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Post  true lilly on Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:36 am


Gillard faces open revolt among MPs


JULIA Gillard is being publicly urged to "resign now"
by some senior
ministers as the government descended
into open warfare last night.


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Post  true lilly on Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:31 pm

Just like DIF, 'tiswas' DEMANDED NO DISCUSSION
about THE ENEMIES of AUSTRALIA, who work to
weaken it for an easy hand over to THE SAME SCUM
who have TORN DOWN EUROPE and AMERICA.

So how many more of those 'power-broking'
BIG HEADS have to roll, before 'you' all realize,
that NONE OF 'you' are 'untouchable' BY GOD?


Joe Hill wrote:http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=201205

rodin wrote:I
was banned then re-instated, and the crew of Mods that had conspired to
get rid of me were, to by great surprise and delight, outed in a purge.


Now no Mod dares ban me in case the same thing happens to them Very Happy

I jest of course about the last bit, but the rest is true.

So apparently you CAN discuss moderation , if you are an outspoken jew basher like rodin Wink

In response to other posters merlincove delted their posts but rodins comments only fetched this:

merlincove wrote:
rodin wrote:
Now no Mod dares ban me in case the same thing happens to them
Just a sec, i'll get right on it Very Happy

And in repsonse to other posters I_am posted this

i_am wrote:
If you are banned, that is it...end of, except in exceptional circumstances.

to which rodin posted
rodin wrote:Wink

So smuggfuck rodin just blatantly discusses moderation in front of merlincove and I_am and I cannot point this out for er....discussing moderation.

It gives you some idea of what sort of police state one would live in if these fuckers were to get power.

THank fuck that they are incompetent losers. flower cheers
Funny, DIF, THE ANTI-AUSTRALIANS PROPAGANDA PUSHERS,
seem to be in the same boat as THE ANTI-AUSTRALIANS,
PRO-UN ONE WORLD DICTATORSHIP, LABOR PARTY.

'They've' both stabbed so many of each other in the back
that 'they' have to 'resuscitate' 'their' WALKING DEAD
to BUY back 'their' numbers.


Seems 'they' forget,
you can SMELL THE STENCH of a CORPSE coming
from a long way off, through 'walls', and all manner of
'covers'.



Funny how the more 'Billy Ruben/Ciggy/et al',
choose to attack me, BY "DEFENDING" the ilk
that I've spent years WARNING folk about,
THE MORE of 'them', AND 'their WAYS', GET OUTED...


Sinister surgeon deceives 152 women

EXCLUSIVE:
A ROGUE surgeon performed unnecessary,
unauthorised and - in some cases -
botched surgery on 152 WA women
in a suspected money-making scheme.


Source: PerthNow

A ROGUE surgeon performed unnecessary, unauthorised - and in some
cases botched surgery - on 152 WA women in a suspected money-making
scheme.

In 141 cases, he risked serious complications, including making the women infertile.
In several other cases, the now-banned medico was responsible for horrific blunders.

His reckless actions carried on unchecked in Perth hospitals for more than
four years before he was stopped and banned. Until today, the scandal
has been cloaked in secrecy because of a court order obtained by the
wealthy surgeon's lawyers.


After a marathon and expensive legal fight, The Sunday Times can finally tell the WA public what happened. But it still cannot name the surgeon.

His patients have told of major surgical errors such as attaching the
uterus to the bowel, slicing arteries, performing vaginal "resizings"
when they were not needed and incorrectly performed internal procedures.


In 2009, the surgeon, who has since fled the country, pleaded
guilty to misconduct and gross carelessness before the State
Administrative Tribunal.


One charge related to him performing unnecessary secondary operations without the consent of his patients.

After delivering babies through caesarean sections, he removed benign
growths, known as fimbrial cysts, from patients' fallopian tubes. These
ranged in size from pinheads to large marbles.


He did not tell his patients or seek their consent for the added procedure which netted
him extra money despite the heightened risk of infertility and other
serious complications.


A confidential Health Department briefing paper obtained by The Sunday Times
shows that between October 2001 and January 2006 the surgeon performed
these extra operations on at least 141 patients after he delivered their
babies. Eleven gynaecological procedures were also identified.

Authorities first discovered irregularities in September 2005, according to the paper.

It referred to the surgeon's "billing practice" billing hospitals for the
original operations and the removal of the cysts, which reaped him an
extra $384 to $492 a patient.


The "billing practice" significantly increased during 2004 and 2005.


In May 2006, the Medical Board won an interim order to stop the surgeon
performing the second operations. A month later, it applied to
indefinitely suspend the surgeon.


A full briefing on the case was provided to then South Metropolitan Area Health Service
chief executive Peter Flett, then health director Neale Fong and former health minister
Jim McGinty in August 2007. They all agreed that "open disclosure"
should occur to all patients who "may" have suffered some harm,
according to the briefing.


A month
later, authorities began making contact with patients. Twenty-four cases
were deemed serious enough to require senior health staff to phone
patients and tell them to
seek immediate medical attention.


Of those, six were referred to specialists for further checks. Other patients were sent letters
informing them they had secondary surgery they did not know about.


Over the same period, several patients filed complaints with the Medical
Board over botched gynaecological procedures by the same surgeon.


Thirteen proceedings were launched by the Medical Board against the surgeon,
involving nine patients.


The first case, which was filed in November 2005, involved an incorrectly
performed hysterectomy that left the woman completely numb in her uterus region.


Another case involved repeated botched gynaecological operations on a 16-year-old.

The surgeon left WA in early 2007.

In March 2009, he was permanently stripped of his right to work as a
doctor in WA after he was found guilty of "disgraceful or dishonourable"
conduct for lying about the complaints against him while trying to get
work in South Africa.


Almost all the details of the scandal
had been kept secret because a
blanket suppression order was granted

after the surgeon's lawyers argued
he was at risk of self-harm
if the case became public.


The Sunday Times won a partial lifting of the order, allowing it to publish today's story.
The newspaper spent more than $120,000 in its legal battle. More victims of the surgeon
may now surface.


The WA Health Department issued a statement on Friday about the surgeon.

It said: "Dr X was regularly billing for secondary medical procedures
while performing obstetric and gynaecological surgery. Independent
reviews found that these procedures were not medically indicated.


"WA Health reported Dr X to the WA Medical Board in 2006 following concerns
about his practices. Immediate action was taken to stop him from
operating in WA and a clinical review was conducted to determine the
number of women who may have been affected by the additional secondary
procedures. He ceased employment at WA Health in early 2006.


"WA Health identified 141 obstetric and 11 gynaecological patients who may have been affected by the secondary procedures.

WA Health contacted the women, but was unsuccessful in 13 cases despite all efforts.

"These women have been offered counselling and referral to a medical specialist if necessary," the report said.

"WA Health condemns the actions of this doctor and regrets any harm and distress he has caused patients and their families."

A Medical Board official said: "Ultimately the practitioner was deregistered as a result of the action taken by the board.

"Surgical procedures generally involved risk to the patient and it is
unacceptable to carry out any surgical procedure unnecessarily.


"It is also unacceptable to carry out a surgical procedure
without the patient having given his or her consent.
"


...SHOVEL...SIDEWAYS...!

Review to probe delays in Craig Thomson inquiry
By Malcolm Farr, National Political Editor
news.com.au
February 15, 2012
4:46PM

Overall inquiry has taken three years
$400,000 just to speed the probe up

Thomson denies any wrongdoing

Slow moving inquiry into the Member for Dobell Craig Thomson
has already costs hundreds of thousands.

Picture: Ray Strange


MP Craig Thomson in the House of Representatives
in Parliament House in Canberra today.

Picture: Gary Ramage


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LABOR'S problem MP Craig Thomson today said he wanted the Fair Work Australia inquiry into him finished as soon as possible.

More than $400,000 has been spent since September trying to hurry
up the probe into the allegations, but the report is still at least a
month away.


He spoke out today to slam claims of political interference in the investigation
into his period as a (HEALTH SERVICES) union chief.


Mr Thomson said the claims were nonsense and had been countered by the
general manage of Fair Work Australia Bernadette O'Neill at a Senate
committee today.


"There is clearly no benefit for me or for the government
for this case to go on as long as it has," said Mr Thomson in a statement.


