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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:26 am


July+25+Quote.JPG
1173 × 1600 - July 25 - The Feast of Saint James
brothersonthecamino.blogspot.com

aww...did the rest of this post frighten the little junior members of the team...
never mind...it did hearten the babes in Christ, and their guardians...
...as this will also hearten those who make it, trudging through the swamp...


dixie d wrote:
21-07-2011, 02:20 AM #29603

I notice this morning that Tintin mentions the Dove and War and
Peace. As I have the Dove as my Avatar I wondered if it might link to
the Avatar.

Also with a the White he's mentioned I wondered if there might be a link to the White Cliffs of Dover. As you can see Dover has the word Dove in it.

The White Cliffs of Dover also reminds me of the song (There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover

Vera reminds me of Vera Susa and also Tiger Lily. Vera also reminds me of Vera Duckworth and Coronation Street, who's name is Elizabeth Dawn.

I notice again in the News today this article...

Tiger Woods and Steve Williams officially call it quits

In the article I notice the following...

Quote:
Team Tiger announced on its website Wednesday that Steve Williams will no longer be working with Woods as a caddie, ending a 12-year relationship that saw the two rack up 13 of Tiger's 14 major championships.
. As we are talking golf, caddie and Tee's reminded me of Tea Caddy

On that page you see the following...



Quote:
A silver plated tea caddy and a caddy spoon
And on the Caddy Spoon wiki page you see the following...



A Silver Spoon. There is a saying that some people are born with a
Silver Spoon in there mouth. A spoon is also made for stirring, maybe as
in Stirling.

On that page you also see the following...


Ocean Queen old styled tea box.

The picture also looks like the Titanic, which as we know was known as one of the White Star Line.

Ocean Queen also reminds me of Humphrey Bogart and the The African Queen

The African Queen reminds me of Todds Bar here in Chiang Mai where the
African Queen was showing. It also reminds me of Cori's Avatar because
Todd made a point of showing it to me.

Just to go back to the last movie I watched I am Legend and staring Will Smith. The movie was all about Zombies and Ground Zero (that's what Will Smith kept calling it), it was also about a Virus.

In the movie Will Smith had an Alsation dog, which in the end got the
virus and had to be strangled. Also in the movie I noticed it showed the
name Hughes which is the family name of my Mother (whether that was a
plant, or not I don't know).

Zombies to me are what you call mutations, which reminds me of Teenage Mutant Nigja Turtles

As I've said before, there is a bar here called the Bamboo Bar and there
was also a guy who had purchased a Ninja Kawasaki bike. They also sell Tiger Beer and also Singha Beer, InBev. These bears I believe react with my teeth causing me problems with my head.

In the (There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover song, you also see Bluebirds and Bluebird reminds me of Donald Campbell, notice the Chequered squares on his helmet.

There is a Chequers bars here in Thailand (Bangkok) where I asked for a
steak Medium to Well done and it came back Rare, which is one thing I
don't like, is Raw Meat.

I'll leave it there for now.Last edited by dixie d; 21-07-2011 at 02:29 AM.


"I don't like... Raw Meat."
Good, so not in league with Billy Ruben and Ciggy, who filled this site
with 'conversations' about Billy LUSTING OVER HIS NIECE, A CHILD.
(raw meat=fresh meat=young virgins=children), YES, 'they' DO FISH
for Twisted Evil FELLOW BABY F.U.C.KERS. Mad
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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  true lilly on Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:45 pm

Sorry Good readers, for some key truths that inspired 'them'
to flood my other threads with off topic preaching for every
dying religion man invented ('they' really don't care what they
sell, so long as it involves the rejection of The Creator's Holy
Spirit of Truth; the only unforgivable sin)
, so I'll refresh this
thread, with some more edifying revelations.


true lilly wrote:What about the Rothschilds?
Everyone love chatting about the Rothschilds, right.


They both savoured the strange warm glow
of being much more ignorant than ordinary people,
who were only ignorant of ordinary things.
--Equal Rites

Albert grunted.
"Do you know what happens to lads
who ask too many questions?"
Mort thought for a moment.
"No," he said eventually, "what?"
There was silence.
Then Albert straightened up and said,
"Damned if I know.
Probably they get answers,
and serve 'em right."
--From "Mort"

The whole of life is just like watching a film.
Only it's as though you always get in
ten minutes after the big picture has started,
and no-one will tell you the plot,
so you have to work it out
all yourself from the clues.
--Moving Pictures.

I like the idea of democracy.
You have to have someone everyone distrusts.
That way, everyone's happy.
--Brutha, Small Gods



Keneally and Macquarie
The visionary NSW needs right now

It's 200 years since

Lachlan Macquarie arrived in Sydney -
and he's got plenty to teach our premier.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...ml?autostart=1


Everyone is SUPPOSED to "SEE" ROTHSCHILD,
so as NOT TO SEE what they COVER...


Rothschild Australia - Welcome to Rothschild


The Rothschild Group has been
at the centre of the world's financial markets
for over 200 years.

It has had interests in Australia
since the colonial days.


Rothschild's offices in Sydney and Melbourne
provide corporate advisory services.

We are part of Rothschild's global network,
so our clients receive first class
independent advice and services
wherever their location.


http://www.rothschild.com.au/

http://www.rothschild.info/home/

Gee, funny 'coincidence' that, how a nobody,
got to get 'richer' than the Crowns ...

...just in TIME to DIVERT ATTENTION AWAY FROM,
THE MOST PRIZED JEWEL in THE HOLY CROWN...

...AUSTRALIA.


Oh God!...It IS SO SIMPLE...

"They" played the shell game,
hid the emerald under lies,
while they cleaned out their
neighbours treasure vaults,
and pack it all off to 'their'
'Safe House'...OZ...


A number of religions in Ankh-Morpork
still practiced human sacrifice,
except that they didn't really need to practice any more
because they had got so good at it.
--Guards! Guards!

i ♥ islam
by yass;



20-07-2011 at 05:40 PM.
Honour killing:
father gets life

A 50-year-old Turkish man
sentenced over the brutal murder
of his 20-year-old daughter...
..in
Germany

http://www.smh.com.au/world/honour-k...1230-liy7.html
Thunder rolled. ... It rolled a six.
--Guards! Guards!

http://www.theninemuses.net/quotes/discworld.html

Breaking News
10:21AM
MELBOURNE Storm
refute claims they've signed Mason

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...1230-lj5q.html
Last edited by vera susa; 30-12-2009 at 03:51 AM.

TIGER... TIGER...
BURNING BRIGHT...
He KNOWS The Word of GOD...
Tiger... Tiger...
BURNING BRIGHT...
PLAYING SAFE In OZ...


The Tyger

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright,
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire in thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder, and what art?
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand, and what dread feet?

What the hammer? What the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And watered heaven with their tears,
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb, make thee?

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright,
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?


William Blake
November 28th, 1757 -
August 12, 1827


William Blake was born on November 28th, 1757
as the third of five children to a London hosier.
Because of the relatively lower middle class status
of his father's profession, Blake was raised in
the same state of poverty that he would experience
throughout his entire life.
As a child, he was already fond of painting
and was eventually sent to drawing school as a result.
Young William received only enough schooling
to learn how to read and write while working in his father's shop.

While Blake received very little
of a traditional education,

he was well versed in
Greek and Latin literature,
the Bible, and Milton.

http://www.tuffydog.com/blake.html


Zoran the Bengal tiger plays with handler
Ben Britton
in the pool as part of
Wild Animal Encounters, a private zoo
where people can play safely
with endangered animals


Wild Animals Encounters'
Ben Britton
playing in the pool with
Zoran the Bengal Tiger

http://www.news.com.au/national/wet-...-1225814549201

Tiger Woods spotted with mistress

Tiger Woods


TIGER Woods has been seen partying
and holding hands with
one of his alleged mistresses
.
http://www.news.com.au/tiger-woods-s...-1225814541703

And again, KNOWING The Bible and POETRY
makes a 'poor' one RICH in Respect,
while REJECTING The Bible and WISDOM
makes a 'rich' one POOR in Respect.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thetonic

More hollywierd propaganda ! They
are desperately trying to influence the truth movement/ culture as they
know that certain fundamental truths are working their way out into the
masses.

Gog & magog ... pffffttt !

Sorry to burst your bubble, but,
The GLOBAL Conspiracy INDUSTRY
is the "New and Improved" version
of 'Hollywood', as it was of 'printing',
as it was of CATHOLIC MEDICI "arts",
and so on and on way back to Babel.

...so do, keep babbling on, BABYLON,
'you' WHORE'S Pimped out by DEATH,
so all may see and maybe, remember,
that The Last DEATH IS THE DEATH of
DEATH, And ALL WHO FREELY CHOSE
To SLAVE FOR IT.


They both savoured the strange warm glow
of being much more ignorant than ordinary people,
who were only ignorant of ordinary things.
--Equal Rites


TOO IGNORANT to Understand The VAST Difference between,
MY LOVING WARNINGS and 'YOUR' DEATH THREATS upon
JUDGING ME (rightly) as ONE WHO REFUSES to deny
The Creator of LIFE.
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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  true lilly on Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:52 pm

true lilly wrote:
July+25+Quote.JPG
1173 × 1600 - July 25 - The Feast of Saint James
brothersonthecamino.blogspot.com

aww...did the rest of this post frighten the little junior members of the team...
never mind...it did hearten the babes in Christ, and their guardians...
...as this will also hearten those who make it, trudging through the swamp...


dixie d wrote:
21-07-2011, 02:20 AM #29603

I notice this morning that Tintin mentions the Dove and War and Peace.
As I have the Dove as my Avatar I wondered if it might link to
the Avatar.

Also with a the White he's mentioned I wondered if there might be a link to
the White Cliffs of Dover. As you can see Dover has the word Dove in it.

The White Cliffs of Dover also reminds me of the song
(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover

Vera reminds me of Vera Susa and also Tiger Lily. Vera also reminds me of
Vera Duckworth and Coronation Street, who's name is Elizabeth Dawn.

I notice again in the News today this article...

Tiger Woods and Steve Williams officially call it quits

In the article I notice the following...

Quote:
Team Tiger announced on its website Wednesday that Steve Williams will no longer be working with Woods as a caddie, ending a 12-year relationship that saw the two rack up 13 of Tiger's 14 major championships.
. As we are talking golf, caddie and Tee's reminded me of Tea Caddy

On that page you see the following...



Quote:
A silver plated tea caddy and a caddy spoon
And on the Caddy Spoon wiki page you see the following...



A Silver Spoon. There is a saying that some people are born with a
Silver Spoon in there mouth. A spoon is also made for stirring, maybe
as in Stirling.

On that page you also see the following...


Ocean Queen old styled tea box.

The picture also looks like the Titanic, which as we know was known as one of
the White Star Line.

Ocean Queen also reminds me of Humphrey Bogart and the The African Queen

The African Queen reminds me of Todds Bar here in Chiang Mai where the
African Queen was showing. It also reminds me of Cori's Avatar because
Todd made a point of showing it to me.

Just to go back to the last movie I watched I am Legend and staring Will Smith.
The movie was all about Zombies and Ground Zero (that's what Will Smith kept calling it),
it was also about a Virus.

In the movie Will Smith had an Alsation dog, which in the end got the
virus and had to be strangled. Also in the movie I noticed it showed the
name Hughes which is the family name of my Mother (whether that was a
plant, or not I don't know).

Zombies to me are what you call mutations, which reminds me of
Teenage Mutant Nigja Turtles

As I've said before, there is a bar here called the Bamboo Bar and there
was also a guy who had purchased a Ninja Kawasaki bike. They also sell
Tiger Beer and also Singha Beer, InBev.
These bears I believe react with my teeth causing me problems with my head.

In the (There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover song,
you also see Bluebirds and Bluebird reminds me of Donald Campbell,
notice the Chequered squares on his helmet.

There is a Chequers bars here in Thailand (Bangkok) where I asked for
a steak Medium to Well done and it came back Rare, which is one thing
I don't like, is Raw Meat.

