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Post  true lilly on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:28 am

And there is MUCH more in current and recent news that goes with all this...

Public release date:
29-Aug-2009


Contact: Debbie Morton
dmorton@mercyhurst.edu
814-824-2552
Mercyhurst College


Underwater expedition delivers key findings
in search for evidence of early Americans


Mercyhurst College archaeologists
trace ancient river systems,
identify chert at
3 submerged sites


In one of the more dramatic moments of an underwater archaeological
survey co-led by Mercyhurst College archaeologist James Adovasio along
Florida's Gulf Coast this summer, Andy Hemmings stood on an inundated river's edge where man hasn't set foot in more than 13,000 years.

Donning full scuba gear, Hemmings stood in 130 feet of water on a
peninsula at the intersection of two ancient rivers nearly 100 miles
offshore from Tampa. The last time humans could have stood in that spot,
mammoth and mastodon roamed the terrain.

"The successful tracking of the St. Marks-Aucilla River and the Suwannee
River, between 50 and 150 kilometers respectively, represents what we
believe to be the most extensive delineation of submerged prehistoric
river systems ever done anywhere in the world," Adovasio said.

Another pivotal find is the identification of chert at three dive sites
along the river systems; chert is a superior quality fine-grained stone
used by prehistoric peoples to make tools.

"There is no doubt,"
Adovasio said, "that we have found the haystacks and are one step closer to uncovering the archaeological needles;" in effect, narrowing the search for evidence of early Americans in the now submerged Inner Continental Shelf in the Gulf of Mexico off the Florida coast.

Hemmings, one of the leading Paleoindian underwater archaeologists in
North America, agreed. "My feeling is, given a little time to probe the
sediments with a dredge, we will quickly find human artifacts."

The signature expedition of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) Office of Ocean Exploration and Research began in
the summer of 2008 when a distinguished group of scientists led by
Mercyhurst's Adovasio and Hemmings identified and mapped buried river
channels that could potentially help document the late Pleistocene
landscape. This year's mission, undertaken July 23 to Aug. 5, further
traced the river systems along whose beaches prehistoric people may have
populated and identified raw materials that they may have used in tool
making.

The mission also has advanced underwater understanding and research methodology exponentially, Adovasio said.

"We have developed protocols for exploring deep water, which is both
time and labor intensive, as well as expensive, unlike anything done
before," he said, noting that the NOAA-funded expedition is unique in
part because of the depths at which scuba divers are exploring. For the
most part, other prehistoric expeditions have been confined to shallow
water, he said.

From the Weatherbird II, flagship of the Florida Institute of
Oceanography in St. Petersburg, researchers electronically mapped the
modern sea floor with a side scan sonar device and created images of the
layered sediments below the seafloor surface with a sub-bottom
profiler. Using GPS technology, the team selected dive locations based
on an understanding of what the surface should look like, and what was
hidden below that surface adjacent to the old river channels.

On the peninsula where the relict Suwannee River intersects another
ancient system, divers were able to collect a 1m sediment core but were
unable to complete a lengthier search for human artifacts because the
water neared 130 feet, the maximum depth level for this year's dive. The
team plans to return to this spot next year, increasing the divers'
depth level certification to 165 feet and using a dredge to lift the
silt away and see if there is an archaeological site at this confluence.

Additional work in 2010 will trace the Suwannee River channel back
toward its modern mouth and continue tracking it into the Gulf. At
select locations, divers will probe the sediments looking for artifacts
made by ancient peoples living along the river at places where the chert
was found this year.

In all, the team has identified 2,000 target locations. With direct
testing by divers having already uncovered three sites with useable tool
stone, Adovasio said the team is confident that it will find human
artifacts from the Pleistocene on this ancient landscape as their work
continues next year.

"Proof of past human habitation here would reinforce the disintegration
of the once prevalent hypothesis about who the first Americans were, how
they got here and when they arrived," said Adovasio, who rose to fame
30 years ago while excavating the Meadowcroft Rockshelter near
Pittsburgh, Pa. Radiocarbon dating at Meadowcroft revealed the presence
of human campsites as many as 16,000 years ago, which went a long way
toward dashing the Clovis-first paradigm, holding that the first humans
arrived in the Americas about 12,000 years ago, as revealed by a site
near Clovis, New Mexico.

###

Besides primary funding from NOAA, this summer's work was supported by
the Mercyhurst Archaeological Institute, the Gault School of
Archaeological Research, the Florida Bureau of Archaeological Research,
the Florida Institute of Oceanography, and the University of Illinois at
Chicago, among others. Students from Mercyhurst, Harvard, the
University of Michigan and Texas A & M were also part of the
research group.


palomino wrote:
Originally Posted by palomino

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225807108312

Aborigines are ill-served by cultural falsification and fraud

AS a nation we want more from just about everybody. We demand better
from our politicians, our corporate executives, our young sportsmen and
women.


Yet we do not expect more from indigenous Australians. Sadly, as a
nation, Australians have a predilection for indigenous confection. We
undermine our national character when we accept cultural fraud. The real indigenous culture is as old as the land, with its wonderful tales of how, at the start of time, this great country was transformed by our ancestral beings.

Then there is an insidious modern culture: a culture of fabrication that preys on unquestioning mainstream Australians.

It thrives because of mainstream Australia's inability to spot a
cultural fraud even when it is staring it in the face. It is often
shrouded in the mystical and unchallenged by the naive for fear of
giving offence. It is handsomely rewarded with grants by unwitting
government officials. This false culture is abetted by a broad willingness to be hoodwinked.

Many Australians are guilty of, to borrow a phrase, the soft bigotry of
low expectations. There are acts of parliament across the country that
divide indigenous communities and favour the noisy rent-seekers and
grant-takers.

In trying to manage cultural matters, bureaucrats often get it wrong.
Competing native title claims, cultural heritage disputes and fighting
among families and factions happen because of weak legislation or decent
legislation that is poorly administered.

In my community I have seen blatant cultural fraud and the fabrication of history
as a money-making strategy. It is allowed to happen because
non-indigenous people don't have the tools to make sound judgments about
competing claims. When it is too hard to get to the truth of the
matter, money is thrown at every version of a story.

In the main, indigenous affairs are administered in a completely
non-commercial manner. Therefore the usual market forces don't apply and
where there is a symptom or a bad news story, someone will be prepared
to throw money at it without having checked out the circumstances.
For a decade from the mid-1990s the Hindmarsh Island bridge controversy
in South Australia proved -- in the courts, parliament and even through a
royal commission -- that not every indigenous story should be taken at
face value. Sooner or later the Hindmarsh affair was inevitable.

Chances are the underlying themes of that affair are being played out
right now in any number of negotiations across the country. The stories
will be modified for the local people and the local circumstances. But
no matter where it is taking place, it will be high drama with practised
performers on both sides. It will be set to a backdrop of legislation
supposed to confer some sort of special protection or special
recognition on indigenous culture. But in the real world (the one
without lawyers), the fight isn't black v white; it is just black. It is
cousin against cousin and the ethical against the grant-takers.

Not even governance is safe. There is a separate corporations act for
indigenous Australia, as if an indigenous constituent's concerns were
somehow less important than those in a corporation watched over by the
Australian Securities and Investment Commission. It strikes me as rather
odd that we have a network of organisations managing billions of
dollars of taxpayer money being marketed as governance. It is hard to
decide if this is welfare by another name or conscience money.

Here I will declare an interest. I work for the Australian Employment
Covenant, striving to get 50,000 jobs for indigenous Australians. But
our team knows the difficulties we face in getting indigenous people
into work when the system allows them to choose welfare. Perhaps they
would take a greater interest in work if the money were turned off. It
has been suggested to me hunger would be a great motivator.

If indigenous people are to enjoy the respect of all Australians, then
we would do well to live by the same obligations and social contract as
the rest of the country.

I do not accept the argument that something in our culture means that we
do not have to work. Nor do I accept that society somehow owes
indigenous people a living.

That line of logic has resulted in too many toxic remote communities and
an urban over-representation of unemployed indigenous people, even when
they within reach of work.

It is time to do away with the separatist double standards.

Wesley Aird is a member of the Australian Employment Covenant Implementation Team
true lilly wrote:Funny to, the TIMING of this year old 'news'
making today's headlines...HACKERS...one of
the reasons I happily 'outed myself'...Not being
at all pc savy and knowing I could not secure
access to my home, let alone computer, and having
nothing of worldly value on my pc, it was best that
who and where I was and what I'm up to always
be openly known by more than a few...this way,
anything illegal 'put on' or 'coming through' my pc
could be proven not to be OF me...as a 'certain someone'
and his hired thugs, tried to do in the past ...

anyway, enough of my reasoning, on to what most
really care about...MONEY...


Russian hackers 'steal millions' from Citibank

* By staff writers
* From: news.com.au
* December 23, 2009 12:12PM

bizmoney citigroup

Citibank denies reports that hackers
stole "tens of millions" of dollars from it
/ Supplied
Source: AFP

* Report that hackers stole millions
* Citigroup denies money was lost
* Most bank heists are now virtual


GLOBAL finance giant Citigroup is denying reports
hackers stole "tens of millions" of dollars
from its banking arm Citibank midway through the year.


The Wall Street Journal yesterday reported the money was lost
to "malicious software created in Russia" and that the case was
being investigated by the FBI.

The Wall Street Journal reported a specialised piece of malware known as
"Black Energy" was behind the losses, having been modified to steal
banking authentication details.

"There's a newer, private version of Black Energy that
uses plugins to extend its capabilities beyond just DDoS (distributed
denial of service), security researcher Joe Stewart told www.pcworld.com.
Related Coverage
* Banks: Rate rise warning for 2010
* FBI probes cyber attack on Citigroup: report
Australian IT, 9 hours ago
* FBI probes US terror suspects in Pakistan The Australian, 11 Dec 2009
* Leighton owner pulls IPO The Australian, 3 Dec 2009
* What GFC? Fat cat bonuses are here again NEWS.com.au, 14 Oct 2009
* Bankers set for record bonus season The Australian, 14 Oct 2009[/b]
http://www.news.com.au/business/russ...-1225813099266

The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI,
the National Security Agency,
the Department of Homeland Security
and Citigroup exchanged information
to counter the attack,
which could have begun as long as a year ago.


The hackers, named in The Guardian as
the "Russian Business Network",
first gained notoriety several years ago
after masterminding a string of hi-tech crimes
including identity theft, fraud, spam
and child pornography.


Citigroup, the world's largest financial services company,
rejected any suggestion the FBI was investigating an incident
and denied that a raid of such proportions had taken place.

"Any allegation that the FBI is working on a case at Citigroup
involving a breach of Citi systems resulting in
tens of millions of dollars of losses is false," it said.

"There has been no breach and there have been no associated losses."

However, Dow Jones & Co spokesman Robert Christie told the
Associated Press that The Wall Street Journal stood by the accuracy of
its story.

A former member of the World Bank's security team said he was not aware of the attack, but said criminal groups based mainly in Europe, Brazil and Southeast Asia "consistently
targeted" large banks and that the industry was "haemorrhaging funds".


"Ninety-eight percent of bank heists
are now occurring virtually and not in the real world,"

he told The Associated Press.

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true lilly wrote:
Sorry guys, I forgot to point out the obvious in this news,
as I was thinking of someone who asked me about why
"They" want GOLD, who would have noticed it was what
I had answered them..."MIGHTY DUCKS"/SUPER MACHINES
that use a lot of GOLD in their circuitry ... they will NOT
be 'aliens' invading, but man made monstrous machine...


Public release date:
23-Dec-2009


Contact: Suzanne Taylor Muzzin
suzanne.taylormuzzin@yale.edu
203-403-8555
Yale University
Scientists create
world's first molecular transistor



IMAGE: Engineers adjusted the voltage applied
via gold contacts to a benzene molecule,
allowing them to raise and lower
the molecule’s energy states
and demonstrate that it could
be used exactly like a traditional transistor
at the molecular level.


Credit: Hyunwook Song and Takhee Lee
Usage Restrictions: With credit given.
This release is available in Chinese.

New Haven, Conn.—
A group of scientists has succeeded in creating
the first transistor made from a single molecule.


The team, which includes researchers from Yale University
and the Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology in South Korea,
published their findings in the December 24 issue
of the journal Nature.

The team, including Mark Reed, the Harold Hodgkinson
Professor of Engineering & Applied Science at Yale,
showed that a benzene molecule attached to gold
contacts could behave just like a silicon transistor.


The researchers were able to manipulate the molecule's
different energy states depending on the voltage they applied to it
through the contacts. By manipulating the energy states,
they were able to control the current passing through the molecule.

"It's like rolling a ball up and over a hill, where the ball represents
electrical current and the height of the hill represents the molecule's
different energy states," Reed said.
"We were able to adjust the height of the hill,
allowing current to get through when it was low,
and stopping the current when it was high."
In this way, the team was able to use the molecule
in much the same way as regular transistors are used.

The work builds on previous research Reed did in the 1990s,
which demonstrated that individual molecules
could be trapped between electrical contacts.
Since then, he and Takhee Lee, a former Yale postdoctoral associate
and now a professor at the Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology,
developed additional techniques over the years
that allowed them to "see" what was happening at the molecular level.


Being able to fabricate the electrical contacts
on such small scales, identifying the ideal molecules to use,
and figuring out where to place them and how to connect them
to the contacts were also key components of the discovery.
"There were a lot of technological advances
and understanding we built up over many years
to make this happen,"
Reed said.

There is a lot of interest in using
molecules in computer circuits
because traditional transistors
are not feasible at such small scales.
But Reed stressed that this is strictly
a scientific breakthrough and that
practical applications such as smaller and faster
"molecular computers"—if possible at all—
are many decades away.

(Ooohhh, he "stressed" it, so it "must be true"...)


"We're not about to create
the next generation of integrated circuits," he said.
"But after many years of work gearing up to this,

we have fulfilled a decade-long quest
and shown that molecules can act as transistors."
###
Other authors of the paper include Hyunwook Song and Yun Hee Jang
(Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology); and Youngsang Kim and
Heejun Jeong (Hanyang University).
Citation: 10.1038/nature08639

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true lilly wrote:Again, NAVAL MILITARY EXERCISES[color=green]...
..."COST MILLION"=INVESTED MILLIONS...
...and these reports are only what they ARE telling us...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1191



Laser fight:
Whaling war goes high-tech
Sea Shepherd Ady Gil

WHALE WARS:
Conservationists shine lasers
at Japanese harpoon vessel.

Source: PerthNow
Sea Shepherd and Japanese whalers
battle in Antartica

* Narelle Towie, Environment Reporter
* From: PerthNow
* December 23, 2009 12:45PM

LASERS and high-tech spy boats are being used
in the fight to save whales from Japanese 'researchers'.

Anti-whaling effects by conservation group Sea Shepherd erupted overnight with Japanese harpoon vessel the Shonan Maru No. 2
deploying water cannons
and noise devices
while activists
fired laser lights and acid booms.

The two groups have been waring in the high-seas of Antartica over the past five days over whaling.

Sea Shepherd activists aboard the Steve Irwin were yesterday allegedly harassed and attacked with water cannons and
Long Range Acoustical Devices -
used to cause nausea and disorientation
- by Japanese crew on the Shonan Maru No. 2.

Related Coverage

* Steve Irwin: Whaling foes in cannon clash
* Japanese security: Acoustic weapon used on Sea Shepherd
* Whaling foes in cannon clash Perth Now, 1 day ago
* Japan fires 'military' weapon at activists Perth Now, 5 days ago
* Japan deploys military against protesters: captain The Australian, 7 days ago
* First shots as whaling war erupts Perth Now, 7 days ago
* War erupts over Antarctic whaling Daily Telegraph, 8 days ago


Sea Shepherd controversially patrols Antarctic waters
aboard the Steve Irwin each year
to hunt down and hamper Japanese whaling fleets.

Conservationists left Fremantle on December 9.

But this year, the Japanese 'researchers' have prevented Sea Shepherd from locating the whaling fleet by tailing them and sending coordinates on the Steve Irwin's whereabouts to their counterparts.

Events heated up overnight when the Ady Gil,
a second Sea Shepherd vessel
which is painted with radar deflective paint,
arrived undetected
.


In the early hours of the morning, the Ady Gil tried to slow down the
Shonan Maru No. 2 allowing the Steve Iwin to make a midnight getaway.


A statement by the Japanese states that Sea Shepherd crew
launched an acid attack on their vessel
while towing a rope from its stern
to tangle the Shonan Maru’s rudder and propeller.

Conservationists have also been accused of
throwing rotting butter, or butyric acid,
while shining green lasers
at the Japanese crew.

The Japanese responded with water cannons and LRAD.


"At first it looked good, and the Steve Irwin was
able to put twelve miles between
the Shonan Maru No. 2 and itself," a statement from Sea Shepherd said.

"But despite being harassed by the Ady Gil for two hours,
the Japanese slowly worked their way back to a six-mile distance. "


"To accomplish this they had to
increase their speed to over twenty knots,
a speed at which, unfortunately,
the Steve Irwin cannot outrun."

During the melee, both the Ady Gil and Shonan Maru No. 2
are reported to have reached speeds over 20 knots in 2m swells.

The Ady Gil
currently carries five crew members including four
New Zealanders and one
Dutch
citizen.

While whaling is illegal, the Japanese use a loop hole in the law
which allows the culling to occur under the auspices of
scientific research. The meat is then sold in Japan.

