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Tasmanian parliament
Download hansard.
JUSTICE - THE 'HEINER AFFAIR'
[6.07 p.m.]
Mr MICHAEL HODGMAN (Denison) -

As Her Majesty's shadow attorney-general for the State of Tasmania,
I wish to raise a matter of injustice which has concerned me greatly,
and I will be, with the consent of the minister, tabling in the House and
making available to Hansard, the full article written by Australia's leading writer,
Piers Akerman, and published nationally under the headline 'Tragic tale needs ending'.
It relates to what has become known as the 'Heiner affair'.

It arises in Queensland but it is a matter of concern to all in Australia who
are committed to the pursuit of justice. The article speaks for itself, but I am grateful to
the minister for allowing me to table it because it will save me reading it into Hansard.

Piers Akerman puts a very strong case for a proper judicial inquiry
into a shocking injustice, an injustice which has been covered up for 19 years.

It was raised at the Standing Committee of Shadow Attorneys-General meeting
in Sydney on Friday, which I attended;
it was chaired by the Commonwealth Attorney-General, the Honourable Philip Ruddock MP.

It
was further raised at the national conference of Australians for a
Constitutional Monarchy, which I addressed in Sydney the following day.

I seek leave to table the article by Piers Akerman and have it incorporated into Hansard.
I commend it to all members. If you accept, as I do, that the case here is overwhelming,
then the matter will be listed for proper debate in this Parliament at a later time.
Justice delayed is justice denied. The girl who suffered this massive injustice needs to
have the matter put right and I appeal to all of you to read the article carefully and
I hope you will support me when I intend to bring the matter back to the Parliament
for debate later this session.


Leave granted.


The article read as follows -
'Tragic tale needs ending
Federal Opposition leader Kevin Rudd may be called to answer questions
relating to the destruction of evidence as a police investigation into the rape of
Queensland girl 19 years ago gains new momentum.

The girl, who we will call Alice, was just 14 at the time and resident at the
John Oxley Youth Detention Centre, in the care of the Queensland Government,
when she was gang raped by other inmates.


Though some of the rapists confessed, no charges were pressed and the police
inquiry at the time was at best belated and perfunctory.

Alice's tragic story is but one strand of this horror,
the other is the Goss ALP government's attempt to
ignore her plight and bury the incident without trace.

That attempt began when an investigation directed by former magistrate Noel Heiner
and launched by the Cooper National Party government was shut down by the Goss government when it came to power.


The Goss cabinet ordered the shredding of all the documents collected by
Heiner and this marked the beginning of the Heiner Affair.

Rudd was premier Wayne Goss's chief of staff at the time and subsequently
became the director-general of his cabinet office. It was widely held that
nothing took place within cabinet without his knowledge, and he has also
claimed his experience running Goss's cabinet has equipped him to be prime
minister of Australia.


Though both Rudd and Queensland Premier Peter Beattie claimed as recently as
last week that the shredding of the documents needed no further investigation, it
has never been fully examined.


Both Rudd and Beattie also rejected the view of former chief justice of the High
Court Sir Harry Gibbs and an unprecedented plea from a former West
Australian chief justice (David Malcolm), two retired New South Wales chief
judges (Jack Lee, now deceased, and Dr Frank McGrath), two retired New
South Wales Supreme Court justices (Roddy Meagher and Barry O'Keefe), one
of Australia's foremost QCs (Alec Shand) and a legal academic and barrister
(Alastair MacAdam) that an independent special prosecutor be appointed to
examine the matter.


The most thorough inquiry to date was conducted by a House of
Representatives committee chaired by federal MP Bronwyn Bishop, which
recommended that 'members of the Queensland cabinet at the time that the
decision was made to shred the documents gathered by the Heiner inquiry be
charged for an offence pursuant to Section 129 of the Queensland Criminal
Code Act 1899. Charges pursuant to sections 132 and 140 of the Queensland
Criminal Code Act 1899 may also arise'.

Further, a recent two-year audit of the matter by prominent Sydney QC David
Rofe, which ran to 3 000 pages contained in nine volumes, concluded there
were 67 unaddressed alleged prima facie criminal charges against the cabinet
and civil servants that needed to be urgently addressed.

Alice still suffers profound psychological problems, exacerbated by repeated
charges that she is a liar, but filed a complaint with the Queensland Police
Service in March 2006, following the release under Freedom of Information
legislation, which included evidence that the rapists had confessed to both a
staffer at the youth centre, and the director of the facility, Peter Coyne.


The documents show that not only was she raped, she was also denied her legal
rights by the Queensland police - and those entrusted with her care.

Alice has been interviewed by members of the Queensland police taskforce
Argos and a senior detective from Argos last Tuesday sought an interview with
another person who has maintained an interest in the matter.

Rudd, who describes himself as a 'compassionate Christian' has not sought any
inquiry into the attacks on the girl and has not offered any explanation of the
destruction of the documents, though he had the responsibility for the business
of the cabinet. Whether the Queensland police are now up to fully investigating
such a highly charged political matter, given their studious attempts to ignore it,
is questionable.


As a number of the nation's most senior legal figures have pointed out, there is a
strong precedent for bringing charges against those who ordered and participated in
the shredding of the Heiner material, as shown by the case brought against a
Baptist pastor Douglas Ensbey.


Ensbey suspected that a member of a family in his congregation was being
abused and, while dealing with the mother, was given pages of notes written by
the victim. The family said they would deal with the issue and asked for the
pages back, but Ensbey had guillotined them, making them difficult to read.

The victim went to the police, aged 20, and the assailant immediately confessed.

The police, however, concentrated on the sliced pages and charged Ensbey with
the destruction of evidence under S129. He was found guilty by a jury in March
2004, convicted and sentenced to two year's jail (reduced on appeal to six
months, wholly suspended).

The action of the Goss cabinet falls under the same section of the law the police
used to pursue Douglas Ensbey.

Many see parallels in the campaign by crusaders against child abuse to hound
former governor-general Peter Hollingworth from office, though it was never
alleged he was involved in a crime.


Former Opposition leader Simon Crean said: 'You cannot have people in
authority who have covered up for child sex abuse. It is as simple as that'.
And it is. But what can be said about an Opposition Leader who may have been
complicit in the illegal shredding of evidence? If the ALP stands by the
standards it applied to Hollingworth, Rudd should resign and answer the
questions that the Queensland ALP has worked hard to avoid for 19 years.

If he has a shred of decency, he would consider Alice, and her need for release
from the hell she has been forced to live in because of this nauseating cover-up.'

http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/tasmanian_parliament.html

Column - Put Bryce in her box
138 Comments
Andrew Bolt - Friday, March 06, 2009 at 06:25am

QUENTIN Bryce should be reminded
there’s room in this country for just one prime minister.

And she isn’t it.



Indeed, no-one ever voted to make Bryce our Governor-General,
other than the Prime Minister himself.

Yet her new job seems to have gone to her head, because our
Activist-General’s apparent pretentions to be the political leader we
neither asked for nor should want have become alarming.

Last month, for instance, Bryce called in the head of the defence
forces, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, the head of the Department of
Foreign Affairs, Michael L’Estrange, and the Treasury Secretary, Dr Ken
Henry, for official briefings.

This was a first for any governor-general, her spokesman confirmed to The Australian. (Correction:
the Governor General’s office has since informed us that this report
was false. Previous governors general have also received briefings.)

And I’m not surprised: does this former sex discrimination commissioner
think her titular role as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces
actually gives her real power over our soldiers, sailors and airmen? In
January, Bryce forgot herself even more completely, going to a big
international conference in Dubai on renewable energy and calling on the
world to fight global warming.

“We must act swiftly, act smartly and act together,” she declared.
“Australia will play its full part in the global effort to make sure we
seize that opportunity.”


Er, we will?

Even our real Prime Minister is now rethinking that plan, shaken by the
recession, while the Opposition clearly wants Australia to wait a while
before doing anything that will cost jobs.

So who was Bryce speaking for? Herself?

No can do, lady.

Bryce actually knew perfectly well when she accepted the role of
Governor-General that playing politics like this was not part of the job
description.


Her job now is to represent all Australians, not just Greens voters, and
to stay well clear of the politics that would make her a polarising
figure.

It’s as the late Richard McGarvie, the much-admired governor of
Victoria, judge and Labor man said—the job must go to a “respected
person who remains entirely above partisan politics and exerts a
unifying influence”.

There is a critical reason for that, beyond the fact that political
meddling by an unelected governor is undemocratic, which is why we’d be
upset if even the Queen tried what Bryce is now flaunting.


Even more important is that the essential role of a governor is to make sure the constitution works as it should.


Usually that’s an uncontroversial task—signing into laws the Bills
passed by parliament, swearing in an elected government and dissolving
parliament when the prime minister asks.


But as we saw with the sacking of the Whitlam government in 1975,
sometimes a governor-general must act in ways that can—if not done
carefully by an apolitical figure—have us at each other’s throats,
screaming that democracy is dead.


Bryce knows all this, but an enforced silence clearly chokes a woman
whose career was spent almost entirely on wagging an improving
finger—whether for the National Women’s Advisory Council, the Human
Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission or the Sex Discrimination
Commission.

So while she promised to stop politicking, she couldn’t help adding:
“But that doesn’t mean you can’t express views and opinions on matters
of importance to the community.”

Or of importance to Bryce, to be exact. And off the Activist-General
then hared, leaping on political issues with barely a blush of shame.

She backed calls for paid maternity leave, just as the Rudd Government
decided to put this $450 million extravagance on the back burner.

She regally toured the Murray-Darling basin and demanded more leadership
in tackling the drought and global warming, both issues of fierce
political debate—not just between Labor and Liberal, but the Federal
Government and the states.

And she launched the book version of the Garnaut Climate Change Review,
spruiking a highly tendentious tome written by Rudd’s hand-picked
adviser on global warming to fulfil a Labor election promise.

It’s hard to think of a more political document for the Governor-General
to endorse, other than the Labor Party platform itself.

I do not doubt that Bryce means well, and has seized on the
Governor-General’s job to do it. But what she wants to do comes at a
cost to the role she’s been given, and is best done by an elected and
accountable politician.


May I suggest she stand for election?

But perhaps that is now too humble an option for the rather grand Bryce,
who set a new first last month by recording a televised address to the
nation.


Again, she meant well, saying comforting things to the victims of the Black Saturday fires.


But it was incongruous to see a woman few Australians would recognise
and none have chosen deliver a message in a form previously reserved for
a Prime Minister or Queen.

Rather above her station, I thought. And perhaps the next time the
cameras come calling to Yarralumla, Bryce might consider that rather
than get on the box, she should get back in it.


Australian Governor General Quentin Bryce
is facing new perception of bias claims.


The Governor-General has already sought advice
on another potential conflict of interest stemming from
her daughter's marriage last year to
Labor party powerbroker Bill Shorten.


Governor-General Quentin Bryce is facing a new perception of bias claim
as she seeks advice on whether she should be involved in resolving
the nation's hung parliament.

Two years ago Opposition Leader
Tony Abbott called for a royal commission

into the controversial Heiner Affair
,
which stemmed from the Queensland Goss Labor government's
shredding of documents from an aborted inquiry into a youth centre in 1990.

Mr Abbott told parliament at the time the royal commission should examine
a "compendium of evidence" on the matter prepared by Sydney barrister David Rofe QC.

Ms Bryce, who served as Queensland Governor before becoming
Australia's first female Governor-General, was among numerous people
"adversely named"
in Mr Rofe's document, a parliamentary committee was told.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-election/governorgeneral-hit-with-new-bias-claims-20100825-13s24.html#ixzz1nUqaNjEu
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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:01 am

true lilly wrote:Lose lose for Labor at today's showdown

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard
will emerge victorious today
from a battle with Kevin Rudd
but with her leadership potentially crippled.


  • Rudd: 'Julia and Wayne pushed me to drop ETS'
  • Simon Benson: Killing two birds with just one vote
  • Flying away: G-G takes her leave in a crisis
  • Short odds: $300,000 bet on PM
  • Accusation: Roxon was 'two-faced' after 2010 coup
  • Editorial: Complete rebuild of Labor required
Reminds me of when LABOR Appointed
Chief of Police Christine NIXON
wasn't around DURING THE PEAK of
The VICTORIA FIRES CRISIS...

Governor-General Quentin Bryce
takes her leave in a crisis

Patrick Lion Political Reporter
The Daily Telegraph
February 27, 2012
12:25AM


Prime Minister Julia Gillard meeting with Governor-General Quentin Bryce
Pic: David Foote Source: The Daily Telegraph


GOVERNOR-General Quentin Bryce
has flown out of the country for the week
despite the potential for Australia's
worst constitutional crisis
in almost four decades.


Ms Bryce left Australia yesterday morning for a five-day tour of New Zealand
ahead
of the extraordinary challenge to the leadership of Prime Minister
Julia Gillard today and the volatile situation if Kevin Rudd wins and
had to form a minority government.