"From a personal point of view, the sooner the investigation is finished, the better."
Mr Thomson repeated that "I have done nothing wrong".

"I have fully cooperated with the investigations and I look forward to them concluding'" he said.

"I note that the only investigation to have already concluded, that of the
New South Wales Police, did not find any wrongdoing by me."


Directors of Fair Work Australia, which has been running the probe for more than
three years, today admitted there were "legitimate questions'' as to why
the inquiry has taken so long.

And they told consultants KPMG
would be holding an independent review of the investigation and the
"unreasonably long time" it has taken.

They tried to speed up matters late last year. About half of the $900,000 the inquiry
has been billed by the Solicitor-General for assistance in the inquiry went to
attempts to hasten finalisation of the report.

The admissions of tardiness are certain to be raised by the Opposition in Parliament.

However, directors of FWA told a Senate estimates committee the inquiry was
unprecedented and part of the delay was that one respondent to the
inquiry has not yet replied to a draft report. The directors said they
were unable to name any of the respondents for legal reasons as the
inquiry was still underway.

Since April, 2009, Fair Work Australia has been investigating claims, including alleged
misuse of credit cards for the payment of prostitutes, against Craig Thomson when
he was national secretary of the Health Services Union.

The Opposition is keen for a report to be finalised as an adverse finding
could lead to charges against the Labor member for Dobelle, and a
conviction force him out of Parliament. The Opposition also would
consider a vote of no confidence against the Government he was a member
of, based on an adverse finding.

The political sensitivity of the issue has added to pressure on FWA.

"I'm of the view that on the face of it the investigation has taken an
unreasonably long time," said FWA director Bernadette O'Neill today.

"And that that raises legitimate questions as to why it has taken so long."

Ms O'Neill said, "These investigations are unprecedented in terms of size
and scale and complexity and are unprecedented and only a very small
number have been undertaken. So I do think there are inevitably lessons
to be learned about the conduct of the investigations."

Another FWA director, Terry Nassios, acknowledged to the committee that the
investigators had indicated late last year the final report would be
ready in January.

"As at mid-October...I was working on a timeline that by mid-November those letters
(to respondents) would have been sent out," said Mr Nassios.

He
had thought the investigation would be over by November-December. But
he had "misjudged the quantity of material" needed for the letters. One
person still has
not responded and has until March 5 to do so.

He expected a final report in March, because "obviously there is some interconnection
between those responses and the final response".

Mr Nassios said the failed deadline became clear in early November.

"Half of the cost of this investigation has been expended from September
onwards in an attempt to finalise this as quickly as possible," he told
the committee.

"That is the expenditure with the Australian Government Solicitor.


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/review-to-probe-delays-in-thomson-inquiry/story-e6frfkp9-1226271523590#ixzz1mmtFu19Q

...now quick, spam this away with 'your' PRO-ICKE MARKETING,
as 'you' always do when the main stream of thinking society
starts talking about what I warned of years ago and that 'you' all
attacked me for caring to risk and pay so much, to do.
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Post  true lilly on Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:07 pm

"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO..."
was my first big thread showing THE GLOBAL PLOT,
that 'Ciggy & Co. = also my literal attackers', also
just had to, so stupidly, attack the facts of the evidence
that MADE MY CASE.

Well, here you go; 'YOUR' OWN SIDE'S LEADER,
ANNOUNCING I WAS RIGHT.

Bob Brown shows true colours
on a
New World Order
and
One World Government


http://youtu.be/Kuz46ohTicQ

Uploaded by 2wheels88 on Aug 19, 2011
Typically what most well intensioned Australians do not understand
when they vote green is that they are not voting for the environment
but a global scientific oppressive dictatorship.

Our sovereignty as a nation will no longer exist and our right
to vote for leaders will no longer exist.

If you listen to what British politicians are saying about the United Europe
is that they have a European President that is not democratically elected
and that is a small feature of a united world,except they often quote that
communist China should be the model on which this New World Order be
built. I don't know about you but I'm not prepared to give up our
constitution for one like China's.Think about it!!! This video
originally uploaded by youtube user wakeup2thelies I thank him for
bringing this to my attention,he has about 8000+ views but I feel many
more Aussies need to see and know what is being planned by these so
called greens. Our government is not listening to us, just the beginning
of the nightmare that could unfold.


(Note: the poster of this video seems to only have a 'worldly' 'understanding' of
The Really Big Picture, going by their lack of understanding of 'Who' 'China' ARE.)


Oh and remember, it was after YEARS of
"tintin/Ciggy/Cheeb and Co. et al",
FAILING TO COUNTER THE EVIDENCE
I posted, and FAILING TO FIND A
HUMAN SOURCE FOR THE THINGS
I DISCOVERED THROUGH THE STUDY
OF GOD'S WORD, that "tintin" got sent
to spy me out in my own home.

In those 3 weeks stay here, "tintin" also
DID DISCOVER that the ONLY 'Connection'
I have, is my LOVE and TRUST in
THE CREATOR GOD and HIS FAITHFUL WORD.

And so, the murderous violence against me,
was stepped up, in an effort to have me, AND
OTHERS, FEAR and COWER TO "Them",
instead of TRUSTING THE SAVING GRACE of GOD.

And sure, "they" may yet 'succeed' at ending my
mortal 'life', but if only one person comes to See
and Understand that what 'GREENS' BOB BROWN
is now GLOBALLY, PUBLICLY touting, IS WHAT
GOD WARNED US TO WATCH FOR, SO THAT WE
KNOW HE DOES EXIST, AND, KEEPS ALL HIS WORD,
then my imperfect mortal 'life' will not have been wasted.

Well of course, after Seeing and Understanding "they"
still have to choose to repent of man's Religions (like
the Religiously held beliefs in 'Green' PROPAGANDA),
and accept GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH, and sadly,
too many who DO See and Understand, still CHOOSE
to FIGHT TO THE DEATH, AGAINST THE CREATOR and
SAVIOUR of LIFE.
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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:59 am


Seventy years after the bombing of Darwin -
a magnificent way to recall a bloody day

Mike Hedge
The Daily Telegraph

February 20, 2012

12:36AM


Darwin bombing
Bombing a day of great signifi...

Darwin attack commemorated



Memorial ... Governor-General Quentin Bryce meets with veteran Richard Overheu after the service / Pic: Michael Franchi
Source: The Daily Telegraph


Watch
Bombing a day of great significance - GG
Quentin Bryce has described the day of the Darwin bombings as one of 'immense significance'.


Watch
Darwin attack commemorated

An air-raid siren will sound in Darwin this morning to mark 70 years since the Japanese attacks of the city.


Remembrance ... Prime Minister Julia Gillard lays a wreath at the Cenotaph / Pic: Michael Franchi
Source: The Daily Telegraph


CURIOUSLY, one of the first tunes played yesterday by the army band
at the 70th anniversary ceremony of the day the Japanese reduced Darwin
to rubble was Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.

To most of the 5000 or so who came to the city's cenotaph to
commemorate the first attack on Australia by a foreign force, the
choice of music didn't make the slightest difference - and, if it had,
they would probably have had a good laugh.


For the men and women who witnessed the bombing of Darwin
on February 19, 1942 - an attack that killed at least 243 people - and survived
the seven decades since, such things go down, at worst, as insignificant amusement.


Darwin blitz remembered 70 years on

Recommended Coverage

Darwin Bombing


"If you've been around for as long as I have, you're just thankful
to be here,"
said George Woodward, who was 18 and an army private on
the day the war came to Australia. "To be here today is a wonderful privilege."


Mr Woodward was one of about 90 veterans who returned to Darwin this week
for what many of them are fully aware could be their last anniversary of the bombing.


Eric Thompson, a naval officer who saw the Japanese attack, said while
the ranks of survivors were thinning, it was wonderful to see the Darwin public
acknowledging the significance of the day. "I look around and see faces I've seen
here over the years," he said. "I see a few not here as well."


Lieutenant-Commander Thompson, 98, a gunnery officer on HMAS Deloraine,
was one of the most popular people in Darwin in the past week. "It's fabulous
that they've done this," he said. "I won't forget the day."

The crowd at Darwin's cenotaph heard Governor-General Quentin Bryce
describe the day of the bombing as of "immense significance" and one of
the most important dates in Australia's history".


