abominations Yahweh your God does drive them out from before you. 18:13You shall be perfect with Yahweh your God. 18:14For these nations, that you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice sorcery, and to diviners; but as for you, Yahweh your God has not allowed you so to do. 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; 18:16according to all that you desired of Yahweh your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Yahweh my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I not die. 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken. 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. 18:19It shall happen, that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. 18:21If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken? 18:22When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn’t follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.



Don't Listen To Those Who Practice Abominations

Yahweh clearly warned the children of Israel not to listen to those who practice abominations - the practices of darkness as seen in Isaiah 8:16-20. It is on account of both practising these abominations and listening to the practitioners of these abominations that Yahweh cast out of the land of Canaan those who inhabited it prior to the children of Israel
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................The Hebrew Bible, Old and New Testaments inform us that: Life is precious and History is meaningful, unlike David Ickes assertion that life is an Illusion, the Biblical view is more scientifically astute: The World is not AS we perceive it but it is very real. The Bible entrains our 6th Sense so that we may perceive realities beyond the 5 sense world.

The 5 Senses do not detect infrared, ultraviolet, radio waves, x-rays etc..yet they exist. The unaided human eye cannot perceive Atoms, protons, quarks etc.yet they exist......We see the Unity of existence, the ground that sustains being, the interconnexion of ALL Life.

The Creator is 'unseen' yet we learn to see through the surface of reality. We are never alone.

The Torah overcomes the Reptilian/Mammalian Brain Centers. Teaches us to become impeccably honest, to be non-exploitive, loving, altruistic. to be a Shepherd not a Predator.

In Hebraic Thought the whole Function of the Torah is to turn the Soul away from the things of the Flesh. FROM egoistic TO Altruistic. During our life our Soul either attaches itself to the things of Flesh, the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit-The Path of Light, becoming a Child of the Light.

When the False prophets and teachers tell us that Jesus 'did away with the Torah/Instruction/Laws of YHWH'...........they lie, they deceive........they mislead innocents onto the Path of Darkness........rodin; suzi woo woo: you must learn, before you die, to Play the Game Clean. You must learn why deceiving, cheating, exploiting are losing propositions and they harm you more then the people you harm by doing those sordid things.


Great harm is done to our societies as these once recognized undesirable charateristics are now exalted and presented as paradigms for behaviour.....................................The Good Newz is that there IS a Paradigm Shift-We are in a Transit between two Ages......The Age of Production and Accumulation TO the Age of Integrity and Restoration.

"Ahavta yirecha Kamocha"= Love your neighbor as yourself.

In humans the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment. And periodically they scream from the dungeons of their minds demanding their Freedom.

The Biblical Commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and limitations and restrictions on people limiting their Freedom, but rather as a Divine communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing humanbeings how life works and what to do and not to do to make the best of it.

Within the Torah/mitzvot/commandments are all the neccessary instructions for human conduct, in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap benefit from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe.


Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions.
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One of the first things we should learn in our search for the true Savior is His Name. The importance of knowing this Man's Name cannot be overstated. Names were and are very important to the Hebrew people, and their meanings are of great significance, not only to individuals, but also to entire families.

The name Jesus is an invention of man which in no way carries the meaning of the true Name of this Man mentioned in the New Testament. The simple fact (which is easily proven from authoritative sources) is that this man was born a Hebrew and He had a Hebrew name. There is no such name as Jesus in the Hebrew language.

Reading from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 10, page 10, we find that the supposed name Jesus is actually the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.

JESUS (d. 30 c.e.), whom Christianity sees as its founder and object of faith, was a Jew who lived toward the end of the Second Commonwealth period......The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 12, page 805, gives us additional information, concerning the Hebrew spelling of Joshua, which is yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin.


This source also points out to us that this Name, correctly pronounced Yahshua, is a compound name constructed with the Tetragrammaton,which is the Name: YAHWEH, . The Name Yahshua follows the common practice among the true worshippers of Yahweh, in forming and using compound names which brought glory to Yahweh's Name....................The Name Yahshua is just such a compound Name. It is a combination of Yahweh's Name in a personal name (YAH: yod-heh) and SHUA (shin-ayin), which means salvation. The Hebrew-English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver, and Briggs, page 221, tells us that the Name Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. ............The Law of Yahweh, which Yahshua and the apostles preached, plainly tells us that Yahweh is one.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5—
4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is one.
5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. ....................................The prophets further testified that Yahweh is the only source of power and there is no pagan God with Him at all.