After a week of the Labor government imploding, Mr Rudd's ministerial resignation and
unprecedented bitter infighting among Ms Gillard and her senior cabinet ministers,
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott may also move a no-confidence motion
when parliament resumes.


A spokeswoman for Ms Bryce yesterday said the trip was a long-planned state visit and
that NSW Governor Marie Bashir, as the most senior state governor, had replaced her
as administrator of the head of state's office.


"We fly back into Sydney on Thursday night," a spokeswoman for Ms Bryce told
The Daily Telegraph
from Auckland. "We don't expect any issues. It was long-planned."


But the spokeswoman would not comment on whether Ms Bryce had asked for legal advice
on Mr Rudd winning, having to renegotiate with the independents and asking her to form
a minority government.
"We don't comment on political issues," the spokeswoman said.


One constitutional law expert,
who did not wish to be named,
said that while Ms Bryce
may only be a few hours flight away
it was a strange decision.
true lilly wrote:

Tasmanian parliament
Download hansard.
JUSTICE - THE 'HEINER AFFAIR'
[6.07 p.m.]
Mr MICHAEL HODGMAN (Denison) -

As Her Majesty's shadow attorney-general for the State of Tasmania,
I wish to raise a matter of injustice which has concerned me greatly,
and I will be, with the consent of the minister, tabling in the House and
making available to Hansard, the full article written by Australia's leading writer,
Piers Akerman, and published nationally under the headline 'Tragic tale needs ending'.
It relates to what has become known as the 'Heiner affair'.

It arises in Queensland but it is a matter of concern to all in Australia who
are committed to the pursuit of justice. The article speaks for itself, but I am grateful to
the minister for allowing me to table it because it will save me reading it into Hansard.

Piers Akerman puts a very strong case for a proper judicial inquiry
into a shocking injustice, an injustice which has been covered up for 19 years.

It was raised at the Standing Committee of Shadow Attorneys-General meeting
in Sydney on Friday, which I attended;
it was chaired by the Commonwealth Attorney-General, the Honourable Philip Ruddock MP.

It
was further raised at the national conference of Australians for a
Constitutional Monarchy, which I addressed in Sydney the following day.

I seek leave to table the article by Piers Akerman and have it incorporated into Hansard.
I commend it to all members. If you accept, as I do, that the case here is overwhelming,
then the matter will be listed for proper debate in this Parliament at a later time.
Justice delayed is justice denied. The girl who suffered this massive injustice needs to
have the matter put right and I appeal to all of you to read the article carefully and
I hope you will support me when I intend to bring the matter back to the Parliament
for debate later this session.


Leave granted.


The article read as follows -
'Tragic tale needs ending
Federal Opposition leader Kevin Rudd may be called to answer questions
relating to the destruction of evidence as a police investigation into the rape of
Queensland girl 19 years ago gains new momentum.

The girl, who we will call Alice, was just 14 at the time and resident at the
John Oxley Youth Detention Centre, in the care of the Queensland Government,
when she was gang raped by other inmates.


Though some of the rapists confessed, no charges were pressed and the police
inquiry at the time was at best belated and perfunctory.

Alice's tragic story is but one strand of this horror,
the other is the Goss ALP government's attempt to
ignore her plight and bury the incident without trace.


That attempt began when an investigation directed by former magistrate Noel Heiner
and launched by the Cooper National Party government was shut down by the Goss government when it came to power.


The Goss cabinet ordered the shredding of all the documents collected by
Heiner and this marked the beginning of the Heiner Affair.

Rudd was premier Wayne Goss's chief of staff at the time and subsequently
became the director-general of his cabinet office. It was widely held that
nothing took place within cabinet without his knowledge, and he has also
claimed his experience running Goss's cabinet has equipped him to be prime
minister of Australia.


Though both Rudd and Queensland Premier Peter Beattie claimed as recently as
last week that the shredding of the documents needed no further investigation, it
has never been fully examined.


Both Rudd and Beattie also rejected the view of former chief justice of the High
Court Sir Harry Gibbs and an unprecedented plea from a former West
Australian chief justice (David Malcolm), two retired New South Wales chief
judges (Jack Lee, now deceased, and Dr Frank McGrath), two retired New
South Wales Supreme Court justices (Roddy Meagher and Barry O'Keefe), one
of Australia's foremost QCs (Alec Shand) and a legal academic and barrister
(Alastair MacAdam) that an independent special prosecutor be appointed to
examine the matter.


The most thorough inquiry to date was conducted by a House of
Representatives committee chaired by federal MP Bronwyn Bishop, which
recommended that 'members of the Queensland cabinet at the time that the
decision was made to shred the documents gathered by the Heiner inquiry be
charged for an offence pursuant to Section 129 of the Queensland Criminal
Code Act 1899. Charges pursuant to sections 132 and 140 of the Queensland
Criminal Code Act 1899 may also arise'.

Further, a recent two-year audit of the matter by prominent Sydney QC David
Rofe, which ran to 3 000 pages contained in nine volumes, concluded there
were 67 unaddressed alleged prima facie criminal charges against the cabinet
and civil servants that needed to be urgently addressed.

Alice still suffers profound psychological problems, exacerbated by repeated
charges that she is a liar, but filed a complaint with the Queensland Police
Service in March 2006, following the release under Freedom of Information
legislation, which included evidence that the rapists had confessed to both a
staffer at the youth centre, and the director of the facility, Peter Coyne.


The documents show that not only was she raped, she was also denied her legal
rights by the Queensland police - and those entrusted with her care.

Alice has been interviewed by members of the Queensland police taskforce
Argos and a senior detective from Argos last Tuesday sought an interview with
another person who has maintained an interest in the matter.

Rudd, who describes himself as a 'compassionate Christian' has not sought any
inquiry into the attacks on the girl and has not offered any explanation of the
destruction of the documents, though he had the responsibility for the business
of the cabinet. Whether the Queensland police are now up to fully investigating
such a highly charged political matter, given their studious attempts to ignore it,
is questionable.


As a number of the nation's most senior legal figures have pointed out, there is a
strong precedent for bringing charges against those who ordered and participated in
the shredding of the Heiner material, as shown by the case brought against a
Baptist pastor Douglas Ensbey.


Ensbey suspected that a member of a family in his congregation was being
abused and, while dealing with the mother, was given pages of notes written by
the victim. The family said they would deal with the issue and asked for the
pages back, but Ensbey had guillotined them, making them difficult to read.

The victim went to the police, aged 20, and the assailant immediately confessed.

The police, however, concentrated on the sliced pages and charged Ensbey with
the destruction of evidence under S129. He was found guilty by a jury in March
2004, convicted and sentenced to two year's jail (reduced on appeal to six
months, wholly suspended).

The action of the Goss cabinet falls under the same section of the law the police
used to pursue Douglas Ensbey.

Many see parallels in the campaign by crusaders against child abuse to hound
former governor-general Peter Hollingworth from office, though it was never
alleged he was involved in a crime.


Former Opposition leader Simon Crean said: 'You cannot have people in
authority who have covered up for child sex abuse. It is as simple as that'.
And it is. But what can be said about an Opposition Leader who may have been
complicit in the illegal shredding of evidence? If the ALP stands by the
standards it applied to Hollingworth, Rudd should resign and answer the
questions that the Queensland ALP has worked hard to avoid for 19 years.

If he has a shred of decency, he would consider Alice, and her need for release
from the hell she has been forced to live in because of this nauseating cover-up.'

http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/tasmanian_parliament.html

Column - Put Bryce in her box
138 Comments
Andrew Bolt - Friday, March 06, 2009 at 06:25am

QUENTIN Bryce should be reminded
there’s room in this country for just one prime minister.

And she isn’t it.



Indeed, no-one ever voted to make Bryce our Governor-General,
other than the Prime Minister himself.

Yet her new job seems to have gone to her head, because our
Activist-General’s apparent pretentions to be the political leader we
neither asked for nor should want have become alarming.

Last month, for instance, Bryce called in the head of the defence forces,
Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, the head of the Department of Foreign Affairs,
Michael L’Estrange, and the Treasury Secretary, Dr Ken Henry, for official briefings.

This was a first for any governor-general, her spokesman confirmed to The Australian. (Correction: the Governor General’s office has since informed us that this report
was false. Previous governors general have also received briefings.)

And I’m not surprised: does this former sex discrimination commissioner think
her titular role as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces
actually gives her real power over our soldiers, sailors and airmen?

In January, Bryce forgot herself even more completely, going to a big international
conference in Dubai on renewable energy and calling on the world to fight global warming.

“We must act swiftly, act smartly and act together,” she declared.
“Australia will play its full part in the global effort to make sure we seize that opportunity.”


Er, we will?

Even our real Prime Minister is now rethinking that plan, shaken by the recession,
while the Opposition clearly wants Australia to wait a while before doing anything
that will cost jobs.

So who was Bryce speaking for? Herself?

No can do, lady.

Bryce actually knew perfectly well when she accepted the role of Governor-General
that playing politics like this was not part of the job description.


Her job now is to represent all Australians, not just Greens voters, and
to stay well clear of the politics
that would make her a polarising figure.

It’s as the late Richard McGarvie, the much-admired governor of Victoria,
judge and Labor man said—the job must go to a “respected person who remains
entirely above partisan politics and exerts a unifying influence”.


There is a critical reason for that,
beyond the fact that political meddling
by an unelected governor is undemocratic,
which is why we’d be upset if
even the Queen tried
what Bryce is now flaunting.


Even more important is that
the essential role of a governor is to make sure
the constitution works as it should.

Usually that’s an uncontroversial task—
signing into laws the Bills passed by parliament,
swearing in an elected government
and dissolving parliament

when the prime minister asks.


But as we saw with the sacking of the Whitlam government in 1975, sometimes
a governor-general must act in ways that can—if not done carefully by an apolitical figure—have us at each other’s throats, screaming that democracy is dead.


Bryce knows all this, but an enforced silence clearly chokes a woman
whose career was spent almost entirely on wagging an improving finger—
whether for the National Women’s Advisory Council,
the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission
or
the Sex Discrimination Commission.

So while she promised to stop politicking, she couldn’t help adding:
“But that doesn’t mean you can’t express views and opinions on matters
of importance to the community.”

Or of importance to Bryce, to be exact. And off the Activist-General then hared,
leaping on political issues with barely a blush of shame.

She backed calls for paid maternity leave, just as the Rudd Government
decided to put this $450 million extravagance on the back burner.

She regally toured the Murray-Darling basin and demanded more leadership
in tackling the drought and global warming, both issues of fierce political debate—
not just between Labor and Liberal, but the Federal Government and the states.

And she launched the book version of the Garnaut Climate Change Review,
spruiking a highly tendentious tome written by Rudd’s hand-picked
adviser on global warming to fulfill a Labor election promise.


It’s hard to think of a more political document for the Governor-General to endorse,
other than the Labor Party platform itself.

I do not doubt that Bryce means well, and has seized on the
Governor-General’s job to do it. But what she wants to do comes at a
cost to the role she’s been given, and is best done by an elected and
accountable politician.


May I suggest she stand for election?

But perhaps that is now too humble an option for the rather grand Bryce,
who set a new first last month by recording a televised address to the nation.


Again, she meant well,
saying comforting things
to the victims of the Black Saturday fires.

But it was incongruous to see a woman few Australians would recognise
and none have chosen deliver a message
in a form previously reserved for a Prime Minister or Queen.


Rather above her station, I thought.
And perhaps the next time the cameras come calling to Yarralumla,
Bryce might consider that rather than get on the box,
she should get back in it.


Australian Governor General Quentin Bryce
is facing new perception of bias claims.


The Governor-General has already sought advice
on another potential conflict of interest stemming from
her daughter's marriage last year to
Labor party powerbroker Bill Shorten.


Governor-General Quentin Bryce is facing a new perception of bias claim
as she seeks advice on whether she should be involved in resolving
the nation's hung parliament.

Two years ago Opposition Leader
Tony Abbott called for a royal commission

into the controversial Heiner Affair
,
which stemmed from the Queensland Goss Labor government's
shredding of documents from an aborted inquiry into a youth centre in 1990.

Mr Abbott told parliament at the time the royal commission should examine
a "compendium of evidence" on the matter prepared by Sydney barrister David Rofe QC.

Ms Bryce, who served as Queensland Governor before becoming
Australia's first female Governor-General, was among numerous people
"adversely named"
in Mr Rofe's document, a parliamentary committee was told.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-election/governorgeneral-hit-with-new-bias-claims-20100825-13s24.html#ixzz1nUqaNjEu
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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:19 am

Truth be told, can we believe them?
by:Andrew Bolt
From:
Herald Sun
February 27, 2012

12:00AM


Are the Prime Minister and senior ministers
liars when they trash their former leader,

asks Andrew Bolt.
Herald Sun


LABOR MPs meeting in Canberra this morning face a critical question
about Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd.