I'll leave it there for now.
Last edited by dixie d; 21-07-2011 at 02:29 AM.


"I don't like... Raw Meat."
Good, so not in league with Billy Ruben and Ciggy, who filled this site
with 'conversations' about Billy LUSTING OVER HIS NIECE, A CHILD.
(raw meat=fresh meat=young virgins=children), YES, 'they' DO FISH
for Twisted Evil FELLOW BABY F.U.C.KERS. Mad

And when reading dixie's posts,
lets not forget what dixie has in common with
my favourite author:
After various positions in journalism,
in 1980 Pratchett became Press Officer for the
Central Electricity Generating Board in an area which
covered three nuclear power stations.




The cliffs seen across the channel from
Cap Gris Nez, France


The White Cliffs of Dover owes its striking façade
to its composition of chalk
(pure white calcium carbonate)
accentuated by streaks of black flint...

FLINT...
Eze 3:9

As an adamant 8068 harder 2389 than flint 6864
have I made 5414 thy forehead 4696: fear 3372 them not,
neither be dismayed 2865 at their looks 6440,
though they [be] a rebellious 4805 house 1004.


CHALK...

Armed only with a frying pan and her common sense,
Tiffany Aching, a young witch-to-be, is all that stands
between the monsters of Fairyland and the warm,
green Chalk country that is her home.

Forced into Fairyland to seek her kidnapped brother,
Tiffany allies herself with the Chalk’s local Nac Mac Feegle -
- aka the Wee Free Men -- a clan of sheep-stealing,
sword-wielding, six-inch-high blue men who are as fierce
as they are funny.

Together, they battle through an eerie and ever-shifting landscape,
fighting brutal flying fairies, dream-spinning dromes, and grimhounds -
- black dogs with eyes of fire and teeth of razors -
- before ultimately confronting the Queen of the Elves,
absolute ruler of a world in which reality intertwines with nightmare.

And in the final showdown, Tiffany must face her cruel power alone...

In a riveting narrative equal parts suspense and humor,
Carnegie Medalist Terry Pratchett returns to his
internationally popular
Discworld with a breath-taking tale
certain to leave fans, new and old, enthralled.


Smile Wink


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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  Billy Ruben on Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:12 pm

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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  true lilly on Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:42 am

Good readers, as I see Billy Ruben is polluting my threads with the equivalent of
what one would find in the chamber pot of a man dying of vile diseases (and so,
not something one would want to pick through the details of), I'll simply post my reply
to his, not at all private, message to me on the same subjects, which though I didn't
bother answering point for point, will give you a sound and clear overview of 'his' problem with my character.


Hey, it was pretty hard to forget what 'you & ciggy' wrote and wrote and kept writing,
in my threads, in 'your' way off topic derailing exercise, and as WE FULL WELL KNOW,
simply 'discussing' 'that SICK topic' is a CALL OUT to the like (EVIL) minded, who DO
KNOW HOW to OPEN SECRET LINKS...as do those who do work to hunt and rid the world
of 'that' DISEASE.

btw, my Best Friends have always been Gentlemen, and it was an ex-copper who
stalked, sorry, is still stalking, me after my ex set him onto me over ten years ago,
who's into animals.

But dribble on, you ARE sounding more and more like those who hate me
simply
because I don't whore around like the WOmen who OWN their balls....the
same whores who spread the rumours in the first place, so that the men
they 'promised' the
joy of my intimate company to, would be offended when I declined their 'requests'.

...but onto more timely events...I am currently looking after two of the neighbours cats,
after
they caused one of them to lose one and a half feet...I have not put
them into the RSPCA (far more ruthless than police over car bombs), and
finally got them tame enough
to worm today, but if that whore doesn't call off her and the the other whores' mobs of kids,
I just may have to, as they do stress that poor crippled tom who came here because he
needs
a stress free refuge to better recover, not constant loud, destructive
violence...and, you really need to get off the drugs to argue with me,
as I do have a functioning memory...
it's because I do pull apart and
vacuum out my heater, that I could see how much trouble 'they' went to
cause a fire...plus the dicks didn't know the trick for putting the
front back on.

And as for my dog; she gets included in invitations to visit my friends, who 'you' do not
want to slander as 'you' just have me. There are some people left in the world who do
admire the Right Royal, quiet, respectful dignity of a good hound who's past gave them
every excuse to be a 'bitch', but unlike so many whoring WOmen and their lap dogs,
is Above being so crass.

P.S. as 'you' really do get 'your' rocks off, fiddling with my posts,
I can't help but wonder what else 'you' like to fiddle with in the real world,
that is also the opposite to constructive and edifying.
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Re: Lily Ponds and Marshland

Post  true lilly on Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:17 am



Wink Smile

The BLUEBIRD of HAPPINESS.

Many Native American tribes
considered the bluebird sacred.

It is a widely accepted symbol of
cheerfulness, happiness, prosperity,
hearth and home, good health, new births,
the renewal of springtime, etc.

Virtually any positive sentiments
may be attached to the bluebird.


Even in death...
A dead bluebird is a symbol of
disillusionment, of the loss of
innocence,
and of transformation from
the younger and naive to
the older and wiser.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%28There%27ll_Be_Bluebirds_Over%29_The_White_Cliffs_of_Dover

...yep,
better to invest time with dixie d's posts,
as they Do Educate and Edify
Very Happy
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060056660&postcount=29603

true lilly wrote:
July+25+Quote.JPG
1173 × 1600 - July 25 - The Feast of Saint James
brothersonthecamino.blogspot.com

aww...did the rest of this post frighten the little junior members of the team...
never mind...it did hearten the babes in Christ, and their guardians...
...as this will also hearten those who make it, trudging through the swamp...


dixie d wrote:
21-07-2011, 02:20 AM #29603

I notice this morning that Tintin mentions the Dove and War and Peace.

As I have the Dove as my Avatar I wondered if it might link to
the Avatar.

Also with a the White he's mentioned I wondered if there might be a link to

the White Cliffs of Dover. As you can see Dover has the word Dove in it.

The White Cliffs of Dover also reminds me of the song

(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover

Vera reminds me of Vera Susa and also Tiger Lily. Vera also reminds me of

Vera Duckworth and Coronation Street, who's name is Elizabeth Dawn.

I notice again in the News today this article...

Tiger Woods and Steve Williams officially call it quits

In the article I notice the following...

Quote:

Team Tiger announced on its website Wednesday that Steve Williams will no longer be working with Woods as a caddie, ending a 12-year relationship that saw the two rack up 13 of Tiger's 14 major championships.

. As we are talking golf, caddie and Tee's reminded me of Tea Caddy

On that page you see the following...



Quote:

A silver plated tea caddy and a caddy spoon

And on the Caddy Spoon wiki page you see the following...



A Silver Spoon. There is a saying that some people are born with a
Silver Spoon in there mouth. A spoon is also made for stirring, maybe

as in Stirling.

On that page you also see the following...


Ocean Queen old styled tea box.

The picture also looks like the Titanic, which as we know was known as one of

the White Star Line.

Ocean Queen also reminds me of Humphrey Bogart and the The African Queen

The African Queen reminds me of Todds Bar here in Chiang Mai where the
African Queen was showing. It also reminds me of Cori's Avatar because
Todd made a point of showing it to me.

Just to go back to the last movie I watched I am Legend and staring Will Smith.

The movie was all about Zombies and Ground Zero (that's what Will Smith kept calling it),

it was also about a Virus.

In the movie Will Smith had an Alsation dog, which in the end got the
virus and had to be strangled. Also in the movie I noticed it showed the
name Hughes which is the family name of my Mother (whether that was a
plant, or not I don't know).

Zombies to me are what you call mutations, which reminds me of

Teenage Mutant Nigja Turtles

As I've said before, there is a bar here called the Bamboo Bar and there
was also a guy who had purchased a Ninja Kawasaki bike. They also sell

Tiger Beer and also Singha Beer, InBev.

These bears I believe react with my teeth causing me problems with my head.

In the (There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover song,

you also see Bluebirds and Bluebird reminds me of Donald Campbell,

notice the Chequered squares on his helmet.

There is a Chequers bars here in Thailand (Bangkok) where I asked for

a steak Medium to Well done and it came back Rare, which is one thing

I don't like, is Raw Meat.

I'll leave it there for now.

Last edited by dixie d; 21-07-2011 at 02:29 AM.


"I don't like... Raw Meat."
Good, so not in league with Billy Ruben and Ciggy, who filled this site
with 'conversations' about Billy LUSTING OVER HIS NIECE, A CHILD.
(raw meat=fresh meat=young virgins=children), YES, 'they' DO FISH
for Twisted Evil FELLOW BABY F.U.C.KERS. Mad

And when reading dixie's posts,
lets not forget what dixie has in common with
my favourite author:
After various positions in journalism,
in 1980 Pratchett became Press Officer for the
Central Electricity Generating Board in an area which
covered three nuclear power stations.





The cliffs seen across the channel from
Cap Gris Nez, France


The White Cliffs of Dover owes its striking façade
to its composition of chalk
(pure white calcium carbonate)
accentuated by streaks of black flint...

FLINT...
Eze 3:9

As an adamant 8068 harder 2389 than flint 6864
have I made 5414 thy forehead 4696: fear 3372 them not,
neither be dismayed 2865 at their looks 6440,
though they [be] a rebellious 4805 house 1004.


CHALK...

Armed only with a frying pan and her common sense,
Tiffany Aching, a young witch-to-be, is all that stands
between the monsters of Fairyland and the warm,
green Chalk country that is her home.

Forced into Fairyland to seek her kidnapped brother,
Tiffany allies herself with the Chalk’s local Nac Mac Feegle -
- aka the Wee Free Men -- a clan of sheep-stealing,
sword-wielding, six-inch-high blue men who are as fierce
as they are funny.

Together, they battle through an eerie and ever-shifting landscape,
fighting brutal flying fairies, dream-spinning dromes, and grimhounds -
- black dogs with eyes of fire and teeth of razors -
- before ultimately confronting the Queen of the Elves,
absolute ruler of a world in which reality intertwines with nightmare.

And in the final showdown, Tiffany must face her cruel power alone...

In a riveting narrative equal parts suspense and humor,
Carnegie Medalist Terry Pratchett returns to his
internationally popular
Discworld with a breath-taking tale
certain to leave fans, new and old, enthralled.



Smile Wink
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Post  true lilly on Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:38 am

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Post  true lilly on Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:37 pm



It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning


Smile
It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

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Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:31 am

true lilly wrote:

It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning


Smile
It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning






...beautiful...
this, that, them & those...
...built to work; at work,
at what they're built for...
...beautiful...

It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

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Post  true lilly on Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:38 am

Why do 'you' keep asking questions of me,
when 'you' also boast of editing the forum, i.e.
'you' change anything, anyone wrote, whenever 'you' want?


true lilly wrote:

It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning


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It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning


...beautiful...
this, that, them & those...
...built to work; at work,
at what they're built for...
...beautiful...


It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:57 am



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The "Lion and Lighthouse" are both defining symbols of Lake Constance Embassy.
We are a Christian Ambassadorial Institution in Switzerland that is situated in the Lake Constance Region.
We understand ourselves according to the Holy Scriptures, to be Emissaries of the Sovereign Heavenly Kingdom.
We serve also in the European context as the
representational office for various international organizations that are
engaged in executing the Divine Design for humanity.

Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ...
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Here is a picture of Athena in the pasture...
goddess of wisdom, civilization, warfare,
strength, strategy, female arts, crafts, justice and skill...
..Athena is also a shrewd companion of heroes and
the goddess of heroic endeavour. She is the virgin patron


17 July 2011
Last updated at 15:30 GMT


Rebekah Brooks arrested by hacking police

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The BBC's Mark Sanders:

"This is an intriguing development"

Phone-hacking scandal

Ex-News
International chief executive Rebekah Brooks has been arrested by
police investigating phone hacking and bribery at the News of the World.
The 43-year-old was arrested by appointment at a London police station and remains in custody.
She was arrested on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications and on suspicion of corruption.
She quit News International on Friday as pressure mounted over her role in the deepening scandal.
Mrs Brooks was editor of the paper between 2000 and 2003,
during which time the phone belonging to murdered schoolgirl Milly
Dowler was tampered with.
BBC Business Editor Robert Peston said News International was
not aware that Mrs Brooks would be arrested when her resignation was
being discussed at the company on Tuesday and Wednesday of last week.
She eventually resigned on Friday.
Mr Peston added: "It's certainly the most extraordinary
development. Rebekah Brooks is incredibly close to the most powerful
people in the UK - the current prime minister, the previous prime
ministers Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. More or less every senior person
of influence within Britain."
He said it could now potentially jeopardise her appearance at
the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee on Tuesday, where she is
due to answer MPs questions on the hacking scandal.
"I would assume having been arrested it's now almost
impossible for her to appear. It's very difficult for MPs to ask her
questions that wouldn't be seen to be impinging on the police
investigation," Peston said.
'Conspiracy theories'
A spokesman for Mrs Brooks says the Met police notified her on
Friday, after her resignation had been agreed, that she would be
arrested.
He also said her arrest would make her appearance at the committee "pretty tricky".
“Start Quote

If this is designed to take the spotlight off the police

at the same time giving a shield to Rebekah Brooks,

that's a very serious matter indeed”

Adrian Sanders
Liberal Democrat MP

She had been offering to speak
to police on voluntary basis since January, so she was "very surprised"
to learn she would be arrested, he added.
Her former boss, News Corp chairman Rupert Murdoch, and his
son James Murdoch, chairman of News International, are also due to
appear before MPs.
In other developments:

Liberal Democrat MP Adrian Sanders, a member of the select committee, questioned the timing of the latest arrest.
"In whose interest was it for this arrest to take place
before Tuesday? Because if it does impede what we can ask, that's not
going to go down well with my fellow committee members.


Rupert Murdoch is due to appear before MPs on Tuesday

to answer questions on phone hacking

"Quite why now, just a few hours before our select committee
meets, an arrangement has been made for an arrest. A lot of people are
going to think this is very, very odd.
"If this is designed to take the spotlight off the police at
the same time giving a shield to Rebekah Brooks, that's a very serious
matter indeed. We don't know how much this is going to impede our
questioning until we've been able to sit down and talk it through with
the parliamentary counsel."
Another member of the select committee, Labour MP Jim
Sheridan, said he hoped her arrest would not affect her appearance
before MPs.
"The police will do whatever it is they feel necessary to do,
and if they feel it's necessary to arrest Rebekah Brooks at this time,
then so be it.
"I don't buy into the conspiracy theories that the police are
doing something underhand. I think it's just that if they feel it
necessary, then so be it. Their inquiry, it's far, far more important
than any other inquiry."
Labour MP Chris Bryant, who believes his phone was hacked, also has concerns about the timing of the arrest.
"It may be that the police are wanting to protect evidence so
that... they can lead to successful prosecutions, but there will be
plenty of people who are saying, right, this is an opportunity for her
to get out of saying things to the culture committee.
"In the end, of course, the police investigation is the most
important part of what we've been trying to seek for a long time, so we
do get to the bottom of the criminality at the News of the World."
Tenth arrest
Mrs Brooks's arrest is the tenth made by Operation Weeting
police, who are conducting the current investigation into phone hacking.

Others arrested and bailed have included ex-NoW editor Andy Coulson,
ex-NoW assistant editor Ian Edmondson, ex-NoW chief reporter Neville
Thurlbeck, senior ex-NoW journalist James Weatherup, freelance
journalist Terenia Taras, Press Association journalist Laura Elston, an
unnamed 63-year-old man, and ex-NoW royal editor Clive Goodman.
Officers from Operation Elveden were also involved with this
latest arrest. They are investigating allegations of inappropriate
payments to police, under the supervision of the Independent Police
Complaints Commission.

More on This Story
Phone-hacking scandal

News and analysis


11 July 2011: Last updated at 17:47 GMT
Cyprus: Zygi naval base
munitions blast kills 12


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Greek newspaper photographer Stephanos Kouratzis describes the impact of the blast

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A
massive blast at a munitions dump in southern Cyprus has killed 12
people, including the commander of the country's navy, officials say.
A fire reportedly ignited about 100 containers holding confiscated Iranian explosives at the naval base at Zygi.
The fire spread to the island's largest power station. It has been knocked out, resulting in widespread power cuts.
Defence Minister Costas Papacostas and National Guard Chief Petros Tsalikides resigned over the accident.

President Dimitris Christopfias, who went to the area, described
the explosion as "a catastrophe of biblical proportions".
He added: "We were devastated by this event, not so much by
the material damage, but by the loss of human lives and the injury of
many of our compatriots."
The dead also include the commander of the Evangelos Florakis
naval base, police said. About 60 people were wounded in the blast.
Government spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said sabotage had been ruled out.
Power cuts
Officials say all 98 containers of explosive stored in the munitions dump at the base had exploded.

They had been seized from a Cypriot-flagged ship, the
Monchegorsk, which was intercepted travelling from Iran in January 2009.

Cyprus said the shipment violated UN sanctions against Iran.
The fire spread to the nearby Vassilikou power station -
which provides 50% of the country's electricity - knocking out the
electricity supply to many homes and businesses.

The fire has also had a knock-on effect on the BBC's broadcasts to the eastern Mediterranean.
Six of the eight transmitters in the BBC's relay station at
Zygi are without power, interrupting direct English-language broadcasts
to the Middle East.

State radio said the dead included two sailors from the Cyprus navy, two soldiers and five firefighters.
'Total mess'
The blast, which occurred at 0600 (0300 GMT), was "rather like a sonic boom", eyewitness Hermes Solomon told the BBC.
He was staying in a caravan on a campsite not far from the base.
"The doors crashed together, the glass blew in - windows,
door frames, things left their shelves. It was a total mess inside, as
though a bomb had hit the place."
State television said the blasts caused extensive damage to
property in the area and sparked wildfires in nearby scrubland in the
tinder-dry summer conditions.
"It was huge. I fell out of bed and ran to check on the kids," nearby resident Eleni Toubi told Reuters.
Alexandra Dimitriou, who was at nearby Governor's Beach at
the time of the explosion, said all the hotels in the area had their
glass blown out.
"After the blast we walked up across the beach to make sure
there were no casualties," she told the BBC. "There was a lot of panic
there. Older folk thought the Turks were invading.
"There was shattered glass everywhere. We got in the car and
left to avoid getting stuck there and on our way back to Limassol we saw
road signs which had been ripped off by the force of the explosion."



Death toll rises to 15 in Cyprus naval base explosion
12 July 2011 |
Cyprus
By Cath Brazier

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Cyprus's defence minister and army chief have resigned after a massive explosion at a munitions dump killed at least 15 people.
The blast happened at a military base where confiscated Iranian munitions were being held.
It shut down the island's largest power station, causing widespread
power cuts, including to the four British military bases on the island.
The Ministry of Defence says no British personnel were injured.
It's believed the explosion at the Evangelos Florakis naval base near
Zygi between Limassol and Larnaca may have been caused by a brush fire.
The British military bases of RAF Akrotiri, Episkopi, Dhekelia and Ayios Nikolaus have all been hit by power shortages.
With criticism mounting over how the material that exploded had been
handled and stored, Defence Minister Costas Papacostas and the country's
top military official, National Guard Chief General Petros Tsalikides,
resigned.
A government spokesman said investigators had ruled out sabotage as a
cause for the blast. He said experts will be called from abroad to help
determine the exact cause of the explosion.
President Dimitris Christofias had asked Tsalikides and Papacostas to remain in their posts until replacements were found.
The government has declared a three-day mourning period with all
flags at public buildings flying at half staff. State funerals will be
held for those killed.
The concussion wave from the blast damaged houses in nearby villages,
and knocked out the island's main power station, leading to power cuts
in several areas. Authorities appealed to the public to limit their
electricity consumption, which has spiked amid a three-day heatwave that
has led to temperatures of about 40C.
Airport authorities said both Paphos and Larnaca airports were
reducing power consumption to the minimum possible and had turned on
their generators.
The Agriculture Ministry also urged the public to reduce water
consumption as much as possible because desalination plants had been
taken offline due to power problems.
The blast occurred just one day shy of the ninth anniversary of a
fatal national guard helicopter crash that killed then National Guard
commander Evangelos Florakis - for which the naval base is named - and
four other officers.
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Two Dutch radio towers catch fire

Two broadcast masts
in different parts of the Netherlands
have caught fire, one has collapsed.


On July 15 a fire caused a broadcast tower 303.5 metres
high to collapse in Hoogersmilde NE Netherlands.

On the night of July 14
a fire occured at a similar 366.8 metre high tower in Lopik central Netherlands resulting in that tower being shut down.
It has been reported that terrestrial FM and Digital TV signals to 80% of the Netherlands were lost.
Watch the YouTube video of the Smilde collapse

Read a Blog commenting on the events

http://tinyurl.com/MastsOnFire
Read the BBC report at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14168281
Wiki - Zendstation Smilde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendstation_Smilde
Wiki - Gerbrandy Tower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbrandy_Tower
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The July 25, 1994 issue of Time magazine.
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Europe singles chronology

"Sweet Love Child"
(1993)
"
The Final Countdown 2000"
(1999)
"Got to Have Faith"
(2004)

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Sting - Shape of My Heart - youtube.com
4 min - Ten Summoner's Tales (1993)



________________________________________________________________

Handel's Messiah
At the end of his manuscript Handel wrote the letters "SDG"—Soli Deo Gloria,
"To God alone the glory".
This inscription, taken with the speed of
composition, has encouraged belief in the apocryphal story that Handel
wrote the music in a fervour of divine inspiration in which, as he wrote
the "Hallelujah" chorus, "he saw all heaven before him".

Part I
Scene 1: Isaiah's prophecy of salvation
1. Sinfony (instrumental)2. Comfort ye my people (tenor)3. Every valley shall be exalted (tenor)4. And the glory of the Lord (chorus)
Scene 2: The coming judgment
5. Thus saith the Lord (bass)6. But who may abide the day of his coming (alto)7. And he shall purify (chorus)
Scene 3: The prophecy of Christ's birth
8. Behold, a virgin shall conceive alto)9. O thou that tellest good tidings to Zion (alto)10. For behold, darkness shall cover the earth (bass)11. The people that walked in darkness (bass)12. For unto us a child is born (chorus)
Scene 4: The annunciation to the shepherds
13. Pifa ("pastoral symphony": instrumental)14a. There were shepherds abiding in the fields (soprano)14b. And lo, the angel of the Lord (soprano)15. And the angel said unto them (soprano)16. And suddenly there was with the angel (soprano)17. Glory to God (chorus)
Scene 5: Christ's healing and redemption
18. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion (soprano)19. Then shall the eyes of the blind (soprano)20. He shall feed his flock (soprano)21. His yoke is easy (chorus)
Part II
Scene 1: Christ's Passion
22. Behold the Lamb of God (chorus)23. He was despised (alto)24. Surely he has borne our griefs (chorus)25. And with his stripes we are healed (chorus)26. All we like sheep have gone astray (chorus)27. All they that see him laugh him to scorn (tenor)28. He trusted in God (chorus)29. Thy rebuke hath broken his heart (tenor)30. Behold and see if there be any sorrow (tenor)
Scene 2: Christ's death and resurrection
31. He was cut off (soprano)32. But thou didst not leave his soul in hell (soprano)
Scene 3: Christ's ascension
33. Lift up your heads, O ye gates (chorus)
Scene 4: Christ's reception in Heaven
34. Unto which of the angels (tenor)35. Let all the angels of God (chorus)
Scene 5: Whitsun; the beginnings of Gospel preaching
36. Thou art gone up on high (soprano)37. The Lord gave the word (chorus)38. How beautiful are the feet (soprano)39. Their sound is gone out (chorus)
Scene 6: The world's rejection of the Gospel
40. Why do the nations so furiously rage together (bass)41. Let us break their bonds asunder (chorus)42. He that dwelleth in heaven (tenor)
Scene 7: God's ultimate victory
43. Thou shalt break them (tenor)44. Hallelujah (chorus)
Part III
Scene 1: The promise of eternal life and victory over sin
45. I know that my Redeemer liveth (soprano)46. Since by man came death (chorus)
Scene 2: The Day of Judgment
47. Behold, I tell you a mystery (bass)48. The trumpet shall sound (bass)
Scene 3: The final conquest of sin
49. Then shall be brought to pass (alto)50. O death, where is thy sting (alto and tenor)51. But thanks be to God (chorus)52. If God be for us (soprano)
Scene 4: The acclamation of the Messiah
53. Worthy is the Lamb (chorus)
Amen (chorus
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EZEKIEL 2 & 3
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4
And he continued saying to me: “Son of man, go, enter in among
the house of Israel, and you must speak with my words to them. 5