"Since 1788 Australia had been a child of Britain, dependent on Mother Empire
for protection," Ms Bryce said.


"Suddenly, on that fateful day, we were forced to grow up. Australia was under attack
and Britain couldn't help us."


It was also a day when Australia realised its security rested on the
cementing of an alliance with the US and one that began the realisation
Australia needed to dramatically increase its population.


Such realisation led to a new immigration policy transforming Australia's society
and economy.


Prime Minister Julia Gillard praised locals for their strength and
resilience and acknowledged the lack of national recognition of the
Japanese raids. "The bombing of Darwin was a terrible day in a terrible
war," she said. "Now the whole country will know it too."

_____________________________

Editor's Pick

Magnificent way to recall Darwin '42

CHOICE of music to commemorate anniversary
of bombing of Darwin didn't
make a difference
-
and, if it had, they'd probably have laughed


Gallery: The Darwin bombing

CURIOUSLY,
one of the first tunes played yesterday
by the army band
at the 70th anniversary ceremony of
the day the Japanese reduced Darwin to rubble
was
Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.


So, it DID or DIDN'T 'make a difference'?

DID they 'laugh' or NOT?

WHY 'mention it', LET ALONE 'REPORT' it,
when 'IF' and 'PROBABLY' were NEEDED
to 'excuse' 'laughing it off'.

____________________________

So, the Darwin Bombing Anniversary was YESTERDAY,
but, TODAY we're given these 2 (related?) headlines,
"on the same [front] page" of "The Telegraph".

Not surprising to me, considering that the PM and GG
chose that day to peddle THE ENEMIES PROPAGANDA
that we should DISHONOUR OUR 'MOTHER' and
REJECT OUR FATHER, WHO WARNED US NOT TO,
IF, we want our days ON THE LAND GOD GAVE US
to be long and good.

Exd 20:12
Honour 3513 thy father 1 and thy mother 517:
that thy days 3117 may be long 748 upon the land 127
which the LORD 3068 thy God 430 giveth 5414 thee.

Deu 5:16
Honour 3513 thy father 1 and thy mother 517,
as the LORD 3068 thy God 430 hath commanded 6680 thee;
that thy days 3117 may be prolonged 748,
and that it may go well 3190 with thee, in the land 127
which the LORD 3068 thy God 430 giveth 5414 thee.

Mat 15:4
For 1063 God 2316 commanded 1781, saying 3004,
Honour 5091 thy 4675 father 3962 and 2532 mother 3384:
and 2532, He that curseth 2551 father 3962 or 2228 mother 3384,
let him die 5053 the death 2288.
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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:35 am

true lilly wrote:
Seventy years after the bombing of Darwin -
a magnificent way to recall a bloody day



Oh,it's coming on like a freight train,last 120mg of Codeine.Finished being constipated this morning,I filled the toilet bowl with Boar Constrictor,an un-broken 35-40 inch turd.I was impressed.Oh,where were we?

Ahh,that's right.
As usual,we have a difference of opinion.I for one,would sit on Darwins beaches,waving welcome flags to our Imperial Overlords from that little volcanic rock of an Island,and free us from the tyranny of white suppression and learn to live with chop-sticks and Sushi.











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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:45 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Seventy years after the bombing of Darwin -
a magnificent way to recall a bloody day



Oh,it's coming on like a freight train,last 120mg of Codeine.Finished being constipated this morning,I filled the toilet bowl with Boar Constrictor,an un-broken 35-40 inch turd.I was impressed.Oh,where were we?

Ahh,that's right.
As usual,we have a difference of opinion.I for one,would sit on Darwins beaches,waving welcome flags to our Imperial Overlords from that little volcanic rock of an Island,and free us from the tyranny of white suppression and learn to live with chop-sticks and Sushi.













You know,it's all very nice,having national patriotism,but when you have a country,in Europe,Africa and the Pacific,like Australia was during World War Two,fighting the perils and tyranny of Fascism and Asian Imperialism,but conveniently forgetting,they themselves had in force,at that very moment,a doctrine back on home soil,called "The White Australia Policy",that John Howard attempted to bring back.

A violent and racist policy towards all immigrants of non-white Anglo backgrounds.

Our history is soaked in blood,repression and racism.Thankyou for your time.


Twisted Evil satan adolf



Need some smack rock,with a message...Flipper,is the answer.




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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:54 am

I fell for your last post trick and spam it out of existance.So I just answered one of my quotes with truth...that you hate the most.I spose you'll just have to spam 13 post now,I'm sure you can manage such feats of uncreativity.

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Post  MoMo on Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:49 am

le sabrage wrote:
el kabong wrote:Yoo Hoo, lilly willy, I notice you retain alot of anger, jealousy, envy, etc...........you must learn to overcome your ego and manifest lovingkindness to all, even those you feel have wronged you. thumbs up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbkbt8g2kSs&feature=fvst

http://www.shambhala.com/html/catalog/items/isbn/978-1-59030-332-0.cfm

Negative emotions have much to teach us about ourselves and our relationships with others and the world at large.

the consequences of malicious gossip, slander, and insults

cultivating humility as the middle path between pride and lack of self-
esteem

learning to rejoice in the happiness and success of others

knowing when it's better not to be nice

the proper way to correct or criticize others

living with ill-will and avoiding fights

forgiveness and reconciliation

turning your enemy into your best friend

cheers


The Torah recognizes one positive use of jealousy - be envious of the virtues in others. thumbs up

"Envy," according to Rabbi Bonder, is "a vampire who feeds not on his own vitality but on that of others." Like anger, gossip, and negative emotions, it "pollutes the heart." Instead of resenting the happiness of others, we can practice "farginen," a Yiddish word meaning making a pact with another person's pleasure or success.

"Envy is the most abstract form of rage." (4) There is a
sense to Bonder that the conflict here is between "I" and the "other." In this sense his thesis takes on the elements not only of
Buber but also of what we have seen regarding Eastern thought. He will speak later of the importance of dialogic
communication to break the chains forged by this powerful enslaver. He makes an interesting point in the Introduction in
speaking of the Ten Commandments. Why is it that the last commandment deals with envy or coveting? "The Rabbi of Radvil
explained: 'This is the last of the Commandments because he who fulfills it will certainly have complied with the rest.'" (5)

Bonder next talks about the power of envy by repeating a story from the Talmud. In it Moses had asked God why he had to
die, and God explained it was because he had already named Joshua to lead the people. Moses then tried to persuade both
Joshua and God that if he could live he would be content with not being in charge. Finally God agreed. But the first time
Joshua entered the Holy of Holies and Moses could not enter Moses prayed for death saying., "A hundred deaths are
preferable to the pain of envy." This gives us some idea of the pain and power of envy, but probably most of us do not need it
pointed out. The problem as Bonder says is that it often does not just come at the end of our life where it can so easily be
avoided. The author then establishes the purpose of the book as "not so much a study of the pathology of envy as it is a guide
to how to live with it." (11) That study will involve ancient as well as modern techniques.

Envy and all that relates to it, more than any other emotions, enslaves us to another person. Rabbi Zalmon Shachter-Shalomi,
(he lectures at the Naropa Institute in Boulder), is quoted as describing Envy as the "Poker-game syndrome." Winning in this
game depends on another's loss, and it is even better if one wins by bluffing. The goal therefore is not so much a personal
victory, but an opponents defeat. Each player tries to hide what he has from his opponent. Envy turns its slave into a heartless
predator.

The second chapter deals with envy and how it relates to other worlds. These other worlds are a Kabbalistic idea. These four
worlds will be discussed in a little more detail later, but suffice it to say that they represent a composite of who we are. They
represent the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual dimensions. They are essentially overlays. Perhaps I can draw an
analogy based on my teaching photography in journalism. I had a four color separation that I would show to my students.
As the layers of red, yellow, and green were successively laid down, the picture would begin to look better and better, but it
wasn’t until the final layer of black was overlaid that the picture really looked sharp. It was also shown to them the
importance of aligning them just right or the picture comes out blurry. So too are the worlds. When things seem distorted we
are not in proper alignment to them. Bonder's explanation is as follows, "These worlds, coexistent and superimposed on one
another, serve to transport mundane events, starting with the most concrete, into more subtle dimensions of reality. In addition
to the four worlds effects on anger, there is also a cumulative effect. Just as small doses of something behave in one way while
cumulatively they can be altered in nature, so too hatred. Bonder gives many examples in the form of midrashic stories, but I
imagine we have had first hand experience with a small anger being left to fester and growing way out of proportion. One
interesting note is that the majority of stories have to do with problems of borrowing and lending. I suspect in some way or
other that is the cause of most anger and frustration today as well. Our whole economic structure is built around breaking the
wise axium, "neither a borrower nor a lender be." I have railed against Capitalism before and I will do it again. This is a
system that uses greed and avarice as its fuel and its inevitable by-product is envy, anger and frustration. This represents the
worlds out of balance.