No, it's not just the one that's tearing them apart - whether to pick as prime minister
the woman who can't win or the man who can't lead.


There is a question far more important.

It's this:
are the Prime Minister and senior ministers liars when they trash their former leader?


Are they liars when they savage Rudd as an incompetent, selfish, arrogant,
flighty, brittle, remote and disloyal control freak who cut dead anyone
who dared to contradict him, and led a chaotic and paralysed government?


Or, if Rudd is indeed a lunatic,
how did they dare let a lunatic
become our prime minister?


Here's how Rudd is now described by people who used his popularity
to get them into office in 2007, before axing him for Gillard in 2010.


Opinion: Andrew Bolt's blog

Wayne Swan, who served as Rudd's Treasurer for three years, now accuses him of "dysfunctional decision making".

"There is too much at stake in our economy and in the political debate for
the interests of the labour movement and working people to be damaged by
somebody who does not hold any Labor values."


Rudd is too dangerous to run the economy?


Then why did Swan help put him in charge of the economy in 2007?


Or take Communications Minister Steve Conroy:
"(Rudd) had contempt for the Cabinet, contempt for the Cabinet members,
contempt for the Parliament.

"Ultimately what brought him down a year or two ago was
the Australian public worked out that he had contempt for them as well."


So Conroy was happy to leave Rudd in power with all that dangerous contempt only
to the point that the public saw through it?


Then there's Environment Minister Tony Burke:
"It became chaotic, the chaos, the undermining, the temperament that started to develop,
the micro-management ... Kevin as leader became someone who through his complex
became increasingly impossible to work with."


And, of course, we have Gillard herself, Rudd's "loyal deputy" for 3 1/2 years,
telling us now he had "very difficult and very chaotic work patterns"
that bogged his Government in "months of paralysis and chaos".


None of this is what these characters once told us.

Even after helping to knife Rudd, Swan praised his former leader as
a man with "great commitment to the country and fantastic work ethic".


Likewise, Gillard in 2009 cooed that Rudd as prime minister was "doing a fantastic job".

Of course, I'm prepared to believe Gillard, Swan and the rest
were actually lying about Rudd from the start.


After all, he was already so unliked by his colleagues that they tried almost
every other contender from Labor's Right as leader - Kim Beazley (twice),
Simon Crean and even Mark Latham - before turning to Rudd in desperation.


We also now have what could be the professional opinion of Prof John Mendoza,
Rudd's former mental health adviser
, who says
the former PM is not "fit for office" and "was removed for his own wellbeing".


Moreover, it was clear to me even before Rudd became prime minister that
he was a troubled, fragile and easily distracted man.


For instance, in April 2007, I wrote:
"He has now little time to remake himself before the public starts to ... wonder if
this highly intelligent, ferociously hard-working man does have the glass jaw that
will make him unpredictable in high office."


In November 2007, I wrote:
"Rudd as prime minister will be a control freak ... The story of the Rudd government is
likely to be of a jittery Labor leader with more formal power than any before him, trying
to control people with a clearer sense of direction than he has himself."


In June 2008:
"Being so manic, and so unsure of himself, he's of course also famously impatient and
short-tempered."


I quote myself not to toot my trumpet - well, a bit - but to prove that
Rudd's character was always obvious, even if most Canberra journalists
closed their eyes to it for years. (Protecting Labor?)


Labor bosses must have seen all this, too, yet made Rudd their leader to exploit
his popularity for their power.


So, another question.
These people who once told us Rudd was a great prime minister
now tell us Gillard is even better.


They've lied before. Are they lying again?
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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:35 am

Norwegian ship heads out of Antarctic
A NORWEGIAN yacht
with a New Zealander on board
is ending its unauthorised
Antarctic voyage

and heading north.

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A NORWEGIAN yacht with a New Zealander on board is ending its unauthorised Antarctic voyage and heading north.

Norwegians Jarle Andhoy, 34, and Samuel Massie, 19,
New Zealander Busby Noble, 53
, and a Russian skipper,
are aboard the yacht Nilaya in McMurdo Sound.


Mr Andhoy has been searching for his missing sailboat the Berserk.

He had called his lawyer to say his search had been completed and he was heading north, Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported.


But the crew was not sailing to New Zealand, believing they will face prosecution there.

Under New Zealand regulations,
any ship heading from New Zealand to Antarctica needs permission
from New Zealand authorities.


The yacht would instead head for South America,
Mr Andhoy's friend Rune Olsgaard told the paper.

Related Coverage

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Scott's heroics provoke debate The Daily Telegraph, 5 Jan 2012

Berserk sank in a huge storm in February last year -
with the loss of three lives -

as Mr Andhoy and Mr Massie tried to reach the South Pole
on quad bikes.


Mr Andhoy's expedition has attracted criticism
because he does not have permission to be in Antarctic waters

and is putting potential rescuers at risk if he gets into trouble.

true lilly wrote:Brazil: Fire at Antarctic base kills two
February 26, 2012 (10:17PM)
The Brazilian naval base in Antarctica. Pic/AFP Source: AFP

A FIRE at Brazil's research station
in Antarctica killed two navy personnel
and forced the evacuation by
helicopter of 44 people.

The blaze broke out in the morning in the machine room that houses
the energy generators of the Comandante Ferraz station, the navy said in
an emailed statement.


Two navy officials at the base died
and
a third was injured in the fire
,


Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff's
office said in a statement.


Rousseff's office said the base would be reconstructed.

The navy statement said that 44 people at the station at the time of the fire
were transferred to Chile's Eduardo Frei station
.


In a second statement, the navy said efforts to extinguish the fire were
suspended because of bad weather
. The firefighting crew was evacuated
to the Chilean base
and will return once the weather improves.


Chile's Defence Minister Andres Allamand told reporters the fire had
"completely destroyed" the base.
O Estado de S. Paulo
newspaper quoted an unnamed official of the Brazilian navy
saying the same thing.


A navy spokesman said those reports were "unfounded" and that as soon as
the weather improves "we will evaluate the damage the fire caused to the
station's structure."


Separately, he confirmed a report
posted on the O Estado de S. Paulo's website that
a barge carrying diesel oil to the station sank
during a storm in December.


According to the newspaper, the barge was carrying 10,000 litres of diesel in its
storage tank when it capsized and sank some 900 metres from Comandante Ferraz.


No one was on the barge as it was being towed by four small vessels
from Brazilian navy ships to the base, which started operations in 1984.


So far, none of the fuel has leaked and two ships are expected to reach the site in
about a week to try to bring the barge to the surface before any leaks occur,
the newspaper said without revealing how it obtained the information.

February 26, 2012
Brazil: Fire at Antarctic base kills two
Labor is burning the village - Xenophon
INDEPENDENT Senator Nick Xenophon says
the Federal Labor leadership tussle is bizarre.
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Labor is burning the village - Xenophon
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true lilly wrote:
Darwin: Talking heads chat in minute's silence

THE Governor-General Quentin Bryce and
the Prime Minister Julia Gillard have both
been accused of talking through the minute's silence
during the memorial for
the 70th anniversary of the Bombing of Darwin.


Punters started commenting on the NT News Facebook page after other readers
had complained directly to this paper about Ms Bryce.


Heather Malcolm said she saw both the ladies talking.

In agreement was Alana Chapman who said she saw Ms Bryce and Ms Gillard
talking and said they should be able to show respect and not talk.


Others agreed.

"She was talking to the Prime Minister. Very disgraceful and disrespectful,"
Darren Becker said.


Your Say

"Put two chicks next to each other and they'll fill a silence. Probably discussing shoes."
Glen


"Yep. Saw them talking, very disrespectful," Jenn Cameron said.

Debbie Holland joked about the Prime Minister's troubled reign.
"Maybe she was asking Julia if she wanted an appointment at the lodge
to dissolve parliament,"
she said.


While Haley Roddy said there were a lot of people talking through it.
"Not good,"
she said.


Amy Thompson lamented a trend.
"Seems to be the norm these days, the number of parents I see
talking their way through our national anthem at school assembly every week,"
she said.

"No bloody wonder the kids have no respect."

But Dimity Jessup said she didn't see the Governor-General or the Prime
Minister talking however there were many behind her talking, with phones
ringing.


The NT News put call into the offices of both the Governor-General and and Prime Minister but received no response.


Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Governor-General Quentin Bryce

at the Bombing of Darwin ceremony on the Esplanade.
Picture: PATRINA
MALONE
1
Woe to you who are despoiling,
without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously,
without [others] having dealt treacherously with you!
As soon as you have finished as a despoiler,
you will be despoiled.
As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.


Isaiah 33
Whose number is up?
As the moment approaches when
federal Labor MPs will decide the leadership,
we test the mood in Canberra.
FULL coverage on the Rudd vs Gillard battle.
Brazil: Fire at Antarctic base kills two
Labor is burning the village - Xenophon


  1. Ambition, betrayal and revenge
    Monday’s ballot for the Labor leadership
    will be the fourth prime ministerial spill in four decades.

  2. Doomed expedition
  3. A collection of relics from Captain Robert Scott's ill-fated 1910 Antarctic expedition has sold for $18,000 at auction.
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Handjob Spam...

Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:50 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Whose number is up?
As the moment approaches when
federal Labor MPs will decide the leadership,
we test the mood in Canberra.
FULL coverage on the Rudd vs Gillard battle.


Perfect still of Gillard there,I'll meditate on that at sexual climax.

boobies

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Billy Ruben wrote:
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true lilly wrote:WA to get fetal homicide laws




OFFENDERS who kill an unborn child
by assaulting a pregnant mother
or
by dangerous driving
face a life sentence
under historic new laws.

smoke & mirrors

the real story their trying to cover is the legalization of prostitution

Well,it is,if it's in a brothel.
But out on the street,is a big no,no....
Although the rates are higher,in a brothel,most are screened for STD's,so you DO get value for money.
I checked out a few girls,at $500 an hour,but they are'nt low level,gulp and blows,$800 for two hours is what I'd go for.Brunette models,it still worked out cheaper,than most high class bars,with drinks,get to drunk and can't get it up.Where,if I take some marijuana,Codeine or stay awake pills,I can last for hours,so it evens itself out,without puking and the sensitivities of the act are heightened under the influence of drugs.So,a memorable experience it would be."Touch Of Class",things like that.Not that shithole in Taree,called Wagtails,full of things that you'd find in a barn-yard,bored farmers wives looking for spare change and a few well masked junkies who use their legs or necks to shoot up...


But of course,there's a much cheaper variant...a willing and consenting hand,a few crayons and a great imagination.







bump boobies lol!
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Post  true lilly on Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:11 pm




Dollar falls on Labor leadership ballot
JULIA Gillard has been re-elected as Labor leader,
beating out Kevin Rudd for the job.

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Back on Gillard’s to-do list

Right, now back to work.

- stopping the boats, with 740 people arriving in one week.

- salvaging the Queensland election, heading for a Labor disaster.

- dealing with the Craig Thompson scandal, with police raids last week.

- dealing with the looming carbon tax disaster, with the tax to be implemented by July 1.

- honoring the promise to return the Budget to surplus by next financial year.

- answering the questions about who actually whipped up
the Australia Day race riot
.

At least one journalist I know may have to
explain some texts he received from Gillard’s office,

- dealing with business demands for workplace reform, especially as the economy tightens.

- dealing with Rudd’s implied admission, and Resources Minister Martin Ferguson’s hint,
that the carbon tax of $23 a tonne is way too high and
the price must be slashed quickly before more jobs are lost.


UPDATE

As I typed that I heard yet another reporter and yet another Labor MP say
the government now had to sell the carbon tax better.

Why this enduring fantasy that the problem is solved merely by a better sales job?

No, what’s needed is not better spin but better policy.
true lilly wrote:"WHERE IS THE GLOBAL POWER BASE SHIFTING TO...
Bob Brown shows true colours
on a
New World Order
and
One World Government


http://youtu.be/Kuz46ohTicQ

Uploaded by 2wheels88 on Aug 19, 2011
Typically what most well intensioned Australians do not understand
when they vote green is that they are not voting for the environment
but a global scientific oppressive dictatorship.

Our sovereignty as a nation
will no longer exist
and our right to vote for leaders
will no longer exist.


If you listen to what British politicians are saying about the United Europe
is that they have a European President that is not democratically elected
and that is a small feature of a united world,except they often quote that
communist China should be the model on which this New World Order be
built. I don't know about you but I'm not prepared to give up our
constitution for one like China's.Think about it!!! This video
originally uploaded by youtube user wakeup2thelies I thank him for
bringing this to my attention,he has about 8000+ views but I feel many
more Aussies need to see and know what is being planned by these so
called greens.
Our government is not listening to us, just the beginning
of the nightmare that could unfold.