For it is not to a people who are unintelligible in language or heavy
of tongue that you are being sent—to the house of Israel, 6
not to numerous peoples unintelligible in language
or heavy in tongue, whose words you cannot hear [understandingly]. If
it was to them that I had sent you, those very ones would listen to you.
7
But as for the house of Israel, they will not want
to listen to you, for they are not wanting to listen to me; because all
those of the house of Israel are hardheaded and hardhearted. 8
Look! I have made your face exactly as hard as their faces and your forehead exactly as hard as their foreheads. 9
Like a diamond, harder than flint, I have made
your forehead. You must not be afraid of them, and you must not be
struck with terror at their faces, for they are a rebellious house.”
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Talk about...
HIJACKING & PREVENTING
=MANIPULATING,
COMMUNICATIONS...


Sticky:
Wikileaks Mega thread
( 1 2 3 ... Last Page)


secretagent
tags: insurance, Sod...!!! assange,
muad'dib, sayan, wikileaks
replies: 2,144

Note these 'people' DON'T "INSURE" the Lives of those
'they' SET TERRORISTS and 'lone'NUTTERS out to KILL;
but are 'great' at stirring up the rebellions that produce so many
sacrificial lambs for the CON Industry BRAINWASHED to target.

Note also, how much cori/tintin are getting off on claiming that
'they' "PREDICTED" the DEATH of Amy Winehouse,
and the BOMBINGS and SHOOTING in OSLO,

yet How SILENT 'they' are on THE DESTRUCTION of TWO DUTCH
RADIO TOWERS and 80% of Their DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS,
And THE CYPRUS BOMBING PRECEDING IT, that KNOCKED OUT
BRITISH COMMUNICATIONS to The MIDDLE EAST.

Pity the fools who 'invested in' Assange/Icke/tintin "Insurance".

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2971
Read backwards from there,
where 'they'
have 29,700 replies and 18,225,504 views
from where to find the plotters and those accepting orders.

David Icke's Official Forums
> Main Forums
> Today's News

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2971
The NEWS behind the NEWS.
( 1 2 3 ... Last Page;2971)

tintin
[url=http://forum.davidicke.com/member.php?u=13318]cori[/url] wrote:24-07-2011, 02:00 AM #29701
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No attack happened at BERLIN on june 26, as some expected...
but that day, that finale soccer game, showed us exactly, what would happen:

here you see Hope Solo with Wulff, who also welcomed Lena
when she was back from Oslo:

HOPE SOLO LOST. Japan won the tournament.
The decision was made through penalty kicks, after the game ended 2:2 (22!)
In german thats called 11 METRES shooting for the ball
has to be kicked off 11 metres from the goal.

11 = 4+7 = 2+2+7 = JULY 22
11 = 11 or 23 o'clock = 32 = Winnenden = age of ABB = 32
(and btw. also 32 dead in china train crash same day)
11 = 9+2 = 92 victims (so far tonight)
last but not least 11 = ELEVEN = elves = fairies = demons

11 METRES :
MET = WINE = WINEhouse = WIN = WINNENDEN = AMOK

Lena won at TELENOR ARENA OSLO
Lena + Raab = Rena.
Norway's Rena is the place where ABB has his geofarm
'I heart you' and the amok island shaped like a heart
(Hope Solo's dad is a Vetnam veteran and hence
links to Cruises '4th of july'+ Katie Holmes.
Holm means 'small island' see above)
On Lena-day, jimmy jump HOPPED the stage and HOPPER died.
HOPPER and HOPE.
Hope Solo lost and then there was
NO HOPE for OSLO
Hope Solo originally from Richland, Washington.
It was home of WWII nuclear center 'Hanford Site
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site
Lena is from Han_over. Winnenden and all the HAHN 's.
Now look at this about Hope Solo's Richland:

Quote:
Bis heute lebt die Stadt mit den Schatten der Vergangenheit, so
nennt sich beispielsweise das Sportteam der Richland High-School „The
Bombers“ und ihr Abzeichen ist der Atompilz
Richlands high school sportteam is called The bombers
and their logo is the atomic mushroom
...and ABBy was the BOMB
what a load of absurd bullshit reality
Last edited by cori; 24-07-2011 at 02:52 AM.

...so why post it, 'cori'?
Why post the absurd,
highlight and hide, select and bury game,
that 'you and' Team tintin Do?


Other than 'your' playing 'dog in the manger',
threat games, over this
uniquely rich and glorious land.
true lilly wrote:Why do 'you' keep asking questions of me,
when 'you' also boast of editing the forum, i.e.
'you' change anything, anyone wrote, whenever 'you' want?


true lilly wrote:

It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning


Smile
It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning


...beautiful...
this, that, them & those...
...built to work; at work,
at what they're built for...
...beautiful...


It was Unpredictable that
Ball Lightning would have formed
at the right time and place
to have saved my life once...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning

Smile

true lilly wrote:

Wink Smile

The BLUEBIRD of HAPPINESS.

Many Native American tribes
considered the bluebird sacred.

It is a widely accepted symbol of
cheerfulness, happiness, prosperity,
hearth and home, good health, new births,
the renewal of springtime, etc.

Virtually any positive sentiments
may be attached to the bluebird.


Even in death...
A dead bluebird is a symbol of
disillusionment, of the loss of
innocence,
and of transformation from
the younger and naive to
the older and wiser.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%28There%27ll_Be_Bluebirds_Over%29_The_White_Cliffs_of_Dover

And when reading dixie's posts,
lets not forget what dixie has in common with
my favourite author:
After various positions in journalism,
in 1980 Pratchett became Press Officer for the
Central Electricity Generating Board in an area which
covered three nuclear power stations.





The cliffs seen across the channel from
Cap Gris Nez, France


The White Cliffs of Dover owes its striking façade
to its composition of chalk
(pure white calcium carbonate)
accentuated by streaks of black flint...

FLINT...
Eze 3:9

As an adamant 8068 harder 2389 than flint 6864
have I made 5414 thy forehead 4696: fear 3372 them not,
neither be dismayed 2865 at their looks 6440,
though they [be] a rebellious 4805 house 1004.


CHALK...

Armed only with a frying pan and her common sense,
Tiffany Aching, a young witch-to-be, is all that stands
between the monsters of Fairyland and the warm,
green Chalk country that is her home.

Forced into Fairyland to seek her kidnapped brother,
Tiffany allies herself with the Chalk’s local Nac Mac Feegle -
- aka the Wee Free Men -- a clan of sheep-stealing,
sword-wielding, six-inch-high blue men who are as fierce
as they are funny.

Together, they battle through an eerie and ever-shifting landscape,
fighting brutal flying fairies, dream-spinning dromes, and grimhounds -
- black dogs with eyes of fire and teeth of razors -
- before ultimately confronting the Queen of the Elves,
absolute ruler of a world in which reality intertwines with nightmare.

And in the final showdown, Tiffany must face her cruel power alone...

In a riveting narrative equal parts suspense and humor,
Carnegie Medalist Terry Pratchett returns to his
internationally popular
Discworld with a breath-taking tale
certain to leave fans, new and old, enthralled.



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Post  true lilly on Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:38 am

Do you see what I see?

Do you wonder why it was done?



Artificial color image
of the Double Helix Nebula,
thought to be generated at the
galactic center by magnetic torsion
1000 times greater than the sun's.

Yep, a STAR of DAVID
circled by 12 more
POINTS of LIGHT.


And if you click on to the full sized image, also...

The Tudor rose
is used as the plant badge of
England.

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London 2012 Olympics:
medal designs unveiled




MORE Wink here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8665946/London-2012-Olympics-medal-designs-unveiled.html



Now why would a world full of
CONspiracy 'sleuths' keep avoiding,
the topic of the "O" in ZION

(in The Centre of this circle
representing The World),


looking just like OZ, O'ZION,
AUSTRALIA
,
even with the 'dot' of the "I" there
for little Tasmania?






Could it be for the same reason 'they' also
keep avoiding
the topic of who Australia
can thank for BOOMING while
the rest of
the world, is crashing?








Moreover, thou son 1121 of man 120,
take 3947 thee one 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Judah 3063,
and for the children 1121 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:
then take 3947 another 259 stick 6086,
and write 3789 upon it, For Joseph 3130,
the stick 6086 of Ephraim 669,
and [for] all the house 1004 of Israel 3478
his companions 2270:

And join 7126 them one 259 to another 259
into one 259 stick 6086;
and they shall become one 259
in thine hand 3027.


Moreover I will make 3772
a covenant 1285 of peace 7965 with them;
it shall be an everlasting 5769 covenant 1285
with them:
and I will place 5414 them,
and multiply 7235 them, and will set 5414
my sanctuary 4720 in the midst 8432 of them


for evermore 5769.

My tabernacle 4908 also shall be with them:
yea, I will be their God 430,
and they shall be my people 5971.

And the heathen 1471 shall know 3045
that
I the LORD 3068 do sanctify 6942 Israel 3478,
when my sanctuary 4720 shall be in the midst 8432

of them for evermore 5769.


Please, Do Bother to read through ALL
The Words FULL DESCRIPTIVE MEANINGS,
including the root words:


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Post  MoMo on Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:47 pm

true lilly wrote:Now who's being elitist here? 'You'. Not me.

Why keep peddling the lie that one must be
'privy to secrets' of any religion or group,
in order to have God's Word revealed? When
God Promised ANYONE who sought to know Him,
with their Whole Heart, Mind and Strength
(Testing Scripture against Scripture, and, What Is,
In The Whole Real World), would be answered,
with revelations, knowledge, understanding and
Others of His Blessings.

Lilly, your post is proof that you have eyes yet you are blind and do not see. Had you bothered to read and comprehend my Post you would 'see that it is a Public Revelation, not private like your bullshit. thumbs up


Most peeps don't realise that Quality Control is 'Built Into' the Bible--Checks & Balances.

Bullshit never holds up to pressure. thumbs up

[size=24]#1: The Torah was presented publicly, Telepathicly; to the Entire Nation of Hebrews along with the greeks and egyptians that had accompanied them. Impossible to fake. thumbs up


What support is there for the claim that God spoke to all the Jewish people at the foot of Mount Sinai?


http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/start-of-judaism/

The Torah claims that the entire Jewish nation heard God speak at Sinai, an assertion that has been accepted as part of their nation’s history for over 3,000 years................Two types of stories are part of any national heritage.

The first kind is legends. Included in this category is George Washington’s admission to chopping down the cherry tree, along with his statement, “I cannot tell a lie.” Johnny Appleseed planting apple trees across America with his discarded apple cores is another legend
..........................................What is the difference between legend and history?

A legend is an unverified story. By their very nature legends are unverifiable because they have very few eyewitnesses. Perhaps little George did chop down the cherry tree. We can’t know if it happened. This does not mean that the legend is necessarily false, only that it is unverifiable. No one thinks legends are facts, therefore they are not accepted as reliable history.