Last year, the intervention of Sea Shepherd
is said to have cost the Japanese whalers
millions of dollars in lost profit.
~~~~~~~~~~

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa

O.K. I also LONG AGO posted on all the KEY Features
of this 'news', and again STRESS:
THIS IS A COVER FOR ACTUAL MILITARY EXERCISES,
as we all Know 'they' don't give a hoop about saving
anything or one besides themselves, let alone bloody whales.


Japan fires 'military' weapon at activists

Shonan Maru No 2

ANTI-WHALERS complain after
Japanese ship follows and fires
"military class weapon" at them.


Sea Shepherd complain
about Japan's 'military' fightback


* From: AAP
* December 18, 2009 10:51AM


Antarctic Japan Whaling

The Japanese whaling ship Shonan Maru No 2
sprays water behind the anti-whaling group
flagship Steve Irwin as its crew races to take down
blades and secure the helicopter / AP Source: AP

* Sea Shepherd says it was followed illegally
* Uses helicopter to film "illegal" pursuer
* Ship "fired military class weapon" at chopper

THE anti-whale hunting group the Sea Shepherd said a Japanese security
ship has illegally followed them into French Antarctic waters and fired
"a military class weapon" at their helicopter.

The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society said the Japanese ship the Shonan
Maru No 2 had been following its vessel, the Steve Irwin, for nine of
the 10 days it had been sailing since leaving Fremantle.

Sea Shepherd said the Shonan Maru had been constantly reporting the
Steve Irwin's location, preventing it from closing in on the Japanese
whaling fleet.

A Sea Shepherd spokeswoman said the Steve Irwin entered French Antarctic
territorial waters, with permission from the French Base at Dumont
Durville, in a bid to lose the Shonan Maru.

But, the Shonan Maru No 2 followed the Steve Irwin without the French's permission, Sea Shepherd said.

Related Coverage

* First shots as whaling war erupts NEWS.com.au, 2 days ago
* Shoot-out on ice seas Herald Sun, 2 days ago
* Protesters ram whaling ship NEWS.com.au,
* Whale slaughter Daily Telegraph,
* Whaling war win claimed Mercury, 10 Feb 2009

The Sea Shepherd group said the French base had confirmed that the
Japanese ship neither requested nor received permission to enter French
waters.

The spokeswoman said the Steve Irwin helicopter then flew back to film the Shonan Maru in its pursuit.

"In response, the crew of the Japanese ship activated their Long Range Acoustical Device (LRAD) at the Sea Shepherd helicopter," she said.

"LRAD is a military class weapon."

Helicopter pilot Chris Aultman said
activating the weapon was extremely irresponsible.

"That device can cause nausea and disorientation
and the use of it against an aircraft
is extremely dangerous,"
he said.

The Sea Shepherd helicopter returned to the Steve Irwin for safety, at
which point the Shonan Maru increased speed and aimed their water canons
at the helicopter on the landing pad, the spokeswoman said.

Steve Irwin Captain Paul Watson said
the situation was now very dangerous.

"We have deliberately led the Japanese ship
into thick ice in order to lose them in the ice,"
he said.

"The icebergs could easily
damage either vessel."


Sea Shepherd said had reported the incident
to the French authorities adding that so far
the Steve Irwin ship was undamaged
but that the pursuit continued


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...that may explain a little of why "tintin's" thread has dropped
from over 2500 views an hour, to barely 500...and I'm being trolled here now...
Rolling Eyes

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To compound matters the central banks continued buying
has pushed gold prices higher. UBS raised its three month forecast
to $1850 from $1600
due to the ...

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...it was $425.
when The Experts told us that was "TOO MUCH",
and when I first told folk to, "BUY GOLD" Wink Laughing ,
and everyone started 'calling me names' Rolling Eyes Razz
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Post  true lilly on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:04 pm

11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News


Miracle at The Gap

The notorious cliffs can be a place of tragedy.

So how did Nellie Bishop survive
after stepping off the ledge?


It can be a place of tragedy but
The Gap has witnessed miracles, too.

Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive
Very Happy Wink

Author and Herald writer Peter FitzSimons
says this story - originally published in
this month's issue of the(sydney)magazine

- has generated an extraordinary reaction from Sydneysiders.
For those of you who missed it,
we thought we'd run it again.

But first, here's what FitzSimons says:

It is one of those things. Sometimes you write
something that seems to touch a chord with readers, and in 25 years of
writing for the SMH, I don't think I have ever had a greater, nor more
poignant response than this piece.
All of us have been touched by the
subject of suicide in some measure,
and my best hope is that this story
might give hope
to those who contemplate it.
And I am quite serious, by
the way, about there being a need to have a plaque at the Gap, at the
spot Nellie jumped, telling something of her story.


... It is a bright,
beautiful Tuesday afternoon,
November 13, 1923....

Read the whole thing at:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/miracle-at-the-gap-the-day-nellie-tried-to-end-it-and-came-out-alive-20110819-1j1m0.html

But, isn't it interesting, to more than only me,
that this VERY OLD NEWS Report, that's also
an Old Magazine Story, is REPEATED AGAIN as
The First/Main/Lead NEWS/IMAGE Story in
TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD... Wink Cool...

...ALONG with THIS VERY OLD NEWS,
ALSO getting a RE-RUN TODAY on SBS News...
Wink Cool

Oldest fossil found in WA: scientists

22 August 2011 | 03:03:04 AM | Source: AAP

Scientists in Western Australia have uncovered fossils
which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.


A team of researchers from the University of WA
and
Britain's Oxford University say they have proof
that the microscopic fossils, found at Strelley Pool
near Port Headland, are more than 3.4 billion years old.
The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved
between quartz sand grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks,
Oxford University's Professor Martin Brasier said.

"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils)
as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions
that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,"
he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise
cell-like structures all of a similar size, the research team said.

"At last we have good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.
It confirms there were bacteria
at this time, living without oxygen,"

Prof Brasier said.

"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in
smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal
vents -
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."

In recent years new scientific benchmarks have
been introduced
that must be satisfied by researchers
before claims can be made
about the age of fossils.

The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that
the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred
through some mineralisation process, Prof Brasier said.
"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils,
and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.
"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1580480/Oldest-fossil-found-in-WA:-scientists

( Laughing...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING Wink Very Happy...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)


Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003



Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH
.
Very Happy Wink
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Post  MoMo on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:34 pm


true lilly wrote: rolling pin

and that was only a tiny sample of the countless examples
of why the wise, keep, The First Commandment, First and Last

hey suzi/not so tru lilly, I see you've made a new fan/reader. lmao rolf cheers

what you know about YHWHs Commandments you could fit in a thimble and have lots of room left over. Your new fan says it well.

Your dog don't hunt. never did. never will.
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One effect of an Alphabetic based Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather then the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerent of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.
As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this dicombobulated Moses so much he dropped the two stone Tablets Yahweh had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Ihage and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set. Yahweh also taught Moses the Alephbet.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of Yahweh, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Loving your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.
The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codexes of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.
Each one of the four encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The 10 Commandments: The First four concern Recognition/Respect and Service/Worship of Yahweh.

The remaining six are love and respect of fellow humans.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated then other contemporary ANE Cultures.

The commandment to honour BOTH Father and Mother signifies the womens important role and in the Family Unit.

Loving Neighbours is in the General Torah/Instruction: Leviticus 19:18

The last six commandments are not unusual, the first four commandments are unique. Each of the first four encourage Alphabetic literacy by rejecting the right brains way of knowing.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.


In one fell swoop subserviates all other elohim/gods & goddesses.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existant, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subserviant to Him. Psalm 82

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh standeth in the congregation of El; he judgeth among the elohim.

82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, Ye are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses. Full Stop.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Aritmatic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other ANE culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literated peeps tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgements day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden and the Farmland every seven years isto lay fallow to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.



Do you realise how you contradict yourself? The First Commandment is a pillar of the Torah/Instruction (which you insult and falsly declare was 'done away with') of YHWH Elohim, and it declares that the Hebrews were in Egypt/Mizraim, which you deny.

Torah means Instruction. YHWH Elohim has provided aLL humankind with His Instruction, who are you to say otherwise?

A lying, false prophet. thumbs up

You are really a mental case like Billy Rueben has documented.
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Post  true lilly on Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:16 pm

Well, yet another to go on ignore, after reading that
(as I suspected), 'they' still only have 'their' same, old,
proven lies and empty gossip against 'me', to offer as
any counter to
The Truth of The Creator God's Living Word,
that as He also explained, we can see in the facts of this
whole, real world He Created.


But do, by all means, keep repeating what never stood up,
so some may see just how low 'they' need go, simply to try
to keep buried
, The Truth, much bigger than Australia, The
Land Planted and Preserved for the re-gathered of Israel.

The Truth of The God Who Created The Laws of All life.


FROM THE BEGINNING.
WATER COVERED.
ONE LAND MASS.
LIFE WITHOUT OXYGEN.
OXYGEN BRINGS DEATH.
NOAH'S TIME.
STILL ONE LAND MASS.
This Real World's MOST
ANCIENT AGES, All Described In
The Old Testament of God's Word.

...but BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT
in 'your' INSANELY TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" MYTHS, all of 'you' still
DENY SCIENCE,

BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH WHAT
ONLY THE CREATOR COULD HAVE KNOWN,
(even in these last decades, let alone when
the KJV was written), only to keep 'your'
DEADLY RELIGIONS of DEATH WORSHIP,

'alive'...as 'alive' as all the old, crumbled,
kingdoms and new fools who expect those
LONG AGO PROVEN FALSE doctrines, of
LONG AGO DEAD men, to 'save' 'them'.


Not knowing the truth is one thing,
not understanding, is another, but,
to Know, Understand And Freely Choose To Fight,
To FORCE THE WHOLE WORLD TO DENY
,
THE, OBVIOUS, ACTUAL, LIFE SAVING TRUTH,
is unadulterated evil.

And those among us all, who who have
been called out, to watch, warn, correct
and test, sift and sort 'you' from The Living,
KNOW THAT.
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Post  true lilly on Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:50 pm

true lilly wrote:So, how many separate posts
can 'they' SPAM IN THE SAME MINUTE,
WITHOUT BEING DRAGGED THROUGH
the lengthy "Confirmation Code" BS
,
and countless edits to fix hacks as I AM,
and, WHY DO 'they' HAVE TO
SPAM=BURY ONE SIMPLE MESSAGE

that NONE of the world's
CONspiracy gurus DARE TOUCH?


The simple answer...

Well, yet another to go on ignore, after reading that
(as I suspected), 'they' still only have 'their' same, old,
proven lies and empty gossip against 'me', to offer as
any counter to
The Truth of The Creator God's Living Word,
that as He also explained, we can see in the facts of this
whole, real world He Created.


But do, by all means, keep repeating what never stood up,
so some may see just how low 'they' need go, simply to try
to keep buried
, The Truth, much bigger than Australia, The
Land Planted and Preserved for the re-gathered of Israel.

The Truth of The God Who Created The Laws of All life.


FROM THE BEGINNING.
WATER COVERED.
ONE LAND MASS.
LIFE WITHOUT OXYGEN.
OXYGEN BRINGS DEATH.
NOAH'S TIME.
STILL ONE LAND MASS.
This Real World's MOST
ANCIENT AGES, All Described In
The Old Testament of God's Word.

...but BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT
in 'your' INSANELY TOO SHORT,
"out of Egypt" MYTHS, all of 'you' still
DENY SCIENCE,

BECAUSE IT AGREES WITH WHAT
ONLY THE CREATOR COULD HAVE KNOWN,
(even in these last decades, let alone when
the KJV was written), only to keep 'your'
DEADLY RELIGIONS of DEATH WORSHIP,

'alive'...as 'alive' as all the old, crumbled,
kingdoms and new fools who expect those
LONG AGO PROVEN FALSE doctrines, of
LONG AGO DEAD men, to 'save' 'them'.


Not knowing the truth is one thing,
not understanding, is another, but, to Know,
Understand And Freely Choose To Fight,
To FORCE THE WHOLE WORLD TO DENY
,
THE, OBVIOUS, ACTUAL, LIFE SAVING TRUTH,
is unadulterated evil.

And those among us all, who who have
been called out, to watch, warn, correct
and test, sift and sort 'you' from The Living,
KNOW THAT.
true lilly wrote:Again, remember, The Books we call The Bible
cover every topic under the sun, and still, when
I pray about what say, or not to say, well as you
can see, I open Those Pages (randomly) at what
is timely and relevant to the topics I'm covering;
and that's even before bothering to read the full
descriptive meanings of each of those REVEALING
WORDS in That Holy Collection of Books.

So Please, Do, click on the link.


Psalms 49:1-20
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=49&v=1&t=KJV#top
true lilly wrote:Well, I mentioned somewhere, how OFF 'Jason/Billy Ruben's',
"'intelligence' gathered by idiots", IS, after he rang me, again,
to mention this thread of his(=add to his threats to my person,
because he knows he's on ignore and is obsessed with trying to
scare me), but it's been over half a day since he promised to
"BURY=SPAM OVER" my latest posts
, and, well since then,
someone in Melbourne has BLOWN HIS LEGS OFF... another
of 'their' Very Unfortunate 'mates' ...


...and 'certain' 'nice' GAME PLAYING people
still complain AT OTHER people,
about my choice of friends (it's a VERY small selection),
Only to KEEP THEM TRAPPED AMONG Such,
DANGEROUSLY EXPLOSIVE 'mates' Twisted Evil ...
Rolling Eyes

David Icke Australian Tour - Completely Sold Out!!!
by Billy Ruben

ahh, yes, but to WHOM.... Wink
...and, what and whom Suspect Twisted Evil pig
will they be watching for...


true lilly wrote: Twisted Evil pig Suspect
David Icke's 'australian's'=COMPLETE SELL OUTS!
...and too stupidly proud to...

Shocked Crying or Very sad No ...or... pale affraid ...so...

...well, prove 'they' aren't... Razz ...at least 'the name' 'Billy Ruben'
is finally posting here again, but no text to say, "Sorry.", or even,
"O.K. I still disagree with you, but I see you make some valid points,
so I'll stop threatening to kill you.", unlike 'his/her/their' barrage of
texts that do threaten my life, And Worse...so even a moron could
tell, that that is, idiotically, stupidly proud...All Things Considered...
Wink
true lilly wrote:Just another "tintin/cori" 'classic' bit of
CODE KEY FILLED, NEWS of TODAY, that
'they' are also ignoring...and yeah, note:
The Significance of "The HOOD[Y]"


Leonardo DiCaprio arrives
in Australia to shoot
The Great Gatsby



The great Leo arrives in the hood

Tonya Turner

LEONARDO DiCaprio
has touched down in Sydney
to begin filming The Great Gatsby,
making a quick getaway
dressed incognito.
Video


Victoria Police
monitoring gangs in Melbourne
following British riots

Peter Mickelburough
From:Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/victoria-police-monitoring-gangs-in-melbourne-following-british-riots/story-fn7x8me2-1226119207091
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke",
this thread is on the First Page.
So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts,
TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL
(by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and
BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE,
IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post.

So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you",
THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB
and OTHER VIOLENCE
AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS

(the Stolen, Dehydrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT",
"you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home,
recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!
and the other one that wasn't mine, now lives here, happily,
on the 2 1/2 feet he has left),
gives people GOOD REASON TO READ
WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...
posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS,
THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry
IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE,
AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.

Two critically injured
in chemical blast at Cannons Creek

Angus Thompson, Jessica Craven
From:
Herald Sun
August 22, 2011 12:00AM

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/two-critically-injured-in-chemical-blast-at-cannons-creek/story-fn7x8me2-1226119289534
17 comments
RELATED COVERAGE:
Cyprus Naval Base Blast
NEWS.com.au, 12 Jul 2011


Gee, OVER 17 hours old,
and with ALL 'Those'
AUSTRALIAN MODERATORS
and AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS
at DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS...
...STILL, NO ONE (DARE? )
POST THIS NEWS, FULL OF
the BLOODY, GORY stuff that
'they'
USUALLY LOVE TO LAUGH ABOUT...
Twisted Evil
...when it HAPPENS TO 'their' TARGETS


horror, wing, walker,
helicopter, 60m, death,
Todd Green

...gee, only some of,
"cori" and "tintin's" Favourite
CODE/TRIGGER KEYS
,
from only one headline
,
of this, BIG, TODAY'S NEWS,
and where are 'they'...

August 22, 2011

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES
An airshow audience's gasps of awe
turned to gasps of horror
as wing walker Todd Green
lost his grip from a helicopter
and plunged 60m
to his death.

Picture: AP
Read More
Wing walker tragedy
...NOT posting about it,
or any of this, either...

true lilly wrote:NOW, 16 MODERATORS at DAVID ICKE Official Forums:
lookfar, tusme, ozpixie, thirdwave,
measle_weasel, merlincove, ufochick,
mace, drhemp, thommo, scottishryan,
hunter77, weeman, atlantabizgal,
infidelyork, edelweiss pirate


...despite how many have STOPPED POSTING...

...maybe something to do with...

This post was made by Billy Ruben who is currently on your ignore list.

So what do/does 'he/she/they' NOT GET?

Why the need to keep texting me about 'their' latest posts
in 'their' very personal, literal, war against me, as if I
and my opinions, matter more than, The War being fought?

I've often made it perfectly clear that I'm more than happy
to speak WITH any, real, individual person, about what I post,
but even when 'Billy/Jason' does ring and speak AT me, 'he'
can't be bothered remembering, where 'he's' supposed to be,
'who's' supposed to have told 'him' what, or that 'he' can't block
the number or location, from which 'he' makes 'his' worst threats,
from 'those who know and matter'.

And so, being a self proven, as well as self confessed,
NOT so Secret [anymore] Agenda Pushing, 'Agent'
of the BAD 'them'...yep, there is a GOOD 'them'...I can't
keep treating 'him/her/them' as if 'they' are not the very
same, very dangerously deceitful ilk, I first stated posting
warnings for real individuals to take heed of.



Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her 'mates', left, right and centre...

...got another call from him, to inform me of this thread...
...idiots...they couldn't even start to construct a believable tale...
...the price of that 'intelligence' supplied by idiots
Rolling Eyes ...anyway...

Poor 'Billy'...outing his/her
Wink 'mates', left, right and centre...
...and at such a time... ...Team Leader "tintin" will be miffed,
with 'YOU' and...
true lilly wrote:He IS INSANE!
But NOT in a nice, 'stupid, so innocent' way.
He is Heavily, Cunningly, INVESTED IN LAYING THE FOUNDATION
FOR GLOBAL, 'BEAST' WORSHIP.
And EDITS The Official David Icke Forum.
Oh, he has also CLAIMED TO BE JESUS,
and now that HE IS (RE)WRITING GOD'S WORD.
true lilly wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Jesus eh? GOOD! We killit 'im once, we can killim again!
There ARE TWO DEATHS, ONLY the Second IS FOREVER
and You Just SIGNED UP FOR BOTH. ... and I'll restate:
Why 'be gentle' with SCUM that swan around the world
and gather at EXCLUSIVE 5 star dinners to gaffaw at how
easy it is to CON the world? ... That's RHETORICAL ... !
'Funny', though, how
'they' can't take the joke, of
the intended victims laughing at the joy
of one more hour of Blessed Life...
...that is another WARNING, as 'they' are
committed to KILLING THEMSELVES TO KILL
(ALL WHO REFUSE), to BOW TO THE BEAST,
and so, DIE TWICE and FOREVER.


And the idiot is still texting me with more cow manure Rolling Eyes
that further OUTS 'their' FILTHY FILTH as FILTH...Laughing...TO,
those 'cleaning them up'...
Razz ...yes 'Jason/Billy/and The Mob',
I do THINK, and
I do think 'you' have, "given a shit",
right down the legs 'you' still have,
unlike

other's who 'bought' 'your' SATANIC RELIGIONS
Twisted Evil ,
who may not be that happy with what 'you MOB' PREACH,
anymore...
Evil or Very Mad


I don't know how far 'Billy Ruben' outed those
he was slaving to defend, but I do hope that
at least some, if not all of them, will finally see,
clearly enough, to stop cursing their blessings,
repent, and live...their own lives, and, stop trying
to prevent me from living mine...what, you say, 'if
I really cared, I'd have made the pill sweeter!'...but,
I did, for decades, I made it ever so sweet, smooth,
small and easy to swallow, when I should have realized
that they were so poisoned with bitterness, what they
really needed, way back then, was a bloody big enema!


Scientists claim
bacteria fossils discovered
in Port Hedland are more than
3.4 billion years old

From:AAP
August 22, 2011 9:00AM


A 3D image of the 3.4 billion-year-old microfossil found in Western Australia. Picture: AFP / David Wacey and Derek Gertsmann.



Strelley Pool in Pilbara region of Western Australia
where the fossils were found. Picture: AFP / David Wacey


SCIENTISTS in Western Australia have uncovered fossils which they say are the oldest evidence of life on earth.

A team of researchers from the University of WA and Britain's
Oxford University say they have proof that the microscopic fossils,
found at Strelley Pool near Port Hedland, are more than 3.4 billion
years old.


The sulphur-based bacteria was found well preserved between quartz sand
grains in prehistoric sedimentary rocks, Oxford University's Professor
Martin Brasier said.


"We can be very sure about the age (of the fossils) as the rocks
were formed between two volcanic successions that narrow
the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years," he said in a statement.

The fossils are very clearly preserved, showing precise cell-like structures
all of a similar size, the research team said.


"At last we have
good solid evidence
for life over 3.4 billion years ago.

It confirms there were bacteria
at this time,
living without oxygen,"
Prof Brasier said.


"Such bacteria are still common today.
Sulphur bacteria are found in smelly ditches,
soil, hot springs, hydrothermal vents —
anywhere where there's little free oxygen
and they can live off organic matter."


In recent years new scientific benchmarks have been introduced
that must be satisfied by researchers before claims can be made
about the age of fossils.


The West Australian fossils pass crucial tests including that the forms seen in
the rocks are biological and have not occurred through some mineralisation process,
Prof Brasier said.

"We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils, and we're very optimistic for future finds," he said.

"The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets,
giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like."
( Laughing...'they' say...but MEAN:
IT'S SOLID EVIDENCE WE CAN TRUST
WHAT GOD TOLD US,
ABOUT "THE BEGINNING",
FROM THE BEGINNING Wink Very Happy...
and, HOW IT WILL ALL PAN OUT!)


Oldest vertebrate fossil found in Australia,
scientists say
Thursday, 23 October 2003



Our oldest ancestor?
560 million year old 'tadpole'
found in South Australia
(South Australian Museum)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_973390.htm

Oh and there is so much more of this sort of news,
that sings the truth of God's Word, scattered, planted,
buried, all over the place, for those who do care to,
SEARCH WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART, MIND and STRENGTH
.
Very Happy Wink



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true lilly wrote:So cori=wants 99.9% of humans dead,
which of my enemies in the real world, are you supporting?

Those who say 'they' "channel jeesuss",
or those who come straight out and admit
that 'the lord's prayer' they 'raised' their kids by,
was 'the lord's prayer'
straight out of The Satanic Bible.


And now it seems 'Jason'
has lost the ability to read at all,
as well as comprehend.

Maybe I'll just have to forward all his texts
to all 'those' 'respected' people
he is so overtly, so publicly,
demonstrating his supported association with,
in 'their' mutual pushing of the same
(not so secret anymore), satanic agenda,
and let 'them' sort 'their' own yapping dog.


And so what if some among them,
are, actually worthy of respect,
or just haven't had their cover blown yet;
surely they are entitled
to know the public and private character of
those who Publicly claim to privately
Share a Satanic Association with
those who claim to be
'Christian' Business People.
11:46AM Monday Aug 22, 2011

Today's News


Miracle at The Gap
Miracle at The Gap:
the day Nellie tried to end it
and came out alive
Very Happy Wink

...and that was only a tiny sample
of the countless examples of why the wise,
keep, The First Commandment, First and Last.

That's
The First Commandment of
The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about

All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE

OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH
...
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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  MoMo on Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:33 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
That's
The First Commandment of
The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about

All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE

OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH
...

well,stop fucking breathing and see how you go ya old bint,since you breathe oxygen and spread lies,slander and filth,I suppose you should classify yourself as Arch Evil.I do.Seek mental counselling or therapy you mad little thing


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cthulhu cthulhu

Sad but true Billyboy. thumbs up

Suzi aka 'tru lilly' doesn't seem to comprehend the Bible is NOT a History Book, it is a Book of Instruction-Torah. Which she abuses.

Read any book on Evolutionary Biology and the Atmosphere we breathe preceded mankind. The Genesis Enigma by Andrew Parker.


Did you notice how she has completely contradicted herself by citing the First commandment, which she doesn't follow?

1: It establishes abstract Ethical Monotheism-YHWH Elohim as the only living God, it is the Foundation of His Torah/Instruction, which Suzi doesn't co9mprehend and disregards making up her own nonsense.

2: The commandment declares YHWH liberated the Hebrews FROM Egypt/Mizraim.

Talk about cognitive dissonance, I can hear hers in the USA! thumbs up lmao rolf popcorn cheers

Anyway, she should obey the Commandment NOT to Bear false Witness, she would enjoy greater peace.

Hypocrites are always beset by anxieties and blame others for their own foibles. thumbs up

Anyhoo, here is some wisdom she should heed, The Evil Tongue-The Lashon Hara.

Good investigative Journalism exposing Suzi billyboy. thumbs up cheers




The evil Tongue........


Words Are Powerful
http://www.aish.com/f/p/48936067.html

Speech -- the ability to convey ideas and feelings through words -- is unique to human beings. It can be a tremendous blessing, but it's also ripe for abuse.

The words our children choose to use in expressing themselves help create their personal window on the world.

Positive forms of expression can help our children grow into positive, optimistic people who view the world around them with generous and hopeful eyes. Negative forms of expression, such as defamatory, mean-spirited speech, will cultivate in them a negative, cynical view of the world.

Speech That Is Evil
It's easy to fall prey to a destructive pattern of speaking badly about others and gossiping -- to the point where it becomes a recreational activity! In order to enjoy the many people in our lives, we have to stop verbalizing the negativity and focus on their positive virtues. This takes a lot of effort but is essential in raising happy children.

If we're always finding fault, we will naturally be dissatisfied, disappointed and displeased, and so will be our children.

Raising happy children requires us to impart to our offspring the ability to look at everything positively --situations, places and material objects. Most important of all is how they view people.

Torah calls "evil language" anything negative, even if it's true.The Hebrew term for speaking badly of others is called lashon hara, literally "evil language." Interestingly, the Torah calls "evil language" anything negative, even if it's true. (Slander -- malicious, false information is called motzi shem ra, literally "giving another a bad name.")