There is a long section on the four worlds relationship to this topic. Condensed: hatred, voraciousness greed and slander exist
in the out of balance world of the physical -- Asiyah. Hatred turns into revenge, pride, jealousy, and talebearing in the
emotional world of Yetzirah. It continues to grow into feuding, envy, arragance and an evil tongue as it passes into the mental
Beriah. And finally karma, skepticism, and heresy are the result of hatred in the spiritual world of Atzilut. I think this is the main
point for Bonder in his trying to present a plan of action for defeating envy. We may not be able to control our physical natures
easily, but we can recognize the warning signs and stop the progress before it reaches our spirits. I want to present this in
another way to make certain that Bonder's point is made. The following is the progression of hatred and its fellows:
ASIYAH YETZIRAH BERIAH ATZILUT
HATRED REVENGE FEUDING KARMA
GREED PRIDE ARROGANCE SKEPTICISM
VORACITY JEALOUSY ENVY SKEPTICISM
SLANDER TALE-BEARING EVIL TONGUE HERESY

While the ultimate goal is to eliminate the problem before it starts at the physical level, the starting point is to try to halt its
progress. One of the most important places to start is with pride. There is much written about this, but Bonder makes several
interesting points. One is that humility is not the opposite of pride; lack of self-esteem is. "Humility is the point of equilibrium."
(36) One of the dangers of pride is that it can disguise itself as personal growth. According to Rabbi Mendel Libavitser,
"There is no worse pride than the pride of the pious." And according to Bonder, "Of all the types of pride, the pride of a
person who thinks he is growing as a human being is the worst." (37) The sad thing is that this goes to the heart of the self-
improvement movement. It becomes just another possession that if you spend enough money you can "possess" goodness
and maturity "They want to possess growth as one possesses a diploma, instead of living it and enduring the pangs that are an
intrinsic part of growth." Bonder uses a great analogy that pride represents a negative sign, so that no matter how many
points you gather towards enlightenment, pride instantly turns the number into a negative . The solution to pride is humility.

Proverbs 22:4 says, "The effect of humility is fear of the Lord, wealth, honor, and life." Bonder equates humility with the fear
of God. He uses many texts to prove his point, but let me try and apply this to those who may have a difficult time with the
notion of God. The point is that we must fear or respect something that is far removed from the physical plane. The effect of
that is to move us past the concern for how we appear to others. Ghandi is a great example of humility. Of course we can not
all instantly achieve his status, but if we could set men like him rather then many of the actors, or sports figures or politicians or
even self-help gurus that we tend to idolize, we would at least be moving in the right direction. So fear does not mean fear of
retribution, but rather fear that we will somehow disappoint whatever god we choose to put into that position, and unless that
god is truly worthy of emulating, we will get our desire and become just like him or her to our Karmic destruction. We must
choose whom we fear carefully and then we must be willing to live our lives in service to that choice as if he or she were right
there with us at every moment. I just read an example of this from the book Ghandi. Gopal Krishna Gokhale was a leader in
the Indian nationalist movement and very well respected in his own right. He said of Ghandi, "In Ghandi's presence, one is
ashamed to do anything unworthy….afraid of thinking anything unworthy." (44) This would be classified as the fear of Ghandi.

OK, I have to move on or I will never get this finished. In chapter 3, "Reasons For Hate," Bonder discusses some of the
emotional and physical situations we get into that causes hatred or rancor to grow. One of the main reasons is differences.
We tend to love and easily forgive those who we perceive as close to us, and close off those who are different. To overcome
this we must first learn to love ourself, "All love begins with loving oneself and then seeing in others…different people who
are part of us. The important thing to note here, is that we are not called to defy our nature by forcing ourselves to love those
who are not connected with us in some way. The trick is to fool our nature by expanding the realm of those we see as our
family. Again, as Bonder puts it, "Personal growth occurs not out of an attempt to love non-children/siblings or
disciples/friends, nor from the expectation of betraying our natures, but from a constant review of who we are." (50)

Bonder next discusses humiliation. We have seen that come up so many times before that I wont spend any time with it here
except to say that it is a vital part of our growth to put that behind us. I was watching television the other day and I saw a
commercial for America's Funniest Home Videos. That show, and going all the way back to Alan Funt's Candid Camera
shows off our love for seeing others humiliated. Even the so called "Reality Shows" that are so popular today are built at the
expense of someone else's pride. Another example of humiliation is gossip. This has often caused great grief, and again, I don't
think that needs defending, but as to how to combat it. Bonder quotes Reb Israel Meir who came up with a formula for when
criticism, (Often a dressed up word we use for slander or gossip), is constructive:
1.Evidence of dishonesty or faults must be obtained by the person who makes
the criticism and not by way of rumors he has heard.
2. The person who criticizes must be cautious and reflect deeply on the matter, to
to be sure that this is an instance of an incorrect attitude.
3. He must then privately censure the person who committed the error, without
creating a furor and in a nonthreatening manner, showing his expectation
that the behavior in question will be changed. If this does not occur, then
he may make the case public.

4. He should never make the offense appear greater than it is.
5. He should try to understand his own motives and be sure he is not criticizing
the other for personal reasons.
6. If there is any other way to avoid slandering the other, he should first
resort to that method.
7. As a result of his action, he should not bring upon the criticized individual
a punishment greater than that proffered by a court if the case were to
be judged.
In addition to all this, a person who publicly slanders someone should himself
be honest and not guilty of the same type of crimes or faults for which he is criticizing
the other. (65-66)

Well, there goes our legal system.

Slander and humiliation invades the other's privacy and space. This is also something we should consider. We need to be
careful of another's space, and if ours is invaded we need to question whether or not we actually left enough room for the
other to avoid interfering. Bonder put it nicely when he said, "When people step on our toes, many times they do it because
we have left no other space for them to stand, except on our own feet. " (69) So what is the answer here? We must strive to
allow other's their space and understand what our own space looks like. When we are criticized or think we are, we need to
be very careful to really understand where the arrow is coming from and where it was really intended to go.

Bonder starts off the next section entitled, "Quarreling," with a great Yiddish proverb, "If the heart is bitter, nothing will
sweeten the mouth." (75) Essentially what Bonder talks about in the first section is that we generally have the greatest quarrels
or feuds with those who are closest to us and most often the quarrel is over something that the quarreler hates about himself.
According to the Maggid of Mezeritz, "Do not be discouraged by strong opposition. Robbers attack those who carry jewels,
not carts carrying fertilizer." (76) What a great illustration. If we could think to ourselves every time someone picks a fight
with us that we should be flattered that this person sees us as worthy to try and rob from. We should be flattered. If we could
truly feel that way, what kind of response do you think that would engender? I would venture to guess it would be completely
different from our normal response. Another suggestion Bonder makes for ending what may seem impossible feuds is taken
from the story of Jacob's wrestling with the Angel. I will assume you know the story, so I wont repeat it, but there are a few
interesting insights that Bonder has. Jacob was about to meet Esau and this is a classic feud story, but before he met him,
Jacob dreamt he wrestled with an Angel who was actually God. We must recognize that when we quarrel with someone, we
are actually quarreling with God, but we often avoid that fight. We shouldn't. It is only by wrestling with God or our innermost
self that we can bring about change. That change may turn us inside out or create in us a whole new person with a different
name, (Jacob to Israel), but it beats the alternative which is being beaten down by our demons of rage. There is another
interesting point that the author makes. "Jacob had come to a river whose name is an anagram formed by the inversion of the
letters of his own name (J-c-b; J-b-c )." (83) We must often turn our way of looking at things around in order to see who
we really should be fighting with. It is interesting that God seems to encourage us then to fight with him rather than others. Even
the name Israel which was to became a great and glorious name means "he who fights with God." One of the fringe benefits of
fighting with God is that it could keep us from falling into the trap of believing that you are absolutely right and your opponent
(God) is absolutely wrong. Bonder tells a story that illustrates the point, "Judge not lest you be judged." But I prefer to think
about that in the light of another story that essentially says that when we stand before God, every word of judgement that we
spoke about others will be used to sentence ourselves. Scary thought. One of the keys here is to always, always doubt the
things we believe are certain when we are angry, and never argue by criticizing others or justifying ourselves. We must be very
careful whenever we feel we are right because, "Being right lies on a tenuous line between true worship and idol worship."
(89) There is a belief that when we truly learn to engage in dialogue that the Messiah will come. So how can we have
legitimate differences of opinion with another person? We must always respect our opponent and (this is a great key) "He
must reach the complex stage of knowing he is not right, but being certain he is not wrong." That takes some contemplation,
but it soon proves to be a powerful insight into how to argue dialogically. While this can help us when we are in the midst of
conflict, Bonder's next chapter will talk about avoidance.