History, however, is comprised of events we know actually happened. It is reliable because we can determine if the claimed event is true or false through a number of ways. One key to verification is the assertion that large numbers of eyewitnesses observed the specific event
.....................................SINAI: AN IMPOSSIBLE HOAX

So far we have seen two types of claims—one is unverifiable and the other is inherently false.

Could the revelation at Sinai have been a brilliant hoax, duping millions of people into believing that God spoke to them?
....................SINAI: THE ONLY CLAIM OF NATIONAL REVELATION

Throughout history, tens of thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that God spoke to him or her. All religions that base themselves on some type of revelation share essentially the same beginning: a holy person goes into solitude, comes back to his people, and announces that he has experienced a personal revelation where God appointed him to be His prophet.

Would you believe someone who claims to have received a personal communication from God appointing him or her as God’s new prophet?

Maybe He did. Then again, maybe He didn’t. One can never know. The claim is inherently unverifiable.

Personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion since one can never know if it is indeed true. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, there is still no verification that he is a genuine prophet. Miracles do not prove anything. All they show—assuming they are genuine—is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy................................There are 15,000 known religions in all of recorded history. Given this inherent weakness, why do all of them base their claim on personal revelation? If someone wanted their religion to be accepted, why wouldn’t they present the strongest, most believable claim possible—i.e. national revelation! It’s far more credible. No one has to take a leap of faith and blindly trust just one person’s word. It is qualitatively better to claim that God came to everyone, telling the entire group that so-and-so is His prophet.

Why would God establish His entire relationship with a nation through one man, without any possibility of verification, and still expect this nation to obediently follow an entire system of instructions, based only on blind faith?

Yet, Judaism is the only religion in the annals of history that makes the best of all claims—that everyone heard God speak. No other religion claims the experience of national revelation. Why?

..................Let’s summarize two primary questions:

1. Out of 15,000 known religions in recorded history, why is Judaism the only one that claims national revelation, the best of all claims? Why do all other religions base themselves on the inherently weak assertion of personal revelation?

2. If Judaism’s claim is indeed an example of a successful hoax that falsely asserts national revelation, the author just got away with passing off the best possible claim, and others will certainly follow suit. Why then would he predict that no one else will ever make a similar claim, a prediction he knows he cannot foresee, and whose outcome is likely to be the exact opposite?

There is one simple answer to both questions. A national revelation—as opposed to personal revelation—is the one lie you cannot get away with. It is one event you cannot fabricate. The only way to make this claim is if it actually happened.

If the claim is true, the people will believe it because they are agreeing to something they already know. Either they personally witnessed it, or their ancestors collectively passed down the account as part of their nation’s accepted history.

If the claim is false, it’s like trying to convince you that God spoke to you or your parents and somehow you never heard of it. No one would ever accept such a claim.

Therefore no other religion has ever made the best of all claims, because it is the one claim that can only be made if it is true. One cannot pass national revelation off as a hoax.

When inventing a religion, the originator must resort to personal revelation, despite its inherent weakness, since it is a claim that is unverifiable. The originator can hope to find adherents willing to take a leap of faith and accept his or her religion. After all, no one can ever know it is a lie. [Of course, no one can know if it’s true either.] This simply cannot work with national revelation since it’s the one claim that everyone will know is a lie.

Only Judaism can claim national revelation since the Jewish people is the only nation in the history of mankind who ever experienced it
.


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Bullshit can't handle pressure.it is like a bluff in a Poker Game............if I am holding an excellent hand I'll see all your bets/raises and then 'call you'.

When you produce your shit hand and I lay down my Royal Flush I'll collect the Ducats. nuthin' personal. thumbs up

There are many other quality Control features in the Bible, but the National Revelation, and Yahshuas/Jesus ministry was Public are significant factors.







Cheers Matey.

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lissen up you ignorant bitch, your Avatar is a deception-you only placed a partial map of europe over the map of Australia. thumbs up

TORAH FOR ALL ISRAELITE NATIONSBy Rabbi/Brother Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky
http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/26.php

THE PROMISE TO END SLAVERY thumbs up
In Bereshith 15:13 Yahuwah prophesies to Avraham that his seed will be strangers in a strange land for 400 years. We learn that the nation enslaving them would be judged, while Abraham’s children would make an exodus with great wealth. Yahuwah uses the 400 years as a general time frame even tough the actual time of slavery was 430 years. In Bereshith 46:4 Yahuwah tells Israel/Yakkov to go down to Mitzrayim in order that Yahuwah can bring to pass the patriarchal promise of physical multiplicity, while Yahuwah promises to be with Yisrael in Mitzrayim. When Yahuwah is with you, no one can be against you or His plan for your life. Yahuwah also promises to return Israel to Canaan, when He brings them up again from Mitzrayim. This promise is confirmed to Yisrael in Bereshith 28:15.

INITIAL OFFER

Yisrael was to be set-apart by their prophesied exodus from Egypt, and in order to seal their set-apartness from all nations, they were to be given a Torah or a set of loving instructions. According to Devarim/Deut. 4:6, all nations would then see that “only a wise (spiritual), and understanding people was this GREAT (physical) nation. Israel was brought forth, and set-apart to shine before men. In like manner Yahshua renewed that call in Matityahu 5:13-14. Torah would become their wisdom after the presentation of Torah to Yisrael on Horeb. When Israel obeys Yahuwah’s ways, all nations will confess our greatness, and our favor before man and Yahuwah. On Sinai/Horeb Yahuwah betrothed Himself to Yisrael. This betrothal is called an eruzin. It is a pledge unto consummation rather than a consummation act itself. In Tehillim 138:4 the Devar Yahuwah calls on all the earth’s kings, and rulers to give thanks to Yahuwah for His Torah being given to national Israel. The exodus was not merely to remove Israel from bondage but to allow all nations, and all kings of all nations to hear the Words of Yahuwah known as Torah. Our sages have taught us that at first Yahuwah revealed, and offered his chesed/grace to the sons of Esau/Edom, as it is written in Devarim 33:2. But they rejected Yahuwah, even though He rose up first to offer Torah to Esau. However Esau rejected the Torah from Sinai, when Yahuwah “rose in Seir” only to be denied. Then Yahuwah offered the Torah to the rest of the sons of Ishmael symbolized by Mt. Paran, who according to Devarim 33:2-3, also rejected the “shining forth” of Torah from Sinai, even though the manifestation of fire accompanied it, along with myriads of melachim/angels!

“HEBREW-NATIONAL” ADAM

When Edom and Ishmael rejected the Torah, Yahuwah then turned to His second son, the second Adam or national Adam. That, among a myriad of other reasons is why most of the modern Arabs hate Israel, (both houses) since they rejected the true Word of Yahuwah, which Israel later accepted. Ultimately the Arabs adopted the false words of a man made deity called Allah. Not only do Edomites hate Israel for accepting the living oracles, they also hate Israel (Jews and most Christians) for having accepted the “living Torah”, the Messiah Yahshua Himself. Today’s Muslims have once again rejected the living Torah, (true biblical Yahshua as Yahuwah’s ONLY brought forth SON!) as their Edomite and Ishmaelite forefathers rejected the living oracles shining forth from Sinai. Even today Muslims claim that Gabriel gave the latter revelation of the Koran, to Mohammed in large part to CORRECT THE ERRORS OF TORAH that the Jews and Christians added when they corrupted the Torah’s truth! Nothing much has changed in the last 3,500 years.........................

Everything you need to remediate your ignorance concerning the Lost Tribes. thumbs up

http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/

From FULL RESTORATION OF ALL ISRAEL series
http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=home

Full Restoration Of Israel!
Part I of a Series


The
In Genesis 13:14-16 Yahuwah our Heavenly Father promised Abram the land of Canaan as well as a promise of physical multiplicity of his zera or his seed (sperm). Abram was told that this promise of physical multiplicity will be so vast and so extensive that the entire earth will literally be full of his zera. Verse 16 reminds us that at the time that this promise is literally and physically brought to pass it will be absolutely impossible for mankind to even count it, or in any way census it, since mankind is totally impotent and unable to count the dust of the earth. This promise is straightforward, needing absolutely no interpretation or explanation. That same seed will inherit the land eventually to be known as Israel.

In Genesis 15 verses 1-6 we see Abram willing to help Yahuwah fulfill the promise of Genesis 13 by prematurely and incorrectly choosing Eliezer, a Gentile, who is not a physical offspring of Abram's own sperm or zera, to be the one through whom that promise would be brought to pass. However Yahuwah rebukes Abram and makes it clear to him that His promise of physical multiplicity that would become a number that man would not be able to number would not come through an adopted Gentile or a second class choice. No! Our Heavenly Father ordained that this promised heir would come from Abram's own body. He would not be adopted but he would be a physical descendent of Abram. It is through this physical descendent that Yahuwah once again promises Abram that his physical offspring will be more than the stars of Heaven. Obviously through modern science we know that our solar system has billions of stars and of course that other solar systems have many more billions. These stars in totality produce a number that mankind cannot even fathom. Yahuwah challenges Abram's lack of ability in counting the stars with the words "if you can" in verse five. It is because of Abram's pure faith and trust in Yahuwah that he receives imputed righteousness as a result of his believing and trusting in Yahuwah's promise. Notice there is only one promise not many promises. Abram was declared righteous by faith in Yahuwah's one promise. Whoever this physical seed would turn out to be it would literally have to be more than the dust particles of the sea and the visible stars of heaven. This promise must be taken extremely and solely on a literal face value. Any tendency to somehow spiritualize this promise is a lack of faith in Yahuwah's literal Word. That would be the very opposite of the faith of Abram himself.

This promise of physical multiplicity and blessing is renewed in Genesis 17 verse 4 where Abram is told that this promise will establish him as a father of many nations or "hamon goyim". This term "hamon goyim" is also found in verse 5 and literally means a noisy multitude of Gentile nations. This physical seed that will literally fill the globe will not be a silent group of religious folks, rather they will be a great and noisy multitude making a great noise and tumult about Yahuwah and His gospel love for humanity. Verse 6 of Genesis 17 promises Abraham that through this seed of promise, kings would be manifest. This of course is talking about the kings that would one day make up the royal House of David through whom Messiah would come to His throne. In verse 7 Yahuwah reassures Abraham that this promise of greatness through physical multiplicity would be unconditional and everlasting...................

lilly, your bullshit is played out, you are the elitist, deceiver......do a reality check.
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Post  MoMo on Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:49 pm

why don't you explain how the following is 'Elitist' you antisemitic NAZI bitch. thumbs up

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of Yah/God

The Human..........

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." [5] Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people." Rabbi Greenberg

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for Yahwehs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, Yahweh invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.


The promise to Abraham was that his 'seed' will measure like the sand on a beach or stars in the sky, that's alot.

Ultimately, according to Yahwehs Plan, Humankind will Colonize the Universe as loving, caring Beings. Our Echelon will rise: Right now we are below the Malakim/Angels, when Yahwehs Plan comes to full fuition we shall rule over the Malakim/Angels.

The Earth is Humankinds beginning.

The Tikun Olam

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over allits enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of lifes capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Xns.

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is Yahweh-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* Yahweh, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: Yahweh.

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of Yah'

* This emergence of "The Image of Yah" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Xns.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of Yahs' Consciousness is so much like Yahwehs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, The Human 'Image of Yah' has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* Yahweh has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of Yah', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that Yahwehs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Xns alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of Yahweh' brings with it more Yahweh like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of Yahweh'; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rightts, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh, when we achieve this Level we will be allowed access to the rest of the Universe.
Our level of development currently would only bring grief to the other inhabitants of other worlds.
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Post  true lilly on Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:05 am

So much insanity at DIF now, I don't which to pick.

But I did notice something VERY TELLING...


delinquentgrrl wrote:
29-10-2009, 02:15 AM #452

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa



There seems to be a strong tie between quite a few
Chinese characters and the Bible teaching,
without which it's simply difficult to explain
the component parts that make up the characters.