In sharp contrast to the Western adage about sticks and stones not hurting, Judaism looks very gravely upon misuse of speech. Our tradition teaches that lashon hara can destroy many lives, even unintentionally, in one fell swoop:

•the person speaking,
•the person spoken about,
•and the person spoken to.
Let's look at why.

•The person speaking: Although you briefly become the center of attention when you dish out a juicy piece of gossip, in the long run people start mistrusting you. "Gee, I wonder what she says about me when I'm not around." People don't trust gossips and will avoid confiding in you. In the end, you're killing your own reputation. Furthermore, because you are misusing the gift of speech that God gave you, you are also lessened in His eyes.
•The person spoken about: The person under discussion is, of course, being killed in everyone's eyes. Whether the information is true or false, it is hard to take back defamatory words already spoken and undo the character assassination already committed. That person's reputation is forever blemished.
•The person spoken to: Interestingly enough, this is the person who is the most culpable, even though s/he is seemingly the innocent one. All s/he did was listen! But the Talmud says that listening to lashon hara is even worse than speaking it; the person had the power to stop it and didn't. Now the transgression is complete.
Exceptions to the Rule

Of course, there are times we are all owed to speak share negative information about others; in fact, there are times it is an obligation to do so. For example - when a friend is about to be become financially involved with a person we know to be unethical, or seriously dating a person we know to be abusive or otherwise unsuitable. Or when a child has information that will prevent harm from occurring.

Common Fallacies

Beware of the excuses children and adults often use for speaking lashon hara:

•"But it's true!" Lashon hara specifically refers to sharing derogatory information when it is true. Spreading vicious lies is far worse!
•"If she were here I would say it to her face." Maybe you would, and maybe you wouldn't. In any case, it is still forbidden.
•"Everyone knows about it." Does this justify you adding fuel to the fire? Even if it is on the front page of the newspaper, you are still forbidden to speak about it.
Parenting Tools

Teaching our children to avoid speaking lashon hara takes a concerted effort. Experiment with the following tools:

1.Teach by example. Showing children that it's a priority for you is perhaps the most important lesson. Don't let them hear your gossiping with your friends or relatives. Don't let them hear you laughing at other people's expense. Even better than "don't let them hear you" is not doing it -- whether they're in earshot or not.
2.Discuss the importance of avoiding lashon hara. Help your children identify what is and isn't proper speech. Talk about how improper speech can hurt others and how it hurts the person speaking lashon hara. There are a number of excellent Jewish books that can help you.
3.Discourage "tattling." When your kids come to "tell on" someone, tell them you aren't interested in reports of someone else's bad behavior, but that you're available if they need help or advice.
4.Get in the habit of not using names. There's no need for you to know the names of problem students at school unless you'll have a direct role in addressing the issue. Focus the discussion on your child's feelings, worries and concerns. If he or she needs protection that requires your intervention, tell him or her that it is proper to tell you the name of the offending child.
5.Don't fall into the trap of casual lashon hara. At dinner and at other family times, bring books to the table to discuss or talk about current events. When you discuss what happened in each person's day, focus on what they learned that day and how they felt. Show your children that there are more interesting things to talk about than other people's poor behavior.
6.Give positive reinforcement. Be sure to commend your kids when they manage to tell you about school or neighborhood problems without mentioning who was involved. Let them know that you're proud of them - and that God is too.
7.Reminders! Tape a reminder to the telephone: "No Lashon Hara!" Put up signs on the fridge and in other prominent locations around the house.
8.Study it. Read a small section of the laws of lashon hara each day during dinner or at your Shabbat table. Encourage discussion and examples


Pay attention Suzi!!! thumbs up

http://www.lashonhara.org/

What Counts As Lashon Hara?Posted on July 23, 2010 by admin Rabbi Finkelman, in his Purity of Speech adaptation of the Chofetz Chaim’s Sefer Shmirat Halashon, teaches that the immediate physical punishment for speaking lashon hara can be seen as having benefitted the Jews back when this punishment was in effect. Jews who spoke lashon hara were punished with Tzaraat – leprosy. How could being struck with leprosy possibly be a good thing?

Rabbi Finkelman explains that when leprosy was the consequence of speaking lashon hara, Jews were conscious of when they’d misspoken. They knew what counted as lashon hara. Today, you often hear people defend their gossiping by saying that it isn’t lashon hara. People know they should speak kindly about their fellows, but it’s difficult. To avoid feeling bad, they justify their unkind words as something that doesn’t qualify as lashon hara.

In the Bible, Miriam is struck with leprosy for speaking ill of her brother Moses. In the following Parasha, the spies are sent to scout out the land. One well-known way of interpreting the Torah is by considering juxtapositions, things placed alongside each other.

Rashi explains why these two stories, seemingly unrelated, are stuck together. The spies – who were leaders of the 12 tribes of the Children of Israel – should have learned from Miriam’s punishment. They should have seen how dangerous speaking lashon hara is.

Unfortunately, they didn’t learn the lesson. And as a result of their negative report, G’ decided that that generation would not enter the land of Israel, but die in the desert. Thus began 40 years of wandering in the desert. And during that time, the whole generation died. (They’d asked Moses to send spies into Israel.)

When in doubt as to what counts as lashon hara, it’s better to keep quiet. Lashon hara carries serious consequences, even if they’re not as immediately obvious today, as they once were.

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How To Constructively Criticize And ChidePosted on May 11, 2010 by admin (This continues the second story discussed in How To React To Lashon Hara. Lashon Hara is Hebrew for speaking negatively – albeit truthfully – about others.) In the same group studying Mishnah, there happened to be a younger student. He didn’t understand the full meaning of the siilence and so felt guilty regarding the unkind words (lashon hara).

Why feel guilty?

Because lashon hara destroys 3: The speaker, the hearer and the target. After Havdalah, the youth approached the Rabbi who’d only discussed the Mishnah without deviating into lashon hara, and asked to speak privately.

Once they were behind closed doors, the student said, “The course was great, so I’d like to thank you and the others for teaching us so well.” “Thankyou,” answered the Rabbi.

“There was just one little thing that bothered me, though – the other Rabbi’s comments on those he disagrees with politically,” continued the student. “I’m not sure whether it was or wasn’t lashon hara, but it certainly put me in an awkward situation. I didn’t think it would be well-received if I chided the other Rabbi, being younger and less learned than him. Perhaps you might speak to him?” he asked.

“The whole group felt that way,” responded the Rav. “That’s why there was the silence [due to the discomfort and disapproval.]”

The story has several important takeaways on offering criticism.

How To Provide Constructive Criticism And Chiding

1) Avoid embarassment and ensure effectiveness by seeking a private discussion. No one likes to hear that they’re wrong and especially not in front of others, which would cause them to lose face.

To avoid putting others on the defensive and to pre-empt a fruitless confrontation, seek a private forum after others have left. This is why the student waited until after Havdala, and went to a private room to avoid being overheard.

2) Praise before criticizing. In theory, a person may sense that praise is being given to soften upcoming criticism, and they may doubt the sincerity of the praise. But in practice, any such considerations fall by the wayside for two reasons.

First, emotionally, we all appreciate compliments and this tends to suffice to trump rational skepticism. Second, since we tend to view ourselves and our actions positively, we believe praise we receive on the grounds that it is true, even if the motive for giving it is to ease a path for constructive criticism. I’ve certainly never heard someone respond, when told they were generous and kind, “I’m a cheap jerk! What are you talking about?!”

Of course, it’s best to give praise one genuinely believes, for optimal results. This is especially true if it can be supported based on an event we’ve seen.

Often, however, even compliments that we cannot justify from our own experience with the person may suffice. The Haggadah says, “All of us are intelligent, all of us are righteous, all of us know the Torah.” (“Koulanu chachamim, koulanu tzadikkim, koulanou yod’im et haTorah.”) So praising a person’s intelligence, good deeds and/or knowledge of Torah are generally applicable type compliments that we can use in the absence of something more contextually appropriate.

3) Let the right person for the situation offer the constructive criticism. Age, perceived expertise, pre-existing friendship and other factors affect who is the “right” critic.

Ultimately, it is someone who the target of the constructive criticism will heed and not feel ashamed to receive criticism from.

Again, protecting dignity is key. Often, a close friend or family member is best, or at least a trusted peer, because they are known to mean well [in the target's mind],

How Abraham Would Give Constructive Criticism

In the story of Soddom, Abraham questions G’ as to whether He will really destory the city despite the possibility that some righteous people may reside there. Onkelos’ translation/interpretation adds the words, “Too True Are Your Judgments,” to Abraham’s chiding of G’. It’s unclear what the source of Onkelos’ addition is, but either way, the story sets an excellent example.

First, Abraham begins with praise.

Second, the text explicitly says that Abraham waited until the other members of his group had already travelled onwards. He was addressing G’ privately.

And we know that Abraham smashed his father’s idols and brought people to monotheism. The former demonstrates a love and respect for both G’ (similar to seeking the wellbeing of the object of the constructive criticism) and the latter point shows love for his fellow men (e.g. expertise in the subject of monotheism and appreciation of G’). So Abraham was the right person to plead Soddom’s case.

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How To React To Lashon HaraPosted on May 11, 2010 by admin A Story of Reacting to Lashon Hara at Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva

Rav Nir ? of Machon Meir Yeshiva once shared with us a story of Rav Aviner’s experience at Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva.

On Rav Aviner’s first day there, he happened to sit near the advanced students (avrechim). As they were discussing, one of the avrechim suddenly leapt backwards as if he were about to be stung by a scorpion! “Lashon Hara!” he shouted, interrupting another of the avrechim in mid sentence, in anticipation of the point about to be made. The avrech who’d been speaking didn’t finish the sentence.

(The avrech who leapt backwards was Rav Dov Bigon, Chief Rabbi of Machon Meir (Rosh Yeshiva). )

Obviously, this was an extraordinary reaction of a unique individual (in the positive sense) in the company of a particular, learned group. Our reaction in a similar situation must be appropriate to the circumstances. The following anecdote further illustrates the idea.

It happened once upon a time that a group of men were studying the Mishna during the third Shabbat meal (seuda shlishit). One Rav, in commenting and explaining a passage, went off on a tangent. The Rav who spoke after him expounded further, then went on to speak harshly of those whose political views were opposed to his own. (It was somewhat related to the discussion.)

The others in the group met the political aside with an uncomfortable silence, whereupon the Rav who’d made the comment and the first Rav returned to the topic of the Mishna. The meaning of the silence – i.e. disapproval – was clear to the Rav who spoke lashon hara, which explains why he immediately dropped the topic.

Two More Ways To React To Lashon Hara

In addition to the possible reaction presented in the first story, another two ways of reacting to lashon hara are presented by this parable. One reaction is silence. The other reaction is to change the topic.

1) Silence. In the context of lashon hara, silence indicates a few things. First, it is the opposite action to joining in with the lashon hara and piling on the unfortunate target. Second, silence – to those attuned to non-verbal communication – expresses disapproval and/or disagreement without saying so explicitly. Thus, there is an instant reaction - which prevents sinking further into the muckraking – without risking embarasshing the person who spoke ill of his fellow.

Note: This is dependent on the speaker being attuned to non-verbal communication and not just being oblivious, thinking perhaps that the silence is just rapt attention.

2) Changing the topic. This is another time-honoured tactic for avoiding uncomfortable discussiong and cutting them short once begun. In the above anecdote, the speaker himself changed the topic along with the other Rav.

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How To Avoid Lashon HaraPosted on May 5, 2010 by admin Avoiding Lashon Hara, aka Gossip About Others’ Bad Behaviour

Lashon Hara is based in a feeling of superiority

To be able to speak unkindly about another person, you have to consider yourself superior to that person. Specifically, you need to consider yourself superior in that field in which you’re attacking the other person. If you were at the same level, it would be pretty foolish to attack others – the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.

Yet, even if it’s true that we do such or such a mitzva that someone else doesn’t do, or otherwise do really behave in a way that is superior to another person’s behaviour, that mitzva must be put in its proper context.

The context of our comparison

What is it that helps us realize that the implicit comparison between our behaviour and theirs is wrong? It’s the role of G’ in our daily lives.

Rabbi Haim Moshe Luzzato’s book Mesilat Yesharim, the Path of the Just/Righteous, develops this point. The Path of the Just teaches us that the more mitzvot we accomplish, the more humble we must be.

That’s a pretty counter-intuitive statement! Normally, the better we behave, the more we can feel proud in our accomplishments, even if we recognize this should remain internal (to avoid being boastful). The explanation for this paradox is the role of G’ in our daily lives.

Mesilat Yesharim explains this by analogy us to a poor person who receives a gift. The greater the gift, the greater the poor person’s embarassment relative to his mediocre financial status. In our largely middle class society, we might understand this better by thinking of the last time we tried to give a gift to the “friend who has everything.” The difficulty finding him a gift is because he already has everything. Inversely, the poor person has very little.

Likewise, we all start as babies with no knowledge of the Torah, mitzvot etc. It’s only by divine generosity that we have the opportunity to accomplish mitzvot. It’s the old question of nature / nurture. While our own efforts are not to be belittled, G’ is responsible for giving us the chance to accomplish the mitzvot. We can’t ignore “nature” [read: G'].

For example, a Bar Mitzvah boy who puts on tefillin thanks his parents for buying them for him. Sure he’s putting them on, but he was lucky to have parents who put him in that situation. And while they worked to afford those tefillin, obviously G’ had a role to play in making their efforts at earning a living successful.

It’s not for nothing that we refer to G’ as Avinu Shebashamayim, Our Father In Heaven.

This teaches us 2 lessons.

1. The greater one’s achievements in the Torah, the less merit one must have had to start with! What is amazing about the marathon runner who crosses the finish line isn’t that he’s now completed the race (his current state), but that he came from 42 km distance away! Therefore, it’s better to avoid speaking Lashon Hara about others, lest others bring up our the distant point from which we began our own marathon.

2. Our good deeds are only partially attributable to us. While it’s true that we chose to make an effort and do them, G’ put us in a fertile environment and gave us the opportunity to accomplish those mitzvot.

This leads to another piece of advice given by Rav Luzzato in mesilat Yesharim. In our moments of pride, we should recall all the times where we’ve made stumbled along the way. Even King David, of whom some comment that he never erred, said of himself “And I am but a worm and ashes.” (The anecdote with Bat-Sheva and Uri the Hittite is in dispute as to whether it constitutes a mistake on the part of David.)

In sum:

a) Lashon hara is based on feelign superior relative to others.

b) That feeling is vain because

(i) whoever has improved themselves was imperfect to begin with and

(ii) their improvement is largely attributable to G’.

Just as we don’t boast about our hair colour, which we didn’t choose, we shouldn’t speak badly about others whose conditions have been different and thus lacked the opportunity to improve themselves.

Lashon Hara As Blasphemy – Desecrating G’s Name

Other people’s circumstances are largely influenced by G’, just like our own circumstances. If we speak badly about someone else who doesn’t accomplish X or Y mitzva, what we’re saying indirectly is that G’ is unjust. Why? Because He didn’t give them as favourable circumstances as our own.

The problem with that is that we can’t understand G’ to a sufficient degree in order to be able to judge him. We can have recognition towards him – hakarat hatov – which is the basis for loving – ahavat – G’ .

But when He acts in a way that appears difficult to us to understand – e.g. our difficulties understanding the Shoah (Holocaust) – we’re better off reserving our judgement to avoid desecrating G’s Name (chilloul H’), even if it’s only an unintentional desecration.

(The book Sichot HaRav Tzvi Yehuda sheds some light on the question of the Holocaust. It’s translated into English as Torat Eretz Israel by Rabbi David Samson.)

Finally, I’d like to return to that idea of humility based on a retrospective view of the long way we’ve come. As we continue to make progress, we realize that there’s still a long road ahead of us. Thankfully, “the Eternal Nation isn’t intimidated by the long road.” (Am Hanetzach Lo Mephached MeDerech Arucka.)


Speech and Lashon Ha-Ra

http://www.jewfaq.org/speech.htm

Level: Intermediate
• Gossip and slander are serious sins in Judaism

• Judaism forbids causing any deception or embarrassment through speech
• It is forbidden even if the statement is true
• There are some exceptions that allow tale-bearing


When non-observant people talk about how difficult it is to observe Jewish law, they usually mention the difficulty of observing Shabbat or keeping kosher or other similarly detailed rituals. Yet the laws that are most difficult to keep, that are most commonly violated even by observant Jews, are the laws regarding improper speech. This is a very important area of Jewish law; entire books have been written on the subject.

The Power of Speech
Judaism is intensely aware of the power of speech and of the harm that can be done through speech. The rabbis note that the universe itself was created through speech. Of the 43 sins enumerated in the Al Cheit confession recited on Yom Kippur, 11 are sins committed through speech. The Talmud tells that the tongue is an instrument so dangerous that it must be kept hidden from view, behind two protective walls (the mouth and teeth) to prevent its misuse.

The harm done by speech is even worse than the harm done by stealing or by cheating someone financially: money lost can be repaid, but the harm done by speech can never be repaired. For this reason, some sources indicate that there is no forgiveness for lashon ha-ra (disparaging speech). This is probably hyperbole, but it illustrates the seriousness of improper speech. A Chasidic tale vividly illustrates the danger of improper speech: A man went about the community telling malicious lies about the rabbi. Later, he realized the wrong he had done, and began to feel remorse. He went to the rabbi and begged his forgiveness, saying he would do anything he could to make amends. The rabbi told the man, "Take a feather pillow, cut it open, and scatter the feathers to the winds." The man thought this was a strange request, but it was a simple enough task, and he did it gladly. When he returned to tell the rabbi that he had done it, the rabbi said, "Now, go and gather the feathers. Because you can no more make amends for the damage your words have done than you can recollect the feathers."

Speech has been compared to an arrow: once the words are released, like an arrow, they cannot be recalled, the harm they do cannot be stopped, and the harm they do cannot always be predicted, for words like arrows often go astray.

Tale-Bearing
There are two mitzvot in the Torah that specifically address improper speech: Thou shalt not go up and down as a tale-bearer among thy people (Lev. 19:16), and ye shall not wrong one another (Lev. 25:17, which according to tradition refers to wronging a person with speech).

Tale-bearing is, essentially, any gossip. The Hebrew word for tale-bearer is "rakhil" (Reish-Kaf-Yod-Lamed), which is related to a word meaning trader or merchant. The idea is that a tale-bearer is like a merchant, but he deals in information instead of goods. In our modern "Information Age," the idea of information as a product has become more clear than ever before, yet it is present even here in the Torah.

It is a violation of this mitzvah to say anything about another person, even it is true, even if it is not negative, even if it is not secret, even if it hurts no one, even if the person himself would tell the same thing if asked! It is said that the telling of gossip leads to bloodshed, which is why the next words in the Torah are "you shall not stand aside while your fellow's blood is shed." The story of Do'eig the Edomite (I Samuel Chs. 21-22) is often used to illustrate the harm that can be done by tale-bearing. Do'eig saw Achimelekh the Kohein give David bread and a sword, a completely innocent act intended to aid a leading member of Saul's court. Do'eig reported this to Saul. Do'eig's story was completely true, not negative, not secret, and Achimelekh would have told Saul exactly the same thing if asked (in fact, he did so later). Yet Saul misinterpreted this tale as proof that Achimelekh was supporting David in a rebellion, and proceeded to slaughter all but one of the kohanim at Nob.

The person who listens to gossip is even worse than the person who tells it, because no harm could be done by gossip if no one listened to it. It has been said that lashon ha-ra (disparaging speech) kills three: the person who speaks it, the person who hears it, and the person about whom it is told. (Talmud Arachin 15b).

In Jewish law, all things are considered to be secret unless a person specifically says otherwise. For this reason, you will note that in the Torah, G-d constantly says to Moses, "Speak to the Children of Israel, saying:" or "Speak to the Children of Israel and tell them:" If G-d did not specifically say this to Moses, Moses would be forbidden to repeat his words! Nor is there any time-limit on secrets. The Talmud tells the story of a student who revealed a secret that he had heard 22 years earlier, and he was immediately banished from the house of study! (Talmud Sanhedrin 31a)

The gravest of these sins of tale-bearing is lashon ha-ra (literally, "the evil tongue"), which involves discrediting a person or saying negative things about a person, even if those negative things are true. Indeed, true statements are even more damaging than false ones, because you can't defend yourself by disproving the negative statement if it's true! Some sources indicate that lashon ha-ra is equal in seriousness to murder, idol worship, and incest/adultery (the only three sins that you may not violate even to save a life).

It is forbidden to even imply or suggest negative things about a person. It is forbidden to say negative things about a person, even in jest. It is likewise considered a "shade of lashon ha-ra" to say positive things about a person in the presence of his enemies, because this will encourage his enemies to say negative things to contradict you!

One who tells disparaging things that are false is referred to as a motzi sheim ra, that is, one who spreads a bad report. This is considered the lowest of the low.

It is generally not a sin to repeat things that have been told "in the presence of three persons." The idea is that if it is told in the presence of three persons, it is already public knowledge, and no harm can come of retelling it. However, even in this case, you should not repeat it if you know you will be spreading the gossip further.

When Tale-Bearing is Allowed
There are a few exceptional circumstances when tale-bearing is allowed, or even required. Most notably, tale-bearing is required in a Jewish court of law, because it is a mitzvah to give testimony and that mitzvah overrides the general prohibition against tale-bearing. Thus, a person is required to reveal information, even if it is something that was explicitly told in confidence, even if it will harm a person, in a Jewish court of law.

A person is also required to reveal information to protect a person from immediate, serious harm. For example, if a person hears that others are plotting to kill someone, he is required to reveal this information. That is another reason why the commandment not to go about as a tale-bearer is juxtaposed with "you shall not stand aside while your fellow's blood is shed."

In limited circumstances, one is also permitted to reveal information if someone is entering into a relationship that he would not enter if he knew certain information. For example, it may be permissible to tell a person that his prospective business partner is untrustworthy, or that a prospective spouse has a disease. This exception is subject to significant and complex limitations; however, if those limitations are satisfied, the person with the information is required to reveal it.

In all of these exceptions, a person is not permitted to reveal information if the same objective could be fulfilled without revealing information. For example, if you could talk a person out of marrying for reasons other than the disease, you may not reveal the disease.

Wronging a Person through Speech
Leviticus 25:17 says, "You shall not wrong one another." This has traditionally been interpreted as wronging a person with speech. It includes any statement that will embarrass, insult or deceive a person, or cause a person emotional pain or distress.

Here are some commonly-used examples of behavior that is forbidden by this mitzvah:

•You may not call a person by a derogatory nickname, or by any other embarrassing name, even if he is used to it.
•You may not ask an uneducated person for an opinion on a scholarly matter (that would draw attention to his lack of knowledge or education).
•You may not ask a merchant how much he would sell something for if you have no intention of buying.
•You may not refer someone to another person for assistance when you know the other person cannot help (in other words, it's a violation of Jewish law to give someone the run-around!).
•You may not deceive a person, even if no harm is done by the deception; for example, you may not sell non-kosher meat to a non-Jew telling him that it is kosher, even though no harm is done to the non-Jew by this deception.
•You may not sell a person damaged goods without identifying the damage, even if the price you give is fair for the goods in their damaged condition.
•You may not offer a person a gift or invite a person to dinner if you know that the person will not accept.
•You may not compliment a person if you do not mean it.
Links for Further Reading
Torah.org offers an online course on the Ethics of Speech, studying the laws of proper speech as defined in the Sefer Chafetz Chayim


As for her citing the First Commandment, read it, it is the Foundation of YHWHs Torah-Instruction, which Suzi ignorantly tells her few readers is 'Done Away with' and they should believe her lies and deceptions.

The Purpose of the Commandments
http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/346666/jewish/The-Purpose-of-the-Commandments.htm

By Tali Loewenthal

The Ten Commandments are in many ways the highlight of the entire Torah. But the Midrash1 makes a surprising statement: it says that the first word of the Ten Commandments is in the Egyptian language. What does this mean?

The Ten Commandments are the summary of the entire Torah. They were heard from G-d by the entire Jewish people. The first Command, "I am G-d, your G-d, who took you out of the Land of Egypt" is the basic statement of our special relationship with the Infinite. The first word, Anokhi, means, "I am." G-d is speaking of Himself, and communicating with us.

The Midrash is intriguing. It says this first word Anokhi is Egyptian, because G-d wanted to speak with us in the language we had learnt while we were in Egypt. This tells us something about the nature of Torah and of being a Jew. G-d does not want to relate to us only on the sacred, spiritual level of our lives, represented by Hebrew, the holy language. He wants to reach the earthly "Egyptian" dimension as well.


We should not try to pretend that we do not have this lower aspect. Rather, we should try to control it, then elevate it and ultimately transform it into something holy.

G-d helps us in this task: there are Jewish teachings about every aspect of life, including the most basic. The mitzvot (commandments) connect us to G-d on every level of our being. For this reason Anokhi, the first word of the Ten Commandments, is in Egyptian: it reaches down to the "Egyptian" person inside us and transforms him or her into a Jew. 2

Meeting Point

The Sages tell us that every Jewish soul ever to be born was present at the giving of the Torah. This includes every single person who would ever become a true proselyte to Judaism. It was a moment of meeting of the entire Jewish people together, and a meeting of the Jewish people with G-d.

The recognition of G-d which was experienced at Sinai remains in the heart of every Jew, and is the spark of his or her Jewish identity.

Further, during his forty days and nights on Mount Sinai the entire Torah was revealed to Moses. The Sages tell us that "Every new idea which would ever be suggested by a scholar in discussion with his teacher - was told to Moses at Sinai".

Sinai was therefore the ultimate meeting point of G-d, the entire Jewish people and the Torah.



Beware of Fale Prophets like Suzi aka 'tru lilly', she will lead you into danger. cheers




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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  Billy Ruben on Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:11 pm

Do you want a lying fraud shill,representing and speaking for you,to the Christian God???