(Note: the poster of this video seems to only have a 'worldly' 'understanding' of
The Really Big Picture, going by their lack of understanding of 'Who' 'China' ARE.)

Mind you, I don't give a hoot about politics,
beyond watching it for the signs God told us to watch for,
and warning folk about those warning signs.

And that 'they' of The Global CONspiracy Industry
of The Global Mass Anti-social Twittering NETwork,
keep insisting folk ignore The Globally Important News
about and coming out of The Continent Sized Sign, Australia,
tells thinking people that they do so at the peril of their
Eternal Lives.


BTW, I'm not a fan of 'democracy', beyond it also being
one of the Key Signs God told us to watch for.

The Sign of The Global Majority casing after Bloody 'profits',
and False 'prophets' who Preach Worship of The Beast...
while God sifts and sorts, and Raises, His Kings and Princes.
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Labor powerbroker Arbib quits


4:18PM
Jessica Marszalek

UPDATE:

ASSISTANT Treasurer Mark Arbib has resigned as a minister and senator,
sending shockwaves through Canberra.

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Labor powerbroker Arbib quits

5:22PM
Jessica Marszalek
UPDATE:
ASSISTANT Treasurer Mark Arbib has resigned as a minister and senator,
sending shockwaves through Canberra.

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Post  true lilly on Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:23 am


Virgin raises fares after carbon tax








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AIRLINE follows Qantas's lead by upping domestic airfares, blaming the
government's carbon scheme
which will take effect from July.
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Post  true lilly on Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:04 pm

true lilly wrote:



...19 wins in a row from 19 starts now...
(for Victorian Bred RACEHORSE, 'Black Caviar')
equals the record...the people want her
to have her 20th race (and 20th win) in
Australia, but it looks like she will do it
[size=24]OVER SEAS...
Re: RACE AGAINST TIDE...and TIME...


Smile STAR was the name of my horse that I used to ride in these waters...

...that VICTORIAN Bred Black Caviar,
THE WORLD'S FASTEST HORSE
,
has so many MSM images involving
WATER...


The hippocamp
(as seen in this sketch from Pompeii)
is a water creature that has been referred to as
a "water horse".

true lilly wrote:...and so much to remember....and to thank God for...


CFA, SES battle to save horseMore

Desperate race to save Astro

It was the race against tide
that pulled at the heartstrings.

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Pictures: Horse Rescue
Cr Farrell seeks cash after using up expense fund
???...odd story to link to the saving of Astro...

Jan Farrell.

GEELONG councillor Jan Farrell's controversial overseas gambling
conference junket has blown out her annual $3000 council expenses tab.


Cr Farrell will front tomorrow night's council meeting to ask for an
additional $1500 to carry out her duties for the rest of the 2011-12
financial year.

The Geelong Advertiser revealed last week that
Cr Farrell had booked a trip to New Zealand for a biennial
international gambling conference, unbeknown to her fellow councillors.

It is understood to be the first ratepayer-funded overseas trip that has
not been approved by the full council, with Mayor John Mitchell and
others only learning about it days before her departure last Tuesday.

The trip was given the green light by chief executive officer Stephen
Griffin in October, under a policy that allows the CEO to endorse
spending if it doesn't take a councillor's total costs for the financial
year over $3000.

After an internal inquiry, it has since emerged that Cr Farrell has exceeded the limit
by several hundred dollars and now needs the support of her colleagues to gain an
additional $1500 for the next four months.

Cr Mitchell said officers had alerted the Beangala Ward councillor to
her over-spend, which occurred after she attended functions in January.

"She has been asked to apply through a notice of motion at Tuesday's meeting for an extension (of funds)," Cr Mitchell said.

The councillors' expenses and facilities policy allocates $3000 per year
for training programs, conferences and functions for ward and portfolio-related
attendances.

Any amount in excess is subject to the decision of the council.

Cr Farrell would be familiar with the policy, having controlled the
council's governance and democracy portfolio for six years before her
removal in January last year.

Cr Farrell, who returned on Saturday from the three-day conference in Auckland, yesterday declined to comment.

She confirmed last week she would be writing a report on her findings from
the event, that she hoped would be made publicly available.

She has previously come under fire for choosing to talk about the 2008 and
2010 trips which cost $1870 and $2595 respectively instead of
providing a written report that could have been accessed by the public.

Cr Farrell chairs the Geelong Gambling Advisory Committee and serves as a
member of the Victorian Local Government Working Group on Gambling.


Related Coverage
Jan Farrell's overseas trip under fire
Jan Farrell's war of words over code of conduct


Your Say
"We all complain, we all whinge, we write in our objections about this Councillor.
Now is the time, if we are all sincere, to confront this Councillor
at the full Council meeting to be held at Drysdale this Tuesday (28 Feb).
Let the Council know how we all feel and demand Cllr Farrell’s resignation
effective immediately. Or are all commentators regarding this subject
just rhetoric complainers."
Arty
_______________________
I grew up riding around here,
opposite Avalon...

Geelong Grammar School Lagoon (1961)


Geelong Grammar School - location.


...and around Lara and The You Yangs,
and into the Saddlers in the City,
and down to Breakwater for Pony Club Camp...

and down past Torquay to Jan Juc and Bells Beach
for the summer...
Smile

Portrait of a boy riding a kelpie,
a form of Water Horse
by
Theodor Kittelsen


Red Dog (Pilbara) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Red Dog (c. 1971 – 21 November 1979)
was a Kelpie/cattle dog cross that was well known
for his travels through Western Australia's Pilbara region.
There is a ...

Red Dog (film) - Red Dog (novel) - Red Dog (short story)


Red Dog dominated the 2011 Inside Film Awards.
Nominated in nine categories, it won seven.
It received the Best Feature Film award, as well as:

  • Best Actor – Josh Lucas
  • Best Direction – Kriv Stenders
  • Best Script
  • Best Cinematography
  • Best Music
  • Best Box Office Achievement
  • It missed winning Best Editing and Best Production Design.


...dated 22 November, the day after Red Dog passed away.



true lilly wrote:Jolie’s right leg
Andrew Bolt Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 02:19pm


No, I’ve got no idea, either. But it’s clearly a recurring problem:


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A bit old hat. The late Sonia McMahon stole the leg show a long time ago
when visiting the White House.

Lisle of Manly (Reply)
Tue 28 Feb 12 (03:06pm)


In 1971 Sonia McMahon created a sensation when she wore a white evening dress
with a split to the very top of the thigh when visiting the Whitehouse.

It sent diplomatic ripples around the world but no doubt thrilled President Nixon. Looking back at the photos, I must say she looked fabulous.


Mem of Kew (Reply)
Tue 28 Feb 12 (03:06pm)

Events and issues that made the news in 1971 - National Archives of ...
www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/cabinet/.../1971-events-issues.asp...
During 1971 new attitudes demanded new policies, and old arguments .... The crucial emerging issues in 1971 were the formal recognition of China, ... that the Labor leader's China visit coincided with Henry Kissinger's secret trip to ... Sonia McMahon wore a figure-hugging dress split to the thigh to a White ...
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Holt and U.S President John F. Kennedy in the Oval Office in 1963.


Prime Minister Harold Holt with U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson in October 1966.


Holt during a visit to US president Lyndon B. Johnson 1 June
1967


His term as Prime Minister was brought to an early and dramatic end
in December 1967
when he disappeared while swimming at Cheviot Beach
near Portsea, Victoria
, and was presumed drowned.


Holt's disappearance triggered a leadership crisis in the Liberal Party
which briefly raised the possibility of a split in the Coalition.

On the morning of 18 December Country Party leader John McEwen publicly declared
that neither he nor his Country Party colleagues would serve in a Coalition

if the deputy Liberal leader William McMahon were elected as Liberal leader.


In 1983, British journalist Anthony Grey published a controversial book
in which he claimed that Holt had been an agent for
the People's Republic of China
and that he had been
picked up by a Chinese submarine off Portsea and taken to China.


In 1968 the newly commissioned
United States Navy Knox class destroyer escort
USS Harold E. Holt (FF-1074) was named in his honour.

She was launched by Holt's widow Dame Zara
at the Todd Shipyards in Los Angeles on 3 May 1969,
and was the first American warship
to bear the name of a foreign leader.


In 1969 a plaque commemorating Holt was bolted to the seafloor off
Cheviot Beach after a memorial ceremony. It bears the inscription:


In memory of Harold Holt, Prime Minister of Australia, who loved the sea and disappeared hereabouts on 17 December 1967.
Other memorials include:
the suburb of Holt, Australian Capital Territory


the Naval Communication Station Harold E. Holt


the Division of Holt, an electoral district in the
Australian House of Representatives in Victoria

a sundial and garden in the Fitzroy Gardens, Melbourne


a wing for boarders at Wesley College, Melbourne


the Harold Holt Fisheries Reserves –
five protected areas in southern Port Phillip,
located at Swan Bay, Point Lonsdale, Mud Islands,

Point Nepean and Pope’s Eye (The Annulus).


By way of a folk memorial, he is recalled in the Australian vernacular expression
"do a Harold Holt" (or "do the Harry"), rhyming slang for "do a bolt" meaning
"to disappear suddenly and without explanation", although this is usually employed
in the context of disappearance from a social gathering rather than a case of presumed
death.[13]


Melbourne's Harold Holt Swim Centre Photo by Lincoln Ponton


Yes, CAUTION indeed,
VERY, 'DEEP WATER'...


Prime Minister Harold Holt with
US Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara
at The Pentagon in July 1966.
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Labor powerbroker Arbib quits


4:18PM
Jessica Marszalek

UPDATE:

ASSISTANT Treasurer Mark Arbib has resigned as a minister and senator,
sending shockwaves through Canberra.

29 comments on this story

  • Labor spill: 'Ugly' leadership saga over - PM
  • Ballot aftermath
  • Video: Street Talk - What now for KRudd?
  • Phillip Hudson: Ballot a thumping win for Gillard
  • Pictures: Rudd and Gillard prepare for battle


Labor powerbroker Arbib quits

5:22PM
Jessica Marszalek
UPDATE:
ASSISTANT Treasurer Mark Arbib has resigned as a minister and senator,
sending shockwaves through Canberra.

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Post  true lilly on Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:35 pm

K-Federino wrote:sod I'd make a perfect Moriarty,

could you change my name please

In my life I am a type of moriarty

physically unthreatened ( ... that was a joke, right? )
but untamedly psychotic, lol
By God we shall gain vital energy,
And he himself will tread down our adversaries.


Faceless men show Gillard who’s boss
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Oaktoad (Reply) Wed 29 Feb 12 (07:09am)
More wonderful news Piers. Gillard has absolutely no judgement at all
which is why the faceless men have to step in to control any major
decisions - at all times.

Little Bobby walks up to his dad and asks, “What is Politics?”

Dad says, “Well son, let me try to explain it this way: I am the head of
the family, so call me The Prime Minister. Your mother is the
administrator of the money, so we call her the Government. We are here
to take care of your needs, so we will call you the People. The nanny,
we will consider her the Working Class. Your baby brother, we will call
him the Future. Now think about that and see if it makes sense.”

So little Bobby goes off to bed thinking about what his Dad has just explained to him.

Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying, so he gets up to
check on him. He finds that the baby has severely soiled his nappy. So
little Bobby goes to his parent’s room and finds his mother asleep.

Not wanting to wake her, he then goes to the nanny’s room. Finding the
door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and sees his father in bed with the
nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed.

The next morning, little Bobby says to his father, “Dad, I think I understand
the concept of politics now.”

The father says, “Good, son, tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about.”

Little Bobby replies, “The Prime Minister is screwing the Working Class
while the Government is sound asleep. The People are being ignored and
the Future is in deep shit.”


...and what oaktoad replied to...


Piers Akerman Wednesday, February 29, 2012 at 06:16am
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The faceless men, the ALP’s faction leaders have given Julia Gillard a
tap-dancing lesson and shown her really runs the government.

Yesterday the vetoed her decision to replace Senator Mark Arbib as a NSW
Senator with Bob Carr, the former long-serving NSW Premier.

According to Labor insiders, Carr, who does not drive, was booked to fly
from Sydney to Canberra to accept the nomination and was actually in a
car en route to the airport when word came that the faceless men had
given his appointment by Gillard the thumbs down.


NSW Labor Party secretary Sam Dastyari later admitted he had a discussion with Carr on Monday night about the Senate vacancy.

Carr was just collateral damage in Gillard’s struggle for authority.

The
real prize was the position of Foreign Minister left vacant by failed
prime ministerial pretender Kevin Rudd after his exit to the backbench.

It is understood that the factional bosses were furious when they learnt that Gillard
had offered Carr the post if he took the vacant Senate seat.


That was too much for a number of senior Labor figures, who demanded
that Gillard fill the vacancy with one of those who had supported her in
the bloody leadership battle, Defence Minister Stephen Smith or
Regional Minister Simon Crean.