Some of these words are listed in the following
together with illustration of their ties with the Bible.


Creation is comprised of the following components
dust (breath of) life (from God's) mouth motion = Creation



Without reading the verse from Genesis 2:7, it's difficult to understand
how Can Ji could come up with this character.

Genesis 2:7 - The Lord formed the man from the dust of the ground
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man
became a living being
.

Forbidden
is comprised of the following components
tree (of knowledge) tree (of life) command (from God) = Forbidden



Again, the components of the word become meaningful
after reading the following verses.
Genesis 2:16,17 - And the Lord commanded the man,
"You are free to eat from any tree in the garden,
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
for when you eat of it you will certainly die".
Genesis 3:24- After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of
the Garden of Eden Cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth
to guard the way to the tree of life.

And indeed, through the sins of one man (Adam) we are separated from
God; and only by accepting Jesus (flaming sword), can we return to him.

Ship is comprised of the following components

boat eight mouth (family member) = Ship



The origin of this word becomes more meaningful after reading
the following verse.
Genesis 7:7 - And Noah and his sons [Ham, Shem, and Japheth]
and his wife and his sons' wives with him, went into the ark,
to escape the waters of the flood.


The word 'mouth' is often used to describe number of family members.
For example, the phrase 'One family of four mouths' means a family
with four members.
Four couples in Noah's family have a total of eight members.

Righteousness is to raise a lamb above us

Lamb (above) me = Righteousness



In the Old Testament people sacrifice lambs for their sins.
In the New Testament, Jesus died for our sins on the STAKE
to give us salvation, for God is just and loving.
The only way to salvation is to accept Jesus who paid for our sins.


LOTS MORE examples in the following links,
but AGAIN, this INSANE TIE to a SHORT,
Earth History Time Line,
BECAUSE, "They"
are working The DECEPTION to INSTALL "Their"
FALSE 'saviour'
:


http://www.cogwriter.com/news/old-te...early-genesis/

Sorry, seems "David Icke" does NOT WANT this read,
so best just copy the address into the address bar.

>http://www.wbschool.org/Chinese.swf<

Whereas this is still the ONLY PLACE that
"corrects" those "Falling away, Back to
Beggarly Ways"
and looks at what HAS
DECEIVED ALL
BUT THE VERY ELECT.

Classic
example of cultural assimilation, it doesn't exactly prove that the Old
testament or God's word is any more "real".
It's not entirely
farfetched because "Jews
and Judaism in China have had a long history. Jewish settlers are
documented in China as early as the 7th or 8th century CE, but may have
arrived during the mid Han Dynasty, or even as early as 231 BCE[1].

Relatively isolated communities developed through the Tang and Song
Dynasties (7-12th cent. CE) all the way through the Qing Dynasty (19th
cent.), most notably in the Kaifeng Jews (the term "Chinese Jews" is
often used in a restricted sense to refer to these communities). "

"It has been asserted by some that the Jews who have historically
resided in various places in China originated with the Lost Ten Tribes
of the exiled ancient Kingdom of Israel who relocated to the areas of
present-day China.
Traces of some ancient Jewish rituals have been observed in some places.

One well-known group was the Kaifeng Jews, who are purported to have
traveled from Persia to India during the mid-Han Dynasty and later
migrated from the Muslim-inhabited regions of northwestern China (modern
day Gansu province) to Henan province during the early Northern Song
Dynasty (960-1127).[8]"


"In The Kaifeng Stone Inscriptions: The Legacy of the Jewish Community
in Ancient China, Tiberiu Weisz, a teacher of Hebrew history and Chinese
religion, presents his own translations of the 1489, 1512, and 1663
stone stelae left by the descendants of the Kaifeng Jews. Based on the
new info gleamed from this translation, Weisz theorizes after the
Babylonian exile of the sixth century BCE, disenchanted Levites and
Kohanim parted with the Prophet Ezra and settled in Northwestern India.
Sometime prior to 108 BCE, these Jews had migrated to Gansu province,
China and were spotted by the Chinese general Li Guang, who was sent to
expand the borders of Han Dynasty China.
Centuries later, the Jews were expelled from China proper during the Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution (845-46), where they lived in the region of Ningxia. Weisz believes they
later returned to China during the Song Dynasty when its second
emperor, Song Taizong, sent out a decree seeking the wisdom of foreign
scholars.[7] "

"The inscription states that the Jews came to China from India during
the Han Dynasty period (2nd century BCE-2nd century CE). It cites the
names of 70 Jews with Chinese surnames, describes their audience with an
unnamed Song Dynasty emperor, and lists the transmission of their
religion from Abraham down to the prophet Ezra. The second tablet,
dating from 1512 (found in the synagogue Xuanzhang Daojing Si) details
their Jewish religious practices. The third, dated 1663, commemorates
the rebuilding of the Qingzhen si synagogue and repeats information that
appears in the other two steles.[7]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._Jews_in_China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

Just a thought.

NO, a red herring, INTENDED to discourage readers
going to the link that DIF would NOT ALLOW me
to post THE CONTENT OF, such as THIS KEY POINT:


Chinese characters apparently predate Moses:

…the ancient Chinese people were quite familiar with the
same record which the Hebrew Moses is popularly given credit for

writing some 700 to 1,000 years later. Imagine this information
being stored in special characters that were in use hundreds of years
before the first page of the Bible was written!
(Kang C.H.,
Nelson E.R. The Discovery of Genesis: How the Truths of Genesis Were
Found Hidden in the Chinese Language. Concordia Publishing House, St.
Louis, 1979, p. 5)


Notice that
the development of Chinese characters

predates the writing of the Book of Genesis.

Thus, the Chinese characters seem to provide
an ‘independent’ account that verifies
portions of the accounts in Genesis.


http://www.cogwriter.com/news/old-te...early-genesis/

http://www.wbschool.org/Chinese.swf

Then, 12 hours later...

David Icke's Official Forums
Most users ever online was 8,820,

29-09-2010 at 02:08 PM.


...oh, and the NEXT PAGE Smile Wink :

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=86338&page=47

is pretty well where
regular, INDEPENDENT readers
found what they needed to
GET and WARN OTHERS OFF,
trusting any BLOODY Thing that
DAVID ICKE OFFICIAL FORUMS PEDDLE.


Chinese Characters and Early Genesis

COGwriter

Is there any evidence that Chinese people ever knew about the early
accounts in the Book of Genesis, such as a devil in the Garden of Eden,
the great flood, or the Tower of Babel?

Yes, as some evidence seems to exist in early Chinese writings.

Notice for example that an ancient Chinese character for Devil indicates a knowledge of the account in Genesis:

Devil= Secret Person Garden

Sadly, Eve seemed to believe the devil as she desired to benefit from the fruit of the tree that was prohibited:

So when the woman saw that
the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree
desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate (Genesis
3:6).

God decided
later to prohibit the second tree lest Eve and others desired it so much
that they would go for it as well (see Genesis 3:22-24).

Notice the symbol for the Chinese word lán for desire or greed is a combination of the symbols for woman and two trees:


Desire,
Greed
= Woman Trees

After succumbing to temptation, humans noticed that they were naked:

Then
the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were
naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.
(Genesis 3:7).

Notice that the Chinese symbol for being
naked has to do with clothing, one tree (the one that Adam and Eve were
originally told not to eat from perhaps), and a garden with four
irrigation canals:


Naked= Clothing Tree Garden

After Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden they had children. On of their sons was Abel, who raised and sacrificed sheep:

Now Abel was a
keeper of sheep…Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of
their fat. And the LORD respected Abel and his offering (Genesis 4:2,4).

Notice what a Chinese character meaning righteous is made of:

Righteous(ness)= Sheep Hand Lance

Interestingly, the New Testament account of Abel refers to:

…the blood of righteous Abel (Matthew 23:35).

Notice how the Chinese symbol agrees with the New
Testament account that essentially the sacrifice of sheep (by Abel, for
example) was righteous.

Since Christ was our Passover lamb sacrificed us, and
that through Him we attain righteousness at least one has speculated
that perhaps that is why the following symbol for righteousness was
somehow chosen (since the combination of the symbol for hand and lance can mean us):

Righteous(ness)= Sheep I, Us

And while it is NOT likely
that this was determined by the Chinese after Jesus’ crucifixion, it is
a fact that Abel and Noah, who the Bible calls righteous, sacrificed
clean animals such as sheep.

Many know that Chinese
history contains an account of some type of worldwide flood. And there
may be a couple of aspects of it preserved in its characters.

Notice a couple of statements in the Bible concerning the flood:

Then the LORD said to Noah,
“Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen that
you are righteous before Me in this generation. (Genesis 7:1).

…in the days of Noah, while
the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were
saved through water (1 Peter 3:20).

A Chinese word chuán for a type of boat is:

Boat= 8 Mouth Little Boat,
Vessel


It may be of interest to note that one of the Chinese symbols for flood (chong)
is a combination of an inverted symbol meaning “first Earthly branch”
and eight (the term for eight may instead mean “person remaining”"–that
of itself is interesting as that the symbol for eight and “person
remaining” look about the same–recall that on the ark there were only
eight persons remaining alive).

After the flood, humans stayed together and built a tower:

Now the whole earth had one language and
one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. Then
they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them
thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar.
And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose
top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be
scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.” (Genesis 11:1-4).

But God did not care for this:

But the LORD came down to see the city
and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the LORD said,
“Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is
what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be
withheld from them. Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” (Genesis
11:5-7).

It is highly likely that when people saw
others speaking foreign languages, that they thought that somehow
something at this tower affected their mouths. Notice the following
Chinese symbol of a tower.

Tower= Grass Clay Mankind 1 Mouth

The tower of Babel was built with bricks
(grass and clay) and humans originally had one language (or mouth). It
is possible that this symbol is showing that the ancient Chinese
recognized a connection to the biblical tower of Babel.

The Bible shows that after God confused the languages in Babel that He scattered humans all over:

So the LORD scattered them abroad from
there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city.
Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the LORD confused the
language of all the earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of all the earth (Genesis 11:8-9).

The Bible also mentions:

To Eber were born two sons: the name of
one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s
name was Joktan (Genesis 10:25).

Now whether it was just
the scattering of humans that occurred in Peleg’s time, or that the
earth had continental divisions at that time is not completely clear.
What is clear, however, is that humans did separate essentially by
language and ethnicity thousands of years ago.

Chinese characters apparently predate Moses:

…the ancient Chinese people were quite familiar with the
same record which the Hebrew Moses is popularly given credit for
writing some 700 to 1,000 years later. Imagine this information
being stored in special characters that were in use hundreds of years
before the first page of the Bible was written!
(Kang C.H.,
Nelson E.R. The Discovery of Genesis: How the Truths of Genesis Were
Found Hidden in the Chinese Language. Concordia Publishing House, St.
Louis, 1979, p. 5)

Notice that the development of Chinese
characters predates the writing of the Book of Genesis. Thus, the
Chinese characters seem to provide an ‘independent’ account that
verifies portions of the accounts in Genesis.

Continuing, the authors of the previous citation go so far as to state:

Moreover we believe that the Chinese actually employed
this historical knowledge as one small facet in the process of building
their written language. The significance of this claim is broad. But
most important, it appears to us to give support and added acceptance of
the much slandered account of Biblical Genesis (Ibid).

Thus, the existence of these Chinese
characters should be a comfort to the Chinese that their ancestors did
have some type of biblical witness. These characters should also help
modern believers understand that even in a land as removed as it is from
the Middle East, the Chinese did know about various portions of the
Genesis account. And since their characters were developed prior to
Moses writing Genesis, their very existence provides additional
verification that the events were known for many thousands of years.

The above information and more is included in the article China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 1: Genesis and Chinese Characters .

Other articles of possibly related interest may include:

China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 2: The Sabbath and Some of God’s Witness in China When did Christianity first come to China? And is there early evidence that they observed the seventh day sabbath?
China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 3: China in Prophecy What is Ahead for China? What will happen to nearly all the Chinese?