For years you have heard her claims,that she's had car bombings (which she changed to her daughter,recently),beatings twice,that put her in to hospital and that she is targetted by David Icke and Tintin,who run an International Cabal of Inept Hitmen.

She's deluded,that I would have sexual designs on herself,I detest the 50 year old prune.Slavic girls are beautiful,some,but I'm not even attracted to her ugly mind or mouth,so what is there to desire.I like functioning,mentally stable women,she's an erratic schizo psychopath.
I hit on people I would never want with forums,JD/John Drake being one,Vera Susa/True Lilly/Suzy Ryan,but if forced into a situation to choose between them both,I'll go twinky,and take JD's member deep in my mouth...eeeeeewww!!!!

lol!

But,the other day,True Lilly stepped over the line.She txt my missus,trying to stir trouble.She keeps all your data,if you're stupid enough to contact her and will never be left alone.I made that call from Sam's phone,cause she is disallowed and not trusted with home phones.But she's gone to far,with accusing all and sundry of child molestation,animal sex and more murderous plots,all of which is lies,as I filed a complaint with Ballarat Police and also informed them,of the slander she says against her former husband,who is allegedly a serving police officer.I wanted them to just question her,cause she'll go off the deep-end and start spouting the "Orange Order" is trying to kill me,that Israel is Australia and David Icke made my heater catch of fire,which is lies,she has animals in the house,she regulary sports photos of herself and family,sleeping with the doggies,they might be bored shitless of her endless rants,or it's some doggy-sex thingy going on with her clan or all of the above.

I was ignoring this forum,until I seen the Krokodile Thread and Zombie apocalypse...and stumbled on a post,where True Lilly constantly spams,Ciggy and I networking for child sex.I laughed at the pathetic moron at first and asked her nicely to stop.Where,delighted she finally got some attention,cause that is the only way she gets it,as I'm about to prove,with Tintins TNBTN thread.

That's her pathetic ploys which has snowballed into a very dangerous situation for her now.I am now,officially out to get her.For her own good,she must die,so she does'nt cause any more spiritual damage to herself.I'm doing her a favour.

Now lets prove what I'm saying.Her thread at the time,The Lying Conspiracy was being ignored,Vera Susa as it was known at David Icke forums,could'nt take the silence and miffed by rebuttals by the member Cori,she goes into meltdown.

What I want you to see,is she can't even live up to her own word,where she,quits the thread only to come back ten pages later,spamming the shit out of it,like she does here,when she can't win,bury the embarressing questions,cause everything she says,is a fuckin lie...everything.Tintin was right,any communication with her...and she'll twist to her own use,Tintin won't admit she's trying to extort him and Cori for money,but I can see right through this fuckin maniac...and IT is.

***to The Orange Order,my fees are $20,000,the head is deliverable as proof,I need a bogus marriage in Groningeng,for citizenship and she must be a nymphomaniac,to keep me occupied,while the search for Mr Ruben winds down,that should take a couple of days,considering True Lilly calls the local cops goat fuckers.Turn a blind eye fraternal policeman,we serve the same masters,Lucifer The Light bearer. Wink


Here' her same MO and tactics for the last 5 years,the ignorant fucking nonce she is...kick it,really locals,kick it.

Lilly's Kharma,1,2,3 and 4...Bugger you bitch...and I mean bugger,as buggery,in the biblical sense,you know,KNOWING YOUR DOG BIATCH...





Suzy's lover that started the heater on fire...I suggest a good grooming in future Suzy,before the friction of love...

Cori's pleas to be left alone as usual ignored,she's the criminal stalker,like she accuses me of...it's her kharma and feel no shame in what I do in future...



and the skin crawls...errrr!!!!

Jesus may have lost faith and given up,but I won't...

Time to start screaming BIATCH!!!!




Twisted Evil pig satan ccc butt roulette
fup fup fup fup guillotine Razz

Hey Cori,
I will take Germany as a second choice...Ich Bin Ein Berliner...visit Hansa studios and Groningeng is just over the border by train,so I can collect my weed on regular occassions and hang out with Jan at the red-light district,sounds good to me...


thumbs up lol!
Oh did I mention Ballarat Police confirmed True lilly/Vera Susa/Suzy Ryan is a complete liar about the car-bombings (none have occurred in 30 years) and that she has'nt been beaten up and put in hospital,mmmmmm,careful what you wish for Suzy...hehehe,
I can blow cars up without a frigging bomb,little missy.It's just a bad option in case INNOCENT GOOD PEOPLE GET HURT OR KILLED,hehehe,the up close and personal touch is the go.

For any of you who fell for her lies and probably donated money or things to her,feel bitter and angry,you have a right to be.
She's like Goebbels,repeat the lie often enough,people tend to buy it...and that's exactly how she works,self loathing jew Nazi Sympathizer...fark her!!!


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

fup fup fup fup

ccc ccc ccc ccc
true lilly wrote:EVIL is; denying and trying to force the world into denying,
the truly life saving warnings (given to us from the beginning),
in this age when we need to hear them most, and science
keeps proving that those warnings were given to us, from the
beginning, so that we would not have to suffer the first death,
under the rule of the prince of the air, or, second, and permanent,
death.


EVIL are; all those who worship, the prince of the air,
the father of the lie, and his religions of death worship,
they have shoved down the world's throat on his behalf
(for their own selfish desires), since the first man rejected
his God given
authority and handed his duty of care over
to a self serving, castrating, woman.


EVIL,is spreading lies and slander and sugar coating it as the "Word Of God",EVIL and PETTY is Suzy Ryan/True Lilly of Ballarat.EVIL is those who spread lies and rumours about being victimized to try and garner favour,money and free computers.Like you did at DIF and with Runlikehell.EVIL is every filthy lying dying word that excretes from that chasm you call a mouth.You'd do more good filling it with dogknot than ever uttering a word ever again.And the way you speak lies and slander,some would be happy to put you down as the rabid little thing that you are.I will not stop and continue to heckle,cajole,derail and threaten until I get my chance to debate you face to face...I'll be using a form of "Charades" so even an idiot such as yourself,can't misunderstand my message.See you, oh so very soon,Suzy Ryan.Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!...Cthulhu!

ccc

dizzy

True Lilly wrote:
That's
The First Commandment of
The Creator God,
Who told us, From The Beginning,
about

All This Real World He Really Created,
and THE AGE of LIFE, HERE
In This Real World, BEFORE

OXYGEN=the prince of the air=DEATH
...

There needs to be peace in the world.
But you see,there are some weird beliefs from religeous types,who not only welcome and celebrate our destruction,to us and our children,there are some who cannot wait for the seals of revelations to unfold,fruiters and fruit-loops like our very own forum prophet,True Lilly.I know her belief system,I know she's a Gerald Flurry fruiter groupie,but you see,in the interest of sorting the chaff from the wheat,I was hoping,Suzy Ryan/True Lilly,Gerald Flurry and all those type followers could hold their breathe now,and take no more,to set an example,from their sacrifice,that they trully loved us and stick by their beliefs,that they foist upon us,not so gentlely.It would be an exhibition of their true faith and belief and would applaud their move to do so,as I continue,to breathe the fumes from Beezlebubs arse,cause I'm a sell out and a proud satanist,for I cower and wish to continue to live.

God,she and her ilk are starting to sound like these death cults.If one had a choice,I'll take the Moonies,with wild sex and suicide at the end of it,but to live as a sexually frustrated fucked up christian and suicide without the drugs and group-sex,I just feel,somewhere,they got the short-end of the stick.If not,a few sandwhiches,short of a picnic....DER!!!!


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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  Billy Ruben on Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:25 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
True Fuckwit Lilly wrote:
And isn't that exactly what the 16 Moderators
on David Icke Official Forums do:
SELL that "ONENESS" AGENDA;

MOCK ANYONE NOT SELLING THE VIEWS 'THEIR'
MAIN STREAM PROMOTED ORGANISATIONS.

And, IF THE MOCKING FAILS TO CONVERT or SILENCE THEM,
'THEY' SIMPLY BAN THEM, OVER ALL 'THEIR' MAIN STREAM
PROMOTED FORUMS.

Yep, it's all the same mobs, as any Google search for information
on the ACTUAL, Secret Religious Agenda behind 'David Icke, shows.
As no matter how specifically you word your search, what little 'they'
offer is well and truly flooded out with glorious praise for Icke and
vicious attacks against those who have cared to warn others
of the hypocrisy of that man and his backers, supporters and
followers.
Such as demanding excuses for all 'his/their' hypocrisies be accepted
as some sort of evidence of 'humaness & holiness', while utterly
damning any of his/their opponents for life, on any unrelated
minor human failing, whether real, perceived or INVENTED.

btw, while on the subject...'Billy Ruben' also told me that
'he' has 'now' 'outed' 'himself'.

Why? Because 'Billy Ruben' is NOT one person, but,
'Billy Ruben' now needs to be, 'believed to be', one person.

'One person' who 'couldn't possibly be associated with' those
'Billy Ruben' has Publicly declared association with, and support
for.
Those who in the real world, simply can't afford
to be known to associate with the likes of 'Billy Ruben's',
'cori's' or each other.

And those who still have to act friendly in the real world,
when they are not busy posting as 'Billy Ruben's', 'cori's',
and the other on line 'names' that 'they' hide behind, while
plotting with 'their' real world, secret associates, for the
installation of 'their' Beastly One World Religion.

How do I know?
How didn't 'they' know I do?
Too busy inventing lies 'they' lie I say, mean and believe,
to bother listening to what I actually say, mean and know.
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True Lilly wrote:

btw, while on the subject...'Billy Ruben' also told me that
'he' has 'now' 'outed' 'himself'.

Why? Because 'Billy Ruben' is NOT one person, but,
'Billy Ruben' now needs to be, 'believed to be', one person.

'One person' who 'couldn't possibly be associated with' those
'Billy Ruben' has Publicly declared association with, and support
for.

uh-huh,did you know I outed myself before I even joined Sodlike you lying,faker,extortionist fuckwit???
Absolute no brainer beating your lies fool,no effort,but enjoyable all the same.
Billy Ruben wrote:What's your next trick True Lilly,same old MO for years,I know you...do you get it,inside and out...I know you...and run rings around your arguements,where a stupid shitbag like you can't understand the level of abuse you DESERVE,do you get it,it does'nt make you look good and me bad,you just demonstarte your stubborn stupidity...if someone needs a good beating to bash sense in them,it is you,madam...greatest dipshit I ever met online.This all snowballed from one lie...and now,I love it,ner,ner,ner,ner

Razz Razz Razz Razz
Billy Ruben wrote:We've gone through all this True Lilly,these days you speak untruths,lies,yes,distortions,just to get me to answer your piss poor boring offer nothing,crap-house threads...and I have the pleasure knowing that and to tell you to your face and publicly humiliate you,cause you offer,nothing...nothing at all...I found out,if you lived by the bible tonight,retard,you,as a woman,are not,NOT ALLOWED to preach the gospel,not only that,you twist and distort it.You see,you do this,you get attention,hate usually,cause you're a loner and lost your family support and love,Your ex-hubby is Mum and Dad,thanks to your madness...isn't there a little bit that feels pain reading that,can't you make amends and be a good mum,instead of a raving lunatic...love your people and keep it shut for a while,OK,,little Suzy.


Billy Ruben wrote:Here,I got YOU real good this time


Lilly,what does this say,know thy place...and shut the mouth,you have no right to speak of the bible,here's the farkin proof,I got you...


Billy Ruben wrote:Listen mental case,I answered this post in another thread,enjoy it while it last mate,every thread you've done and will do in future,will be put in your sub-forum.And THEN,I'll lobby Sod-Admin,with a bit of coke and a blowjob,to keep you there and post no-where else on this forum,so lap it up bitch,time is short,ner,ner,ner,ner

Razz Razz Razz Razz
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True Lillys' Pm where she's BOASTFULLY proud of losing her family to have communion and telepathic Rapport with demons...uh,I mean't GOD...read on.Remember,she used my PM's first and my Phone TXT's,so I'm completely blameless,bringing this revelation to you...and proud!!!
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Married: 21-11-1981
First of 3 children to that, my one husband,
Born: 12-11-1982
Followed by 9 straight years of breastfeeding and/or being pregnant.

So old fashioned, you have to go back to genesis,
and that's why all my, worldly lusting, family hated me,
but failing to make me reject my faith in God,
they turned on and still, sabotage my children,
for which, they will answer to GOD'S Judgement,
and my children will be forgiven their errors,
taught them by those they can't believe, could,
hate God so bitterly...yet...

You see Suzy,I knew your family turned on you,look at some of the things you do that drive people away.God does'nt want neurotic followers,you have to have a normal life too...

Breastfeeding is excellent...both our kids did two years each on the tit,also mixed with food and drink as they developed,it was my idea back then too.Our kids did'nt cry,whinge or keep us up at night,pretty blessed we were back then...My ideas,not hers...was'nt a bad bloke either.
You know nothing, because they are the same people of your camp, that loaded so many fools with their bad 'intelligence' about me (too busy selling the lie, to bother to get to actually know those they lie about: 'insider' knowledge doesn't come from close proximity, but closeness in mind and heart), in an effort to cover their sins of sacrificing the small, weak and powerless, to acquire their personal desires. The same people who hate anyone who loves doing just service. The same people, so stupid as to destroy every blessing I freely gave and shared with them, rather than ever admit those blessings came from their own, faithful lover of The Creator. I simply walked away from them so they wouldn't keep compounding their sins, but they are even more stupid than I wanted to admit, and keep sending their little lap dogs to snap at me and mine...with things like trying to blow up my daughter with her first car. So stupid that they keep proving their associations (in those snipping efforts), with the Low Lives that their public persona's are held to be 'above', and so also undermining any chance of recovery from their coming, very personal 'crashes' that I kept privately warning them they are headed for if they don't at lest relent if they can't yet repent. So stupid they stepped up their evils, from under the (now transparently thin), cover of The LOWEST of LOW of 'their' associates (that in turn expose 'their' 'powerful' associates who really can't afford to be seen to share those same, Low associations), rather than simply back off. Powerful associates I also warned of the dumb bunnies and traitors in their circles.
So, in your case, I'm glad you keep peddling their crap.
And, they should also know by now, how many and who, of those lap dogs and dumb bunnies, did not pass on my warnings, that they really wish they had have received...oh, it won't make those 'family' and 'friends' any more inclined to finally do right by me, far too blinded by pride, but they will be blaming and turning on more of their own ilk to punish them, for what they are too proud to admit, their own pride cost them. Which in turn will further piss off the Powerful people as they do their cost benefit analysis of the association they can afford to maintain.

If I were bitter, I would have been sneaking around taking vengeance or sitting back silently waiting, to enjoy my enemies coming just deserts, but instead I keep risking my life, by standing in the middle of the road, Calling, "CAR!"...and it breaks my heart for them, to see how much they would rather die, than admit I could, let alone would, still care to warn them.

so... and try to think, you may actually learn something worth understanding.


Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Ha! and who DIDN'T see this coming!

Craig Oxley+Cruise, David Icke+tintin,

Cruise=tintin,

'the jesuits did it','cos they are the jews',

Unhinged Minds=Unhived Lizards,


and so on, throughout CONspiracy land...
Rolling Eyes

What?Are you going to spam your way through life now...AND,I thought you did'nt believe in the Reptilians,eating your own words,not hard to do...If I remember from your mad rantings,did'nt Tintin = David Icke,or you finally figured out your error there...sheesh!!!
rolf rolf
Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
The timing was 'interesting', because it was posted,
after my ex left...mmm...yes, and more besides. See,
I was going to have a rest, after posting about 'Billy Ruben's'
latest phone threats, when who should rock up, for the second,
unannounced time today, but my ex. Only this time, he simply had to,
drop some *KEY Private Meaning Words=personal threats at me,
and 'arrange' to get my son out of the house, tomorrow, the 26th,
yep, he also had to randomly 'drop' the fact that that is tomorrow's date,
and yeah, that is 'that date' on which 'they' just luuvvv trying to
bash me to death.

The message was timely, because it addresses what it is
that I am most hated for;
simply, my faith, in The Perfect Justice of Our Loving Creator,
and that the countless blessings I've enjoyed, I've always credited to God,
and that it has never been in my heart to blame God, for my sins and errors,
or the evils of those who knowingly, willing, hate and fight God...
...as 'The Billy Ruben's' have always been desperate to force me to do,
by inflicting great injustices and evils on me AND MINE, then cackling,
"where's your god now"...while missing the point, that it is My God,
The Creator of us all, Who brought me into Their Lives, to be a witness
of His countless blessings, and warn them against choosing to reject
The Saving Grace of His Living Word.

*KEY Private Meaning Words=personal threats:
you know, the sort of things diagnosed sociopaths just have to
admit behind closed doors, like admissions of past crimes against
you and promises of more to come, while sneering that 'no one
will believe you, including the police'; Just As His Very Public
Defender, 'Billy Ruben', keeps Publicly Boasting He Does, and
Publicly Threatening, To Do More and Worse.

Hey Suzy Ryan,
send my regards and love to your ex-hubby,Billy ruben2 Ryan,we have concluded after the meeting with the Australian Division of the Orange Order,to get your son out of the house,before I "Whack" you and take your head for payment,as we do sex rites and magic rituals with your corpse to curse you for your next life,I want you to come back as a fly,because,you'll be a maggot first,then,I'll catch you,then I'll pull your wings off and you wont be a fly anymore,but a Walk,then I swat you and you'll be a Dead...

Fark You Bitch...and your son should be left alone,cause you're a nutter,spreading shit in his brain...


lol!

Billy Ruben wrote:The above spammed bullshit is the usual crap she's been shoving down everybodies throats for the last two weeks.BOYS AND GIRLS AT HOME,DON'T YOU JUST HATE JESUS AND GOD WHEN IT COMES FROM THE FILTHY DYING CHASMS LIKE THIS LOUDMOUTHED FREAK.SHE DOES GOD A DIS-SERVICE...HAVE SONG BITCH...F*CK YOU GOD...



Billy Ruben wrote:"It is our duty to insult him,F*ck you god,Strike me down if you dare you tyrant,you non-existant fraud..."


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satan ccc
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Lilly,since you're brave because you stand by God and all that...can we have a nice picture of your face,please?
I'd like to design your very own Christian Prophetess Icon,it would be a gas and very,very funny!Trust me for once...



rolf
Billy Ruben wrote:
el kabong wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Please don't spam my threads True Lilly,thankyou,love Billy...

she is Barking Mad isn't she Billyboy?

I found your reminiceings interesting until Lilly Queen of Bullshit showed up and flooded your Thread like she does everywhere on this Forum.

My condolences ol' chap.
tiphat

Thankyou...that's really want I want to do,write about the day that's been and other things,then,ya get SPAMMED TO DEATH AND OUT THE DOOR...it changes day to day,you come here to defend yourself from "babyfucker" allegations,then,you remember the free atmosphere and pink,then you remember you liked the place...so,good,you get bent,it's been a nice day and night,so,you offer the forum something a little different and get shat upon from forum prophet,although false she be,forum nutter,stalker,crazy woman,True lilly...

Glad you see it and thanks for the up about writing shit,appreciate it.Billy... thumbs up
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:...seems I'm not supposed to post what I found...

...PRAY.

that's right... thumbs up

It began like this

Billy Ruben wrote:then encrypted rambling spam...

then True lilly started to screaming insanely,because the need to SPAM was so great

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote: ... silent... silent... silent... ... Cool Wink

got to you did'nt it?

then half an hour later,you spammed,and did'nt you let it out.
You have a problem Suzy,besides being a closet pisspot.
Actually,come to think about it,you're irredeemable...

You have clear issues...I could've saved you the cost of a SMS,I replied,U R insane... wub wacky cheers


and what's worse,f*ck-all to use for the bloody Powerball.

Pissed off...

Billy Ruben wrote:then,sure as shit,easy to predict,Billy gets niggley...

she spams some more


Billy Ruben wrote:Lilly...

Listen here,there's no need to spam my fucking thread,ok?

I made it plain I read you fucking threads,got it?

No more fucking spam,you fucking old biddy... thumbs down cthulhu

I can't take it no more... aaargh

Billy Ruben wrote:...and thirst for blood,nearing a coronary,he refrains from swearing...

Billy Ruben wrote:So delving into her childhood by telepathic ethernet,I found rather disturbing,but strangely stimulating images and references..
Billy Ruben wrote:You see Lilly,being the country girl that you are and always been,...this is love.



Not just being a CHAMPION BREEDER,BUT YOU SEE,when you was little,most kids learn't,from dogs,the 70's my era,what swingers party was on for the night...and for me,the local toilet wall...and THAT was eye-opening.

But not you,no...out there on the meadows,soft breeze in your hair,dandelions float and sway dropping its seed in mysterious locations,just solitude,you and a horse with a rather large erect penis...


Billy Ruben wrote:which led to much deeper and psychological complexities turned into a positive and prosperous venture..

Billy Ruben wrote:But this love and fascination was not lost,now was it?
There was a market for horse stimulators and this sticky enterprise paid handsome dividends...



And yourself,being a proud and rather talented and gifted horse stimulator,made a nice handsome living...until much further down the track,when you discovered that copious ingestion of the spirit known as Gin,helped you contact the God Of Oztralia and soaked in Gin you delivereth...

Many unkind messages...


Uh OK,True Lilly,your God gives Allah head...there,insulted???

There,take that and the toilet paper you keep quoting,The BlueLetterBible,suck on my littl'un...BIATCH!!!


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Billy Ruben wrote:She tried talking over the top of me,hahahahaha,I laughed in her face about exposing her for years of lies and relying on the generosity of others with those lies.I also said,the only reason she outed her name,phone number etc,was to lend credibilty to those lies...and that's excatly how it is...besides,she's completely mad.For now on,she only fools the fools,like Palomino,but others who suspected truth to her...there is none.She called me a big dickless cock and hung up...wooooooo,arguement defeating line that one...

rolf lol!

Billy Ruben wrote:It's a small forum dip-shit,you can't spam and hide and hope half a dozen posters will help bury it.How'd you feel about Cori being here last night,oh,that's right,hahahahahahahaha,you ran away and logged off,like you do everytime that tiny brain has no way of worming its way out,hahahahahaha...F*ck Yeah...

True Lilly wrote:

But on another matter:
This is a "dumb crime",
of 'Billy Ruben aka Jason aka Jase';
Received: 19-8-2011
Billy Ruben wrote:Nothing smart to say
today fuckwit,good
know ur place
in future chump,or
serious business
,i
hate u 4 wot u say &
the way i set it
up
,cops wont help u

.up urs sweetie

True Lilly wrote:
No 'Billy Ruben', so why don't 'you' enlighten us,
as to WHY 'you' love to PUBLICLY BRAG that 'you' HAVE
POLICE WILLING TO ACT CORRUPTLY FOR 'YOU'?
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Just to make it clear;
how does 'Billy Ruben' believe this 'proves' that
I am 'not' a victim of bitter individuals who are also
criminally corrupt public officials, who cover each other's arses?

Billy Ruben wrote:Billy Says:


Billy Ruben wrote:Nothing smart to say
today fuckwit,good
know ur place
in future chump,or
serious business
,i
hate u 4 wot u say &
the way i set it
up
,cops wont help u

.up urs sweetie
True Lilly wrote:And it get 'better'. Rolling Eyes Just in...

Billy Ruben wrote:Sucked in jewish dog
rooting lying slut,do u
know the real reason
i got the cops to
ignore u
,huh?ur a
goner
Billy Ruben wrote:Soon as negotiations
r finalised
demons
will disapear u,errrr!


Billy Ruben wrote:well,call the police and file a complaint

rolf


True Lilly wrote:
And it get 'better'. Rolling Eyes Just in...

Billy Ruben wrote:Prove it slag,someone must've hacked my phone,I did'nt say that.... rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:Tintin was right,any communication with her...and she'll twist to her own use,Tintin won't admit she's trying to extort him and Cori for money,but I can see right through this fuckin maniac...and IT is.

Billy Ruben wrote:For any of you who fell for her lies and probably donated money or things to her,feel bitter and angry,you have a right to be.
She's like Goebbels,repeat the lie often enough,people tend to buy it...and that's exactly how she works,self loathing jew Nazi Sympathizer...fark her!!!

Billy Ruben wrote:JUST RANG THE LYING COW,SHE AVOIDED ALL THE QUESTIONS HAD NOTHING TO SAY AND HER SPEECH WAS SO SLOWED AND SLURRED,SHE WAS DOSED UP ON SOMETHING,PITY,IT DOES'NT REMOVE HER DELUSIONS ABOUT EVERYONE SHE INTERACTS WITH.I WROTE HER OFF,NO SWEARING OR THREATS AND LAUGHED IN HER FACE FOR DESTROYING HER CREDIBILTY (VERY LITTLE OF) AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE DENIES AND SPAMS AWAY,EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND SHE'LL NEVER RECOVER FROM IT."sHE SAYS,I GOT TO GO NOW,THANKYOU",IN THAT HIDEOUS PIXIE SHIT TONE VOICE OF HERS,UGLY OUTSIDE AND UGLY TO THE BONE THAT ONE IS...THIS IS VICTORY...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STEP WAY OVER THE LINE,FOR TOO LONG,THIS HAS BEEN COMING...SHE'S SO UGLY,YOU GOT NO IDEA,THE VULGARNESS OF ITS VOICE,HIDEOUS.HERE'S HER PHONE NUMBER:0424705576...SORRY,I CHOSE BROWN,BROWN FOR POOP THAT DRIVELS OUT HER MOUTH...

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Post  Billy Ruben on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:03 am

Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note*
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:...or, a SHOVEL...
...'Billy Ruben', please stop threatening me with death,
over the phone...

...and in other ways...

it would be really nice if what I post Would appear AS I write and format it
first time, every time...
but that ain't gunna happen, is it....prob for the best....

LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR...AND PROVE IT!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!! lol!

iT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY,YES,SO WHY WASTE IT MAKING UP STORIES,THAT YOU LAUGH IN MY FACE,I DO THAT TO YOU,YOU HANG UP,EVERYTIME,YOU MISERABLE OLD GOAT.yOU GOT YOUR CRACKPOT MATES...AND I HAVE MY FAMILY,RIGHT HERE AND NOW,LOVING BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE,SAME AS WHAT YOU USED TO HAVE,UNTIL YOU DID AN ABRAHAM...AND ACTUALLY SACRIFICED THEM FOR YOUR LOVING BENEVOLENT GOD,THAT PUT CHILDPORN ON YOUR PC,TOLD YOU HE'S A DEMON,BUT OH NO,YOU KNOW BETTER...STILL GOING THROUGH YOUR THREAD,QUIET YOU,OH,YOU SPAMMED,BAD GIRL,REVENGE...BUT SHE LIVES ALONE,SO WHO PUT THE CHILD-PORN THERE,SHE DID,TRYING TO SET HER FAMILY UP,OR SHE GENUINELY LIKES IT,WELL,SHE CAN TELL THAT TO THE JUDGE

rolf

Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note****

CHILD PORN ALERT/PEADOPHILIA ALERT/BABYFUCKER ALERT/CHILD MOLESTER ALERT/ALERT,ALERT,ALERT!!!!!

BAD WOMAN,SUZY RYAN KEEPS CHILD-PORN ON HER PC...ARREST,PROSECUTE,THROW AWAY THE KEY...SUSPECT DOG MOLESTER TOO!!!!



Billy Ruben wrote:Suzy Ryan Of Ballarat has childporn on her PC/Australian Federal Police,Take Note****

CHILD PORN ALERT/PEADOPHILIA ALERT/BABYFUCKER ALERT/CHILD MOLESTER ALERT/ALERT,ALERT,ALERT!!!!!

BAD WOMAN,SUZY RYAN KEEPS CHILD-PORN ON HER PC...ARREST,PROSECUTE,THROW AWAY THE KEY...SUSPECT DOG MOLESTER TOO!!!!




Billy Ruben wrote:and more babyfuckers and occultist,that she knows nothing about,hence the ineffective Kinesiology bullshit she recommends...

you are the babyfucker and have childporn,cause you're a sick fucked up unit and blame others,time for Gaol Suzy,I will use this next with the police,don't believe,just watch me,babyfucker...











Hang on,I forgot,back in a sec...F*ck,God wiped my mind clear...ah,that's right,bumped,the thread of importance,the one that shows Suzys pre-occupation with child porn and accusing all and sundry of doing it,Go on,ring her phone,just to hear that evil,pixie voice of hers,she's a hideous troglydite...horrible,evil nasty witch,beware little children and puppies and especially little kitty friends,evil,pure evil...Hansel and Gretel met their end with this one long ago...she uses puppies instead of candy...
0424705576

...and like she accused Ozpixie as Christine,the one who blackmails men after making them F*ck goats and when I investigated,turns out True Lilly and I have no idea of her first name,she denies she made the post,when I found it and replicated it...lying bitch,but here's the truth...it's her and her mob,that sleep with the doggies...errrrrrr,Cthulhu



F*ck You,Zieg Heil!!!You are a parasiteFACT!!!I AM CAT!!!For The CHILDREN!!!
now how does that feel dragon,to be on the receiving end...Grrr,take that!!!errrrrrrrrrrrrr,CTHULHU!!!...and you made me hate God,now,I hate you...GRRRRR




cthulhu lmao
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fuk suzis aka tru lillys complaints about Kity Kat Posts. lmao rolf thumbs up

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[/quote]
Darwinism ....they had to do all sorts of tricky things like invent the
never ending word, "species", to even begin to accommodate that doozie...