Gillard, who had insisted on nominating members of her Cabinet following
the precedent set by Rudd when he became prime minister in 2007, was
told to call Carr and tell him that the job she had discussed with him a
week earlier was no longer available.

It was not hers to give, she was told by the factional bosses. She had
been rolled, a day after her victory over Rudd which supposedly ended
the bloodletting and restored her authority.

The faceless factional bosses have revealed that Gillard is just as
hollow now as she was when she took the prime ministership with the help
of the turncoat Independents and the slimy Greens.

Its tough for Carr, an expert on US history, and a deep thinker who has
long harboured an ambition to round out his public service with a stint
as foreign minister.

But his experience should be a warning to those silly Australians
who still think that Gillard can deliver - anything.

What Gillard says cannot be trusted.


Her word is worthless, she can’t deliver what she promises.

As Bob Carr has now found out to his humiliation.


...along with the other most insightful comments on his blog,
indicate that while The CONspiracy Industry has been,
"waking" people up, TO GIVE THEM THEIR SLEEPING PILLS! -
as 'they' do in hospitals, nursing homes and 'nut houses' -
(ah, the God Damned, 'health' services and medical BEAST),
'their' greatest effect has been to rouse those with Spirits
that HUNGER and THIRST For JUSTICE.

Craig Thomson’s credit card audit

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the Labor leadership battle is the
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Atheism is a faith choice
...a Free Will Choice, to REMAIN IGNORANT of
God's loving warning signs and calls to Eternal LIFE.


Clear signs, for all who choose to seek to know and serve God,
with their whole hearts and minds, and stop denying The Holy Spirit of Truth,
that reveals
The Great, World Blinding, Apostasy of the FALSE, 'out of Egypt', time line.


Psalms 60:1-12

To the director on The Lily of Reminder. Mik´tam. Of David.
For teaching.
When he engaged in a struggle with A´ram-na·ha·ra´im and
A´ram-Zo´bah, and Jo´ab proceeded to return and strike down E´dom in the
Valley of Salt, even twelve thousand.

[[To the chief Musician 5329 upon Shushaneduth 7802, Michtam 4387 of David 1732, to teach 3925 ; when he strove 5327 with Aramnaharaim 763 5104 and with Aramzobah 760, when Joab 3097 returned 7725 , and smote 5221 of Edom 123 in the valley 1516 of salt 4417 twelve 8147 6240 thousand 505.]]

1;O God 430, thou hast cast us off 2186 , thou hast scattered 6555 us, thou hast been displeased 599 ; O turn thyself to us again 7725 .

Read all the descriptive meanings of God's Word here:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=60&v=1&t=KJV#1

1
O God, you have cast us off, you have broken through us,
You have become incensed. You should restore us.

2
You have caused the earth to rock, you have split it open.
Heal its breaches, for it has tottered.

3
You have caused your people to see hardship.
You have made us drink wine sending us reeling.

4
You have given to those fearing you a signal
To flee zigzag on account of the bow. Se´lah.

5
In order that your beloved ones may be rescued,
O do save with your right hand and answer us.

6
God himself has spoken in his holiness:
“I will exult, I will give out She´chem as a portion;
And the low plain of Suc´coth I shall measure off.

7
Gil´e·ad belongs to me and Ma·nas´seh belongs to me,
And E´phra·im is the fortress of my head one;
Judah is my commander’s staff.

8
Mo´ab is my washing pot.
Over E´dom I shall throw my sandal.
Over Phi·lis´ti·a I shall shout in triumph.”

9
Who will bring me to the besieged city?
Who will certainly lead me as far as E´dom?

10
Is it not you, O God, who have cast us off
And who do not go forth with our armies as God?

11
Do give us assistance from distress,
As salvation by earthling man is worthless.

12
By God we shall gain vital energy,
And he himself will tread down our adversaries.
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Greens attack Coalition free speech plans

4:25PM

Matthew Johnston

UPDATE: THE Greens have hit out at
the Coalition's plan to change free speech restrictions
in racial discrimination law.

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Sydney: Audit questions prostitutes cash

Remember, it IS 'they',
the 'hate and blame God for man's evils', mobs, who
SHOVE 'their' RELIGION down the World's throat,
FORCING YOU to BELIEVE, SAY and DO what
'they' LIE YOU MUST, 'to survive'.

Whereas it IS GOD Who tells us to
SEEK, QUESTION and TEST, ALL THINGS.

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Post  true lilly on Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:22 pm

Since before the invention of 'Dan Brown/author', there has been much chatter
about 'Vatican Secrets' 'being leaked' that 'will destroy the Christian faith'.

This will only be true for those who put their 'faith' in the 'out of Egypt' apostasy.

The Secret (that isn't so secret anymore), is that God's Word covers the entire
time line of the earth.

Here is a current distraction/diversion from further spreading of The Secret...

"Lux in Arcana (Light in the Secret)", is not on The Secret,
those who fall for it, will be weighed to be found wanting...


Pope's orders: Vatican cracks the Da Vinci Code
by:From correspondents in Rome

From:AP

March 01, 2012
10:48AM

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A letter on silk from the Grand Empress Dowager Helena Wang to the Pope
with a request for help, dated November 4, 1650
, on display at the "Lux in Archana"
in Rome.
Picture: AP
Source: AP


"Lux in Arcana" goes on show in Rome
Manuscripts, parchments made available by Vatican

Archives formed key setting for Dan Bronw novel

THE papal order in which Martin Luther was excommunicated and a
letter by England's King Henry VIII asking for an annulment of his first
marriage are among 100 items from the Vatican Secret Archives to go on
display overnight in Rome.

Titled "Lux in Arcana (Light in the Secret) - The Vatican Secret
Archives Reveals Itself," the exhibition is being held at the city's
Capitoline Museums.

It contains manuscripts, parchments and
registers which are usually only viewed by scholars who have obtained
special permission from the Vatican.


The exhibition includes
written exchanges between a long succession of popes and various world
leaders and famous historical figures, including Italian Renaissance
master Michelangelo, French Enlightenment author Voltaire and US
President Abraham Lincoln.

Other
documents on display are related to the separate heresy trials against
astronomer Galileo Galilei and the warrior priests of the Knights
Templar.

The exhibition is scheduled to run until September.

The Vatican Secret Archives, a collection spanning more than 1000 years, are
stored in climate controlled chambers in Vatican City.

Interest in the archives has increased in recent years among the general public
after they formed one of the key settings of US author Dan Brown's
international bestselling novel, Angels and Demons, which spawned a Hollywood film of the same name.

The book deals with a fictional conspiracy by a secret order, the Illuminati, to destroy the Vatican.

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Personally, I would like to see their FULL Collection of MAPS. Wink
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Union admits staff paid to protest
at Campbell Newman announcement

by:Sarah Vogler
From:
The Courier-Mail
March 03, 2012
8:33AM


Union staff accost Campbell Newman at Toowong State School. Picture: Mark Calleja
Source: The Courier-Mail


A QUEENSLAND union has admitted its staff were sent to accost Campbell Newman on the hustings in Brisbane.

Several protesters staged a fake auction outside the Toowong State School
as Mr Newman arrived to announce a $54 million prep school policy,
alleging he would sell Education Queensland assets.


They denied to reporters any political links but one later revealed on her Twitter page
she was getting paid to protest.


The woman, who worked for
United Voice,

(that's it, Keep BRAINWASHING THE KIDS!
CUNTS!)

was sacked yesterday afternoon when it was also revealed
she had posted photographs of
a phone survey being conducted by the union
in the Ashgrove electorate,
which included private details of residents.


The LNP said the tweets were proof unions were "misusing members' money
and paying staff to stage protests.


"Labor have been caught red-handed," an LNP spokesman said.

United Voice state secretary Gary Bullock confirmed
the union was behind the protest.


He said the union also had a commercial arrangement with the ALP to
conduct the phone survey but said employees had been instructed to
maintain the privacy of residents called.


ALP flyer 'politicises school children'

(ooh look, even their hair 'leans Left'...FFS!)

Labor at pains to seek help from Greens
Wow, didn't take long for The Greens to 'Come Out'
and Prove their No friends of traditional Labor voters
(people who WORK for a living), just long enough to
INFECT Labor with the GREENS FILTHY Policies and
Out them as REDDER Than STALIN...to distract from
The Fact that The GREENS Are BLACKER Than DEATH.


Oh and get ready, for all those DUTCH who have been
White-anting away at The Australian Spirit, to suddenly
start 'claiming', "we're not disloyal, we're 100% Aussie."


Ministers agree to
get tough on dual nationality,
also for the Dutch

Friday 02 March 2012

Ministers on Friday decided to press ahead with legislation aimed at
reducing the number of people with dual nationality,
despite widespread opposition.


The legislation will require everyone who becomes Dutch to give up
their original nationality if legally possible. Dutch nationals who take
a second nationality will also automatically lose their Dutch passports.


New Dutch nationals will also have a family income of at least the minimum wage
and show that they have at least two years work experience
or have some sort of professional qualification.

© DutchNews.nl

Readers Comments:
I think this is a very unwise and rather idiotic decision. Dutch-born
people who might be happen to be living in other countries have, by
international law, automatic citizen rights regardless of what other
citizen status they may have.
In fact many thousands of Dutch-born people
living in places such as Australia
, New Zealand and Canada
with be affected by this rather stupid decision which is, after all,
no more and no less just to pander to an extremist right agenda.
By Henk Luf 2-3-2012 3:23PM


But I also notice the comments stating expats who have lived
and worked long enough to qualify as 'permanents', won't have
to sell up their homes and move if they find themselves unemployed.

Not that they'll have many to sell to when the exodus steps up!


Prince Friso being moved to London
Thursday 01 March 2012

Prince Friso, who has been in a coma
for nearly two weeks following a skiing accident,
is being moved by hospital plane to a specialist clinic in London
on Thursday afternoon, according to various media reports.


Queen Beatrix' second son has severe brain damage after spending at
least 25 minutes under snow after being hit by an avalanche in the
Austrian resort of Lech. The prince was being cared for in hospital in
Innsbruck.


The prince is being moved to London
because that is where he lives
with his wife Mabel and two daughters,
Austrian papers said.

The Netherlands does not have
a clinic specialising in
stimulating older coma patients.
(why would they, when they also
MADE IT LEGAL TO KILL BABIES!)


The state information service RVD declined to comment on the reports.
© DutchNews.nl
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Post  true lilly on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:48 am

Interesting that this IMAGE was FROM Murdoch's PerthNow,
rather than Murdoch's Victorian Herald Sun...
where it was SEEN and Reported:

Meteor shower dazzles the Victorian sky
by:Angus Thompson
From:Herald Sun
March 05, 2012 12:00AM


A meteor shower lit up the sky across Victoria last night.
PerthNow


VICTORIANS have reported seeing a meteor shower dazzle the sky in several locations throughout the state last night.

Police have also had reports of the cosmic activity
appearing over Tasmania and the ACT
at about 10.45pm.


Did you see the meteor shower? Send your photos or video to
news@heraldsun.com.au

Weather bureau duty forecaster Terry Ryan said the phenomena
was most likely a meteor shower
but could also be a disintegrating satellite
that veered too close to the atmosphere.

The astronomical activity was seen
from Warrnambool, Lakes Entrance, Mentone, and Melbourne, as well as
Devonport in Tasmania and Canberra.


....and earlier...on the other side of the world...
while we had a 'shower' of 'meteors'...their one was
Orange...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17248959
4 March 2012
Last updated at 11:59 GMT


Police forces say they have received a number of calls reporting
what is believed to have been a meteor.


A "huge fireball" was reported
travelling from northern Scotland to southern England at about 21:40 GMT,
amid fears a plane had crashed.


Police received reports of a "bright light" and "orange glow",
but aircraft-related incidents were ruled out.
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Post  daddlepoms on Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:06 am

true lilly wrote:Interesting that this IMAGE was FROM Murdoch's PerthNow,
rather than Murdoch's Victorian Herald Sun...
where it was SEEN and Reported:

Meteor shower dazzles the Victorian sky
by:Angus Thompson
From:Herald Sun
March 05, 2012 12:00AM


A meteor shower lit up the sky across Victoria last night.
PerthNow


VICTORIANS have reported seeing a meteor shower dazzle the sky in several locations throughout the state last night.

Police have also had reports of the cosmic activity
appearing over Tasmania and the ACT
at about 10.45pm.


Did you see the meteor shower? Send your photos or video to
news@heraldsun.com.au

Weather bureau duty forecaster Terry Ryan said the phenomena
was most likely a meteor shower
but could also be a disintegrating satellite
that veered too close to the atmosphere.

The astronomical activity was seen
from Warrnambool, Lakes Entrance, Mentone, and Melbourne, as well as
Devonport in Tasmania and Canberra.