One of the first ways to avoid conflict is learning to see each situation clearly. I have heard the story that Bonder tells here
before, but I love it and I think it's worth repeating:
The king visited the royal prison and spoke with the prisoners. Each who
Approached vowed his innocence, except for one prisoner, who confessed
to being a thief. "Get this scoundrel out of here!" exclaimed the king. "He
will corrupt the innocent!" (95)

It is no accident that one of the physical characteristics of anger is squinting the eyes. If we could see clearly we would most
likely not be angry. Just as in the last paper, we talked about hearing what was not said, so too must we be able to see what
may not be obviously visible. This is the stuff of prophets and holy men which is available to each and everyone of us. Bonder
puts it succinctly when he says, "Prophecy comes from a wise person's ability to keep his eyes open when everyone else's are
closed." (98) Most of us when confronted with a child who does outrageous things can react with patience and
understanding. This is a child after all. I remember one time I was disciplining my daughter and she flew into a rage and started
yelling and screaming and telling me that she hated me. I didn't react back with anger, I knew she didn't mean those things. I
let her spend her anger, then we talked, and then we hugged, and it was over. Had I been confronted with that kind of anger
from an adult, I doubt I would have been as forgiving. But that's the problem. Bonder talks about the Rabbinic concept of
tinok she-nishbah which is a captive child that does not know of his origin. This child must be treated with extreme patience
and forgiveness. When we are greeted with anger we must learn to develop an understanding that the person before us is a
tinok she-nishbah. I have been doing some reading about dealing with the inner child and the bottom line seems to be that
Bonder's assessment here and the concepts he quotes have a very solid basis psychologically. Each one of us has that inner-
child, and I would venture to say that for a number of us, diagnosed or not, that child has never really been nurtured. Is it any
wonder that conflicts exist. At least with my girls, they have the assurance, proven time and again, that I love them
unconditionally and the bonus is that they have returned that unconditional love to me. There are many who have never had
that assurance. The goal of most religions is to provide that assurance on a spiritual level, but we must truly accept it. So what
Bonder is saying here as a way to avoid conflict is that we must identify the child in others (as well as ourselves) and treat them
as a LOVING parent. What this does is allow an "other" the space to grow. Bonder gives us a great Yiddish verb farginen
which means "to open space, to share pleasure; it is the exact opposite of the verb to envy." (104) It is much easier to grieve
with someone then to rejoice with them. To farginen someone takes discipline and practice. But I offer again the analogy of
seeing in the other not only a child, but your child. I feel no envy when my girls succeed, only pride. It is easy to farginen your
own child or disciple so the trick is to expand your definition of who is your family. Christianity teaches in the words of Jesus
and I am paraphrasing since I no longer have a Christian Bible, Who is my mother…I tell you that anyone who does the will of
God is my mother and father and sister and brother."

Know the example I gave earlier of my daughter's anger came out of discipline or rebuke that I made. Bonder in the next
section gives us another way to avoid conflict by understanding how to offer correction that avoids rancor or conflict. The
heart of his proposal comes from Leviticus 19:17 that juxtaposes two concepts in one verse. "Do not hate your brother in your
heart…certainly you shall rebuke your neighbor and not suffer sin upon him." The implication here is twofold; one, not
criticizing another is equal to hatred of the other and two, when we criticize, it cannot be with any kind of hatred or dislike for
the other. If either you or the other is unprepared for the criticism, you must not give it. I must apologize now for the length of
this journal. Bonder uses so many wonderful stories in his book, and I have tried not to repeat most of them, but I find some
that are just too good not to repeat. So I apologize for making you read so much. Well here goes. This is from another of the
many great Rabbis who lived around the 18th century, Rabbi Meir:
Once, a lion decided not to seek food until his breath was sweeter. He found a
Mule and said to him, "Put your head near my mouth and tell me if my breath
Is sweet." The mule did so and responded negatively.
"How dare he insult me?" exclaimed the king of beasts and immediately
devoured the mule.
Some days later, the lion met up with a wolf and put the same question to him.
The wolf answered in the affirmative. "How dare you lie to me?" roared the lion, and devoured him at once.
Some time later, he questioned a fox, an animal that does not let himself get mixed up in complicated situations. "Excuse me,"
said the fox. "I have a cold and have lost my sense of smell."
"Get yourselves a cold as well," said Rabbi Meir to his disciples, "and you will be saved from the lion." (111)
http://www.joyfulltimes.com/Kabbalah/KabbalahEnvy_Zelig.html

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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:44 pm


Darwin: Talking heads chat in minute's silence

THE Governor-General Quentin Bryce and the Prime Minister
Julia Gillard have both been accused of talking through the minute's
silence during the memorial for the 70th anniversary of the Bombing of
Darwin.


Punters started commenting on the NT News Facebook page after other readers
had complained directly to this paper about Ms Bryce.


Heather Malcolm said she saw both the ladies talking.

In agreement was Alana Chapman who said she saw Ms Bryce and Ms Gillard
talking and said they should be able to show respect and not talk.


Others agreed.

"She was talking to the Prime Minister. Very disgraceful and disrespectful,"
Darren Becker said.


Your Say

"Put two chicks next to each other and they'll fill a silence. Probably discussing shoes."
Glen


"Yep. Saw them talking, very disrespectful," Jenn Cameron said.

Debbie Holland joked about the Prime Minister's troubled reign.
"Maybe she was asking Julia if she wanted an appointment at the lodge
to dissolve parliament,"
she said.


While Haley Roddy said there were a lot of people talking through it.
"Not good,"
she said.


Amy Thompson lamented a trend.
"Seems to be the norm these days, the number of parents I see
talking their way through our national anthem at school assembly every week,"
she said.

"No bloody wonder the kids have no respect."

But Dimity Jessup said she didn't see the Governor-General or the Prime
Minister talking however there were many behind her talking, with phones
ringing.


The NT News put call into the offices of both the Governor-General and and Prime Minister but received no response.


Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Governor-General Quentin Bryce

at the Bombing of Darwin ceremony on the Esplanade.
Picture: PATRINA
MALONE
1
Woe to you who are despoiling,
without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously,
without [others] having dealt treacherously with you!
As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled.
As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.


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Post  true lilly on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:10 am


We're the great foreign (owned) land
FARMERS and politicians are sounding the alarm
as foreign companies "secretly"
buy up large chunks of NSW farmland.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-government-buying-up-our-farms/story-e6freuzr-1225881085302

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WE NEED NATIONAL ACTION,TRUE LILLY SOLD US TO THE CHINESE

Post  Billy Ruben on Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:21 pm

true lilly wrote:
We're the great foreign (owned) land
FARMERS and politicians are sounding the alarm
as foreign companies "secretly"
buy up large chunks of NSW farmland.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-government-buying-up-our-farms/story-e6freuzr-1225881085302



Well,isn't that what you've been advising the world to do,move here and buy up the land and real estate,now that you've achieved your aim,you want to whinge about it????

Make up your mind,Suzy Schizoid Ryan,make up your fucking mind.

Don't think to many "True Blue Aussies",unlike dago imports like you,will thankyou for this.

I'm emailing "National Action" and giving them your details.