....but that does bring us to; "KIND". As Noah's time was during the early
super continent age, he didn't have the vast array of "species", or even
"families" of animals, to save the gene base of, but only the original (since
the last time the whole globe was covered by water), parent kinds of ancient,
long ago extinct animals, that other family types branch off from.
Bears, dogs, same root stock, along with others, of more ancient relatives.
And so on, through all what we've been been taught to accept as "species",
to the relatively few, genetic root stock carriers, of that very ancient age.


New Dolphin Species
Discovered in Big City Harbor

Identified by DNA tests, the new mammals were right under researchers' noses.


A Burrunan dolphin—one of an entirely new species—
surfaces near Melbourne, Australia.

Photograph by Adrian Howard/AFP/Getty Images

Ker Than for National Geographic News
Published September 16, 2011

An entirely new species of dolphin has been discovered in Australia, and not in some isolated lagoon but in the shadows of skyscrapers, scientists say.
(Related: "New, 'Chubbier' River Dolphin Species Found in Bolivia.")

One of only three new dolphin species found since the 1800s, the Burrunan
dolphin—naed after an Aboriginal phrase that means "large sea fish of
the porpoise kind"—is known from only two populations so far, both in
the state of Victoria (map).


About a hundred Burrunan dolphins have been found in Port Phillip Bay (map) near Melbourne, Australia's second most populous city. Another 50 are known to frequent the saltwater coastal lakes of the Gippsland region (map), a couple hundred miles or so away.

(Also see "Six Thousand Rare, Large River Dolphins Found in Bangladesh.")

Dolphin DNA Surprise

It's long been known that distinct dolphin populations roam off southeastern
Australia. But now DNA tests have shown that the creatures dolphins are
genetically very different from the two recognized bottlenose dolphin
species, the common bottlenose dolphin and the Indo-Pacific bottlenose.

The results were so surprising that the team initially thought there was a mistake and reran the tests, said study leader Kate Charlton-Robb, a marine biologist at Australia's Monash University.

"The main focus of the research was to figure out which of the two [known] bottlenose species these guys were," she said.

"But from the [DNA] sequences that we got, it turned out that they were
very different from either of the two known species."


The team also examined dolphin skulls, collected and maintained by
Australian museums over the last century, and determined that Burrunan
dolphins have slight cranial differences that set the species apart.

Finally, the animals just plain look different, Charlton-Robb said.

Compared to the other bottlenoses, Burrunan dolphins have a more curved dorsal
fin, a stubbier beak, and a unique "tricoloration"—including dark gray,
mid-gray, and white.

(See a new, snub-fin dolphin species found in New Guineau.)

New Dolphin Nearly Discovered a Century Ago

So how did the dolphins escape researchers' notice for so long?
Physical variations in dolphins in southeastern Australia have been reported for
decades, though the new study is the first to use multiple lines of
evidence to make a strong case for a new species, Charlton-Robb said.


In fact, the Burrunan dolphin was almost discovered in 1915, after a biologist
captured and examined two very different dolphins from Australian waters.


Scientists at the time concluded that both the animals were common bottlenose
dolphins, and that their differences were due to one being male and the other female.
After reviewing the female dolphin's skeleton recently, though,
Charlton-Robb's team determined she was a Burrunan.


Because so few of the new dolphin species are known, the Burrunan research team
has petitioned the Australian government to list the animals as endangered.


"Given the small size of the population," Charlton-Robb said,
"it's really crucial that we make an effort to protect them."

More: watch video of pink river dolphins >>
The new dolphin species is formally described online Wednesday in the journal PLoS One.




true lilly wrote:It's tough being ginger,
even when you're a seal

Daily Mail
From: Daily Mail
September 16, 2011
1:52PM

31 comments

A rare albino brown-furred seal has been rescued
after being rejected by his family and left to fend for himself.
Picture: Picture Media
Supplied


A RARE ginger-furred seal pup was spotted alone on a Russian island
after being shunned by its colony.

The rest of its sleek black family took an instant dislike to the
pup's reddish-brown fur and pale blue eyes, leaving it to fend for
itself.


Photographer Anatoly Strakhov spotted the seal,
which is almost blind, hiding under a pile of logs on Tyuleniy Island.

Mr Strakhov, 61, said:
"He was hiding and waiting for his mother to come and feed him.

"He had a very strange colour fur
and looked different from his two black brothers.

"I was pleased to be able to capture such an unusual animal,
but the poor seal is almost blind and so was unlikely to survive in the wild."

Mr Strakhov was with staff from a dolphinarium
who took the seal pup into their care.


Related Coverage

Sad seal story has happy ending Courier Mail, 19 hours ago
Fears for missing seal pup Adelaide Now, 17 Aug 2011
Calls to cull KI's rogue seals Adelaide Now, 7 Aug 2011
Baby Animals The Daily Telegraph, 6 Aug 2011
Kiwi teen admits to killing 25 seals The Australian, 19 Jul 2011

Read more at the
Daily Mail
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It's like a big reminder of Benjamin,
when all the other Tribes of Israel,
banned marriage with a Benjaminite,
until Benjamin nearly became extinct,
so the rest of The Tribes of Israel,
decided they could take wives for themselves
from the women doing the circle dances...
...not Israelites...not husbands...they'd been
cut off from marriage with the rest of The Tribes
of Israel....
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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:33 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
And there's 'Billy Ruben' with 'his'
months of death threats that specify such methods,
and associating himself with bad cops, health unionists,
biker groups, and really bad dudes...which you would right off,
as an attention seeking nutter...but for the at least
3 different phones 'he' uses, and, the others who know of,
and approve of 'his' death threats
, and the very specific
associations 'he' brags of, that make 'him' believe
'he's' 'untouchable'
enough to keep getting away with it.

...and then of course, there are
the 2 Car Bombs I've already survived...
and the other attacks by really bad dudes, etc...

and 'Jason/Billy Ruben's' dangerously erratic and
volatile behaviour that makes 'him' a liability to
'friends', 'associates' and
anyone 'he' 'perceives'
as a 'foe'.
Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes


We've all been through this.
Two months ago,when I got sick of True Lillys',baseless,groundless,slander and lies,against everyone whom she finds dis-pleasure with,ie,anybody who does'nt unquestioning believe,who littany of lies.
Frustrated to the point of doing something stupid,I decided to take my chances with Ballarat Police,close to where Suzy lives,she being the "BUM" part of town,Wendouree West,known for its bakeries and cock gobbling glory holes of Hollioke Park.
...I have the phone bill here to prove I rang on a Saturday.
Anyway,not expecting to get anywhere,especially,if I gave away my relationship with NSW Police,to be rather strained at best.
I was surprised to have my queries answered by a very professional and seasoned officer,who knew the law and history of Victoria and Ballarat.
...After describing my complaint,being accused as a babyfucker and goat abuser and so has many others by this nutter.I mentioned Suzy's ex-husband,Bill Ryan,a serving member?,remember,this is Suzy data,it could be made up at the bottom of a Gin bottle.

BAck in a minute...
The officer then took an interest and began looking for this Bill Ryan.I said to the officer,she'd be easy to remember,her car was blown up by bombing in her driveway and herself has been beaten up twice and put in a hospital.I could hear the keyboard,thumping away in the background,he's researching the data as I speak.He had a chuckle and said,there has'nt been a car-bombing in the state of Victoria for 30 years and that was the Russell St bombing.
...The officer,whose name I'll keep secret until Suzy Ryan,True Lilly/Vera Susa wants to reveal more or challenge this,said she can't be charged the way the laws stand now,but that may differ in the near future.

That sad little tale,that Suzy Ryan/True Lilly made up,lied about,she has been milking the public and friends for years,whether it's money,computers or a lift down the street,True Lilly has been profiting off her lies for many years now,off the good will of her readers.
She continues with her lies,cause they serve her well.I exposed her for this and hopefully,slowly,others catch on.She even plays this on her own family,and she abandoned them,in favour of delivering Gods Saving Word,her schizoid spam,even over the love of her children.Still think she's not a threat,guess again,she's a dangerous,manipulative,game-playing,conspiring schizoid,who fooled many of you with her old lady act.
She isn't nice,frail or alone.She's very well connected.She's a liar,slanderer,extortionist,is this the quality of character,that one should have to advocate God for you?
Nutter extraordinaire...But wait,there's more,WOOF,WOOF...


rolling pin dogshag butt Razz

Billy Ruben wrote:I finally read the porn spam I posted yesterday.I just hit,Taboo Erotic Stories and copy and pasted the first one,which was an incest story.Not to pleased about that,I resorted to the truth,until I can find a tale,about a lonely teenage girl,curious,with a very obedient Ridgeback dog...


thumbs up dogshag dizzy rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I see you're here True Lilly,if you'd like,do you want to have three way conversation with Ballarat Police about your car-bombings and bashings that put you in hospital that you have failed for years to prove,with any evidence.I'm rigged,right now,to tape the conversation and post it,if you like...Bet you have'nt got the ticker,little liar...

fup roulette foff Razz


Well,come on True Lilly,scared off the word you use for your online name,True as in Gospel Truth...let's go,I challenge you,I sent you texts,you're still logged on,let's see if you can face yourself,what you are and what you have done.I mean it's only a matter of time,you can face the justice of man,or the hand of God,still think you're a dearly beloved favourite,well,let's see the truth.I already know,I just want you to face the lies and destruction you've done to your own and many others,you're hated for a reason Suzy Ryan...and it has nothing to do with God or your version on how you see it.I got you Suzy Ryan/True lilly...I got you.You can pretend to not acknowledge it,but you do,know it.

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Told ya, 'They' ARE THE PROFESSIONAL SPAMMERS...

Post  true lilly on Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:59 am

Told ya, 'They' ARE THE PROFESSIONAL SPAMMERS...
...and I'm the very independent little no body,
with only Wink my faith in The Creator God, Who
answers faithful prayer, in His perfect ways and times.
And 'they' want me dead, for caring to freely share,
real world, real life examples of GOD'S PROMISES KEPT,
so other's to, may answer His Call to Perfectly Just,
Perfectly Beautiful, Life, Eternally Creating New Life,
as fully adopted members of Our Holy Father's Family.


Oh, and note WIKI's Logo:
The North is Broken and Void,
while 'they' 'remain silent' about

The South
Suspect
MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
beetzart77 wrote:What does all this mean? What are you striving to prove? I used to like this forum but you have completely ruined it with total spam, with a religious twang to it. Is there unlimited interenet use at the asylum and shouldn't you be playing monopoly or something?



Foundation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For the WikiMedia Foundation, see :Foundation:Home.

Foundation may refer to:...

...but NOT TO...

about foundation

Fact sheet


Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services

Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050

Home
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Foundation is a media activation company.




...but ONLY "imagine" as,



and "FOUNDATION", are WELL PAID
to ENSLAVE OTHERS to PREVENT THAT!


Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation
, 2 days ago

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on this server.Reference #18.a45c637a.1319092707.4b1e6f82

Now, lets look at those
"FOUNDATION" Associations:

Clemenger Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Clemenger Group Limited[1]

is the holding company of a group of companies
involved in advertising
and marketing communications services
throughout Australia and New Zealand.

It is the largest communications group in Australia and New Zealand.
Clemenger Group Limited has about 1500 employees and
is headquartered in
Melbourne, Australia
[2].
53.33% of the shares are held by
Clemenger Communications staff

and 46.67% by
BBDO Worldwide.
BBDO Worldwide is in turn
part of the Omnicom Group,
which the largest
communications group in the world
.


(gee, I wonder where their 'staff'
have their Big Bickies INVESTED.
Maybe Old New AMSTERDAM/New York, New York)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnicom_Group
Headquarters
New York, New York, USA
Time Line:
2006 buys 50% shareholding in
180 Amsterdam and 180 LA

Oh here, Rolling Eyes KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT
affraid
...and you still wonder why, with the Global CONspiracy Industry,
peddling the Global "Truther" Movement, into every big & little life,
all over the world, for decades, that things keep getting worse and
worse, and BANNING INDEPENDENT VOICES HAS BECOME THE NORM
Rolling Eyes
true lilly wrote:What The HELL is "FOUNDATION"?

I really can't be bothered re-explaining what all this means,
but I'm sure readers who have followed the exchanges between me
and my attackers, like 'tintin' and 'David Icke's' 'australian' members,
will notice "FOUNDATION" has more in common with 'tintin/them'
than 'their' tired old tactic of DENYING ACCESS,
to INDEPENDENT THINKERS/RESEARCHERS who have NOT BEEN
BOUGHT OFF, TO PEDDLE MORE TRAITOROUS PROPAGANDA.


Outgoing SA Premier Mike Rann says others can judge
by:By Tim Dornin
From:
AAP
October 20, 2011
2:21PM

OUTGOING South Australian Premier Mike Rann says it's up to others to judge him.

But the man often dubbed "media Mike" is not shy about listing his government's achievements since coming to office in 2002.

By any measure it's a reasonably impressive list.

In recent weeks the premier has signed-off on the banning of mining in the
environmentally-sensitive Arkaroola Sanctuary in the Flinders Ranges
and also the deal to have BHP Billiton spend $30 billion expanding the
Olympic Dam copper and uranium mine.

Over the past decade it has also increased spending on health and education,
opening new schools and employing more doctors and nurses.

It has also built a desalination plant, started construction on a new central hospital and
approved the major redevelopment of Adelaide Oval.

Related Coverage

Rann bids farewell as Premier Adelaide Now, 1 hour ago

SA poised for greatness, says Rann
Foundation, 1 hour ago

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Editorial: Farewell, Premier Rann Adelaide Now, 48 minutes ago

Rann says deputy a victim of 'power play'
Foundation
, 2 days ago

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on this server.Reference #18.a45c637a.1319092707.4b1e6f82

Mike Rann: The man who 'saved' Arkaroola Adelaide Now, 4 days ago

In defence, SA secured the contracts to build the Navy's next fleet of submarines
and also the air warfare destroyers.

The Government has also championed renewable energy, with SA now generating
more than half the nation's wind power and becoming a leader in solar power.

But there's been issues too.

Mr Rann has been forced to deny an affair with a former parliamentary waitress and
watched on as his deputy and long-serving treasurer Kevin Foley was twice assaulted.

A Labor MP was also
charged with child pornography offences

and was suspended from the ALP
while there have also been
a simmering row with the union movement
over cuts to public sector jobs and conditions.

That row has characterised the sometimes wider criticism levelled at Mr Rann
and his government, that they don't always listen to the people or properly consult
before finalising projects or policies.

In a balancing act, the wins probably outweigh the losses, but as Mr Rann suggests,
the final say will be up to others.

"Overall I think that one day people will probably say all of these things were
about a state that's more confident about itself, more outward looking,"
he says.

"That we're a destination again rather than a beloved home town that people
had to leave to find opportunities elsewhere."

More personally, Mr Rann says being the SA Premier has been the
"greatest privilege of my life".

"I wanted to leave the state in better shape than I found it, and I wanted
to leave the party in better shape than when I took over," he says.

"I think on both of those there's big tick."

Mr Rann is expected to officially stand down as premier tomorrow.


about foundation

Fact sheet


Company Details:
Foundation Works Pty Ltd
(previously Davinci-Selectwork)
ABN 66 110 479 617
Level 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065
Credit Rating – AA
Established August 2004
26 Employee’s
Majority shareholder – Clemenger Group Limited Pty Ltd

Core Business:
Media Strategy, Planning, Buying, Research, Analytics and Creative Services

Media billings – $80M, Foundation is part of the Omnicom Media Group
who invest $1.2B with media owners to leverage competitive media rates
for clients.

Key Clients:
Mercedes-Benz, AUSTAR Entertainment, Guide Dogs Australia, CSR –
Monier, Fuel TV, Tony Ferguson Weightloss, Opera Australia, GJ Gardner
& KAO Australia, Living Social.

Contact:
Martin Patton – Managing Director
Martin.Patton@foundation-aus.com
Lvl 7, 120 Pacific Highway, St Leonards, NSW 2065, Australia
Phone: 61 2 8093 8050

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Foundation is a media activation company.

We believe in the power of an idea and bringing it to life.
Foundation's activation model delivers complete campaigns,
however our point of difference is that we are media led.
This model allows us to take ownership of the entire campaign delivery
and introduce specialist services as needed.
Our mantra is creating opportunity.

This forms the Foundation of our thinking.

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ABOUT FOUNDATION

Resources

Foundation is unique in that we operate as an independent business
but backed by the Clemenger Group, Australia’s largest communications
group.

Our ownership guarantees security and access to market leading resources normally reserved for large multinational agencies.

We can deliver an end-to-end campaign, strategy to channel planning to creation to implementation and through to measurement.

about foundation


Agency Culture

Everyone at Foundation has the opportunity to be a shareholder and to
have some ‘skin in the game’, which has its unique benefits.


It allows Foundation to be a true entrepreneurial business where
staff members are each empowered to create opportunities for our
clients, the business and themselves through proactive ideas and
innovative ways of operating.

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(Oh DO, click and SEE WHO 'THEY' Are!)

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clients

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We approach every client challenge with a tool box of resources
as every brief is different. The agency uses a process called
‘Evolution’ to navigate, develop and pressure test
every communications plan.


ROI is fundamental in delivery of effective campaigns.
Our strategies are guided by business and consumer insights.
Foundation has invested heavily
in consumer research and macro-analytics,

which influence and support our communications planning.
We believe better insight delivers better results.

Having media and creative working together means both disciples feed
of each other and are working on a common strategy.
Activating the
opportunity is about bringing the idea to life across multiple channels
cohesively.

Our media planners and buyers are connected through the entire
process and help guide the outcome.
They work closely with media owners
and focus on maximising value, whilst reducing the opportunity cost.

Then we learn and refine.

services


Planning & buying

Some like to separate the planning and buying functions by calling it
communications planning or channel planning and traders or investors.
We simply call it implementation planning.

The two functions are intrinsically linked, we believe in one cohesive approach
with media owners to access every available asset
for the best possible price.

The key reason being that channel mix, media weight and opportunities
to create memorable campaigns are relevant to cost and the key to a
‘win’ negotiation is not to be divided.

Implementation planning represents 80% of delivering a campaign to
market, we place a high importance on it
and it’s why we back ourselves
with performance related remuneration structures.

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Post  mugglez on Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:13 am

el kabong wrote:fuk suzis aka tru lillys complaints about Kity Kat Posts. lmao rolf thumbs up

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May this House be built quickly in our time. Amen.


SEE, another sly admission that
'They' The King of The NORTH,
and his followers,
MEAN TO TAKE AUSTRALIA
FOR 'THEM'................... rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin ..............................

er........suzi........................only the rankest moron(you) would have projected that reply to my Post.........well done....again. thumbs up

FYI...they are talking about Jerusalem, in Israel.....................what don't you understand about that?

Was YHWHS previous two Temples in Australia?

NO.

Israel is the Eternal Promised Land................NOT Australia......... thumbs up lmao rolf


Neither will be the Third, and when the New Jerusalem decends it will over the old Jerusalem in.................Israel, not Australia..............it is futile for you to twist and pervert the Scriptures of YHWH, the Prophets you quote, out of context, are YHWHs Prophets, they speak of Israel..........NOT Australia..................suzi/lily.....you remain p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c......Analysis of Daniel 11:2-35

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves." thumbs up The vision in Daniel 11:2-35 is set in the third year of the Persian King Cyrus the Great (ca. 536 B.C.). The Greek conqueror Alexander the Great is briefly mentioned in Daniel 11:2 as a "warrior king," and the fourfold division of his empire is referred to in Daniel 11:3. Daniel 11:5-20 describes the wars between the Ptolemiac and Seleucid Empires. Daniel 11:21-35 is devoted to Antiochus Epiphanes, his rise to power, attacks on Egypt, and subsequent persecution of the Jews. The reader should particularly note the increased attention given to detail as the vision focuses on the second century B.C. and the tyranny of Antiochus. . thumbs up rolf lmao
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Suzi, you remain a Bullshit Artist........... thumbs up

Daniel 11 fits the history of the Seleucids and Ptolemies like a pair of tailor-made gloves."


Some insightful Bible students noticed, the proof lies in the obvious identity that exists between Daniel's "the king of the north" in the last days and Ezekiel's "Gog" of the latter days. By comparing what is said about each of them in the two prophecies, it is manifest that they can only be different titles for the same being.

Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 = Daniel 11:45

Their geographical position is the same. "Gog's" country is in the north part in relation to the Holy Land; as it is written, "Thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts". "Gog" is therefore "the king of the north", his place or country being there.

Both of them are adversaries of Israel and invaders of the Holy Land. The eleventh chapter of Daniel abundantly proves this in relation to "the king of the north"; and of "Gog", Yahoueh said: "Thou shalt come up against my people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land".
The time they invade the land is the same. "The king of the north" invades in the last days. Of "Gog" it is said: "It shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land".
The same peoples are named as components of their armies. The Libyans and Ethiopians are allies with "the king of the north"; and in the enumeration of Gog's forces, it says, "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them".
Who is "Gog"? Which land is the land of "Magog"?
Some people think that "Gog" is the Devil. But does the context support this idea? Ezekiel wrote that after "Gog's" last attack he will fall and then be buried by the people. (Ez.39:4,11) So there is no need to prove that "Gog" represents the Devil as we know that the devil does not have a body of flesh and bone and has no need for a grave. Thus, in actuality, whom does "Gog" symbolize?

"Gog" is the chief prince of Meschech and Tubal. Meshech, the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2) is the founder of a tribe (1 Chronicles 1:5; Ezekiel 27:13; 38:2,3). They were in all probability the Moschi people, inhabiting the Moschian Mountains, between the Black and the Caspian Seas. In Psalms 120:5 the name occurs simply as a synonym for foreigners or barbarians. "During the ascendancy of the Babylonians and Persians in Western Asia, the Moschi were subdued; but it seems probable that a large number of them crossed the Caucasus range and spread over the northern steppes, mingling with the Scythians. There they became known as Muscovs and gave this name to the Russian nation and its ancient capital by which they are still generally known throughout the East" (Easton's Bible Dictionary).

Many ancient sources have clearly identified "Magog" as referring to the "Scythians".
One of the earliest references to Magog was made by Hesiod, "the father of Greek didactic poetry" who identified Magog with the Scythians and southern Russia in the 7th century B.C. Hesiod was a contemporary of Ezekiel.

Josephus Flavius clearly identified Magog. "Magog founded the Magogians, thus named after him, but who were by the Greeks called Scythians". (Josephus, Antiquities, 1.123; Jerome, Commentary on Ezekiel 38:2)

The Greek historian Herodotus wrote that in the fifth century B.C. the Scythians ruled from the Don River, in present southern Russia, to the Carpathian Mountains in central Europe.

Philo, is another historian in the first century A.D. who identified "Magog" with southern Russia.

Ancient authorities clearly identified the Scythians as the ancestors of the present day Russians.

However, even without that information, the identity of "Magog" is not too difficult to figure out. In Ezekiel 38:15, it says: "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee". The "north parts" is literally the "extreme, or uttermost" parts of the north.

Who are "the kings of the north" and "south"? Who are the "kings" of this chapter?

Daniel 11:2
Since the Prophecy was given in the third year of Cyrus (Daniel 10:1), the three kings that were to "stand up yet", that is, "after him", were Cambyses II, Smerdis the Magian imposter, Darius I Hystaspes.

The fourth king, Xerxes I, stirred up Persia against Greece, which he invaded in 480 B.C. but failed to conquer. Since prophecy touches only upon important events and characters, the remaining kings of Persia are omitted, and the prophecy jumps over nearly 150 years to the time of Alexander the Great 336-323 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:3,4
"A valiant king", Alexander the Great, whose kingdom after his death was divided into four parts.
1) Seleucus I - who began the Seleucid (Syrian) empire, from Turkey to India.
2) Cassander - who took over Macedonia (Greece).
3) Lysimachus - who took Thracia (between Greece and Turkey).
4) Ptolemy I - who ruled over Egypt.

Daniel 11:5
After the death of Alexander the Great in 323 B.C., the throne of Egypt fell to Ptolemy I Soter, the son of Lagus, the king of the south.
"One of his princes", Seleucus I, Nicator ["the king of the north"] also rose to power, and took over the region of Syria. He eventually became more powerful than his former Egyptian ruler.

Daniel 11:6
"The daughter of the king of the south" = Berenice II, daughter of Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus II Theos.
Two years after the marriage, Berenice's father (Ptolemy Philadelphus) died.
Antiochus restored Laodice and put away Berenice.
He was then poisoned by Laodice.
Berenice fled with her children to Daphne where she was killed.

Daniel 11:7-9
A "branch of her roots" will come with an army. This was Berenice's brother, Ptolemy III Euregetes, "the king of the south".
"The king of the north" is Seleucus II Kallinikos, son of Laodice who was defeated in a later invasion of Egypt. He lost most of Asia Minor along with losing to the military expansion of Ptolemy III who put his mother, Laodice, to death.
Verse 9: "And [the king of the north] will enter into the kingdom of the king of the south, but will return to his own land". (literal translation)
Seleucus II, son of the deceased Laodice, sought revenge for the vengeance taken by Ptolemy III. "Justin says that he fitted out a great fleet, which was destroyed by a violent storm; and after this he raised a great army to recover his dominion, but was defeated by Ptolemy, and fled in great terror and trembling to Antioch" (Gill's Commentary).

Daniel 11:10-12
His ["the king of the north"] sons = Seleucus III Ceraunus and Antiochus III the Great.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III, the Great.
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy IV Philopator.
Ptolemy IV defeated the much larger army of Antiochus III at the Battle of Raphia in 217.

Daniel 11:13-17
"The king of the south" = Ptolemy V Epiphanes.
"The king of the north" = Antiochus III.
Antiochus III gives his daughter Cleopatra I to Ptolemy V, in hopes of permanent influence in Egypt.
Verse 14a: "And in those times many will rise against the king of the south".
At this time, many of the Egyptians began rebelling against the ruling Grecian family and began rioting and defying them.

Verse 14b: "And the sons of the violent ones of your people shall rise up to establish the vision, but they shall stumble". (LIT)
This verse speaks of the violent sons of Daniel's nation. Many commentators suggest that these people will stand up against the king of the south, but this text foretells that these people will lift themselves up to establish the vision. They were called a violent people by Ezekiel who in this way described them as shedders of blood. (18:10a) The word vision [in Aramaic chezev; in Hebrew chazown] is used in the Book of Daniel e.g. in: 7:1,2,7,13,15; 8:1,2,13,15,17,26; 9:24; 10:14; 11:14. All of these visions prophecy of the future persecution of God's nation, that would be fulfilled in the distant future. (Daniel 8:17; 10:14)
What kind of violent people would lift themselves in the ancient time, to fulfill the inspired visions and prophecies before their time? The First Book of the Maccabees clearly indicates the Maccabees as being these violent people. (1:54; 6:7) Until now, many commentators believe that the Maccabees fulfilled the prophecies of the Book of Daniel. But Jesus said that the vision which concerns the abomination of desolation and the persecutions of God's nation will be fulfilled in the future. (Compare Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:1-Cool