Isayah 43:10-12—
10 You are My witnesses, says Yahweh, and My servants whom I have chosen; so you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He! before me there was no God (el) formed, nor will there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and no strange god (el) is among you! Therefore, you are My witnesses, says Yahweh: that I AM YAHWEH!

Isayah 44:8—
Do not fear, nor be afraid. Have I not told you from that time, and have declared; You are My witnesses! Is there a source of power except Me? Truly, there is no other rock; I know not one.

Isayah 45:6,18—
6 So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that There is none besides me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other!
18 For this is what Yahweh, Who created the heavens, Who is the Father, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain, Who formed it to be inhabited, says: I am Yahweh, and there is no other source of power!


It should now be obvious to anyone that the apostles, as well as the prophets, did not believe in or teach a pre-existent God-savior. The apostles clearly taught against pagan Godworship, the same worship all Christianity teaches today.

Romans 1:20-25—
20 For since the creation of the world, the invisible things of Him are clearly seen—His eternal power and holiness—being understood by the things that are written; so that they are without excuse.
21 Because that, when they knew Yahweh, they did not glorify Him as Father, nor were thankful, but became idolatrous; Godworshipers (worshipers of elohim), in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools; simpletons,
23 And exchanged the glory of the uncorruptible Father for images, made to resemble corruptible man, and birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Therefore, Yahweh also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own minds, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who exchanged the truth of Yahweh for the Lie; Lords (Baalim), Gods, and Goddesses (Elohim), and worshiped and served the creation, rather than the creator, Who is blessed forever. Praise Yahweh! HalleluYahweh!


I Corinthians 10:20-22—
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to Yahweh; and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of Yahweh's table and of the table of demons.
22 Do we provoke Yahweh to jealousy? are we stronger than He ?


II Corinthians 6:14-18—
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with unright-eousness? and what fellowship does light have with darkness?
15 And what harmony can there be between Messiah and Belial; Worthlessness: Satan? Or what share does a believer have with an infidel; untrustworthy, not faithful, not true nor loyal?
16 And what agreement does The House of Yahweh have with Gods (elohim)? for we are The House of the living Father. As Yahweh has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their Father, and they will be my people.
17 Therefore: come out from among them and be separate, says Yahweh. Do not touch the unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says Yahweh Almighty.


II Corinthians 4:4—
For the god (el) of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.


Romans 6:15-16—
15 What? May we sin as though we are not under the Law, yet under Yahweh's undeserved pardon? by no means!
16 Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey—whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

I Yahchanan 3:7-9—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whoever is begotten of Yahweh does not commit sin; for His seed remains in Him; and it is possible for him not to sin, because he has been begotten of Yahweh.


I Yahchanan 5:18-21—
18 We know that whoever is born of Yahweh does not sin; but he who has been begotten of Yahweh keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we belong to Yahweh, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come, and has given us an understanding, in order that we may know Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true, for we are in His Son, Yahshua. Yahweh is the true Father, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from the defilement of Gods (elohim).


Revelation 18:2-5—
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 Gor all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues,
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh has remembered her iniquities!

However, the apostles knew Yahweh's Plan which called for a man to be born who would be sacrificed for the past sins of many. They also knew that this man would be raised again by Yahweh.........................Yahweh has always revealed Himself as our Father. Yahshua Messiah taught His twelve apostles to pray to Yahweh, and to begin their prayers to Him as "Our Father."

As you read for yourself, you will find that Yahshua taught His disciples, those who obeyed Yahweh, to pray in the following manner.

Luke 11:2—
So He said to them: When you pray, using this example, say: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be; to show reverence and respect to, Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done; as it is in heaven, so may it be in earth.

In their ministry, the disciples spoke of Yahweh as the Father of Yahshua, saying this specifically in the following Scriptures:

Ephesians 1:17—
Asking that the Father of our King, Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation; unveiling and uncovering truths, for the full knowledge of Him.