....and earlier...on the other side of the world...
while we had a 'shower' of 'meteors'...their one was
Orange...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17248959
4 March 2012
Last updated at 11:59 GMT


Police forces say they have received a number of calls reporting
what is believed to have been a meteor.


A "huge fireball" was reported
travelling from northern Scotland to southern England at about 21:40 GMT,
amid fears a plane had crashed.


Police received reports of a "bright light" and "orange glow",
but aircraft-related incidents were ruled out.

good omen
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Post  true lilly on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:03 pm

K-Federino wrote:
true lilly wrote:Interesting that this IMAGE was FROM Murdoch's PerthNow,
rather than Murdoch's Victorian Herald Sun...
where it was SEEN and Reported:

Meteor shower dazzles the Victorian sky
by:Angus Thompson
From:Herald Sun
March 05, 2012 12:00AM


A meteor shower lit up the sky across Victoria last night.
PerthNow


VICTORIANS have reported seeing a meteor shower dazzle the sky in several locations throughout the state last night.

Police have also had reports of the cosmic activity
appearing over Tasmania and the ACT
at about 10.45pm.


Did you see the meteor shower? Send your photos or video to
news@heraldsun.com.au

Weather bureau duty forecaster Terry Ryan said the phenomena
was most likely a meteor shower
but could also be a disintegrating satellite
that veered too close to the atmosphere.

The astronomical activity was seen
from Warrnambool, Lakes Entrance, Mentone, and Melbourne, as well as
Devonport in Tasmania and Canberra.


....and earlier...on the other side of the world...
while we had a 'shower' of 'meteors'...their one was
Orange...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17248959
4 March 2012
Last updated at 11:59 GMT


Police forces say they have received a number of calls reporting
what is believed to have been a meteor.


A "huge fireball" was reported
travelling from northern Scotland to southern England at about 21:40 GMT,
amid fears a plane had crashed.


Police received reports of a "bright light" and "orange glow",
but aircraft-related incidents were ruled out.

good omen

Aleks Devic Herald Sun March 05, 2012
6:45AM

UPDATE: A FIREBALL that streaked through the sky last night had many thinking a plane had crashed.

The meteor was seen across Victoria at about 10.45pm, including at
Anglesea, Frankston, Berwick, Cairnlea, Tullamarine, Dandenong.


The fireball even caused a sensation in the UK with police inundated
with emergency phone calls.


Did you see the meteor shower? Send your photos or video to news@heraldsun.com.au

The control tower in Melbourne's Tullamarine Airport was also flooded with
calls from locals fearing there had been a plane crash.


Astronomer David Reneke said it was unusual that the fireball was spotted across
the globe
and said it was probably the lead up to a meteor shower that
was about to happen.


He said usually at the end February fireballs were often seen but not in March.
"To be seen around the world - it's crazy," he said.

"They are just slow moving bits of rock that catch on fire and burn.

"On occasions they even explode."

Herald Sun reader Brad Dorrington, of Newborough, witnessed the sky show.
"(It) looked amazing several red hot glows with a trail behind them with what looked to be dust behind it," he said.

Benjamin Cross, of Berwick, said it was surreal to glimpse the fiery tail.
"(It was) the most amazing thing I have ever seen," he said.

- with Angus Thompson
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...and The BANNER IMAGE/STORY, at the top of the main page, with this update:




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Post  daddlepoms on Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:03 pm

true lilly wrote:



QM2

nother good omen
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Post  true lilly on Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:45 am

Ciggy the FINKlestein...

See what and whom, I've been up against all these years.

Bugger debate. There is no debate.
We've been drowning in real world evidence for years.

7 years and still they have no counter argument,
so hey, No argument, No debate, No expression of Independent opinion.
Simply make it illegal to disagree with BALD FACED LIES.

Oh, there are more links to quotes in these articles at the Title/Links
that I just can't keep trying to edit back in, while also trying to edit back to legible.
Finklestein’s media council: will sceptics be censored?
Andrew Bolt – Tuesday, March 06, 12 (12:07 am)

Australian Climate Madness warns the Finkelstein report could lead to warming sceptics being censored by the proposed new News Media Council. And it is right.

In detaling the alleged sins of the media, Finkelstein strays way
beyond his competence in assessing what’s bias in the climate debate,
and what is a legiitimate protest against overwhelming and deceitful
propaganda and an utterly useless and ruinous tax:


4.33 One of the conclusions reached in the report (a particularly loaded one by by the far-Left Australian Centre for Independent Journalism) was this:

The two biggest News Ltd tabloids—the Herald
Sun and the Daily Telegraph—have been so biased in their coverage that
it is fair to say they ‘campaigned’ against the policy rather than
covered it.


Finkelstein even cites sympathetically Robert Manne, a fervent alarmist
with zero qualifications in climate science and little apparent
knowledge of the issues in contention:


4.40 For instance, the Inquiry heard from Professor Robert Manne who,
earlier in 2011, had written an extensive critique of The Australian
newspaper in Quarterly Essay entitled ‘Bad News: Murdoch’s Australian
and the Shaping of the Nation’ that examined seven case studies of the
newspaper’s coverage of issues.


4.41 One of his case studies concerned coverage of climate change
policy and his findings mirrored those of the Australian Centre for
Independent Journalism. Professor Manne’s research found that articles
unfavourable to action on climate change outnumbered favourable articles
by a ratio of four to one.

4.42 In his response to Professor Manne’s work, Paul Kelly who is The
Australian’s editor-­?at-­?large, did not refute Manne’s statistics.
Instead, he argued that Manne’s position was based on a ‘rejection of
debate’ about the science of climate change:

One reason for the public’s backlash making carbon pricing
so unpopular was the precise attitude [Manne] took.
While pretending to be rational his rejection of debate was really
faith-­based dogmatism and the Australian public didn’t like being told
what to think by patronising experts.


Note that Finkelstein makes no comment at all about the far more overwhelming bias of, say, The Age, which reports the climate debate from a pro-warmist perspective so one-sided that even its own staff passed a statement of protest against their editor-in-chief,
after he virtually took dictation from a green group, Nor is any
mention made of the overwheming warmist bias of the ABC. No, the only
bias and alleged campaigning that concerns Finkelstein is that of
sceptics.

Worse, he strongly suggests that this “bias” towards the sceptic’s side
of the argument is one that needs fixing by his government-backed News
Media Council.

Finkelstein raises the climate coverage of The Australian to illustrate this concern:

… in news reporting it is expected by the public, as
well as by professional journalists, that the coverage will be fair and
accurate. Nonetheless, there is a widely-held public view that, despite
industry-developed codes of practice that state this, the reporting of
news is not fair, accurate and balanced.


And after discussing The Australian’s alleged sins - and other media failings such as breaches of privacy - Finkelstein concludes:

Across each of the areas which have been identified, it is relatively easy to identify failings in journalistic standards.
One proponent of the status quo of self-regulation suggested that
‘while it is trivially easy to demonstrate inaccuracies or biases or
ethical lapses in the press, the proper solution to such failures seems
to be working quite well’ . The last assertion will be subject of
detailed consideration later. It is sufficient at this juncture to make
the following points. The ease of identifications of failings comes from
the fact that they are not rare or infrequent. While some might be
trivial, many are not. Their persistent recurrence over the years indicates that existing measures to deal with the problem need improvement.


This strongly suggests that Finkelstein believes his proposed News Media
Council could be used to stop or limit news organsations from
publishing reports casting doubt on global warming theory and useless
measures to “stop” global warming.

I cannot see how it can be read any other way. In this aspect alone, Finkelstein’s report is alarming. Even outrageous..

No wonder Australian Climate Madness is worried. After all, Finkelstein
proposes that his News Media Council regulate just such blogs as well,
and even ones far smaller, with just 40 hits a day.

How frightening that this kind of censorship - or, rather, “improvement” - potentially confronts us.
_____________________________

The warmists’ straw man: “We never said it wouldn’t rain”
Andrew Bolt – Monday, March 05, 12 (05:42 pm)

Is the gullible Anthony Sharwood saying Tim Flannery isn’t credible?
And why does he falsely claim that the criticism of alarmist scientist
is that they said it “would never rain again”? What a ludicrous and
deceptive exaggeration:


Dr Karl Braganza of the National Climate Centre… says
that any prediction whatsoever of higher or lower rainfall as a result
of climate change is complete bunkum.

That’ll come as a surprise to those who promoted the straw man argument
that the climate scientists all told us in the midst of the drought that
it would never rain again.

In fact, the reputable scientists never said anything of the sort. (Note to Sharwood: who ever claimed that they did? Quotes, please.)

“I have trawled everything we put out to see if someone from one of our
offices said anything like this, but no, we definitely never put out
statements that it would never rain again,” says Dr Karl.

“The scientists at the BoM (Bureau of Meteorology)and CSIRO made
continuous statements that the drought will end, and that [the dry spell
in the 2000s] wasn’t permanent...”

Here’s all of that in a nutshell. No one reputable ever said it wouldn’t rain again.
All they said is, it’s getting warmer and we don’t really know what
comes next. Maybe it’s more rain. Maybe it’s less. We’re still working
on that.


Sharwood huffs and puffs in indignation about an accusation that was
never made - that scientists claimed “it would never rain again”. This
is a red herring.

I suspect Sharwood knows that the real accusation is crucially
different: that some prominent warmists claimed global warming was
indeed bringing less rain, the drought could be permanent and our dams
could or would run out of water. What’s more, Braganza is wrong, and
some of those alarmists came from the Bureau of Meteorology.

A sample:


Greens leader Bob Brown in 2006:
<blockquote>From melting polar ice to the spectre of permanent drought in previously productive farmlands,the
(World Meteorological Bureau’s) report makes clear that climate change
is not just a future threat, it is damaging Australia now.
</blockquote>Brown in 2008:

Already, (Rudd government adviser Ross Garnaut’s)
daunting data of a 10 per cent chance of no flow at all in the
Murray-Darling river system in future years is being overtaken by data
indicating that drought is the new norm across Australia’s greatest food bowl.


The Sydney Morning Herald in 2008:

This drought may never break

IT MAY be time to stop describing south-eastern Australia as gripped by
drought and instead accept the extreme dry as permanent, one of the
nation’s most senior weather experts warned yesterday.

“Perhaps we should call it our new climate,” said the Bureau of Meteorology’s head of climate analysis, David Jones....

“There is a debate in the climate community, after … close to 12 years
of drought, whether this is something permanent. Certainly, in terms of
temperature, that seems to be our reality, and that there is no turning
back....”


Jones to the University of East Anglia in 2007:

Truth be know, climate change here is now running so rampant that we don’t need meteorological data to see it. Almost everyone of our cities is on the verge of running out of water and our largest irrigation system (the Murray Darling Basin is on the verge of collapse...

The Age in 2009:

A three-year collaboration between the Bureau of
Meteorology and CSIRO has confirmed what many scientists long suspected:
that the 13-year drought is not just a natural dry stretch but a shift
related to climate change…

‘’It’s reasonable to say that a lot of the current drought of the last
12 to 13 years is due to ongoing global warming,’’ said the bureau’s
Bertrand Timbal.

‘’In the minds of a lot of people, the rainfall we had in the 1950s,
1960s and 1970s was a benchmark. A lot of our [water and agriculture] planning was done during that time. But we are just not going to have that sort of good rain again as long as the system is warming up.’’...[/i]

Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery in 2007:

Flannery predicted cities such as Brisbane would
never again have dam-filling rains, as global warming had caused “a 20 per
cent decrease in rainfall in some areas” and made the soil too hot, “so even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and river systems … “.


Warmist scientist David Karoly, 2003:

The Murray-Darling Basin… covers towns north to Toowoomba, west to
Broken
Hill and south to Victoria and South Australia… Drought severity in the
Murray Darling is increasing with global warming… This is the first drought in Australia where the impact of human-induced global warming can be clearly observed.


Queensland Conservation Council:


Reduced rainfall due to Global warming will lead to decreased overall water availability… In part, the SEQ water crisis has been caused by climate change


Queensland Premier Peter Beattie, 2007:

Given the current uncertainty about the likely impact of climate change on rainfall patterns in (South Eastern Queensland) over coming years, it is only prudent to assume at this stage that lower than usual rainfalls could eventuate....

Flannery again:


Overthe past 50 years southern Australia has lost about 20 per cent of its rainfall, and one cause is almost certainly global
warming....Desalination plants can provide insurance against drought. In Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, water supplies are so low they need desalinated water urgently, possibly in as little as 18 months.


Climate Change Minister Penny Wong, 2008:


We know the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said by 2050 that Australia should expect around about a 25 per cent reduction in rainfall in the southern part of the Australia…
So there is a very, very sound body of evidence that indicates that
climate change is and will have an impact on rainfall in the
Murray-Darling Basin and in southern Australia.