Verse 11:16b "and he standeth in the desirable land, and it is wholly in his hand". (YLT)
After one hundred years, Palestine again changed hands. The Seleucid king, Antiochus III, took control of Palestine c. 200 B.C.E.

Daniel 11:18
Antioch III against the Roman Empire.
"Ruler" = Lucius Cornelius, the Roman general.
The Romans humbled him (191) at Thermopylae and again at Magnesia (190).

Daniel 11:19a
Subsequently, Antiochus was forced to campaign within his own lands to stop his satraps from declaring themselves independent rulers.

Daniel 11:19b
"He shall stumble and fall, and shall not be found" = end of the period of greatness for the Seleucid Empire. (Compare Revelation 18:21; Jeremiah 51:64)

Daniel 11:20
"And stood up on his station hath one causing an exactor to pass over the honour of the kingdom, and in a few days he is destroyed, and not in anger, nor in battle". (YLT)

"The king of the north" = Caesar Augustus. The first Roman emperor.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

In 2 B.C., Augustus sent out "an exactor" by ordering a registration, or census, most likely to learn the size of the population for purposes of taxation and military conscription. Because of this decree, Joseph and Mary traveled to Bethlehem for registration, resulting in Jesus' birth at that foretold location. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1-12)

Daniel didn’t prophecy that "the king of the north" would die "after a few days" from this event, but would die in the undetermined future "after a few days". In the end of July, in the year 14 A.D., August left Rome. He took a vacation in his old age and health. On the 19th of August, after a short sickness, he "passed away peacefully, not feeling any pain". While traveling in Campania, Augustus died "in a few days", neither "in anger" at an assassin's hands nor "in warfare", but after a short illness.

Many say that "the king of the north" is Seleucus IV Philopater, who sent out his finance minister, Heliodorus to collect taxes. But Seleucus was murdered in a conspiracy engineered by Heliodorus. It is said that the king here was to however die a natural death (not one of anger or of battle). Therefore, this writing does not conform to Seleucus IV. Also, verse 21 cannot carry over to the rule of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

Daniel 11:21-23
Verse 21: "And in his place shall arise a despised. And they will not give him the royal majesty. He will come in a time of peace and will seize the kingdom through duplicity".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius 14-37.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

"The ruler of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua].

Augustus only chose him after more favored heirs had died.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says, Tiberius played politics with the Senate and did not allow it to name him emperor for almost a month [after Augustus died]". He told the Senate that no one but Augustus was capable of carrying the burden of ruling the Roman Empire and asked the senators to restore the republic by entrusting such authority to a group of men rather than to one man. "Not daring to take him at his word", wrote historian Will Durant, "the Senate exchanged bows with him until at last he accepted power". Durant added: "The play was well acted on both sides. Tiberius wanted the principate, or he would have found some way to evade it; the Senate feared and hated him, but shrank from reestablishing a republic based, like the old, upon theoretically sovereign assemblies". Thus, Tiberius took hold of the kingdom by means of duplicity.

Verse 22: "And the arms of the flood shall be swept from before his face, and they will be broken, and also the ruler of a covenant".

In 15 A.D., Germanicus led his forces against the German hero Arminius, with some success. However, the limited victories were won at great cost, and Tiberius thereafter aborted operations in Germany. Instead, by promoting civil war, he tried to prevent German tribes from uniting. Tiberius generally favoured a defensive foreign policy and focused on strengthening the frontiers. This stance was fairly successful. In this way "the arms of the flood" were controlled and were "broken".
"Broken" too was "the Leader of the covenant" = Jesus [Yeshua]. (Compare Isaiah 55:4; Daniel 9:25, 27a)

Verse 23: "And after they join themselves to him, he will do guile, and he will exalt himself, and will do strong by a few of the people".

The oath of loyalty bound the army and officials to the Tiberius.
"Sextus Pompeius and Sextus Apuleius, the consuls, were the first to swear allegiance to Tiberius Caesar, and in their presence the oath was taken by Seius Strabo and Caius Turranius, respectively the commander of the praetorian cohorts and the superintendent of the corn supplies. Then the Senate, the soldiers and the people did the same".
Those few people were the Roman Praetorian Guard, encamped close to Rome's walls. Its proximity intimidated the Senate and helped Tiberius keep in check any uprisings against his authority among the populace. By means of some 10.000 guards Tiberius remained mighty.

Daniel 11:24
"In a time of peace he will come against [sense: will attack] the fattest [sense: mighty] of the land, and he will do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers: prey, and spoil, and substance, their possession he will distribute. And against strongholds he will devise his schemes until the appointed time".

"The king of the north" = Tiberius and next emperors.
"The king of the south" not on the scene.

The word "mashman" refers here to fattest [sense: mighty]. (Compare Ps.78:31 and Is.10:16)
Because he was very suspicious, Emperor Tiberius, extended the law of laesa majestas. Many senators were put to death on a charge of treason against the emperor. For the people of the provinces, it was a peaceful and well-ordered time.

Daniel 11:25,26a
Aurelian (270-275) against Queen Zenobia of Palmyra ["the king of the south"].

The Palmyrene army occupied Egypt in 269 B.C.E. under the pretext of making it secure for Rome. Zenobia wanted to make Palmyra the dominant city in the east and wanted to rule over Rome's eastern provinces. Alarmed by her ambition, Aurelian aroused "his power and his heart" to proceed against Zenobia.
Zenobia valiantly defended it, but without success. She and her son fled toward Persia, only to be captured by the Romans at the Euphrates River. The Palmyrenes surrendered their city in 272 B.C. Aurelian spared Zenobia, making her the prize feature in his triumphal procession through Rome in 274 B.C. She spent the rest of her life as a Roman matron.
Aurelian himself 'did not stand because of schemes against him.' In 275 B.C., he set out on an expedition against the Persians. While he was waiting in Thrace for the opportunity to cross the straits into Asia Minor, those who 'ate his food' carried out schemes against him and brought about his "breakdown". He was going to call his secretary Eros to account for irregularities. Eros, however, forged a list of names of certain officers marked for death. The sight of this list moved the officers to plot Aurelian's assassination and to murder him.

Daniel 11:26b. (Compare Daniel 9:26b)
"and his army will be flooded and many will fall down slain".

Decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

"The strength of Aurelian had crushed on every side the enemies of Rome. After his death they seemed to revive with an increase of fury and of numbers".

Daniel 11:27
"And both these kings, their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie. But it will not succeed, for yet (the) finish to (the) appointed time." (11:27, literal translation)
It certainly suggests that the verse does not concern to the ancient times. It describes the end of times right before the appointed time. (Compare Daniel 11:29a)

Russia and England (from second half of the XIX Century).

Egyptian history dates back to about 4000 B.C., when the kingdoms of upper and lower Egypt, already highly sophisticated, were united. Egypt's golden age coincided with the 18th and 19th dynasties (16th to 13th century B.C.), during which the empire was established. Persia conquered Egypt in 525 B.C.E, Alexander the Great subdued it in 332 B.C.E., and then the Ptolemaic dynasty ruled the land until 30 B.C., when Cleopatra, last of the line, committed suicide and Egypt became a Roman, then Byzantine, province. Arab caliphs ruled Egypt from 641 until 1517, when the Turks took it for their Ottoman Empire. Napoléon's armies occupied the country from 1798 to 1801. In 1805, Mohammed Ali, leader of a band of Albanian soldiers, became pasha of Egypt. After completion of the Suez Canal in 1869, the French and British took increasing interest in Egypt. British troops occupied Egypt in 1882, and British resident agents became its actual administrators, though it remained under nominal Turkish sovereignty. In 1914, this fiction was ended, and Egypt became a protectorate of Britain.
Russia grew expanding its power over huge regions, and by the end of XIX century Russia possessed territories from the mouths of the Danube and Visla in the west, reached the Pacific Ocean in the east, began in the Euroasian tundra in the north and had borders with Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and China in the south.

In 1907, an Anglo-Russian agreement divided Persia into English and Russian spheres of influence, a large Russian sphere in the north, covering the most valuable part of the country, a neutral sphere in the centre, and a smaller British sphere in the southeast.

Daniel 11:28
"And (he) ["the king of the north"] will go back (to) his land with great wealth; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant; and will act effectively; and turned back to his own land." (literal translation)

History of Russia after World War II.

The passage contains enough details, which allow for a correct interpretation.

Daniel foretells here that "the king of the north" [Russia] will not only be successful in WW II, but also that he returns to his land with a great amount of goods. If only Hitler had listened to Mussolini and the Japanese, who in 1943 advised him to stop military actions, the prophetic detail would have never been fulfilled.

Daniel 11:28b
"and turned back to his own land".

The break-up of the Soviet Union and return to the country of Russian garrisons (the liquidation of Russian military bases).

The prophecy of Daniel 11 is the key to understanding what is going to happen in the future.

The latter statements Jesus' and Daniel's are alike.


Matthew 24:5,6 (Luke 21:8,9) = Daniel 11:27,28 = XIX, XX, XXI Century, before the World War III

"Many for will come in the name of me, saying: 'I am the anointed'; and many they will mislead." (Matthew 24:5, literal translation)

"He said, 'Watch out that you don't get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, 'I AM,' and, 'The time is at hand.' Therefore don't follow them." (Luke 21:8, WEB)

"Don't be afraid when you hear of wars and revolutions; such things must happen first, but they do not mean that the end is near." (Luke 21:9, GNB)

Matthew 24:7 = Daniel 11:29,30 = WW III

Matthew 24:15 = Daniel 11:31 = "trampling of Jerusalem" [the great tribulation of Christian minorities; compare Revelation 11]

Matthew 24:29 = Daniel 11:40 = WW IV

Daniel 11:29a
"At (the) appointed time (he) will return, and will enter into (the) south."

1. Russian troops will be station abroad again.
2. "The king of the north" will come into the South.

Daniel 11:29b,30
"But will not be as (the) former or as (the) latter. For will come against him (the) dwellers of coastlands of Kittim, and (he) will be humbled, and will return." (literal translation)

1. The West will come against the Russia.
2. "The king of the north" will be humbled, and will return.
(Compare Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4)

Daniel 11:31
1. The nations will trample "the holy city" [of those who belong to Christ] forty-two months. (Compare Revelation 11:2,7; 13:5,7a; Luke 21:24b; Matthew 24:21,22; Daniel 7:25; 9:27; Isaiah 29:1-8,20-24; Matthew 13:40-43,49,50; Ezekiel 13:8-16,20-23; 34:10; 2Thessalonians 2:8b; Isaiah 28:1-4,17-22; 6:13; Malachi 3:1-5)

The religious organizations from among Christian minorities which Jesus compared to "the weeds", will be "burned". (Mt.13:30) Yahoueh will protect the righteous ones. (Re.11:1) "The wheat" will be put into "the storehouse" after the tribulation – which means that "the sons of the kingdom" will become gathered and unified at that time. They will shine as brightly as the sun after the tribulation.

2. "The abomination of desolation" [the World Government] will be set up. (Revelation 13:7b; Daniel 12:11)

Daniel 11:32-35
Details of their future global religious persecution. (Compare Daniel 8:11,12; Revelation 6:9-11; 12:15)

Daniel 11:36-39
Russia before the World War IV. (Compare Ezekiel 38:7)

Daniel 11:40
The World War IV. (Compare Luke 21:25; Isaiah 5:26-30; Matthew 24:29; Daniel 7:11; Revelation 13:3; Ezekiel 32:2-16; Habakkuk 1:5-17; Revelation 6:12; Zephaniah 1:14-18; Joel 2:1-11,31, ASV)

Daniel 11:41
Occupation of Israel. (Compare Ezekiel 39:23-29)

Daniel 11:42,43
The triumph of Russia. (Compare Isaiah 10:12-15)

Daniel 11:44,45
Russia again will attack Israel. (Compare Daniel 12:1; Joel 2:20; Isaiah 14:4-27; Habakkuk 3:3-16)

"Many will study, therefore understanding will be multiplied". (Daniel 12:4b)



What is the Bible's scenario?
1. Russian troops station abroad again. (Daniel 11:29a)

2. "The king of the north" becomes very aggressive and enters into the south. (Daniel 11:29a)

3. The West opposes Russia. (Daniel 11:30; Matthew 24:7a; Revelation 6:4)

4. "The king of the north" is humiliated, and turns back. (Daniel 11:30). He does not make the same mistake as Hitler did, he does not fight to the death and this is why Russia is not occupied.

5. The World Government appears after that war which replaces the ineffective UN. Its power gradually rises. (Revelation 13:1,2,7b; Daniel 11:31b)

6. Russia rebuilds its military power very fast and acts effectively on the world scene. (Daniel 11:30b)

7. "Russia’s rulers pay attention to those "who forsake the holy covenant". (Daniel 11:30b)

8. A man "of fierce countenance, and understanding ambiguous sayings" becomes the president of the USA, and he begins to fight with Christian minorities. (Daniel 8:23-25)

9. There is a tribulation of "Jerusalem" = it is a tribulation of Christian minorities, which lasts 42 month’s. (Daniel 11:31a; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:5-7a; Matthew 13:40-42,49,50; 24:48-51)

The Christian communities, which are now called sects, are decimated. It is the biggest genocide concerning religion in history. The eyes of people who were deceived by them will be opened. (Isaiah 6:9-13)

The "tyrant", according to LXX “lawless” = the rulers of Christian minorities will be removed. (Isaiah 29:1-8,20,21) Ezekiel calls them "women". (Ezekiel 13:17-23; Revelation 14:4a; Isaiah 3:12) Paul names them "the man of lawlessness". (2 Thessalonians 2:4,8b)

10. Immediately after the tribulation of those days "the abomination of desolation", in other words the World Government will be set up [will given authority; Revelation 13]. (Daniel 11:31b; 12:11) The Book of Revelation calls it a "beast". (11:7; 13:1,2,7,Cool

11. The spirit is poured out upon people who belong to Jesus. (Revelation 11:11-13) The "wheat" = the sons of kingdom, will be gathered into the "storehouse" after burning the "weeds" = organized Christian churches which earlier posed as the churches of Christ. (Matthew 13:30b; Eph.1:9,10) And then Jesus will set up a "faithful slave" over his whole possession. (Matthew 24:45-47)

12. The seven trumpets start to sound. Those who belong to Jesus are revealing future events to the World. They will also try to explain what God thinks of certain issues. (Revelation 8:6-10:11)

13. The power in Russia will be taken over by a dictator who is atheist. The military power will be his god. (Daniel 11:36-39)

14. Not longer after that, there will be the WWIV. That time Russia will triumph the same as it did after the WWII. (Daniel 11:40; Daniel 7:11; Luke 21:25; Revelation 13:3a). "The king of the north" will act as a "God’s hammer" ravaging many countries like Babylon in ancient times. (Jeremiah 51:20,25)

15. Russia occupies Israel as well. (Daniel 11:41)

16. After that war the World Government is resuscitated. The "purple beast" will be given even more power. The politicians will relinquish their sovereignty in favor of the beast. (Revelation 13:14; 17:8,17)

17. Attack on "Babylon the Great" = big, apostatized churches, drunk with blood of innocent people, which betrayed God and Jesus by co-operating with kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:16)

18. Next, nations see the sign of the Son of man (Matthew 24:30). Probably it will be connected with the first resurrection (Revelation 20:6). People who have died in union with Jesus will rise first (among 144.000). They will get a spirit body at the resurrection. (1 Corinthians 15:35,44) What will be the proof of the resurrection? Immediately after that, remaining of 144,000 will be transfigured (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17). Simultaneously they will be caught away from the earth and taken to heaven. The transfigurations of belonging to Jesus dependably will not be seen and it will cause a great expression on nations.

19. The whole nation of Israel is converting and gathering. (Ezekiel 39:25-29; Romans 11:25-32). After taking to heaven belonging to group of 144,000 nation of Israel will be a light for the nations. God will be with them and will pour his spirit over them. (Ezekiel 39:29)

20. Rebuilding of the Temple according to directions given to Ezekiel. (Ezekiel 37:24-28; 43:11)

21. There will be collection of chosen, separation the "sheep from the goats". (Matthew 24:31; 25:31-44; Revelation 14:15,16).

22. "The king of the north" will attack people who worship the true God [Israel] (Ezekiel 38:10-12). "The beast" [the word government] also will take part in this attack. (Revelation 19:19).

23. After Armageddon the power on the world will be taken over by the "new heaven" = the kingdom of God i.e. Jesus and belonging to him. (Daniel 7:27; Matthew 6:10; Revelation 21:1-4) "The old heaven" = imperfect system of authority created by man will go away. Rules and the law created by imperfect people which are captivating and making difficulty will be untied. All activities remaining uncovered, good or bad will be revealed, all crimes will come to light. (2 Peter 3:10; 1 Timothy 5:25).

24. The rest of dead will come to life! The earth will become the paradise. (Acts 24:15; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; 25:8; 35:5-7). When the thousand year’s period of Jesus’ kingdom will end people who come to life during this period are put to the test. And then they will really come to life God’s point of view and then they will get ability to live forever. (Revelation 20:5a,7,8; comp. Luke 15:32; 1 John 3:14).



"Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth will I cause you to hear them". (Isaiah 42:9)

see suzi? you ignore Genesis 10, the Table of Nations and thus pervert and twist scripture to conform to your insanity..which is distorted and deformed..............capiche? thumbs up

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/Ted_Hildebrandt/OTeSources/01-Genesis/Text/Articles-Books/Ross-TableNations-BSac.pdf

The Table of Nations in
Genesis 10--Its Content
Allen P. Ross
The previous article in this series dealt with the structure of
the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1 The deliberate design in its
construction, symmetry, and unity were examined in an effort to
understand its purpose as a tOdl;OT. But in addition to the evi-
deuce from its structure, there is a wealth of information about
the nations of the world that is important for the complete under-
standing of this chapter within the message of Genesis.
The Analysis of the Passage
The heading of the chapter (Gen. 10:1) declares that this is
the record of the particulars of what became of Shem, Ham, and
Japheth after the Flood. The verse serves not only as a heading for
the Table, but also as a literary connection back to Genesis 9:18
and 28. It is to be read with the oracle of Noah in mind!....................The sons of Japheth are seven. Gomer, mentioned also in
Ezekiel 38:6, represents the Cimmerians, thought to be of the
same stock as the Scythians.5 Magog is also mentioned in Ezekiel
(38:2 and 39:6) as the land of Gog, the region between Armenia
and Cappadocia; the name seems to represent the Scythian
hordes southeast of the Black Sea.6
..............
THE SONS OF HAM (10:6-20)
More attention is given to the line of Ham than to that of
Japheth or Shem. Ham's line has four branches: Cush, Mizraim,
Put, and Canaan. All four are probably place names for Nubia-
Egypt, Upper and Lower Egypt, Libya, and Phoenicia-Palestine
respectively. In addition, the descendants of these four are both
places and tribes.
Ham is the ancestor of all these people from Phoenicia to
Africa. The etymology of the word Ham is disputed,18 but it is
used to depict countries in close proximity to Egypt.
Cush is the "eldest son" according to the plan of the Table. In
antiquity this was an independent kingdom on the southern
flank of Egypt; and especially during the reign of Kamose it
served as the backbone of the Egyptian army, helping to expel the
Asiatics (Hyksos).19 So the list begins in the far south with the
African tribes known to the Greeks as Ethiopians.

Mizraim lies to the north of Cush. The word occurs almost
ninety times in the Old Testament for Egypt.
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Post  true lilly on Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:55 am

AURORAS IN THE USA: A coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth on Oct. 24th at approximately 1800 UT (2:00 pm EDT).
The impact strongly compressed Earth's magnetic field, directly exposing
geosynchronous satellites to solar wind plasma, and sparked an intense
geomagnetic storm. As night fell over North America, auroras spilled
across the Canadian border into the contiguous United States.

"Wow, wow, wow! These were the best Northern Lights I've seen since 2004,"
says Shawn Malone, who took this picture from the shores of Lake Superior in Michigan:



"The auroras filled the sky in every direction--even to the south," he says.

Indeed, the display spread all the way down to Arkansas. "When I saw the alert,
I ran outside and immediately saw red auroras," reports Brian Emfinger from the
city of Ozark. "Within a few minutes the auroras went crazy! Unbelievable!"

Auroras were seen or photographed in more than half of all US states including Alabama,
Wisconsin, New Mexico, Tennessee, Missouri, Illinois, Nebraska, Kentucky, North Carolina, Indiana, Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa, Maryland, New York, Montana, Ohio, Colorado,
Pennsylvania, Washington,
Minnesota, Maine, Michigan, Oregon, Arkansas and California. Many
observers, especially in the deep south, commented on the pure red color

of the lights they saw. These rare all-red auroras sometimes appear during intense geomagnetic storms. They occur some 300 to 500 km above Earth's surface and
are not yet fully understood.

The storm is subsiding now.
Nevertheless, high-latitude sky watchers should remain alert for auroras
as Earth's magnetic field continues to reverberate from the CME impact.
Aurora alerts: text,
voice.
Randy Halverson Image taken:Oct. 24, 2011
Location: Cross Plains, WI
Details: On 10-24-2011
the forecast was for storm level Aurora displays. My son and I went out
that night west of Madison, WI to shoot some timelapse and take stills
of them. At one point they were so bright they lit up the ground, it
will be hard to edit the timelapse because they were almost over exposed
at that point. Many more pics on my site.
http://dakotalapse.com/?p=581


...umm...GREEN for GO...dixie dean posts a lot about Thunderbirds...
Thunderbirds Are Go!...and what was dixie dean saying about,
"drawing a line, a RED LINE"...


Tobias Billings
Image taken:Oct. 24, 2011
Location: Independence, MO USA
Details:I stepped out
of the car and almost passed out. The pillars of light were amazing! I'm
used to a constant glow from the city lights during the evenings, but
could tell that this was something that couldn't man-made.


Steve Yezek
Image taken: Oct. 24, 2011
Location: Rock Falls, Iowa, USA
Details: These were some of the brightest and deepest colors I've seen in many years
over Northern Iowa. They were taken about 15 miles northeast of Mason City
near Rock Falls Iowa. 1600 ASA, between 5-15sec exposure. Tonights show
was awesome. These were taken around 9pm CDT.. By the way no editing was
done to any of these photos...
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Post  Ciggy on Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:23 am

Shut the hell up about the USA.
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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:15 am


The crowd cheers Cristophe Lemaire
after he rode Dunaden to a win at the Melbourne Cup.

Photo: Jason South



So close ... Dunaden just edges ahead of Red Cadeaux.


Click for more photos

Melbourne Cup 2011

Cristophe Lemaire rides Dunaden to a win at the Melbourne Cup.

Photo: Jason South

Trainer:
Mikel Delzangles

Owner:
Sheik Fahad al Thani
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/horseracing/dunaden-wins-melbourne-cup-after-heartstopping-photo-finish-20111101-1mt5j.html#ixzz1cQeeTVj1

...I wonder if you can get a transcript of the speeches given at the presentation...

...btw, they made a point of explaining that,
if it were not for latest, wizz bang, DIGITAL photo finish equipment,
it would have been a Dead Heat...
...I didn't see what was so clear, on second and third views,
as I was too taken by Dunaden having the same racing style
as my dear old Brumby, Stardust (Star), who also worked as
a track horse for my first employer in Thoroughbred Racing.

Oh, and, this was The Gentle Man I first worked for in
The Sport of Kings...




George Hanlon
1917 - 2010

George Hanlon was one of the oldest active licensed trainers in Australia
until his passing on 28 January 2010.

In a career spanning more than 50 years he built up a formidable
reputation training the winners of most of the nation's feature events.

His wins included three Melbourne Cups
(Piping Lane, Arwon and Black Knight),

a Caulfield Cup, a Brisbane Cup, an Australian Cup,
Cox Plate, an AJC Derby and a Doncaster
as well as four Adelaide Cups.

At the age of 83 he trained Mr Prudent to win the Sydney Cup.

Hanlon was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2002.


Multiple Melbourne Cup-winning trainer
George Hanlon dies in Geelong

by:Matt Stewart

From:Herald Sun

January 29, 2010
12:00AM

25 comments


George Hanlon and his Melbourne Cup horse Arwon (background) in 2005.
Picture: Craig Borrow Herald Sun


Trainer George Hanlon kisses the Caulfield Cup,
won by Diatribe in 2000.

Picture: Terry Phelan HWT Image Library

GEORGE Hanlon received the ultimate accolade today when his peers
rated him one of the greatest trainers of the past half-century.

Fellow trainers declared the Australian Racing Hall of Famer, who
died yesterday in Geelong aged 92, one of the icons of the sport.

What are your favourite George Hanlon moments? Leave your tribute below


"He was probably not far behind Bart Cummings. He just didn't have the
charisma of Bart," Australian Trainers' Association president Colin Alderson said.

Hall of Fame trainer John Hawkes said
Hanlon was a "super trainer, one of the all-time greats".


Some years ago trainer Robert Smerdon assessed Hanlon's standing.

"His success in the 1970s and 1980s was amazing. He was competing with the
likes of (Colin) Hayes, (Tommy) Smith and Cummings with only a fraction
of the horses they had and beating them,"
he said.

From horse cart to horse trainer
George Hanlon dies

Hanlon the 'trainer's trainer'

John Letts: My course of dreams Adelaide Now, 2 days ago

Internationals give World Cup flavour The Australian, 15 Oct 2011

My 10 top Caulfield Cup winners Herald Sun, 14 Oct 2011

German raider set to run despite scare The Australian, 13 Oct 2011

Moody and his leading lady Herald Sun, 7 Oct 2011


"In terms of his success with what he had, he could even rate above them.
That's how good he was."


In 65 years as a trainer Hanlon built an amazing record. Even at the age
of 85, he trained a Melbourne Cup placegetter: eight-year-old Mr
Prudent, who finished second to Media Puzzle in 2002.


In 2000 he trained Diatribe to win the Caulfield Cup, fulfilling a lifelong
ambition as the race had been a hoodoo event for him.


He had finished second three times, with Arwon ('78), Our Sophia ('85) and Congressman ('88).

Just to make it a George Hanlon moment, he fell down some steps before the
Caulfield Cup and famously received the trophy with his head bandaged.

Few trainers can boast a record like Hanlon's - 37 Group 1s and 100 stakes wins.

His
wins include three Melbourne Cups (Piping Lane 1972, Arwon 1978 and
Black Knight 1984); Caulfield Cup (Diatribe 2000); Cox Plate (Family Of
Man 1977
); two Newmarket Handicaps (Correct 1960-61); AJC Derby (Taras
Bulba 1974
),
Sydney Cup (Mr Prudent 2001); Doncaster Handicap (Lawman
1981
); Australian Cup (Kip 1982) and four Adelaide Cups (Gnapur 1969,
Amarant 1983, Our Pompeii 1993-94
).

When he trained his first winner, Lourdes, at Port Pirie in 1946,
Hanlon could not envisage what was to follow.

In an interview in 2004, Hanlon said: "I didn't know the success I would
have back then. I've had a lot of luck. It's a great game to be in. I've
enjoyed every moment."

Hanlon's training adventure began in South Australia in the wine growing district of McLarenvale.

"My brother Fred was having a bit of success with trotters. He trained a
champion called Adrian Derby. That's where I got the horse bug from," he said.

Hanlon said those early days were important in forming his racing philosophies.

"We trained around a lot of dairy farms. There was plenty of grass about.
I learnt a lot about feeding."

Hanlon moved to Melbourne in the late 1940s, taking up stables at Mordialloc.

It was in the 1960s he started to make his mark on racing.

Leading the charge was the dual Newmarket Handicap winner, Correct.

In 1965 Hanlon saddled up Matloch in the Melbourne Cup, one of three
runners he had in the race. Two of his runners fell, including Matloch,
who was second favourite.

He eventually saddled up 49 starters in the race that stops a nation.

It was a tough introduction to the Cup but it became a race he conquered.

Hanlon trained runner-up Vansittart in 1970 and won two years later with Piping Lane.

He also finished second with Noble Comment in 1984 and with Mr Prudent in 2002.

Hanlon was immensely proud of his Leopold training base, a property he turned
from a cow paddock into a first-class training establishment.

He bought the 20-hectare property in the mid-'70s and moved there
from his Epsom training base in the mid-'80s.

The property had everything Hanlon wanted, hills on which to work his horses
and the soil was sandy and dried quickly.

To see Hanlon in action on the property was a memorable racing moment.

He followed the horses in his jeep, monitoring their gallops
and shouting orders at the track riders.

He also had nearby Black Rock beach on which to work his horses.

Despite having had an array of top-line gallopers, Hanlon did have his favourites.

"Lourdes would have to be my favourite horse, giving me my kick-off," he said.

Other favourites were Royal Snack, who won four consecutive Moe Cups from 1993 to 1996, and Cox Plate winner Family Of Man.