Originally Posted by delinquentgrrl

How is 'Moses leading Israel out of
Egypt' a lie? The Talmud, which includes the Tanakh (and the Torah)
states "According to the Talmud,[2] much of the contents of the Tanakh
were compiled by the "Men of the Great Assembly" by 450 BCE, and have since remained unchanged.

As you know the Tanakh includes the Torah (the 5 books commonly referred to as 'The five books of Moses' = The Old testament.

In the Old Testament it is written that Moses led them from Egypt
,
so how is this a lie if you claim the Old testament is God's word? And
for what purpose? If the Jews were led of out of America what
signifigance does this hold? What truth is being hidden? What does it
all mean? And does the use of a lunar calendar change the nature of the
events?

Just curious. Thanks!


No, Moses led Israel out of MITSRAYIM.
Every time you read Egypt, it IS MITSRAYIM.
'They' decided to CHANGE MITSRAYIM to EGYPT.

Like they CHANGED PERATH to Euphrates.

Now PERATH was ONE of the FOUR Rivers
of THE SUPER-CONTINENT, EDEN AGE.

So, it can NOT be that piddling little Euphrates.

Likewise, every time you read NILE it is RIVER,
Nile CANALS is RIVER CANALS, and THE AMAZON
HAS ALWAYS BEEN GREATER IN LENGTH and VOLUME
than the Nile, curiously a FACT 'they' only recently
ADMITTED, DESPITE LONG HAVING KNOWN.

GOD'S LIVING WORD IS DESCRIPTIVE and DESCRIBES
THE BEGINNING AS IT WAS and SCIENCE AGREES.

To DENY GOD'S WORD is to ALSO DENY what SCIENCE
has finally discovered, and to admit to what science found,
BUT STICK to the LYING TIME-LINE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED
AROUND EGYPT and it's DEATH WORSHIPING RELIGION,
BASED ON, "THE JEWS WHO ARE NOT JEWS, BUT DO LIE,
BUT ARE OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN",
MAKES A "KNOW NOTHING FOOL" OUT OF GOD.


ALSO, 450 BCE, WAS RECENT GLOBAL HISTORY, WELL PAST
THE AGES OF ANCIENT KINDS OF ANIMALS, i.e. 'dinosaurs',
DURING NOAH'S AND JOB'S TIME. NOAH at least living DURING
the AGE of The SUPER-CONTINENT.

God told us to STUDY WHAT IS in the WHOLE WORLD
and let SCRIPTURE INTERPRET SCRIPTURE, NOT MAN,
in order to SEE that HE DID TELL US EVERYTHING FROM
THE BEGINNING.

450 BC is ALREADY AFTER things like CHINA'S GREAT WALL
being constructed to CUT PEOPLE OFF FROM THEIR COMMON
HISTORY and so SEE The TRUTH of GOD'S WORD, and AFTER
the the Middle eastern King called Darius in IMITATION of
THE DARIUS of the DIVIDED IN TWO LAND of
The BIRD of PREY, ANCIENT PERSIA, being The AMERICAS.

The FIRST MODERN image from Wiki's page on
The AZTECS:



Sculpture commemorating
the moment when
Aztecs found the sign
from the god Huitzilopochtli.


...and funny, but Today's
LEAD IMAGE from MURDOCH'S NEWS...

(as so many, GONE")

SEE, "THEY" have ALWAYS KNOWN and have
CONSPIRED and COLLUDED to KEEP IT SECRET
and so LEAD US TO ACCEPT The BEAST as 'god',
BASED on the RECENT, LYING 'history' of FAKE
'time-lines' LITERALLY CONSTRUCTED to 'support'
MODERN North African Egypt as being the ANCIENT
MITSRAYIM of GOD'S LIVING, TRUE WORD.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathanstaar

Vera I hope you did not regard my last post as anything negative toward you (or faraday for that matter)

It was actually to point out something about warnings of 'being led astray' that many often like to warn about.

A declaration of my spiritual independence if you will.


QUESTIONS NEVER BOTHER ME!

QUESTIONS ARE GOOD!

QUESTIONS ARE WHAT PREVENTED ME
FROM BUYING INTO THE UNIVERSAL (Catholic)
CHURCH I WAS RAISED IN.

QUESTIONS had me GET MY PRIEST TO ACCEPT
that I WOULD NOT MARRY, PROMISING MY CHILDREN
TO "The CATHOLIC CHURCH" but PROMISE to TEACH
THEM to KEEP THE FIRST COMMANDMENT, FIRST,
and ALWAYS SEEK GOD'S TRUTH and WILL ABOVE MAN'S.

I only get angry when UNKNOWN "names" LIE
that I'm lying and have a "Secret Agenda", when
"They" KNOW THE OPPOSITE to be TRUE.

And I Only Wish, more readers would
QUESTION my OPPONENTS
as DEEPLY as I'm always questioned,
so I could get on with REVEALING MORE
of what HAS been HIDDEN and LIED about.

And while TALKING WITH YOU let me also explain,
that I will take all names as real, independent people,
and treat them as such unless and until I KNOW otherwise.

Which also means that though I OFTEN SUSPECT a 'name'
of pretending to be friendly, "I" can't publicly "Out" 'them'
if I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW, but will TEST 'them' by posting
on a TACTIC 'they' are using and let 'them' OUT THEMSELVES
in 'their' VIOLENT, OVER REACTIONS to a GENERAL topic
'they' DO RECOGNIZE as PERSONALLY DESCRIPTIVE.

Which brings me to a KEY REQUEST I make of ALL:

IF THE JACK BOOT FITS,
EVEN IF IT'S YOURS,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR IT!

YOU CAN CHOOSE to THROW IT OUT
RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO
KICK THE HEADS OF THE INNOCENT,
WEAK, ALONE and POWERLESS.



...So, do you WANT to find
THE
KEY of DAVID?





...and THOUSANDS of Years of 'art'=PROPAGANDA
SELLING FALSE HISTORIES, that PREVENTS folk
from SEEING WHERE WE ARE AT, IN THE ACTUAL
TIME LINE of THE CREATOR GOD...



(nice of Google to give me this image
FOR; "location location location" Wink)
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Quote:



Originally Posted by faraday



The same old,same old.

Nothing new here.

Only those that can interpret the bible can 'hear' God.




No, quite the contrary, something so NEW,
that it Literally Scares 'The Hell' out ALL SIDES.

God said that He would BLIND the people and Rulers,
until those end TIMES, when people would do much travelling,
and have much knowledge and be REELING DRUNK with Power,
and STUBBORNLY Refuse to see what it all added up to.

For starters, the end TimeS, Plural; Times, Times, Times and a Half,
3 years, a year is like a thousand years, day, period of time, season.
It is Not "Like the Movies", it is Not like ALL The Churches, All The Religions,
All The Atheists, All the Anti-Christs, ALL THE CONSPIRACY 'Theorists',
AGREE TO MIS-Tell. It's not something we're waiting for, but something
we have already been living under for AT LEAST 2 1/2 Thousand years.
And more likely, longer than the years of that Jewish Calendar...that's
the area I'd hoped "The Numbers Guy" would help on ...

...anyway, The Whole World of ALL OPPOSING SIDES Have
LONG Agreed on the Egypt Lie, and have NEVER ALLOWED
the RE-READING/STUDY of Biblical LOCATIONS,
AFTER ALL THE NEW LANDS were RE-Discovered.
WHY?
When God CLEARLY, talks about, ALL The EARTH, ALL The LAND,
Before, During and After The ONE Piece of Land, DIVIDED,
ALL The Things Good Modern Science and
sonar mapping and such things AGREE with.
Why, when I ask, 'Why?', do I get attacked by All Sides?

All I'm saying is that when you read scripture with
The Whole Globe, ALL the EARTH, All The LAND, All PEOPLES,
Over All TIMES, AS God DESCRIBES, IN MIND, It ALL MAKE SENSE,
so why do 'They' All hate that NEW way of Seeing?
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Post  true lilly on Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:45 am

Originally Posted by vera susa



... so while the world's falling apart and exploding,
in more ways than a few, OZ has been SHORING UP,
inside and out ... just one brief over view, of one sectors work:


http://www.csiro.au/news/MediaCentre.html

*
The corrosion resistance of Quench Coat equals that of chromate
coatings while maintaining the freshly galvanised appearance. (CSIRO)
Eco-friendly metal coating replacement for chromate

CSIRO has developed a novel coating technology, "Quench Coat", to
protect galvanised products from 'white rust' – the form of zinc oxide
that tarnishes freshly galvanised coatings, making them look dull.
*
A creek crossing in the Burdekin River catchment, west of Townsville.
CSIRO takes first hard look at Contested Country


The first comprehensive and critical examination of Australia’s
local and regional management of land, water and biodiversity was
released today in a book published by CSIRO.
*
Electron micrograph of Hendra virus.
Breakthrough in fight against Hendra virus


There has been a breakthrough in the fight against the deadly
Hendra virus following the development of a treatment which shows great
potential to save the lives of people who become infected with the
virus.
*
A picture of Dr John O'Sullivan.
Nation’s top awards to CSIRO scientists


Two CSIRO scientists have been honoured at Australia’s premier science awards – the Prime Minister's Prizes for Science.
*
A crop of wheat with white heads caused by Fausarium crown rot
Rot resistant wheat could save farmers millions


CSIRO researchers have identified wheat and barley lines resistant
to Crown Rot – a disease that costs Australian wheat and barley farmers
$79 million in lost yield every year.
*
A picture of a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) vehicle.
Plugging into an electric vehicle revolution


A road trial of plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), which
could one day end up in every Australian driveway, is underway.
*
A picture of a lobster diver.
World interest in Australian fishery impact test


An Australian method for assessing the environmental impact of
marine fisheries has caught the eye of fishery management agencies
worldwide.
*
A picture of The Minister for
Innovation, Industry, Science and Research,

Senator the [b]Hon Kim Carr

launching the
Science and Industry Endowment Fund.
Endowment Fund to support ICT research[/b]

An initial round of grants from the rejuvenated Science and
Industry Endowment Fund will enhance Australia’s world-leading research
capabilities in wireless technologies and help to address the nation’s
need for more skilled scientists.
*
Dr Joanne Daly.
Ag. Head chairs international biodiversity body


CSIRO’s Group Executive Agribusiness, Dr Joanne Daly, has been
appointed Chair of the Governing Board of the Global Biodiversity
Information Facility (GBIF) based in Copenhagen.
*
An image of a marine animal.
Finding the ASX200 for marine ecosystems


Researchers are building the environmental equivalent of the
ASX200 as a means of monitoring the health of Australian marine
ecosystems.
*
Study participants (L-R): Kiara and Jenny Petrus
and Christian Masson-Forbes.
Helping parents improve their childrens’ health


CSIRO scientists in Adelaide are undertaking a study to test
simple strategies to help parents get their kids off the couch and
provide them with healthier foods.
*
An aerial photo of different crop fields on a farm.
World Food Day – CSIRO rising to the challenges


Australian farmers feed over 60 million people a day and CSIRO
research aims to maintain and grow this productivity in the face of the
significant challenges of greenhouse gas abatement, climate change and
land degradation.
*
Dr Cathy Foley
CSIRO innovator wins NSW Telstra Business Women award


Dr Cathy Foley from CSIRO’s Materials Science and Engineering
Division was today awarded the NSW Nokia Business Innovation Award in
the Telstra Business Women’s Awards.
*
CSIRO scientists view a 3D model of Australia's marine territory.
Study predicts seabed response to climate change


CSIRO scientists have produced the first preliminary predictions
of the potential impact of climate change on the Australian seabed.
*
Dr Ben Hoffmann working on the management of African Big-headed Ants on Lord Howe Island.
Reward for fight against ant invaders