I Kepha 1:3—
Blessed be Yahweh, the Father of our King Yahshua Messiah, Who, according to His abundant mercy, has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah from the dead;


I Corinthians 8:5-6—
5 For even though there are many called gods (elohim), whether in heaven or on earth (As there are many gods; elohim, and many lords; baalim.),
6 Yet to us there is only One Authority, the Father, from Whom all things came and for Whom we live. And there is but one King, Yahshua Messiah, on Whose account are all things, and on whose account we live .


However, to the disobedient, Yahshua said:

Yahchanan 8:44—
You are of your teacher who is Satan the Devil, and whatever she who is your teacher desires, you will do. She was a murderer from the beginning, and remained not in the truth, because there is no truth in her. Therefore, when you speak your falsehoods, you speak her words, because she is a liar, and the teacher of all lies!

The Holy Scriptures show that we accept one of two beings as our head. We can either accept Yahweh as our Father (head) or we can accept Satan as our head.

Through this world's lust to break the Laws of Yahweh, they have rejected Yahweh as their Father, while accepting Satan the adversary as their head. By doing this, they have become the people of the devil, as the Apostle Shaul describes in the following Scriptures, because they did not like to retain Yahweh in their knowledge..............................................Yahshua Messiah said the following.

Yahchanan 6:44—
No man can come to Me, unless the Father, Who has sent Me, draws him; and I will establish him as a priest at the last day.

When we are called out of this world by Yahweh's Holy Spirit and begin to understand the importance of Yahweh's Holy Scriptures in our lives, we, even then, are only half of the creation Yahweh requires us to be, in order for us to enter His Kingdom. To understand this, we must understand the Plan of Yahweh.

When Yahshua was resurrected from the dead, He became the firstborn of many brothers.

Romans 8:29—
For whom He did foreknow, He also did foreordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

When we are conformed to Yahshua we will also be conformed to the Father Yahweh, because Yahshua conformed to be exactly like the Father.

Hebrews 1:3—
Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the prophets, when He had purged sin, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high;


http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Shaul-Do-Away.pdf



Much like the Christian NAZIs that preceeded you, you are ignorant an ddon't know what you speak of. I see through you like I see through the water that flows down my drain. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

Based on years of archival research, The Aryan Jesus examines the membership and activities of this controversial theological organization. With headquarters in Eisenach, the Institute sponsored propaganda conferences throughout the Nazi Reich and published books defaming Judaism, including a dejudaized version of the New Testament and a catechism proclaiming Jesus as the savior of the Aryans. Institute members--professors of theology, bishops, and pastors--viewed their efforts as a vital support for Hitler's war against the Jews. Heschel looks in particular at Walter Grundmann, the Institute's director and a professor of the New Testament at the University of Jena. Grundmann and his colleagues formed a community of like-minded Nazi Christians who remained active and continued to support each other in Germany's postwar years.

The Aryan Jesus raises vital questions about Christianity's recent past and the ambivalent place of Judaism in Christian thought.


ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.html

Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfilled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14

Already in 1971 the historian Uriel Tal challenged the entrenched view that racist antisemitism is a new phenomenon that repudiates Christianity by arguing that it was actually utterly dependent on Christian anti-Judaism for its success: “it was not the economic crises that brought about this new political, racial and antireligious antisemitism, but completely the reverse, it was precisely the anti-Christian and antireligious ideology of racial antisemitism which hampered the first antisemitic parties in their efforts to utilize the economic crisis for their political development . . . [because] what still attracted the masses was the classical, traditional Christian anti-Judaism, however adapted it may have become to the new economic conditions.”15 Tal demonstrated that Germany’s antisemitic, völkisch movements that arose in the nineteenth century had to abandon their initial anti-Christian stances in order to win supporters for whom Christian anti-Jewish arguments held profound political appeal.16 Even within the so-called “church struggle” between German Christians and the Confessing Church for control of the Protestant church, antisemitism became the glue that united the otherwise warring factions. Similarly, however much Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption, and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.

Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fighter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?

Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.

Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political significance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19 The German Christians sought control and radical reform of the Protestant church, which they never fully achieved, leading them to bitter complaints and, in some cases, demands for its demolition. Meanwhile, Christianity was not to be banned nor the churches outlawed; rather, as the historian Ernst Piper writes, Nazi strategy was to control the churches and lead to “a steadily advancing process of delegitimization and disassociation, of undermining and repression” that would undercut the church’s moral authority and position of respect.20 In its own supersessionist theology, an amalgam of Nazism and Christianity, with a rejection of church authority and doctrine, an assertion of German supremacy and Jewish degeneracy, and absurd revisions of the Bible, the German Protestant church contributed substantially to the Nazi project of undermining Christianity.

The establishment of the Institute in 1939 and the proliferation of its projects during the war years demonstrates that the antisemitism of the German Christians was not simply rhetorical, but was intended to lend active support to Nazi policies against the Jews—or, at times, to push those policies in more radical directions. Indeed, certain Protestant theologians stood at the forefront in discussions of the so-called Jewish problem; Gerhard Kittel’s notorious speech of May 1933, later published as a pamphlet, has been called the most antisemitic utterance of that year.21 In considering ways to rid Germany of Jews, Kittel proposed not only expulsion and guest status, but extermination (“Ausrottung”), a method he rejected only because it was too difficult to implement. On February 24–25, 1936, a few months after the proclamation of the Nuremberg Laws, but long before Jews were being deported and murdered, a group of theologians, some of whom subsequently became leaders of the Institute, met in Dresden to discuss a merger of the German Christian factions of the state churches of Thuringia and Saxony. During the course of the meeting, Siegfried Leffler, a German Christian leader, official in the Thuringian Ministry of Education, and, by 1939, figurehead of the Institute, stated:

In a Christian life, the heart always has to be disposed toward the Jew, and that’s how it has to be. As a Christian, I can, I must, and I ought always to have or to find a bridge to the Jew in my heart. But as a Christian, I also have to follow the laws of my nation [Volk], which are often presented in a very cruel way, so that again I am brought into the harshest of confl icts with the Jew. Even if I know “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment of God or “thou shalt love the Jew” because he too is a child of the eternal Father, I am able to know as well that I have to kill him, I have to shoot him, and I can only do that if I am permitted to say: Christ.22
What is striking is not only that Leffler spoke of killing Jews as early as February 1936, long before mass murder of the Jews became Nazi policy, but that there was no response to his comments from those attending, neither immediately nor later in the session; the discussion simply continued as if murder of Jews in the name of Christ was a customary topic.23 The aryanization of Jesus into a manly, heroic, fighting spirit reflected among the theologians the “heroic realism” that prevailed in the 1930s within right-wing political thought. That “heroism” meant killing one’s opponent without emotion but in accord with principles of natural law, in defense of one’s own race and at the cost of personal sacrifice.24 Paul Althaus, professor of theology at the University of Erlangen and a noted ethicist, was present at the meeting, but expressed nothing to indicate that he was appalled or disturbed by Leffler’s remarks. The lack of outrage is evidence that ridding Germany of Jews had become an acceptable point of discussion among theologians, even when murder was proposed as a technique of achieving it. The Nuremberg Laws, while perceived by many German Jews as protection from far worse legislation, were viewed as an encouragement by the German Christian movement to take even more radical positions. Legal cases in German courts, brought in the wake of the Nuremberg Laws’ criminalization of sexual relations and marriage between Jews and Aryans, and widely reported in the German press, implicated Jews as sexual predators of Aryans, further encouraging Christian theologians to insist on protecting Christian purity by eradicating Jewishness with even more radical measures.25 The penetration of Christian bodies by Jewish sex reiterated a typical motif of racist rhetoric, the dangers of miscegenation, and reinforced fears that Aryanism was not immutable, but subject to destruction by Jews.26 Antisemites had long insisted that German Aryan women were vulnerable to Jewish predation, and Jesus, whose gentleness and suffering was viewed as effeminate by German Christians, was depicted in one caricature as an Aryan woman on a cross with a lecherous Jewish man in the foreground: the crucifixion as the Jewish rape of Germany. ............................


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