Making the trip with Hanlon to Leopold in the mid-'80s was another of his
favourites, the retired Arwon, who lived on the property until he died
aged 33.


For those who knew him, Hanlon appeared to walk the fine line between an eccentric and genius.

His move to Leopold also coincided with my introduction to journalism with the Geelong Advertiser. I was told by fellow racing writers not to bother with Hanlon as he was notoriously unco-operative.

But he proved the exact opposite. For the next decade I would spend many
mornings in his jeep watching his horses work as he barked orders to his riders.

I would also meet him at nearby Black Rock and watch his horses work on the beach.

Often I would leave without a question being answered. In fact, many mornings he spent more time asking me questions. Wink


All the time he kept his eyes on the horses like a hawk, knowing precisely
what each horse should be doing.

When a jockey was working a horse too fast, Hanlon would start yelling.

Many mornings would be spent listening to his thoughts on the state of the racing industry.

Jockeys, whom he described as a "different breed", and bloodstock agents, whom
he called "parasites", would be high on the agenda most mornings.

Former Herald Sun journalist Trevor Grant prised some more gems from Hanlon.

Losing: "I hate getting beat. Anyone who's a good loser is a loser and he'll stay a loser. You've got to hate getting beat."

Training: "If you are relaxed yourself when making a decision, you will make a
better decision. I've tried to get horses that way."


Phar Lap:
"When they complain these days about the travel horses have to do, I
often think about Phar Lap. He went to America on a boat for six weeks.

"All he could do was stand and have a roll.
And he got off the boat and treated them all like second-raters."

___________________________________


If it wasn't for Bart Cummings,
George Hanlon might well have been known as the ''Cups King'',

for the Melbourne Cup was the race he lived for,
saddling a remarkable 49 runners in it.


Cummings' Melbourne Cup tally rose to 81 starters last spring yet,
despite rarely having any more than 20 horses in his stable
at one time, Hanlon only failed to saddle a Melbourne Cup runner 13
times from his first starter, Correct (12th) in 1961, to his last
runner, Mr Prudent (12th) in 2003.


Hanlon's second win came in 1978 in the form of Arwon,
who was named (backwards) after Nowra,
the home of the Melbourne Cup's first winner, Archer.

Arwon began his career as Flash Guy in New Zealand and was
famously knocked back by trainer Tommy Smith when he came to Australia.
Hanlon took him on and turned him into a top stayer.


His final Melbourne Cup win came in 1984 with
the Robert Holmes a Court-bred- and owned- Black Knight.

Yet, despite his victories in the great race, some of Hanlon's greatest training feats were his defeats. In less than 12 months, for example,
he turned noted slow coach Vansittart into the 1970 Melbourne Cup runner-up.


Noble Comment was another plodder but Hanlon almost won
two Cups with him.
It took Gurner's Lane and Kingston Town to defeat him
in 1982 and only Kiwi's famous finish denied him in 1983.

As with Cummings, Hanlon was noted for his dry and often confusing
one-liners.
Wink After Congressman was nosed out in the 1988 Caulfield Cup by
50-1 chance Imposera, Hanlon famously said: ''I don't mind losing;
I just hate getting beaten.''

His most quoted line, however, is that ''horses are only human''.

After Arwon was narrowly beaten by Taksan in the 1978 Caulfield Cup,
Hanlon was told he could still win the Melbourne Cup, to which he replied:
''An egg in the frying pan is worth two birds in the air.''

Cummings once described Hanlon as
his ''greatest opponent in distance races''.



Arwon, pictured in retirement,
always had a special place in George Hanlon's heart.

Photo: Vince Caligiuri

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/hanlon-one-of-the-turfs-true-legends-20100128-n1sx.html#ixzz1cRmSdYNC
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And I will add, that George insisted on a peaceful environment around his horses,
but if he 'barked', at you, you, were doing harmful wrong, and you, damn well needed barking at.
I never got barked at by George. Quite the contrary. That "different breed" got more than barked at, over the way I was treated.

So
can some of you understand now, that it's not that I'm thick skinned,
or don't consider the opinion of others, that keeps me standing against
the abuse I receive. It's because the opinions of those rare people who
possess the wisdom and quality of character of the likes of George
Hanlon, are the opinions that matter, and that I do take heed of.


Yes, it was a great blessing to have had a man like George to look up to. Very Happy
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Post  MoMo on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:42 am

Bullshit lilly, I've countered every one of your false arguments, you have never replied. Define Zion....Mizraim.....Torah.........Israel..........you attack the jews, the Torah and Israel, you quote scripture like satan to distort and deform it to fit YOUR agenda....... thumbs up


......................For those who falsely claim that Yahshua Messiah/Jesus 'Did away with' the Torah/Laws of YHWH, I challenge you to explain these verses of Scripture.

http://www.eliyah.com/thescriptures/

Matthew 4
1 Then Yahshua was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.

2 And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.

3 And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the set- apart city, set Him on the edge of the Set- apart Place,

6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, throw Yourself down. For it has been written, ‘He shall command His messengers concerning you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, so that you do not dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Yahshua said to him, “It has also been written, ‘You shall not try YHWH your Elohim.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on a very high mountain, and showed Him all the reigns of the world, and their esteem,

9 and said to Him, “All these I shall give You if You fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Yahshua said to him, “Go, Satan! For it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and Him alone you shall serve.’



Yahshua cites Torah 3 Times with Authority....beaware of the False Teachers.

Is the New Testament Yahweh's Word?

Don't Accept The New Testament As Yahweh's Word On The Basis Of Human Tradition

http://www.serveyahweh.org/Religion/newtestament.htm

In the context of the New Testament canon Yahweh's people should not accept that the New Testament is Yahweh's word simply on the basis of human tradition. For Yah'shuah has shown that human tradition is NOT the basis for determining true worship. The New Testament, or any portion of it, should only be accepted as Yahweh's word only where it is fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment. But if it, or any portion of it, is not fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment it cannot and should not be accepted as Yahweh's word or commandment!



Live By Every Word That Proceeds Out Of Yahweh's Mouth
Matthew 4:4 reads,

4:4But he answered, "It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’"

In these comments Yah'shuah quoted from Moses' words to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 8:3,

8:3He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn’t know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh does man live.



Truth Is Yahweh's Word

John 17:17 reads,

17:17Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.

It is therefore clear from Yah'shuah's words that human beings are to live by every word proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh. He also defines truth as Yahweh's word. Therefore living by the truth is living by Yahweh's word, living by Yahweh's commandment. This is what human beings are to live by, and not by human tradition, especially human tradition contrary to Yahweh's word.



To Believe Yah'shuah/Jesus You Must Believe Moses' Writings
John 5:46-47 reads,

5:46For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote about me. 5:47But if you don’t believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

Yah'shuah's words show that it is necessary for one to believe Moses' writings in order to believe him. In other words, those who believe Moses' writings are the ones who believe Yah'shuah, and those who do not believe Moses' writings are the one who do not believe Yah'shuah. Yah'shuah therefore implicitly affirmed that Moses' writings are indeed Yahweh's word.



Yah'shuah Didn't Destroy The Law Or The Prophets

Matthew 5:17-18 reads,

5:17"Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Yah'shuah therefore affirmed that the law and the prophets, the writings he affirmed as Yahweh's word, would continue in applicability even up to the time of the passing away of heaven and earth. Seeing that heaven and earth are still with us it is indeed the conclusion that nothing has passed away from the law, and it remains in full application.



Yah'shuah Commanded His Disciples To Abide By Moses' Authority

Matthew 23:1-4 reads,

23:1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 23:2saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses’ seat. 23:3All things therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do, but don’t do their works; for they say, and don’t do. 23:4For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.

Yah'shuah commanded human beings, including his disciples, to abide by the authority vested in Moses. In other words, he simply affirmed his word in Matthew 5:17-18, on the continuing applicability of the law or Yahweh's word as delivered by Moses to the children of Israel.



Believe What The Prophets Have Spoken

Luke 24:25-27 reads,

24:25He said to them, "Foolish men, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 24:26Didn’t the Christ have to suffer these things, and to enter into his glory?" 24:27Beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he explained to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

Yah'shuah's usage of the writings of Moses and those of the prophets shows that he acknowledged these as Yahweh's word. For in Matthew 4 and 15 he clearly taught that human beings are to live only by Yahweh's word, and here he was indeed teaching his disciples by the writings of Moses and the prophets. Yah'shuah therefore acknowledged that the writings of Moses and the prophets are indeed Yahweh's word.


Live By The Writings In The Law Of Moses, The Prophets And The Psalms

Luke 24:42-49 reads,

24:42They gave him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 24:43He took it, and ate in front of them. 24:44He said to them, "This is what I told you, while I was still with you, that all things which are written in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me must be fulfilled."

24:45Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures. 24:46He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 24:47and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 24:48You are witnesses of these things. 24:49Behold, I send forth the promise of my Father on you. But wait in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high."

According to Yah'shuah the collection of writings that made up Yahweh's word, what all human beings are to live by, is that called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms - what is today called the Old Testament. This is synonymous with the Scriptures, according to the author of the above words - Luke.



Yah'shuah's Disciples Of All Nations Are To Observe The Things He Personally Commanded His Disciples
Matthew 28:18-20 reads,

28:18Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. 28:19Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 28:20teaching them to observe all things which I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Yah'shuah clearly commanded his disciples to teach new disciples of all nations to observe all things that he had commanded his disciples. He commanded them to live by every word that proceeds out of Yahweh's mouth. He also showed them that Yahweh's word is contained in the writings called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms (writings), now commonly known as the Old Testament. Therefore, the things that Yah'shuah's disciples are to observe are those that are contained in the writings commonly called the Old Testament. For observing the things in these writings is indeed living by words proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh, seeing that words that proceeded out of Yahweh's mouth are contained in these writings.



Yahweh's Word To His Disciples Concerning Verification Of Words

Isaiah 8:16-20 reads,

8:16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 8:17I will wait for Yahweh, who hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 8:18Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Hosts, who dwells in Mount Zion. 8:19When they shall tell you, "Consult with those who have familiar spirits and with the wizards, who chirp and who mutter:" shouldn’t a people consult with their God? On behalf of the living should they consult with the dead? 8:20To the law and to the testimony! If they don’t speak according to this word, surely there is no morning for them.

8:16 clearly shows that the testimony (prophets and writings) and the law (of Moses) should be bound and sealed among Yahweh's disciples. And in matters of light Yahweh's disciples are not to consult with forces of darkness. They are to consult only the law and the testimony. In other words, the very writings that Yah'shuah later used in affirming that he was indeed the Messiah, the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings, are the very same ones that Yahweh commands his disciples to consult. For light is contained in his word, which is recorded in these writings. And anyone speaking contrary to his word in these writings is devoid of light. In other words, any writing that is contrary to the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings is not Yahweh's word, but a word and work of darkness!



Another Test Yahweh Gives His People Concerning Verification Of Words

Deuteronomy 18:9-22 reads,

18:9When you are come into the land which Yahweh your God gives you, you shall not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 18:10There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer, 18:11or a charmer, or a consulter with a familiar spirit, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12For whoever does these things is an abomination to Yahweh: and because of these abominations Yahweh your God does drive them out from before you. 18:13You shall be perfect with Yahweh your God. 18:14For these nations, that you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice sorcery, and to diviners; but as for you, Yahweh your God has not allowed you so to do. 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; 18:16according to all that you desired of Yahweh your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Yahweh my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I not die. 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken. 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. 18:19It shall happen, that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. 18:21If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken? 18:22When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn’t follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.



Don't Listen To Those Who Practice Abominations

Yahweh clearly warned the children of Israel not to listen to those who practice abominations - the practices of darkness as seen in Isaiah 8:16-20. It is on account of both practising these abominations and listening to the practitioners of these abominations that Yahweh cast out of the land of Canaan those who inhabited it prior to the children of Israel
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................The Hebrew Bible, Old and New Testaments inform us that: Life is precious and History is meaningful, unlike David Ickes assertion that life is an Illusion, the Biblical view is more scientifically astute: The World is not AS we perceive it but it is very real. The Bible entrains our 6th Sense so that we may perceive realities beyond the 5 sense world.

The 5 Senses do not detect infrared, ultraviolet, radio waves, x-rays etc..yet they exist. The unaided human eye cannot perceive Atoms, protons, quarks etc.yet they exist......We see the Unity of existence, the ground that sustains being, the interconnexion of ALL Life.

The Creator is 'unseen' yet we learn to see through the surface of reality. We are never alone.

The Torah overcomes the Reptilian/Mammalian Brain Centers. Teaches us to become impeccably honest, to be non-exploitive, loving, altruistic. to be a Shepherd not a Predator.

In Hebraic Thought the whole Function of the Torah is to turn the Soul away from the things of the Flesh. FROM egoistic TO Altruistic. During our life our Soul either attaches itself to the things of Flesh, the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit-The Path of Light, becoming a Child of the Light.

When the False prophets and teachers tell us that Jesus 'did away with the Torah/Instruction/Laws of YHWH'...........they lie, they deceive........they mislead innocents onto the Path of Darkness........rodin; suzi woo woo: you must learn, before you die, to Play the Game Clean. You must learn why deceiving, cheating, exploiting are losing propositions and they harm you more then the people you harm by doing those sordid things.


Great harm is done to our societies as these once recognized undesirable charateristics are now exalted and presented as paradigms for behaviour.....................................The Good Newz is that there IS a Paradigm Shift-We are in a Transit between two Ages......The Age of Production and Accumulation TO the Age of Integrity and Restoration.

"Ahavta yirecha Kamocha"= Love your neighbor as yourself.

In humans the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment. And periodically they scream from the dungeons of their minds demanding their Freedom.

The Biblical Commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and limitations and restrictions on people limiting their Freedom, but rather as a Divine communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing humanbeings how life works and what to do and not to do to make the best of it.

Within the Torah/mitzvot/commandments are all the neccessary instructions for human conduct, in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap benefit from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe.


Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions.
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One of the first things we should learn in our search for the true Savior is His Name. The importance of knowing this Man's Name cannot be overstated. Names were and are very important to the Hebrew people, and their meanings are of great significance, not only to individuals, but also to entire families.

The name Jesus is an invention of man which in no way carries the meaning of the true Name of this Man mentioned in the New Testament. The simple fact (which is easily proven from authoritative sources) is that this man was born a Hebrew and He had a Hebrew name. There is no such name as Jesus in the Hebrew language.

Reading from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 10, page 10, we find that the supposed name Jesus is actually the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.

JESUS (d. 30 c.e.), whom Christianity sees as its founder and object of faith, was a Jew who lived toward the end of the Second Commonwealth period......The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 12, page 805, gives us additional information, concerning the Hebrew spelling of Joshua, which is yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin.


This source also points out to us that this Name, correctly pronounced Yahshua, is a compound name constructed with the Tetragrammaton,which is the Name: YAHWEH, . The Name Yahshua follows the common practice among the true worshippers of Yahweh, in forming and using compound names which brought glory to Yahweh's Name....................The Name Yahshua is just such a compound Name. It is a combination of Yahweh's Name in a personal name (YAH: yod-heh) and SHUA (shin-ayin), which means salvation. The Hebrew-English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver, and Briggs, page 221, tells us that the Name Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. ............The Law of Yahweh, which Yahshua and the apostles preached, plainly tells us that Yahweh is one.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5—
4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is one.
5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. ....................................The prophets further testified that Yahweh is the only source of power and there is no pagan God with Him at all.

Isayah 43:10-12—
10 You are My witnesses, says Yahweh, and My servants whom I have chosen; so you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He! before me there was no God (el) formed, nor will there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and no strange god (el) is among you! Therefore, you are My witnesses, says Yahweh: that I AM YAHWEH!

Isayah 44:8—
Do not fear, nor be afraid. Have I not told you from that time, and have declared; You are My witnesses! Is there a source of power except Me? Truly, there is no other rock; I know not one.

Isayah 45:6,18—
6 So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that There is none besides me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other!
18 For this is what Yahweh, Who created the heavens, Who is the Father, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain, Who formed it to be inhabited, says: I am Yahweh, and there is no other source of power!


It should now be obvious to anyone that the apostles, as well as the prophets, did not believe in or teach a pre-existent God-savior. The apostles clearly taught against pagan Godworship, the same worship all Christianity teaches today.

Romans 1:20-25—
20 For since the creation of the world, the invisible things of Him are clearly seen—His eternal power and holiness—being understood by the things that are written; so that they are without excuse.
21 Because that, when they knew Yahweh, they did not glorify Him as Father, nor were thankful, but became idolatrous; Godworshipers (worshipers of elohim), in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools; simpletons,
23 And exchanged the glory of the uncorruptible Father for images, made to resemble corruptible man, and birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Therefore, Yahweh also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own minds, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who exchanged the truth of Yahweh for the Lie; Lords (Baalim), Gods, and Goddesses (Elohim), and worshiped and served the creation, rather than the creator, Who is blessed forever. Praise Yahweh! HalleluYahweh!


I Corinthians 10:20-22—
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to Yahweh; and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of Yahweh's table and of the table of demons.
22 Do we provoke Yahweh to jealousy? are we stronger than He ?


II Corinthians 6:14-18—
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with unright-eousness? and what fellowship does light have with darkness?
15 And what harmony can there be between Messiah and Belial; Worthlessness: Satan? Or what share does a believer have with an infidel; untrustworthy, not faithful, not true nor loyal?
16 And what agreement does The House of Yahweh have with Gods (elohim)? for we are The House of the living Father. As Yahweh has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their Father, and they will be my people.
17 Therefore: come out from among them and be separate, says Yahweh. Do not touch the unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says Yahweh Almighty.


II Corinthians 4:4—
For the god (el) of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.


Romans 6:15-16—
15 What? May we sin as though we are not under the Law, yet under Yahweh's undeserved pardon? by no means!
16 Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey—whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

I Yahchanan 3:7-9—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whoever is begotten of Yahweh does not commit sin; for His seed remains in Him; and it is possible for him not to sin, because he has been begotten of Yahweh.


I Yahchanan 5:18-21—
18 We know that whoever is born of Yahweh does not sin; but he who has been begotten of Yahweh keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we belong to Yahweh, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come, and has given us an understanding, in order that we may know Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true, for we are in His Son, Yahshua. Yahweh is the true Father, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from the defilement of Gods (elohim).


Revelation 18:2-5—
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 Gor all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues,
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh has remembered her iniquities!

However, the apostles knew Yahweh's Plan which called for a man to be born who would be sacrificed for the past sins of many. They also knew that this man would be raised again by Yahweh.........................Yahweh has always revealed Himself as our Father. Yahshua Messiah taught His twelve apostles to pray to Yahweh, and to begin their prayers to Him as "Our Father."

As you read for yourself, you will find that Yahshua taught His disciples, those who obeyed Yahweh, to pray in the following manner.

Luke 11:2—
So He said to them: When you pray, using this example, say: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be; to show reverence and respect to, Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done; as it is in heaven, so may it be in earth.

In their ministry, the disciples spoke of Yahweh as the Father of Yahshua, saying this specifically in the following Scriptures:

Ephesians 1:17—
Asking that the Father of our King, Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation; unveiling and uncovering truths, for the full knowledge of Him.


I Kepha 1:3—
Blessed be Yahweh, the Father of our King Yahshua Messiah, Who, according to His abundant mercy, has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah from the dead;


I Corinthians 8:5-6—
5 For even though there are many called gods (elohim), whether in heaven or on earth (As there are many gods; elohim, and many lords; baalim.),
6 Yet to us there is only One Authority, the Father, from Whom all things came and for Whom we live. And there is but one King, Yahshua Messiah, on Whose account are all things, and on whose account we live .


However, to the disobedient, Yahshua said:

Yahchanan 8:44—
You are of your teacher who is Satan the Devil, and whatever she who is your teacher desires, you will do. She was a murderer from the beginning, and remained not in the truth, because there is no truth in her. Therefore, when you speak your falsehoods, you speak her words, because she is a liar, and the teacher of all lies!

The Holy Scriptures show that we accept one of two beings as our head. We can either accept Yahweh as our Father (head) or we can accept Satan as our head.

Through this world's lust to break the Laws of Yahweh, they have rejected Yahweh as their Father, while accepting Satan the adversary as their head. By doing this, they have become the people of the devil, as the Apostle Shaul describes in the following Scriptures, because they did not like to retain Yahweh in their knowledge..............................................Yahshua Messiah said the following.

Yahchanan 6:44—
No man can come to Me, unless the Father, Who has sent Me, draws him; and I will establish him as a priest at the last day.

When we are called out of this world by Yahweh's Holy Spirit and begin to understand the importance of Yahweh's Holy Scriptures in our lives, we, even then, are only half of the creation Yahweh requires us to be, in order for us to enter His Kingdom. To understand this, we must understand the Plan of Yahweh.

When Yahshua was resurrected from the dead, He became the firstborn of many brothers.

Romans 8:29—
For whom He did foreknow, He also did foreordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

When we are conformed to Yahshua we will also be conformed to the Father Yahweh, because Yahshua conformed to be exactly like the Father.

Hebrews 1:3—
Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the prophets, when He had purged sin, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high;


http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Shaul-Do-Away.pdf



Much like the Christian NAZIs that preceeded you, you are ignorant an ddon't know what you speak of. I see through you like I see through the water that flows down my drain. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

Based on years of archival research, The Aryan Jesus examines the membership and activities of this controversial theological organization. With headquarters in Eisenach, the Institute sponsored propaganda conferences throughout the Nazi Reich and published books defaming Judaism, including a dejudaized version of the New Testament and a catechism proclaiming Jesus as the savior of the Aryans. Institute members--professors of theology, bishops, and pastors--viewed their efforts as a vital support for Hitler's war against the Jews. Heschel looks in particular at Walter Grundmann, the Institute's director and a professor of the New Testament at the University of Jena. Grundmann and his colleagues formed a community of like-minded Nazi Christians who remained active and continued to support each other in Germany's postwar years.

The Aryan Jesus raises vital questions about Christianity's recent past and the ambivalent place of Judaism in Christian thought.


ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.html

Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfilled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14

Already in 1971 the historian Uriel Tal challenged the entrenched view that racist antisemitism is a new phenomenon that repudiates Christianity by arguing that it was actually utterly dependent on Christian anti-Judaism for its success: “it was not the economic crises that brought about this new political, racial and antireligious antisemitism, but completely the reverse, it was precisely the anti-Christian and antireligious ideology of racial antisemitism which hampered the first antisemitic parties in their efforts to utilize the economic crisis for their political development . . . [because] what still attracted the masses was the classical, traditional Christian anti-Judaism, however adapted it may have become to the new economic conditions.”15 Tal demonstrated that Germany’s antisemitic, völkisch movements that arose in the nineteenth century had to abandon their initial anti-Christian stances in order to win supporters for whom Christian anti-Jewish arguments held profound political appeal.16 Even within the so-called “church struggle” between German Christians and the Confessing Church for control of the Protestant church, antisemitism became the glue that united the otherwise warring factions. Similarly, however much Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption, and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.

Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fighter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?

Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.

Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political significance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19 The German Christians sought control and radical reform of the Protestant church, which they never fully achieved, leading them to bitter complaints and, in some cases, demands for its demolition. Meanwhile, Christianity was not to be banned nor the churches outlawed; rather, as the historian Ernst Piper writes, Nazi strategy was to control the churches and lead to “a steadily advancing process of delegitimization and disassociation, of undermining and repression” that would undercut the church’s moral authority and position of respect.20 In its own supersessionist theology, an amalgam of Nazism and Christianity, with a rejection of church authority and doctrine, an assertion of German supremacy and Jewish degeneracy, and absurd revisions of the Bible, the German Protestant church contributed substantially to the Nazi project of undermining Christianity.

The establishment of the Institute in 1939 and the proliferation of its projects during the war years demonstrates that the antisemitism of the German Christians was not simply rhetorical, but was intended to lend active support to Nazi policies against the Jews—or, at times, to push those policies in more radical directions. Indeed, certain Protestant theologians stood at the forefront in discussions of the so-called Jewish problem; Gerhard Kittel’s notorious speech of May 1933, later published as a pamphlet, has been called the most antisemitic utterance of that year.21 In considering ways to rid Germany of Jews, Kittel proposed not only expulsion and guest status, but extermination (“Ausrottung”), a method he rejected only because it was too difficult to implement. On February 24–25, 1936, a few months after the proclamation of the Nuremberg Laws, but long before Jews were being deported and murdered, a group of theologians, some of whom subsequently became leaders of the Institute, met in Dresden to discuss a merger of the German Christian factions of the state churches of Thuringia and Saxony. During the course of the meeting, Siegfried Leffler, a German Christian leader, official in the Thuringian Ministry of Education, and, by 1939, figurehead of the Institute, stated:

In a Christian life, the heart always has to be disposed toward the Jew, and that’s how it has to be. As a Christian, I can, I must, and I ought always to have or to find a bridge to the Jew in my heart. But as a Christian, I also have to follow the laws of my nation [Volk], which are often presented in a very cruel way, so that again I am brought into the harshest of confl icts with the Jew. Even if I know “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment of God or “thou shalt love the Jew” because he too is a child of the eternal Father, I am able to know as well that I have to kill him, I have to shoot him, and I can only do that if I am permitted to say: Christ.22
What is striking is not only that Leffler spoke of killing Jews as early as February 1936, long before mass murder of the Jews became Nazi policy, but that there was no response to his comments from those attending, neither immediately nor later in the session; the discussion simply continued as if murder of Jews in the name of Christ was a customary topic.23 The aryanization of Jesus into a manly, heroic, fighting spirit reflected among the theologians the “heroic realism” that prevailed in the 1930s within right-wing political thought. That “heroism” meant killing one’s opponent without emotion but in accord with principles of natural law, in defense of one’s own race and at the cost of personal sacrifice.24 Paul Althaus, professor of theology at the University of Erlangen and a noted ethicist, was present at the meeting, but expressed nothing to indicate that he was appalled or disturbed by Leffler’s remarks. The lack of outrage is evidence that ridding Germany of Jews had become an acceptable point of discussion among theologians, even when murder was proposed as a technique of achieving it. The Nuremberg Laws, while perceived by many German Jews as protection from far worse legislation, were viewed as an encouragement by the German Christian movement to take even more radical positions. Legal cases in German courts, brought in the wake of the Nuremberg Laws’ criminalization of sexual relations and marriage between Jews and Aryans, and widely reported in the German press, implicated Jews as sexual predators of Aryans, further encouraging Christian theologians to insist on protecting Christian purity by eradicating Jewishness with even more radical measures.25 The penetration of Christian bodies by Jewish sex reiterated a typical motif of racist rhetoric, the dangers of miscegenation, and reinforced fears that Aryanism was not immutable, but subject to destruction by Jews.26 Antisemites had long insisted that German Aryan women were vulnerable to Jewish predation, and Jesus, whose gentleness and suffering was viewed as effeminate by German Christians, was depicted in one caricature as an Aryan woman on a cross with a lecherous Jewish man in the foreground: the crucifixion as the Jewish rape of Germany. ............................


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Post  true lilly on Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:45 pm

Explosions rock anti-mafia priest's center in Italy
From:AFP
December 27, 2011
9:37AM
A PAIR of explosions Monday (local time)
rocked a center for immigrant children
run by an anti-mafia priest in southern Italy,

local officials said, adding that no one was injured.


One of the blasts slightly damaged part of the building in Lamezia Terme,
a town with historic ties to the Calabrian mafia, known as the 'Ndrangheta.

The four-story building has since 2004 been used as a center for disabled people
run by Father Giacomo Panizza, who has struggled for years against the mafia.

"This seems like a very clear message," said the priest, known locally as Don Panizza.
He said he has received previous death threats from the powerful crime syndicate.

Last year, Panizza added an immigrant children's center to his building. The building
had been previously confiscated from the 'Ndrangheta after the group used it as a front
for drug trafficking.

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Panizza is respected across Italy for his social work and struggle against organized crime.
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PEOPLE SMUGGLERS PREY ON NEW ARRIVALS
People smugglers prey on new arrivals
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/people-smugglers-preying-on-new-arrivals/story-fn7x8me2-1226230797939

Richard Noone, Jessica Marszalek

PEOPLE smugglers are sending touts to Indonesian airports in an effort
to sign up arrivals willing to jump on a boat to Australia.

THE Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from other western countries
. Read more

The Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers,
sailors and air crew from Britain, the US and other western countries
in order to fill quotas.

The Australian reports (subscribers only) the navy has sent a delegation to Britain
to discover how many retrenched sailors, particularly engineers, are available.


A report on maintenance in Australia's navy suggested that
as many as 200 engineers are needed to rebuild lost expertise.


The paper reports the department also is looking for defence specialists,
such as fighter pilots, submarine crews and officers and are
offering
fast-tracked Australian citizenship as an incentive.
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Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011
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...oh, lots of bitter ranting against those who don't buy 'their' poison,
but nothing to explain the mysteries of David Icke's Heavily Advertised as
"Sold Out" 2011 Melbourne Show.
Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to
,
One VERY big 'hint'

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
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Craig Oxley/Bro. Jon Phelp's "The Unhived Mind"
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http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=494
Jordan and RUDD

This RUDESS means KEVIN RUDD.
KEVIN RUDD is the Prime minister of AUSTRALIA.
Australia is the HOME of people.
The real HOME. The PROMISED land.


The road to OZ....


The Golden Road...

California or JORDAN is DREAMLAND. Not real. Will disappear...

Jordan Rudess, born 4 NOVEMBER
member of DREAM THEATRE.


From Jordan (California) to
the land of Kevin RUDD.
THE ROAD HOME.
AUSTRALIA

Yep, that's close to 7 years of the "Ciggy's & tintin's"
continuing to hang themselves with the lifelines I drop them.


BRITAIN WARNED OF RECESSION RISK
Britain warned of recession risk

11:57AM
AFP
THE crisis in the eurozone
and sapped consumer confidence
risk sending Britain into recession,
a leading think tank warns.

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Post  Billy Ruben on Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:08 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Hi shitbag scumbucket.Cause you were spiteful spamming unrelate crap this morning and my little modem packed in,I just had a friend/connection replace modem,line filter,all chords and Now I'm going to be a bastard and spam the fuck out of this place.Sod was warned and he can't do shit about it,so suck my dick you dog raping,child porn freak...and you admitted you have child porn and JD John Drake/Droike plays moral card one day and defends a known and self confessed pervert the next day.Enjoy the Federal Police babe,cause they're next babe...FUCK YOU BITCH !!!!!!

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Billy Ruben wrote:
I was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5 days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me away after the hoax rape fiasco.

Of course I was sane,even the nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt with a patient a victim of the same group.

But don't say I didn't warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.

Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.

And I know you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.

Now,enjoy the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I love you.

satan satan satan satan




Billy Ruben wrote:
And when you decide to take a long stroll or go shopping,it's best to have every time-table for buses and trains,like I did.I escaped and went home for bongs,sex and real food.And a shower I did'nt need to wear footwear in.Seeing this horrible old 70 year old,squashing a shit down the drain hole of the shower.I was disgusted.Lock your shower door,or the fat brunette,who offered me free rent and a share in her house,came running in,sucking on my flaccid penis,the shampoo,blinding me at the very right second,almost,comical.I was scared of her.And always knock,before you enter any room,this horrible looking man,said I'm the Butterfly,just as hs started to ejaculate all over the back of the door from fast and furious wanking...be warned.It's gonna be fun.

cthulhu lmao


Billy Ruben wrote:Keep credit cards,ATM savings cards and all electronic ways of getting money,home,or hidden in your pants.They usually keep it in a safe and only allow you $15 a day back in 2002.Do not wear jewellery,rings,wedding or any sort.Keep valuables at home,or safety deposit box.




Billy Ruben wrote:
and keep your stupid fucking beliefs to yourself,OK...





Billy Ruben wrote:There is a forum admin here,named Sod/Julian.He's over 35,looks like a demonic version of Sting,Pommy (English),loves a night on the booze and drugs,which on average,makes him a lazy bastard.Like most western men are.Spoilt fuckin' rotten I say.But he'll find his runners,when he's conscripted for Asian battlefields,soon enough.I mean,if the bastard could use an iron lung to assist breathing,he would.It means,he hardly ever moderates,bit picky on who he answers PM's,real bitch.

However,there is a very skilled,rather energetic,smart and sassy,unbiased world wide women here,named Tiswas.

She's spiritual,understanding,gives good debates and I believe,quite unbiased in all matters concerning Icke.Offers the olive branch to those who foolishly,troll and attempt to sway her to the dark side.

This rare lady of light,with all her wisdom and knowledge,would be a great assett to the forums administration and I believe she is the answer to cleaning up the spam wars we have here,for which I trully,hand on heart apologise for my own involvement.

I hope the current admin,the one who needs a iron lung to breathe,maybe consider this idea as one of the few rare instances that I could conceive,that has a small amount of merit.

If anyone feels the idea should be lobbied to our admin,please raise your concerns here.

Thankyou to the forum for your time and consideration,yours sincerely,Billy Ruben.


thumbs up cheers


Billy Ruben wrote:I am sure,in the name of freedom of speech,that Droike,Marpat and True Lilly,their futures would be safe,in the hands of Tiswas.

Not so with Mr Ruben,who would Nazi there arses and relegate them to a new sub-forum,called The Gas Chamber.

Be lucky,that true lights like Tiswas exist.

adolf adolf adolf adolf






For I stand for Half-Caste pride,a Nazi and proud of it!!!!


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Post  Billy Ruben on Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:21 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Besides commending those Hooligans for defacing the Arch...I noticed Miss Newsbot,that you dilligently avoided the sexual scandals in our serving Navy and Army personelle.

Yes,we all know you treat women as second rate,just like my mother in law did,denied her own femininity and her tit rotted and dropped off as a sign to change her attitude to loving herself.Did'nt work of course,she grew a beard.

But just letting you know,as an ex-serving reservist,the stories in the papers are true and actually down played,as it is a disgusting mind-set that our military personelle enact on each other.

AND THEREFORE ARE TRAITORS TO MY COUNTRY AND WAY OF LIFE...SUCK MY LEFT TESTICLE WHILE YOU'RE ABOUT IT,CHUMP DOWN ON THIS AND EAT SHIT.


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10778347

Sex abuse still rife in armed services
By Greg Ansley 5:30 AM Friday Jan 13, 2012 Email
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Expand Australian Defence Minister Stephen Smith said sexual abuse would not be tolerated in the Defence Force. Photo / NZPAAlarming revelations in confidential military reports reveal that the Australian Defence Force is struggling to reduce levels of sexual abuse, bullying and other problems among its troops.

Despite a massive bid to shift the force's culture and seven reports probing almost every aspect of service life after a series of scandals, documents obtained by Channel Seven under freedom of information laws show little appears to have changed.

Most of the incidents were reported after the outrage of last year's Skype scandal, in which a cadet at the elite Australian Defence Force Academy filmed his seduction of a female colleague and broadcast it live to other cadets.

The incidents included in dozens of "hot issues briefs" obtained by Channel Seven ranged from rape and attempted murder to possession of child pornography, sexual assault, the concubinage of teenagers on base and further explicit videotaping.

The greatest number of complaints involved the navy, whose problems peaked with revelations of life on board the supply ship HMAS Success during an Asian deployment in 2009.

Subject to a separate report and pending action, these included inappropriate conduct towards women, workforce bullying, a "tribal culture" on board the ship, drunken and disreputable behaviour ashore, a breakdown in discipline and serious failures of command.

Even after the subsequent outcry, problems continued on board the Success.

The Channel Seven documents said one of its officers had been accused of inappropriate relationships with junior sailors and of filming them in the shower.

Videos of sexual acts with other sailors were also discovered, butdespite a record of similar behaviour the officer was transferred to another ship.

The documents also said that just four days after the first report into the original Success allegations, a sailor on the ship - now facing court martial - allegedly indecently assaulted two others in their cabin.

More serious was the charging of a sailor from the minehunter HMAS Yarra with aggravated sexual assault and strangulation with intent to murder.

In the army, a soldier was charged with rape, deprivation of liberty and assault involving a female civilian, another at the School of Artillery was found in possession of child pornography, and yet another was accused of housing two teenagers, aged 15 and 17, for two weeks in Sydney's Holsworthy barracks.

An air force member was charged with indecently assaulting a minor.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith said yesterday that such behaviour would not be tolerated.

"It is essential that the Defence Force promotes and enforces the highest standards of behaviour in line with modern community expectations and creates an environment where complaints can be aired and appropriately addressed," he said.

Smith already has a welter of disturbing reports to consider, continuing long lists of recommendations from the five inquiries established after the Skype scandal.

Most will be released this month, with the Government's response.
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Post  true lilly on Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:49 am

true lilly wrote:While I still can, I feel I should again, try making some things clear.

There are more than a few people 'out there' who 'watch' me.

They want to know, 'who I am', 'who I'm aligned to', 'what my agenda is',
and other such related and, I must say, both reasonably cautious, and
down right paranoid questions.

Seems most simply can't get their heads around the fact that though I am
an unconnected, independent, powerless person, I could still have had
an 'interesting' little life, that I have paid dearly for, yet have no desire
for things like 'pay-back' or vengeance, let alone using anyone, friend
or foe.

I am not political and I am not 'religious', I am simply a woman of faith
in The Creator God, who could no longer keep the truth of the blessings
that come with and of that faith, as my personal treasure.

What breaks my heart, and yes, it has been very heavy lately, is that
despite the countless real world, real life revelations and blessings -
that no man can make, buy or steal - that I've cared to share so that
others who have suffered similar injustices may also find the strength
to keep living, without bitterness - many still only want to hate me all
the more, for warning them against fighting God.
They would rather see me as some agent or danger, than admit their
real dangers are in their hearts and in their own 'house'.

A lot of the suspicions people have of me, also stem from the fact
that I don't fit into the any of the many molds of a 'God bothering',
'religious' person, and in deed, seem, to spill right into the molds
of loud and proud atheists.
And that saddens me because it means they still can't grasp the fact
that what makes us humans precious, it that we're all, unique, one off,
individuals, everyone of whom, God knows better than we know
ourselves, and calls to our own, unique rolls.

Another thing that bothers many is my 'knowing things' that are
usually kept secret within closed circles. It makes them suspect
leaks, spying and betrayal. Sadly, again, more comforting to many
than simply accepting that God does keep His promises, among which
is the promise to reveal things hidden, for His purpose, in His time,
by and through, His Holy Spirit of Truth.

And here's a truth that I do pray some will take to heart, rather than
the bad 'intelligence' fed them by those who claim to 'know' me.

Yes, I have had many cruelties and injustices heaped on me over
my entire life, and I do hunger and thirst for justice, but not 'for' me
(as much as I would delight some debts settled), as I am so very,
deeply grateful for my faith. It is priceless! As is my joy when I keep
seeing reports in the news of others who have suffered the same
injustices I have, finally having things turned around for them.

And I am not the only one who's been noticing how many stories
in the news lately, could be my stories. Right down to word for word
headlines.
But it just 'hit' me this morning; are all these reports of others getting
the justice I don't, 'supposed' to mock, challenge and destroy my faith?
Am I expected to become bitter with envy and rage at God?
I can only pray that there is someone among 'them out there', who
know, the opposite to be true.

Yes, it's also true that when I see selfish, lazy, traitorous people
being looked after and pandered to, I want to scream and slap them
(I harbour no delusions of being 'above' being subject to human emotions),
but again, not out of envy, but simply because I hate seeing bad being
rewarded with good.
But again I thank God for understanding that there are times when,
'seeming' imbalances are needed, to keep a greater balance, and that,
in the end, there will be, a Perfect 'accounting'.

So to all those fishing and digging to 'get at my secret', best you
dig in your own hearts, as I've made no secret of who I am, why
I care to post...and why I have so very many violent enemies:

It's, The God Thing.

I love Him, always have and always will, and that alone enrages,
those who don't.
Take Heed...

IT BEGINS....

The Great Leo Arrives in The Hood

"The cat's out of the bag,
the horses are out of the barn,
whatever the metaphor is,
it's happening,"

"a dog miaows" and
"the laughing bear rides a motorcycle".

Red Dog...

Black Caviar...

When ELEPHANTS ATTACK!!!
When tigers attack...


BEARS!!! BEARS IN THE NEWS!!!

"Arise, devour much flesh."

Apocalypse=REVELATION,
NOT 'the end of the world'...

It's About Time

Aboriginal Stonehenge:
Stargazing in ancient Australia

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!

It's "The God Thing"...

Europe's last monarchies (11 of 11)

RACE AGAINST TIDE...
and TIME...

For Worshipful 'tintin' Followers...

March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET


Fire at Gothic Slovak Castle
Casts Shadow Over Polls


(casts shadows over polls)
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
By Leos Rousek

As Slovakia focuses on
general elections, Krasna Horka
,
a monumental gothic castle in the eastern part
of the euro-zone nation
, burned down
after allegedly catching fire
from illegal burning of dry grass,
officials said Saturday.


“For many this sad event at Krasna Horka has cast a huge shadow over
today’s elections,”
outgoing Prime Minister Iveta Radicova said in a
live television interview commenting on exit polls of parliamentary elections.


The 14th-century national monument, whose name means
“beautiful little hill,” towers over the village of Krasnohorske Podhradie
near the eastern Slovak town of Roznava.
Photos here.


Slovakia’s left-of-center opposition Smer party is predicted to be
the election’s winner, estimated to garner 37.3% of the vote. The party,
championing higher taxes on the rich and large corporations, is
expected to lead talks on forming the new coalition government, possibly
including the centrist Christian Democratic Movement, or KDH.


KDH is estimated to have won 10.8% of the vote.
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

SEE ALL, UNCROPPED Photos here.
http://roznava.korzar.sme.sk/c/6293835/poziar-hradu-krasna-horka.html

The Krasna Horka Castle
Four Centuries of the Rule of Andrássy Family ...
http://www.hradkrasnahorka.sk/index.php?page&lng=en
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

Andrássy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A1ssy
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

Gyula, Count Andrassy (prime minister of Hungary) -- Britannica ...
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

"tintin's" thread at
David Icke Official Forums -:
'The NEWS behind The NEWS'-;

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1731
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1732
From 08-03-2012 to 11-03-2012.

...10-03-2012-;


The Krasna Horka Castle
Four Centuries of the Rule of Andrássy Family ...

March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
Fire at Gothic Slovak Castle
Casts Shadow Over Polls


CAREFULLY SCAN and COMPARE,
"tintin's" thread at
David Icke Official Forums -:
'The NEWS behind The NEWS'-;

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1731
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1732
From 08-03-2012 to 11-03-2012.

...10-03-2012-;
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope
SEE ALL, UNCROPPED Photos here.
http://roznava.korzar.sme.sk/c/6293835/poziar-hradu-krasna-horka.html

"tintin": an insight.

TINTIN SAYS HE IS GOD:
HIS thread THE BIBLE!


"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.


"tintin" WORSE than "Yellow"...

To quote "tintin", "it's all connected".

'David Icke/tintin's',
The NEWS behind the NEWS.


ASSANGE-ICKE-AARNOUT-et al...

'they' "TOUCH",
for 'their' FINANCIAL Health...

WHO'S "WE", PALEFACE?
CORI HAS ORDERED DEATH TO EVERYONE


FEET Of CLAY...



...here a little, there a little...

...line upon line...

...precept upon precept...

...command upon command...


Esther.
- Chapter 4:

13;
Then Mordecai 4782 commanded 559 to answer 7725 Esther 635, Think 1819 not with thyself 5315 that thou shalt escape 4422 in the king's 4428 house 1004, more than all the Jews 3064.
16;
Go 3212 , gather together 3664 all the Jews 3064 that are present 4672 in Shushan 7800, and fast 6684 ye for me, and neither eat 398 nor drink 8354 three 7969 days 3117, night 3915 or day 3117: I also and my maidens 5291 will fast 6684 likewise; and so 3651 will I go 935 in unto the king 4428, which [is] not according to the law 1881: and if I perish 6 , I perish 6 .

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Est&c=4&v=1&t=KJV

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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:07 am

http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1278-ballarat-police-confirm-my-suspicionstrue-lilly-lied-about-car-bombings

Billy Ruben wrote:...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...



Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.


How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

cthulhu cthulhu

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER


rolf rolf rolf rolf

Razz Razz Razz Razz

pig pig pig pig

tongue tongue tongue tongue

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... ...
... or you could simply 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...


Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.


DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...


Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?


From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben


your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after
, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.


Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...





the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...


True Lilly,puts her foot in it:
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.


Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...


THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...


Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
Billy Ruben wrote:...As I and many of you suspected,there was no car bombing,to True Lilly/Vera Susa/Suzy Ryan.Made good on a threat I made to her and rang the police to have her charged with defamation,to myself,her ex-husband and everyone else she has pointed a finger at for the last five years.We went through every detail,including her husband,whom they are tracking down,to give what information I was able to convey to him.

I enquired,she'd be easy to remember,she had a car bombing and put in hospital twice through beatings,not one detail was on file,nor could any officer at the station remember it.SHE'S A TOTAL FAKE ARSE FRAUD....IT'S OUT,SHE PLAYED YOU PEOPLE GOOD AND PROPER FOR YEARS,WHOEVER BOUGHT IT,YOU GULLIBLE LITTLE FOOLS.

Anyway,today is to be counted as great vfictory for truth and sanity,rest assured,the fool thinks she can spam this under the carpet,but it won't work,with due dilligence and participation by all.

You have a duty to do so,The Craig Oxley site went down,so full rebuttals are needed here.

I will not bend,tomorrow,it's the mental health authorities.I did'nt really want her charged,I just wanted her to make a scene with the police,so they lock her in the loonie bin,when that happens,it's usually for 6 months,scheduled.Which she needs for her and your safety.I will not back down and continue with this grubby war against the dragon,my boots are worn and could do with a new shod of leather.Hate her with a passion and will endeavor my best to garner a result.

I just wanted all her enemies to know and understand,everything she ever said,was a hoax,a lie and an attempt to gain favour by readership or money from you,the extortionist bitch.She'll try this on someone in real life and that will be the end of her,good and proper,you'll be reading about her soon enough,not enduring her slabs of lies for much longer and for that,I thankyou,Suzy Ryan.

fup butt rolf lol!
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA rolf ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
thumbs up rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .




Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...
rolf

tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.


lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.
Billy Ruben wrote:CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA rolf
[quote=”Billy Ruben”]
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.

EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... cthulhu [/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

rolf tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.

As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.

Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...


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Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .




Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' Rolling Eyes),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???


And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.

You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.

And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.

The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.

...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...



JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.
Billy Ruben wrote:so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...

lets investigate the reversal to her name

TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA

PUT TOGETHER...

LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...



thumbs up lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE... thumbs up
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/adult/grampians-a.htm






think I'm bluffing,guess again,have no shame in this and will rejoice the victory I have in mind for you...and I promise to pay one visit to you,just for that glee,that satisfaction and I gaze into those vacant scared eyes of yours,you want to be scared Suzy Ryan...you want to be...and we'll find,if your name is Suzy Ryan and someone you're setting up for the fall,such is the amount of lies and bullshit."I Am" was right about you fucktard,"She does'nt half talk a load of shit" and when people see you laugh at my condition and lie about the cats,you'll lose even more of your lousy readership,ha!,you already have,hahahahahaha,you're irrelevant and imbecilic rolf
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