UPDATE

Remember how 60 Minutes (and the CONspiracy Industry 'Stars' that still attack me,
for warning folk back then, to NOT fall for it), whipped up the “permanent drought” scare in 2005?


CHARLES WOOLEY: While many farmers believe that drought is just part of a
natural cycle, scientist Dr Tim Flannery sees much broader and more
sinister forces at work. We live in a new world where global warming and
climate change now have Australia on the edge of permanent drought.

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We are in by far the worst position of any country that I’ve had a look at in terms of climate change.

CHARLES WOOLEY: The worst of any country?

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: Yes. When you look right across the continent,
what has happened is that the winter rainfall zone that has been the
heart and soul of the bread basket of Australia is declining. The amount
of rainfall through winter is declining. On the east coast of Australia
we have a parallel effect where we are getting these El Ninos back to
back. We’re getting one drought after the other and eastern Australia is
suffering from that. So put together, you have the continent from Perth
through to Brisbane suffering severe water deficits.

CHARLES WOOLEY: If Tim Flannery is right, the new weather regime has southern Australia drying out permanently.


(Thanks to readers Ray and Mark.)



And that's only this week, lets forget the inconvenient truth of the last couple of years of
floods, that if we had have built dams and managed our annual monsoonal dumps, that
flow and flood from the north to the south in heavy years, we wouldn't have had any dry years, or such damaging floods from wild, uncontrolled flows.

It's not rocket science, it's simple hydrology that primitive desert cultures have used successfully for thousands of years.

But lets not kid ourselves, those Greenies are NOT idiots, and they do NOT want to 'save the planet', but DESTROY LIFE, and have been doing a BLOODY 'good' job of that for generations.
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Black Saturday fire was arson, jury hears


AAP
THE fatal Churchill Black Saturday
bushfire
was deliberately lit in two places
by Brendan James Sokaluk,
a prosecutor has told a jury.


165 Nathalia residents evacuate


Michelle Ainsworth
NATHALIA residents are evacuating the town
after the SES warned
more than 400 homes were at risk of flooding
if the levees breached.

57 comments on this story
Northeast: Victorian towns affected by floods
Pictures: Nathalia floods
Video: Families in Nathalia fight the floods
Pictures: Numurkah floods


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Back in the News...
Pumpkin's dad pens book from jail

AAP
THE Chinese man who abandoned his child in at Southern Cross Station
after strangling his wife in New Zealand has written a book.



Nai Yin Xue is pictured with daughter 'Pumpkin' and his late wife An An Liu.
AFP


THE Chinese man
who abandoned his child
in at Southern Cross Station
after strangling his wife
in New Zealand
has written a book in prison
proclaiming his innocence.



A book penned by Nai Yin Xue, the father of
the girl who became
known as Pumpkin
,

is being sold in Chinese supermarkets in Auckland
with extracts run in the Auckland-based newspaper
New Zealand Chinese Herald
.


"The whole world has accused me of being a murderer,
but I dare not even kill a chicken, not to mention kill my wife,"
Xue says in the book, The New Zealand Herald reports.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Corrections says the department
did not give permission for the book to be published, and it is an offence
under Corrections Regulations for a journalist to publish an interview
with a prisoner without approval of the department's chief executive.

A
Chinese Herald reporter interviewed Xue in prison in 2009 when he first revealed
he was writing a book.

Xue was deported back to New Zealand from the US for trial.
His daughter returned to China to live with her maternal grandmother.
Xue says in the book he dare not even kill a chicken - let alone his wife -
and was found guilty after a woman gave false evidence against him.

The name Pumpkin was a reference to
the Pumpkin Patch clothing label
the child was wearing when discovered.



Pumpkin after she was abandoned at
Southern Cross Station.
Picture: Victoria Police
Supplied

________________________

So still, as at the time, they don't use her real name.

Even after her name was published around the world,
they were 'directed' to keep referring to her as 'Pumpkin'.

Oh and the murdered wife (as if still only incidental to 'the story'),
is only named once.

In fact, there was an awful lot odd about this story and it's reporting.

Oh and 'Pumpkin' was Found SAFE
at SOUTHERN CROSS Station
,
4 months after
Maddie McCann DISAPPEARED.


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Black Saturday fire was arson, jury hears


AAP
THE fatal Churchill Black Saturday
bushfire
was deliberately lit in two places
by Brendan James Sokaluk,
a prosecutor has told a jury.


165 Nathalia residents evacuate


Michelle Ainsworth
NATHALIA residents are evacuating the town
after the SES warned
more than 400 homes were at risk of flooding
if the levees breached.

57 comments on this story
Northeast: Victorian towns affected by floods
Pictures: Nathalia floods
Video: Families in Nathalia fight the floods
Pictures: Numurkah floods

So, is there a day that goes by,
without
what's real, in the real world,
that I warned to watch for,
coming to be, for all to see,
and proving-:
'Ciggy- Lime Lady - lemonpie - barnical bill - Sorcha Faal -
Wonder Woman -Billy Ruben -cori - ioioio - ozpixie -
ownoiz - merlin cove - i_am - el kabong - Cug - cheeb -
nobodyswife - yass - edelweiss pirate - tintin - David Icke
et-bloody-lying-cetera on line trolling names that attack';
to be bloody lying beastly fools...NO.


And I barely even click on,
the best of the best of it,
or,
worst of the worst of it,
let alone speak or post it...



$5 billion water bill bleeds us dry
by:Stephen Drill
From:Herald Sun
March 10, 2012
12:00AM

102 comments

The desalination plant at Wonthaggi and (inset) floods near Nathalia this week.
Herald Sun

VICTORIA would need to be in drought for eight years
before a drop of water was required
from the Wonthaggi desalination plant, scientists say.

But taxpayers will pay more than $5 billion in that time to have access to the water.

As floods swamp the northeast, critics have questioned why the plant was built.


Prof Hector Malano, a water resource management expert at the
University of Melbourne, said Melbourne's current water storages
would last until 2020 even if there were a drought.


"It would be up to eight years depending on the climate and population growth," he said.

"Desalination is the last option
that you want to use.
But once the decision is made
to begin building the plant,
we will be paying for it for some time."


The desalination plant will cost taxpayers $24 billion over 30 years.

Victorians will pay
desalination plant project company AquaSure
$1.8 million a day for access to water at the plant,
even if none is used; $5.2 billion by 2020.


Water storages are 64.7 per cent full after hitting a record low of 25.6 per cent in June 2009.

In further potential pain to taxpayers,
AquaSure has demanded a $1.3 billion loan
to refinance its debt and
a 12-month deadline extension
from the State Government.


It also claimed a $560 million payment this year
even though it doubted the plant would be finished.


Mark Robertson, president of anti-desalination campaigners Watershed,
said the plant should never have been built.


"We survived during the drought with water restrictions and
that didn't cost anything or have the environmental effects," he said.


Water Minister Peter Walsh said
the Labor government had panicked
during the drought

when it ordered the plant.


"The previous government should have acted before the drought occurred
by looking at stormwater and recycled water for non-drinking purposes,"
he said.


Mr Walsh said he would vigorously defend AquaSure's financial claims,
adding he would not sign anything that was not value for money for taxpayers.


An AquaSure spokeswoman said:
"Like any other major project contract,
there are provisions in our contract
with the state for AquaSure to lodge claims
in certain circumstances."

drills@heraldsun.com.au

102 comments on this story

And, it only took about 70-30 years of 'Hollywood',
'A Country Practice', 'Sesame Street', 'Hippy',
'god is dead/only man can save the world' PREACHING,
FASCIST Brainwashing PROPAGANDA,
to WHIP UP THE PANIC 'they' COULD SELL.


David Icke's Official Forums > Main Forums > General >
Sorcha Faal reports
limelady wrote:11-05-2007, 04:12 PM
April 29, 2007

Australia Begins Secret Talks On Evacuating Half Of Continent Due To Epic Drought

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Shocking reports from the Kremlin today are showing that just under one
week from Australian Prime Minister Howard’s urgent plea to his citizens

to pray for rain to fall on their drought ravaged Nation, the
Government of Australia
has entered into secret negotiations with the United States and their
Commonwealth allies for the ‘proposed’ evacuation of upwards of 11
million of its 20 million citizens.


Please read the rest here (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1006.htm)

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Greens and their crazy cronies are holding a gun to our head
Piers Akerman – Thursday, March 08, 12 (07:09 pm)
THE Australian economy is under attack
from international forces allied
to Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s
minority government partner, the Greens.

Continue reading 'Greens and their crazy cronies are holding a gun to our head'
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true lilly wrote:Greens and their crazy cronies are holding a gun to our head
Piers Akerman – Thursday, March 08, 12 (07:09 pm)
THE Australian economy is under attack
from international forces allied
to Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s
minority government partner, the Greens.

Continue reading 'Greens and their crazy cronies are holding a gun to our head'
232 comments

Black Saturday fire was arson, jury hears


AAP
THE fatal Churchill Black Saturday
bushfire
was deliberately lit in two places
by Brendan James Sokaluk,
a prosecutor has told a jury.


165 Nathalia residents evacuate


Michelle Ainsworth
NATHALIA residents are evacuating the town
after the SES warned
more than 400 homes were at risk of flooding
if the levees breached.

57 comments on this story
Northeast: Victorian towns affected by floods
Pictures: Nathalia floods
Video: Families in Nathalia fight the floods
Pictures: Numurkah floods

So, is there a day that goes by,
without
what's real, in the real world,
that I warned to watch for,
coming to be, for all to see,
and proving-:
'Ciggy- Lime Lady - lemonpie - barnical bill - Sorcha Faal -
Wonder Woman -Billy Ruben -cori - ioioio - ozpixie -
ownoiz - merlin cove - i_am - el kabong - Cug - cheeb -
nobodyswife - yass - edelweiss pirate - tintin - David Icke
et-bloody-lying-cetera on line trolling names that attack';
to be bloody lying beastly fools...NO.


And I barely even click on,
the best of the best of it,
or,
worst of the worst of it,
let alone speak or post it...



$5 billion water bill bleeds us dry
by:Stephen Drill
From:Herald Sun
March 10, 2012
12:00AM

102 comments

The desalination plant at Wonthaggi and (inset) floods near Nathalia this week.
Herald Sun

VICTORIA would need to be in drought for eight years
before a drop of water was required
from the Wonthaggi desalination plant, scientists say.

But taxpayers will pay more than $5 billion in that time to have access to the water.

As floods swamp the northeast, critics have questioned why the plant was built.


Prof Hector Malano, a water resource management expert at the
University of Melbourne, said Melbourne's current water storages
would last until 2020 even if there were a drought.


"It would be up to eight years depending on the climate and population growth," he said.

"Desalination is the last option
that you want to use.
But once the decision is made
to begin building the plant,
we will be paying for it for some time."


The desalination plant will cost taxpayers $24 billion over 30 years.

Victorians will pay
desalination plant project company AquaSure
$1.8 million a day for access to water at the plant,
even if none is used; $5.2 billion by 2020.


Water storages are 64.7 per cent full after hitting a record low of 25.6 per cent in June 2009.

In further potential pain to taxpayers,
AquaSure has demanded a $1.3 billion loan
to refinance its debt and
a 12-month deadline extension
from the State Government.


It also claimed a $560 million payment this year
even though it doubted the plant would be finished.


Mark Robertson, president of anti-desalination campaigners Watershed,
said the plant should never have been built.


"We survived during the drought with water restrictions and
that didn't cost anything or have the environmental effects," he said.


Water Minister Peter Walsh said
the Labor government had panicked
during the drought

when it ordered the plant.


"The previous government should have acted before the drought occurred
by looking at stormwater and recycled water for non-drinking purposes,"
he said.


Mr Walsh said he would vigorously defend AquaSure's financial claims,
adding he would not sign anything that was not value for money for taxpayers.


An AquaSure spokeswoman said:
"Like any other major project contract,
there are provisions in our contract
with the state for AquaSure to lodge claims
in certain circumstances."

drills@heraldsun.com.au

102 comments on this story

And, it only took about 70-30 years of 'Hollywood',
'A Country Practice', 'Sesame Street', 'Hippy',
'god is dead/only man can save the world' PREACHING,
FASCIST Brainwashing PROPAGANDA,
to WHIP UP THE PANIC 'they' COULD SELL.


David Icke's Official Forums > Main Forums > General >
Sorcha Faal reports
limelady wrote:11-05-2007, 04:12 PM
April 29, 2007

Australia Begins Secret Talks On Evacuating Half Of Continent Due To Epic Drought

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Shocking reports from the Kremlin today are showing that just under one
week from Australian Prime Minister Howard’s urgent plea to his citizens

to pray for rain to fall on their drought ravaged Nation, the
Government of Australia
has entered into secret negotiations with the United States and their
Commonwealth allies for the ‘proposed’ evacuation of upwards of 11
million of its 20 million citizens.