You're a traitor to Australia and it's people,be ashamed Suzy Ryan,for shame.Bow your head...


dizzy dizzy dizzy dizzy



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SUZY RYAN/TRUE LILLY IS AN AGENT OF CHINA

Post  Billy Ruben on Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:26 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
We're the great foreign (owned) land
FARMERS and politicians are sounding the alarm
as foreign companies "secretly"
buy up large chunks of NSW farmland.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-government-buying-up-our-farms/story-e6freuzr-1225881085302



Well,isn't that what you've been advising the world to do,move here and buy up the land and real estate,now that you've achieved your aim,you want to whinge about it????

Make up your mind,Suzy Schizoid Ryan,make up your fucking mind.

Don't think to many "True Blue Aussies",unlike dago imports like you,will thankyou for this.

I'm emailing "National Action" and giving them your details.

You're a traitor to Australia and it's people,be ashamed Suzy Ryan,for shame.Bow your head...


dizzy dizzy dizzy dizzy



Go and look in Cessnock,all the signs for the mines are in Chinese.

You raved on about the "KIng Of The North" (China) for years and they took notice,then read your other post and bought the fucking minerals from under our feet.

You sold us out.

You allowed the King Of the North to gain a foothold.

YOU SUZY RYAN ARE THE GREATEST TRAITOR TO AUSTRALIA THAT EVER EXISTED !!!!

Go put your head in the gas oven,SHAME ON YOU !!!!!



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tHE kING OF THE NORTH (CHINA) IS WATCHING

Post  Billy Ruben on Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:32 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
We're the great foreign (owned) land
FARMERS and politicians are sounding the alarm
as foreign companies "secretly"
buy up large chunks of NSW farmland.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-government-buying-up-our-farms/story-e6freuzr-1225881085302



Well,isn't that what you've been advising the world to do,move here and buy up the land and real estate,now that you've achieved your aim,you want to whinge about it????

Make up your mind,Suzy Schizoid Ryan,make up your fucking mind.

Don't think to many "True Blue Aussies",unlike dago imports like you,will thankyou for this.

I'm emailing "National Action" and giving them your details.

You're a traitor to Australia and it's people,be ashamed Suzy Ryan,for shame.Bow your head...


dizzy dizzy dizzy dizzy



Go and look in Cessnock,all the signs for the mines are in Chinese.

You raved on about the "KIng Of The North" (China) for years and they took notice,then read your other post and bought the fucking minerals from under our feet.

You sold us out.

You allowed the King Of the North to gain a foothold.

YOU SUZY RYAN ARE THE GREATEST TRAITOR TO AUSTRALIA THAT EVER EXISTED !!!!

Go put your head in the gas oven,SHAME ON YOU !!!!!



Razz wacky dizzy aaargh


SEE...I TOLD YOU,THE KING IS WATCHING...THANKS ALOT,TRAITOR.

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Post  daddlepoms on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:12 pm

whites or blacks aren't the problem but women are gonna get hit the hardest, children are on the outs cuz they've already taken their beating
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Post  true lilly on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:41 pm

WA to get fetal homicide laws




OFFENDERS who kill an unborn child
by assaulting a pregnant mother
or
by dangerous driving
face a life sentence
under historic new laws.
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Post  daddlepoms on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:54 pm

true lilly wrote:WA to get fetal homicide laws




OFFENDERS who kill an unborn child
by assaulting a pregnant mother
or
by dangerous driving
face a life sentence
under historic new laws.

smoke & mirrors

the real story their trying to cover is the legalization of prostitution
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Post  daddlepoms on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:56 pm

besides, when you're a local mafia & you do this it seems all you get is honorable mention at the bars & a free drink
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Re: SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!

Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:25 am

K-Federino wrote:
true lilly wrote:WA to get fetal homicide laws




OFFENDERS who kill an unborn child
by assaulting a pregnant mother
or
by dangerous driving
face a life sentence
under historic new laws.

smoke & mirrors

the real story their trying to cover is the legalization of prostitution

Well,it is,if it's in a brothel.
But out on the street,is a big no,no....
Although the rates are higher,in a brothel,most are screened for STD's,so you DO get value for money.
I checked out a few girls,at $500 an hour,but they are'nt low level,gulp and blows,$800 for two hours is what I'd go for.Brunette models,it still worked out cheaper,than most high class bars,with drinks,get to drunk and can't get it up.Where,if I take some marijuana,Codeine or stay awake pills,I can last for hours,so it evens itself out,without puking and the sensitivities of the act are heightened under the influence of drugs.So,a memorable experience it would be."Touch Of Class",things like that.Not that shithole in Taree,called Wagtails,full of things that you'd find in a barn-yard,bored farmers wives looking for spare change and a few well masked junkies who use their legs or necks to shoot up...
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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:46 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
K-Federino wrote:
true lilly wrote:WA to get fetal homicide laws




OFFENDERS who kill an unborn child
by assaulting a pregnant mother
or
by dangerous driving
face a life sentence
under historic new laws.

smoke & mirrors

the real story their trying to cover is the legalization of prostitution

Well,it is,if it's in a brothel.
But out on the street,is a big no,no....
Although the rates are higher,in a brothel,most are screened for STD's,so you DO get value for money.
I checked out a few girls,at $500 an hour,but they are'nt low level,gulp and blows,$800 for two hours is what I'd go for.Brunette models,it still worked out cheaper,than most high class bars,with drinks,get to drunk and can't get it up.Where,if I take some marijuana,Codeine or stay awake pills,I can last for hours,so it evens itself out,without puking and the sensitivities of the act are heightened under the influence of drugs.So,a memorable experience it would be."Touch Of Class",things like that.Not that shithole in Taree,called Wagtails,full of things that you'd find in a barn-yard,bored farmers wives looking for spare change and a few well masked junkies who use their legs or necks to shoot up...


But of course,there's a much cheaper variant...a willing and consenting hand,a few crayons and a great imagination.





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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:14 am

true lilly wrote:
Darwin: Talking heads chat in minute's silence

THE Governor-General Quentin Bryce and the Prime Minister
Julia Gillard have both been accused of talking through the minute's
silence during the memorial for the 70th anniversary of the Bombing of
Darwin.


Punters started commenting on the NT News Facebook page after other readers
had complained directly to this paper about Ms Bryce.


Heather Malcolm said she saw both the ladies talking.

In agreement was Alana Chapman who said she saw Ms Bryce and Ms Gillard
talking and said they should be able to show respect and not talk.


Others agreed.

"She was talking to the Prime Minister. Very disgraceful and disrespectful,"
Darren Becker said.


Your Say

"Put two chicks next to each other and they'll fill a silence. Probably discussing shoes."
Glen


"Yep. Saw them talking, very disrespectful," Jenn Cameron said.

Debbie Holland joked about the Prime Minister's troubled reign.
"Maybe she was asking Julia if she wanted an appointment at the lodge
to dissolve parliament,"
she said.


While Haley Roddy said there were a lot of people talking through it.
"Not good,"
she said.


Amy Thompson lamented a trend.
"Seems to be the norm these days, the number of parents I see
talking their way through our national anthem at school assembly every week,"
she said.

"No bloody wonder the kids have no respect."

But Dimity Jessup said she didn't see the Governor-General or the Prime
Minister talking however there were many behind her talking, with phones
ringing.


The NT News put call into the offices of both the Governor-General and and Prime Minister but received no response.


Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Governor-General Quentin Bryce

at the Bombing of Darwin ceremony on the Esplanade.
Picture: PATRINA
MALONE
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Woe to you who are despoiling,
without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously,
without [others] having dealt treacherously with you!
As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled.
As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.


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true lilly wrote:Whose number is up?
As the moment approaches when
federal Labor MPs will decide the leadership,
we test the mood in Canberra.
FULL coverage on the Rudd vs Gillard battle.


Perfect still of Gillard there,I'll meditate on that at sexual climax.

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K-Federino wrote:
true lilly wrote:WA to get fetal homicide laws




OFFENDERS who kill an unborn child
by assaulting a pregnant mother
or
by dangerous driving
face a life sentence
under historic new laws.

smoke & mirrors

the real story their trying to cover is the legalization of prostitution

Well,it is,if it's in a brothel.
But out on the street,is a big no,no....
Although the rates are higher,in a brothel,most are screened for STD's,so you DO get value for money.
I checked out a few girls,at $500 an hour,but they are'nt low level,gulp and blows,$800 for two hours is what I'd go for.Brunette models,it still worked out cheaper,than most high class bars,with drinks,get to drunk and can't get it up.Where,if I take some marijuana,Codeine or stay awake pills,I can last for hours,so it evens itself out,without puking and the sensitivities of the act are heightened under the influence of drugs.So,a memorable experience it would be."Touch Of Class",things like that.Not that shithole in Taree,called Wagtails,full of things that you'd find in a barn-yard,bored farmers wives looking for spare change and a few well masked junkies who use their legs or necks to shoot up...


But of course,there's a much cheaper variant...a willing and consenting hand,a few crayons and a great imagination.







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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:20 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
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We're the great foreign (owned) land
FARMERS and politicians are sounding the alarm
as foreign companies "secretly"
buy up large chunks of NSW farmland.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-government-buying-up-our-farms/story-e6freuzr-1225881085302



Well,isn't that what you've been advising the world to do,move here and buy up the land and real estate,now that you've achieved your aim,you want to whinge about it????

Make up your mind,Suzy Schizoid Ryan,make up your fucking mind.

Don't think to many "True Blue Aussies",unlike dago imports like you,will thankyou for this.

I'm emailing "National Action" and giving them your details.

You're a traitor to Australia and it's people,be ashamed Suzy Ryan,for shame.Bow your head...


dizzy dizzy dizzy dizzy



Go and look in Cessnock,all the signs for the mines are in Chinese.

You raved on about the "KIng Of The North" (China) for years and they took notice,then read your other post and bought the fucking minerals from under our feet.

You sold us out.

You allowed the King Of the North to gain a foothold.

YOU SUZY RYAN ARE THE GREATEST TRAITOR TO AUSTRALIA THAT EVER EXISTED !!!!

Go put your head in the gas oven,SHAME ON YOU !!!!!



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SEE...I TOLD YOU,THE KING IS WATCHING...THANKS ALOT,TRAITOR.

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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:48 am

Brazil: Fire at Antarctic base kills two
February 26, 2012 (10:17PM)
The Brazilian naval base in Antarctica. Pic/AFP Source: AFP

A FIRE at Brazil's research station
in Antarctica killed two navy personnel
and forced the evacuation by
helicopter of 44 people.

The blaze broke out in the morning in the machine room that houses
the energy generators of the Comandante Ferraz station, the navy said in
an emailed statement.


Two navy officials at the base died
and
a third was injured in the fire
,


Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff's
office said in a statement.


Rousseff's office said the base would be reconstructed.

The navy statement said that 44 people at the station at the time of the fire
were transferred to Chile's Eduardo Frei station
.


In a second statement, the navy said efforts to extinguish the fire were
suspended because of bad weather
. The firefighting crew was evacuated
to the Chilean base
and will return once the weather improves.


Chile's Defence Minister Andres Allamand told reporters the fire had
"completely destroyed" the base.
O Estado de S. Paulo
newspaper quoted an unnamed official of the Brazilian navy
saying the same thing.


A navy spokesman said those reports were "unfounded" and that as soon as
the weather improves "we will evaluate the damage the fire caused to the
station's structure."


Separately, he confirmed a report
posted on the O Estado de S. Paulo's website that
a barge carrying diesel oil to the station sank
during a storm in December.


According to the newspaper, the barge was carrying 10,000 litres of diesel in its
storage tank when it capsized and sank some 900 metres from Comandante Ferraz.


No one was on the barge as it was being towed by four small vessels
from Brazilian navy ships to the base, which started operations in 1984.


So far, none of the fuel has leaked and two ships are expected to reach the site in
about a week to try to bring the barge to the surface before any leaks occur,
the newspaper said without revealing how it obtained the information.

February 26, 2012
Brazil: Fire at Antarctic base kills two
Labor is burning the village - Xenophon
INDEPENDENT Senator Nick Xenophon says
the Federal Labor leadership tussle is bizarre.
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Darwin: Talking heads chat in minute's silence

THE Governor-General Quentin Bryce and
the Prime Minister Julia Gillard have both
been accused of talking through the minute's silence
during the memorial for
the 70th anniversary of the Bombing of Darwin.


Punters started commenting on the NT News Facebook page after other readers
had complained directly to this paper about Ms Bryce.


Heather Malcolm said she saw both the ladies talking.

In agreement was Alana Chapman who said she saw Ms Bryce and Ms Gillard
talking and said they should be able to show respect and not talk.


Others agreed.

"She was talking to the Prime Minister. Very disgraceful and disrespectful,"
Darren Becker said.


Your Say

"Put two chicks next to each other and they'll fill a silence. Probably discussing shoes."
Glen


"Yep. Saw them talking, very disrespectful," Jenn Cameron said.

Debbie Holland joked about the Prime Minister's troubled reign.
"Maybe she was asking Julia if she wanted an appointment at the lodge
to dissolve parliament,"
she said.


While Haley Roddy said there were a lot of people talking through it.
"Not good,"
she said.


Amy Thompson lamented a trend.
"Seems to be the norm these days, the number of parents I see
talking their way through our national anthem at school assembly every week,"
she said.

"No bloody wonder the kids have no respect."

But Dimity Jessup said she didn't see the Governor-General or the Prime
Minister talking however there were many behind her talking, with phones
ringing.


The NT News put call into the offices of both the Governor-General and and Prime Minister but received no response.


Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Governor-General Quentin Bryce

at the Bombing of Darwin ceremony on the Esplanade.
Picture: PATRINA
MALONE
1
Woe to you who are despoiling,
without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously,
without [others] having dealt treacherously with you!
As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled.
As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.


Isaiah 33
Whose number is up?
As the moment approaches when
federal Labor MPs will decide the leadership,
we test the mood in Canberra.
FULL coverage on the Rudd vs Gillard battle.
Brazil: Fire at Antarctic base kills two
Labor is burning the village - Xenophon
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Wanna Spam war,Ok,persistant fucktard,I'm evil and black tonight,you're gonna get my demonic side,enjoy the company of devils and the attention,tonight,we feast upon soul,I've had my B-grade blowjob to feed the portal,conceived in hate.

"You have had all that money can give you, but that wasn't
enough. You became a thrill-seeker. Kill for the thrill.
(assassin) This thrill-seeking became the one great thing in
your life, planning one thrill on another until the murder. Kill
for the love of killing. (guilty) Kill for the thrill. The
thrill-seeker comes from all walks of life. He comes from the
home, a home where the parents are to busy to treat their children
with respect."

Die! Die! Die! Die!
Scum-suckers! Debility divulged!
Anal fuck-fest, thrill Olympics
Savage scourge supply and sanctify
So what? So what?
So what? So what?
Die! Die! Die! Die!

Die! Die! Die! Die!
You said it!
Sedatives supplied become laxatives
My eyes shit out lies
I only kill to know I'm alive
So what? So what?
So what? So what?
Die! Die! Die! Die!

"Kill for the thrill. (assassin) Some people think newspapers
exaggerate juvenile crime. All that is defined mostly to the
large cities, juvenile delinquency is underlined. Thus parents
think something is going wrong with the environment. Adults
create the world, children live it. Juvenile delinquency is
always rooted in adult delinquency. And in this process, parents
play the key role when children grow up among adults who refuse
to recognize anything that is fine and good, or worthy of
respect."

Die! Die! Die! Die!
So what, it's your own problem to learn to live with
Destroy us, or make us slaves
We don't care, it's not our fault that we were born too late
A screaming headache on the promised age
Killing time is appropriate
To make a mess and fuck all the rest, we say, we say
So what? So what?
So what? So what?
Die!

Die!
Now that I know what it's like,
I'll kill them all if I like
Only time will decide
No one listened to reason,
it's too late and I'm ready to fight
So what? Now I'm ready to fight!
I'm ready to fight! [x4]
Fight! [x4]
So What? [x6]


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
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What are you worried about,The Lord God Of OzTrailer is by your imaginery side


Invocation to Satan



AVE SATANA!

Hail, Satan,
Lord of Darkness,
King of Hell,
Ruler of the Earth,
God of this World!

God Who invites us to become as gods!
Muse of our civilization,
Dread Enemy of its tyrant god!
Satan, mighty Liberator,
Bearer of true Light!

God of our flesh,
God of our minds,
God of our innermost Will!