Please read the rest here (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1006.htm)

What do you dudes and dudettes make of this?

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true lilly wrote:Ciggy the FINKlestein...

See what and whom, I've been up against all these years.

Bugger debate. There is no debate.
We've been drowning in real world evidence for years.

7 years and still they have no counter argument,
so hey, No argument, No debate, No expression of Independent opinion.
Simply make it illegal to disagree with BALD FACED LIES.

Oh, there are more links to quotes in these articles at the Title/Links
that I just can't keep trying to edit back in, while also trying to edit back to legible.
Finklestein’s media council: will sceptics be censored?
Andrew Bolt – Tuesday, March 06, 12 (12:07 am)

Australian Climate Madness warns the Finkelstein report could lead to warming
sceptics being censored by the proposed new News Media Council. And it is right.

In detaling the alleged sins of the media, Finkelstein strays way
beyond his competence in assessing what’s bias in the climate debate,
and what is a legiitimate protest against overwhelming and deceitful
propaganda and an utterly useless and ruinous tax:


4.33
One of the conclusions reached in the report (a particularly loaded one by
the far-Left Australian Centre for Independent Journalism)
was this:

The two biggest News Ltd tabloids—the Herald Sun and the Daily Telegraph—have been
so biased in their coverage that it is fair to say they ‘campaigned’ against the policy rather than covered it.


Finkelstein even cites sympathetically Robert Manne, a fervent alarmist
with zero qualifications in climate science and little apparent knowledge of the issues
in contention:


4.40 For instance, the Inquiry heard from Professor Robert Manne who,
earlier in 2011, had written an extensive critique of The Australian
newspaper in Quarterly Essay entitled ‘Bad News: Murdoch’s Australian
and the Shaping of the Nation’ that examined seven case studies of the
newspaper’s coverage of issues.


4.41 One of his case studies concerned coverage of climate change
policy and his findings mirrored those of the Australian Centre for
Independent Journalism. Professor Manne’s research found that articles
unfavourable to action on climate change outnumbered favourable articles
by a ratio of four to one.

4.42 In his response to Professor Manne’s work, Paul Kelly who is The
Australian’s editor-­?at-­?large, did not refute Manne’s statistics.
Instead, he argued that Manne’s position was based on a ‘rejection of
debate’ about the science of climate change:

One reason for the public’s backlash making carbon pricing
so unpopular was the precise attitude [Manne] took.
While pretending to be rational his rejection of debate was really
faith-­based dogmatism and the Australian public didn’t like being told
what to think by patronising experts.


Note that Finkelstein makes no comment at all about the far more overwhelming bias of,
say, The Age, which reports the climate debate from a pro-warmist perspective so
one-sided that even its own staff passed a statement of protest against their editor-in-chief,
after he virtually took dictation from a green group, Nor is any mention made of the overwheming warmist bias of the ABC.
No, the only bias and alleged campaigning that concerns Finkelstein is that of sceptics.

Worse, he strongly suggests that this “bias” towards the sceptic’s side of the argument
is one that needs fixing by his government-backed News Media Council.

Finkelstein raises the climate coverage of The Australian to illustrate this concern:

… in news reporting it is expected by the public, as well as by professional journalists,
that the coverage will be fair and accurate. Nonetheless, there is a widely-held public view that, despiteindustry-developed codes of practice that state this, the reporting of news is
not fair, accurate and balanced.


And after discussing The Australian’s alleged sins - and other media failings such as breaches of privacy - Finkelstein concludes:

Across each of the areas which have been identified, it is relatively easy
to identify failings in journalistic standards.

One proponent of the status quo of self-regulation suggested that
‘while it is trivially easy to demonstrate inaccuracies
or biases or ethical lapses in the press, the proper solution to such failures seems
to be working quite well’ . The last assertion will be subject of detailed consideration later.
It is sufficient at this juncture to make the following points. The ease of identifications of failings comes fromthe fact that they are not rare or infrequent. While some might be
trivial, many are not. Their persistent recurrence over the years indicates that existing measures to deal with the problem need improvement.


This strongly suggests that Finkelstein believes his proposed News Media Council could be used to stop or limit news organsations from publishing reports casting doubt on global warming theory and useless measures to “stop” global warming.

I cannot see how it can be read any other way.
In this aspect alone, Finkelstein’s report is alarming. Even outrageous..

No wonder Australian Climate Madness is worried. After all, Finkelstein
proposes that his News Media Council regulate just such blogs as well,
and even ones far smaller, with just 40 hits a day.

How frightening that this kind of censorship - or, rather, “improvement” -
potentially confronts us.
_____________________________

The warmists’ straw man: “We never said it wouldn’t rain”
Andrew Bolt – Monday, March 05, 12 (05:42 pm)

Is the gullible Anthony Sharwood saying Tim Flannery isn’t credible?
And why does he falsely claim that the criticism of alarmist scientist
is that they said it “would never rain again”? What a ludicrous and
deceptive exaggeration:


Dr Karl Braganza of the National Climate Centre… says
that any prediction whatsoever of higher or lower rainfall as a result
of climate change is complete bunkum.

That’ll come as a surprise to those who promoted the straw man argument
that the climate scientists all told us in the midst of the drought that
it would never rain again.

In fact, the reputable scientists never said anything of the sort.
(Note to Sharwood: who ever claimed that they did? Quotes, please.)

“I have trawled everything we put out to see if someone from one of our
offices said anything like this, but no, we definitely never put out
statements that it would never rain again,” says Dr Karl.

“The scientists at the BoM (Bureau of Meteorology)and CSIRO made
continuous statements that the drought will end, and that [the dry spell
in the 2000s] wasn’t permanent...”

Here’s all of that in a nutshell.
No one reputable ever said it wouldn’t rain again.
All they said is, it’s getting warmer and we don’t really know what comes next.
Maybe it’s more rain. Maybe it’s less. We’re still working on that.


Sharwood huffs and puffs in indignation about an accusation that was never made -
that scientists claimed “it would never rain again”. This is a red herring.

I suspect Sharwood knows that the real accusation is crucially different:
that some prominent warmists
claimed global warming was indeed bringing less rain,
the drought could be permanent and
our dams could or would run out of water.
What’s more, Braganza is wrong, and some of those alarmists
came from the Bureau of Meteorology.


A sample:


Greens leader Bob Brown in 2006:
<blockquote>From melting polar ice to the spectre of permanent drought in previously productive farmlands, the(World Meteorological Bureau’s) report makes clear
that climate change is not just a future threat, it is damaging Australia now.
</blockquote>Brown in 2008:

Already, (Rudd government adviser Ross Garnaut’s)
daunting data of a 10 per cent chance of no flow at all in the
Murray-Darling river system in future years is being overtaken by data
indicating that drought is the new norm across Australia’s greatest food bowl.


The Sydney Morning Herald in 2008:

This drought may never break

IT MAY be time to stop describing south-eastern Australia as gripped by
drought and instead accept the extreme dry as permanent, one of the
nation’s most senior weather experts warned yesterday.

“Perhaps we should call it our new climate,”
said the Bureau of Meteorology’s head of climate analysis, David Jones....

“There is a debate in the climate community, after … close to 12 years
of drought, whether this is something permanent. Certainly, in terms of
temperature, that seems to be our reality, and that there is no turning back....”


Jones to the University of East Anglia in 2007:

Truthbe know, climate change here is now running so rampant
that we don’t need meteorological data to see it.
Almost everyone of our cities is on the verge of running out of water
and our largest irrigation system (the Murray Darling Basin is on
the verge of collapse...


The Age in 2009:

A three-year collaboration between
the Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO
has confirmed what many scientists long suspected:
that the 13-year drought is not just a natural dry stretch
but a shift related to climate change…

‘’It’s reasonable to say that a lot of the current drought
of the last 12 to 13 years is due to ongoing global warming,’’
said the bureau’s Bertrand Timbal.

‘’In the minds of a lot of people, the rainfall we had
in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s was a benchmark.
A lot of our [water and agriculture] planning was done during that time.
But we are just not going to have that sort of good rain again
as long as the system is warming up.’’...

Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery in 2007:

Flannery predicted cities such as Brisbane would never again have dam-filling rains,
as global warming had caused “a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas” and made
the soil too hot, “so even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and river
systems … “.


Warmist scientist David Karoly, 2003:

The Murray-Darling Basin… covers towns north to Toowoomba,
west to Broken Hill and south to Victoria and South Australia…
Drought severity in the Murray Darling is increasing with global warming…
This is the first drought in Australia where the impact of
human-induced global warming can be clearly observed.


Queensland Conservation Council:


Reduced rainfall due to Global warming will lead to decreased overall water availability… In part, the SEQ water crisis has been caused by climate change


Queensland Premier Peter Beattie, 2007:

Given the current uncertainty about the likely impact of climate change
on rainfall patterns in (South Eastern Queensland) over coming years,
it is only prudent to assume at this stage that lower than usual rainfalls
could eventuate....


Flannery again:


Overthe past 50 years southern Australia has lost
about 20 per cent of its rainfall, and one cause is almost certainly global warming....Desalination plants can provide insurance against drought.
In Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, water supplies are so low
they need desalinated water urgently, possibly in as little as 18 months.


Climate Change Minister Penny Wong, 2008:


We know the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,
said by 2050 that Australia should expect
around about a 25 per cent reduction in rainfall
in the southern part of the Australia…
So there is a very, very sound body of evidence that indicates
that climate change is and will have an impact on rainfall
in the Murray-Darling Basin and in southern Australia.


UPDATE

Remember how 60 Minutes (and the CONspiracy Industry 'Stars'
that still attack me, for warning folk back then, to NOT fall for it),
whipped up the “permanent drought” scare in 2005?


CHARLES WOOLEY: While many farmers believe that drought is
just part of a natural cycle, scientist Dr Tim Flannery sees
much broader and more sinister forces at work.
We live in a new world where global warming and climate change
now have Australia on the edge of permanent drought.

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We are in by far the worst position
of any country that I’ve had a look at in terms of climate change.

CHARLES WOOLEY: The worst of any country?

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: Yes. When you look right across the continent,
what has happened is that the winter rainfall zone that has been the
heart and soul of the bread basket of Australia is declining. The amount
of rainfall through winter is declining. On the east coast of Australia
we have a parallel effect where we are getting these El Ninos back to
back. We’re getting one drought after the other and eastern Australia is
suffering from that. So put together, you have the continent from Perth
through to Brisbane suffering severe water deficits.

CHARLES WOOLEY: If Tim Flannery is right, the new weather regime
has southern Australia drying out permanently.


(Thanks to readers Ray and Mark.)



And that's only this week, lets forget the inconvenient truth of the last couple of years
of floods, that if we had have built dams and managed our annual monsoonal dumps,
that flow and flood from the north to the south in heavy years, we wouldn't have had
any dry years, or such damaging floods from wild, uncontrolled flows.

It's not rocket science, it's simple hydrology that primitive desert cultures have used successfully for thousands of years.

But lets not kid ourselves, those Greenies are NOT idiots,
and they do NOT want to 'save the planet', but DESTROY LIFE,
and have been doing a BLOODY 'good' job of that for generations.
Greens and their crazy cronies are holding a gun to our head
Piers Akerman – Thursday, March 08, 12 (07:09 pm)
THE Australian economy is under attack
from international forces allied
to Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s
minority government partner, the Greens.

Continue reading 'Greens and their crazy cronies are holding a gun to our head'
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Lavrek
tintin wrote: 09-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Smolarek
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1732
nobodyswife wrote: 09-03-2012, 03:29 PM' DISCO INFERNO'
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1732
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true lilly wrote:
Black Saturday fire was arson, jury hears


AAP
THE fatal Churchill Black Saturday
bushfire
was deliberately lit in two places
by Brendan James
Sokaluk,
a prosecutor has told a jury.

165 Nathalia residents evacuate


Michelle Ainsworth
NATHALIA residents are evacuating the town
after the SES warned
more than 400 homes were at risk of flooding
if the levees breached.

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Asian century, Asian century … let’s do the count

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It’s been work-shopped, sent to the focus groups, approved by
McTiernan (who knows nothing about Australia) and the message has gone
out to the Labor politicians.



AT EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY, MENTION ASIAN CENTURY.

In a tedious piece by Chris Bowen (I actually love it when politicians ”write” op-eds –
it saves my time), yes, it is all about the ASIAN CENTURY.


And then we will have the HENRY REPORT – no, not the one about tax,
that is so yesterday – but the one about the ASIAN CENTURY. This is
even though Ken Henry is actually not an expert on Asia – at all – but
an expert on tax. Go figure.



So Cats unite, I want us to form bands of bean counters, no, … Asian century mention counters.

I guess it beats MOVING FORWARD but not by much. Does this mean we are now MOVING BACKWARDS?

Or are we MOVING FORWARD INTO THE ASIAN CENTURY TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURES ON WORKING FAMILIES.

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