O mighty Lord Satan,
teach us to become strong and wise!
Teach us to vanquish the enemies
of our freedom and well-being!

REGE SATANA!


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu








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PRAYER FOR GUIDANCE



Teach me, Lord Satan, the knowledge of the ages

Guide me in thy wisdom

Let me feel thy presence and experience what you have for me

Don’t let me be bound by irrefutable doctrines

But lead me to true freedom

Give me the strength to leave my comfort zone

To explore that which is forbidden by those who believe they are wise

Take away the fear that binds me

Set me on my true path

But if you don’t think I am ready, let it be as a sunrise

Allow me to see your light as well as your darkness

The fullness of who you are

Satan, Melek Taus, Lucifer, Azazel

If I could have anything, it would be to know your truth

To believe in what is real

Not in someone else’s insanity

So as I walk down this narrow road

Don’t let me be discouraged

As it is you who have placed me upon it





BESTOW UPON ME SATAN



Bestow upon me, Satan, the characteristics of the Dragon

Overwhelming strength, vanquishing all weakness

Uncompromising power, to manifest my will

A fierce presence, in the face of my enemies

Dreadfully protective, a shield for those I care about

May its fire burn in my spirit, keeping the black flame bright



Bestow upon me, Satan, the characteristics of the Serpent

Possessing ancient wisdom, creative in my solitude

Believably cunning, so I can make my way in life

Extremely ruthless, when people attack

In constant renewal, rising each day prepared to do your work

May its venom run through my soul, till it consumes me



Bestow upon me, Satan, the characteristics of the Peacock

Prideful in appearance, always showing off my beauty

Immortal spirit, living on throughout the ages

Steadfast in everything, willing to go anywhere necessary

Regal in stature, a presence to be reckoned with

May its essence fill my body, making every step one of confidence



Bestow upon me, Satan, the characteristics of the Raven

Forever watchful, never ceasing to observe those around me

Highly intelligent, knowing what to do in every situation

A spiritual figure, so I can teach others about you

Master of death, embracing it when my time has come

May its darkness surround me, where every living being will feel you with me



Bestow upon me, Satan, the characteristics of the Goat

Stubborn in the face of adversary, never thwarted in my goals

Fearless in the face of fear, doing what others dare not

Courageous without limits, climbing every mountain in my way

Wild to the point of abandon, free to be who I am meant to be

May its energy ignite my faith and desire, forever holding high the horns of Baphomet





Satan’s Temple



Black candles burning… Satan invoked

Sigils drawn… flesh is cut

An offering is made in the Master’s name

I have given you, Satan, my life force

My blood spilt for your victory



Come into me as I open myself

Your essence consumes my soul

I am yours… forever and eternally

How could I love anyone more than you… it is not possible

I live for you



My body is yours to make your will manifest

My mind I have given for you to create what you desire us to know

My spirit declares your glory

My soul is my ultimate sacrifice to you, my Master



Satan, you fill my mind and transform me

Darkness overcomes me, and I bask in its infernal pleasures

Your presence surrounds me, therefore I am never alone

With bended knee before your altar

I have made eternal oaths that can never be broken

May you always be glorified in everything I do



Foundations have been shifted as you work in my life

Where there once was light… there is darkness

Where there was stagnation… now there is chaos

Where there once was love… is hatred



Satan, I am your temple

I feel your presence increasing within me

When people look at me, they see you

As they feel me, they feel you

I anoint them with my blood

And when they drink of me, they drink of you



I praise you eternally, Lord Satan

Prince of Darkness, Ancient Serpent

You are great and majestic

With a beauty that shines more than the sun

And darker than the deepest hole in the universe

I embrace your darkness, I embrace your light

With you, I have all I need

Ave Satani!







PRAYER FOR SATANIST LEADERS



Lord Satan

Mighty One

Wisdom Incarnate, Speaker of Knowledge

I ask that you bestow your blessings on the leaders of our Satanic Community

Guide us, so we will serve you in the ways that you desire

Give us strength, to keep us going when things get tough

Bestow upon us wisdom, so we will know what to do in all situations

Inspire us to encourage one another, instead of tear each other down

So we will use our words to bless instead of curse

Yet push us to stand tall when we face things that are wrong

To fight if we have to, yet strive for peace

Help us, Father, to be there for your children-both the adept and the new

To guide them in learning what you have for them

To encourage them not to follow anyone but you and to find their own path

Let us not forget what it was like when we first came to you

How you were gentle, kind and patient

May we follow in your footsteps

To love as you love, teach as you teach

We are happy to be your servant; reveal to us the hidden things

Try us; so we may be worthy of your affairs that you place in our hands

Bestow on us your covenant as we trust in you

Let us receive your counsel, not acting unless it is your will

It is an honour to serve you, Lord Satan

Thank you for choosing us

May our lives be devoted to you; may we be a reflection of who you are to the world

Watch over us and bless your people

Lord and Mighty Satan, may it be done according to your will




PRAYER OF THANKS



Satan

For all the things you mean to me, I thank you

For the joy in my heart, the life in my spirit, I give you thanks

Satan, Father, you give me a reason to live

You give my life meaning

Every day is a treasure in which you encourage me to grow

You nudge me to enjoy every minute

The signs you give me, I treasure

The dreams you send, they guide me

Your presence reassures me I am not alone, for that there are no words

Energy you give when I am weak

Strength you pour into my being when I must walk the difficult walk

When I am sad, you comfort me

When people hurt me, you let me know you are on my side

You are everything I will ever need

You're my Father, who I go to with everything

My Teacher, who guides me in all knowledge

My Protector, when I am in danger

My Creator, who made me who I am

And above all, Satan, you are my God with whom I will spend eternity

Thank you, with all my heart

Thank you, from the depths of my spirit

Thank you, with all that I am





Prayer of the Satanic Warrior



Oh Satan, you give us the power to trample the remnants of Christianity that is left in this world

Fill us with your essence

Let it run through our veins, our souls, our minds… our entire being

We trample on the cross... we spit upon the book of lies... we desecrate the virgin whore

Forever standing proud against the Abrahamic ‘god’

We blaspheme his holy spirit and laugh at his suffering

Inspiring those in shackles to break free from his tyrant ways

Entice them to take that precious bite, where they will be delivered forevermore

You are the mighty one, Lord Satan

And have bestowed upon us the knowledge that has made us what we are today

We hail your name and stand strong with you for all eternity

Inspire us even further to do the work you have for us

To be warriors for you in this world and beyond

Standing up to our enemies and yours alike

We honour you through our words, our actions, our thoughts

Each day that we live upon this earth, may we grow stronger in wisdom and in our love for you

You are our Father, our Teacher, our Muse, our Everything

We have taken your mark in dedication

And the universe will know that we are yours

Place your mighty hand upon us and lead us further down your infernal path

Hail Satan!










PRAYER FOR EMOTIONAL HEALING



When insecurity hits me like a raging wind

Be with me, Father Satan

When doubt strikes me like lightning

Remind me of truth

When fear over powers me

Hold me in your wing, Great Dragon

If pain grabs me like a claw

Heal me, with your mighty power

When depression fills me as water in a well

Shower my soul with joy, Beautiful Peacock Angel

Anxiety creeps through my mind, taking over my thoughts

Place me on solid ground

When I feel I am not good enough,

Make my spirit shine as a star, Wise Serpent

And if I feel that it is too hard to go on

Give me strength



Prayer Upon Waking



At the start of this new day, Lord Lucifer

My thoughts are of you and I know you are with me

I give this day to you

Lead me to walk your path without hesitation

To places where I will gain wisdom

To sources where I will gain knowledge

And where I can make a difference for you

Push me so that no minute will be lost to laziness, inactivity or boredom

So I will be the best that I can be in all areas of my life

Watch over me this day

Protect me from my enemies

Wherever I am, may people see you in me

And in everything I do, may you be honoured



Prayer Before Sleep



At the end of this day, Lord Satan

I thank you for each gift that you have bestowed upon me

For teaching me ancient ways

For experiences both good and bad that has made me stronger

For the people you have taught me through

For the pleasures in which I have partaken

As I sleep, I ask that I may enter your dark realm

So that I may be in your unholy presence

Guide me, Satan, unto yourself

And may I be forever grasped in your mighty wings
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