African Big Headed, Yellow Crazy, Tropical Fire and Singapore ants
are only small foot soldiers, but vast colonies of these invasive
insects are wreaking havoc throughout northern Australia - causing major
environmental, economical and social damage.
*
The WLAN Project Team (L-R): Mr Graham Daniels, Dr John O'Sullivan, Dr Terry Percival, Mr Diet Ostry, Mr John Deane.
CSIRO honours wireless team


Australian inventiveness lies at the heart of how millions of
people now use wireless networks to access information on a myriad of
portable devices.
*
The five CSIRO medals and awards
CSIRO Medal winners


From the behaviour of invasive ants in northern Australia, finding
black holes in space, to making better wireless computer networks,
CSIRO has recognised the outstanding work of some of its scientists and
staff today at a ceremony in Melbourne.
*
CSIRO Medal for Lifetime Achievement recipient
Dr Ezio Rizzardo (on the left) and the RAFT polymerisation team.
A lifetime revolutionising polymers and radio waves


Polymers make up many parts of our modern life; from the scent in
laundry detergents, to coatings on houses, to key aspects in
electronics, to new and improved medical therapies.
*
Image of sun rising, a chunk of ice in foreground.
Earth on the edge


Thousands of scientists will meet in Melbourne in mid-2011 to
discuss the state of the Earth, including its climate and atmosphere,
water resources and oceans, volcanoes and polar regions.
*
The front cover of the CSIRO Annual Report 2008-09.
Annual Report shows breadth and depth of CSIRO science

The CSIRO 2008-2009 Annual Report tabled in Parliament today
reflects an organisation responding well to complex national challenges
in population growth, climate change, water and energy security and the
health and wellbeing of Australians.
*
Scientist releasing water sensor into the ocean.
New manufacturing opportunities -
sensors to protect marine and freshwater ecosystems


An ambitious new research collaboration designed to track the
health of Australia’s marine and freshwater ecosystems was launched
today.
*
Four people sitting around a table thinking about climate change
Take the lead on energy and climate change in your community


A new community project is offering South Australian residents the
opportunity to tackle issues around climate change and help people
reduce their carbon footprint.
*
Female sitting in front of three computer screens.
New analysers to unlock mineral value


Machine-mounted sensors, being developed through CSIRO Minerals
Down Under Flagship, could help locate ore deposits, characterise the
mining environment, and differentiate ore grades.
*
Satellite images near Culcairn in NSW showing the topography
with vegetation (left) and without vegetation (right).
The naked truth about our landscape


Australia has been stripped bare of vegetation to expose the surface that lies beneath.
*
Trials conducted by Will Bignell as part of his PhD research
have shown there is good potential for boosting levels of
long-chain omega-3 oils in lamb through breeding programs
and tailored feeding.
Grains and lamb offer new sources of omega-3


CSIRO research on grains and lamb aimed at developing new dietary
sources of long-chain omega-3 oils will be presented at the World
Congress on Oils and Fats in Sydney this week.

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.... then why can't the conspiracy industry
feature the fact that God told us about
all this prosperity and security, from the beginning,
and when you read His word, as written, from the
Super-continent age of Noah, with 7 pairs of the kinds
of prehistoric, genetic ancestors ...well when you read
the actual time line that's written, you can see where we're at now.
There is no nile euphrates, ethiopia, egypt,
none of that stuff, but there is Job in dinosaure age ...
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Post  true lilly on Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:52 am

Puquios is a name given to
an old system of aqueducts
near the city of Nazca, Peru.



...but with all our world class science and engineering
we 'can't' build modern, better versions...yeah, right...






And TODAY example of
WIKI'S ...

Featured picture: June 14, 2009
Aqueduct of Segovia

The Aqueduct of Segovia in Segovia, Spain,
is one of the most significant and
best-preserved
monuments left by the Romans
on the Iberian Peninsula.

It was likely constructed at
the end of the 1st century AD,

and transported water for centuries
from the Fuente Fría River
over a distance of roughly
32 kilometres
(20 mi)
before reaching the city,
only having been decommissioned recently....
...because it made selling that
OZ is a desert LIE a bit harder...maybe...


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Post  true lilly on Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:11 am

palomino wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/quantum/info/jinmi2tx.htm



JINMIUM is a name associated with controversy. It’s the name of an
aboriginal site in the Northern Territory and it may have been occupied
for more than 100,000 years - that’s at least twice as long as any other
place in Australia.


The claim upsets current thinking about the
arrival of the first Australians although the uproar is as much to do
with the techniques used to date Jinmium as with the question of its
antiquity. But as you’ll see tonight there’s more to Jinmium than just
its age.

The headlines are where people first heard the name Jinmium. ...And with
them the controversy and exaggerations began.... fuelled by newspaper
rivalry and the claims themselves, namely that signs of human occupation
had dated back to 116,000 years. The target of abuse was principal
scientist, Richard Fullagar.

“You read in the newspapers,” he said, “ that Richard Fullagar argues
that humans have been in Australia 176,000 years ago and stuff like
that. And so there's then a kind of mis-information going on which
clearly clouds the views of many people and fellow scientists as well
I'm sure. You're not quite sure what to believe.”

The accepted belief has been that people may have reached Australia’s
northern shores 60,000 years ago. The evidence had come from a hundred
kilometres inland. Stone tools had been discovered buried deep in
ancient sand.

Then, the papers told us, Jinmium, on the eastern margins of the
Kimberley, may have had human visitors 116,000 years ago, double any
previous claims. If the dates are correct it challenges a number of
theories. Among them, the story of how all modern humans colonised the
world.

The most popular explanation begins in Africa nearly 2 million years ago
with the spread of Homo erectus, a more primitive species of human,
through Europe and Asia. Although these people reached the edge of the
Pacific they didn’t have the brain power to make the sea voyage to
Australia. That was left to taller, smarter Homo sapiens, the more
modern humans who left Africa between 150 and 200,000 years ago. Along
the way they replaced Homo erectus. At least that’s what the
“Out-of-Africa” theory proposes.

But there are some like archaeologist Dr Alan Thorne who believe only
one species of human is involved. For him, so-called Homo erectus was
Homo sapiens and could have reached Australia at any time. He’s quick to
point out the Jinmium dates might be a problem for the Out-of-Africa
theory.
Alan explains. “Certainly if the dates for human occupation do go beyond
100,000 years, certainly if they were 150,000 years then the people who
propose a recent “out of Africa” scenario have got very big problems;
because they would have to have these people in Africa inventing the
bicycle so they can peddle round to Java to catch the first rafts to
Australia. For me there is no problem. It can be any date at all because
for me people were turning into modern humans everywhere. And therefore
whenever the modern humans who lived in south east Asia decided to
paddle their canoes or rafts or whatever and landed in Australia and set
up shop here that's fine by me.”

But as the team on the Jinmium dig discovered it wasn’t just the claims
of deep antiquity that caused controversy. As Richard Fullagar put it,
“The debate about Jimnium, if we can call it that, has hinged very much
on a dating game; between luminescence dating in particular between
optical dating and thermal luminescence dating and in many ways between
individuals, between Bert Roberts and David Price; and ah in some ways
that kind of debate clarifies particular issues and it certainly has for
me, a number of issues and I can’t see that as being a bad thing.”
David Price, a geo-chronologist at the University of Wollongong, did the
principal dating at Jinmium using a technique known as TL or
thermoluminescence. It uses a kind of natural clock built into grains of
ordinary sand to determine when they were last exposed to sunlight.
Bert Roberts, of Melbourne’s La Trobe University, on the other hand
favours a slightly different (and more modern) technique called OSL or
optically stimulated luminescence.

These days, world-edge prehistory can’t be done without sophisticated
dating technology and it’s become critically important to choose the
best technique for the job. The burden of proof to establish antiquity
with any degree of certainty has become much harder.

The bottom line here is that Bert believes the dates for Jinmium are
wrong. And his reasons are to do both with the technique used and
something unusual about Jinmium itself. “Well my concern with Jimnium is
very similar to a site which I've looked at in Cape York.” Bert said.
“This is a site that has very soft bedrock underneath the site and there
we dated it even with optical dating, OSL methods. And we found that
you get ages that could be greatly distorted if you have contaminant
grains getting re-worked from decomposed bedrock or rubble into the soil
profile even a few grains is enough to greatly distort your age, from
30,000 years to 120,000 years lets say. Now at Jimnium it’s a very
similar situation - very soft bedrock rubble and a very good chance that
you can move these grains into the soil profile. And that will greatly
distort the age and it will always be to increase the age. And given
that the interest in Jimnium was the extraordinarily old ages they've
obtained we have to be absolutely sure that it’s not corrupted in
exactly the same way as it was at Cape York. “
Suppose your sample contains just ten grains of sand and nine of them
were exposed to sunlight 2,000 years ago. But the tenth grain comes from
inside some soft rock that has crumbled and it’s been out of the light
for half a million years. Thermoluminescence can’t pick out the ring in.
It will tell you the whole sample is 50,000 years old. David Price is
aware of the problem but doesn’t think the Jinmium samples were
affected. “If that had been the case,” he points out, “one would expect
it to be a reasonably random process and you'd expect to see ages that
stick out rather obviously half way down the profile. But this wasn't in
fact the case. In this situation we have ages that range from something
like 2,000 years at the top of the excavation trench down to a 176,000
at the base of it and in between the ages all fall into sequence.“

Bert Roberts remains unconvinced. He is currently redating samples from
Jinmium using a technique he’s devised that can date individual grains
of sand. He says, “The only way to actually sort out the problem is to
look at single grains of sand because a grain of sand will either be the
correct date or it might be a contaminant grain. It will divide itself
in the good guys and the bad guys.”

Bert doesn’t expect to have the single grain dates for Jinmium until the
end of 1997. But in the meantime some preliminary radiocarbon dates
from charcoal found at Jinmium have recently been obtained which hint
that it’s much younger than the published thermoluminescence estimates.
“It’s consistent,” Bert claims, “with just about every other
geomorphological evidence we have which are the sediment profiles was
extremely pale in colour, nothing like as orange or as red as we’d
expected for a hundred thousand year old sediment. The deposit itself is
very shallow and the sediment accumulation rate makes much more sense
with the carbon dates than it does with the TL dates. And also there's
no stratigraphic break between the two thousand year old level and the
supposed fifty thousand year old level. All of those three things
together suggest the carbon chronology is the right chronology for the
site.”
Some of the harshest criticism Richard Fullagar received was for
publishing the Jinmium dates before exhaustive testing had been. But as
he explains, “A large number of people knew about these ages
but we couldn't present any details without actually presenting a
paper. And it seems to me, well write the stuff up, and its open for
discussion; and why should the public not be involved in that sort of
thing as well. I mean publication is really releasing scientific
information, not just to your colleagues but also to the rest of the the
rest of the world. And it seemed a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Of
course you cop the criticism and you wear it and that's what's
happened. I mean it’s how science works.”

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So just as ISRAEL migrated after being
driven out of OZ,
for FORGETTING GOD and What He TAUGHT...


Science News

Rediscovering
The Dragon's Paradise Lost:
Komodo Dragons

Most Likely Evolved In Australia,
Dispersed To Indonesia


ScienceDaily (Oct. 1, 2009) —
The world's largest living lizard species,
the Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis),
is vulnerable to extinction and yet
little is known about its natural history.


New research by a team of
palaeontologists and archaeologists from
Australia, Malaysia and Indonesia,
who studied fossil evidence from
Australia, Timor, Flores, Java and India,

shows that Komodo Dragons most likely
evolved in Australia and
dispersed westward to Indonesia.


The Komodo Dragon is the world's largest lizard,
growing to an average length of 2 to 3 meters.
It is found almost entirely on the Indonesian islands
of Rinca, Flores and Komodo.
(Credit: iStockphoto/Alan Tobey)

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Originally Posted by vera susa



Paris under fire

Paris under fire


Paris Hilton criticised

for lavish shopping spree
in Australia

Paris Hilton spends
$140 a minute in Chapel Street,
Melbourne, shopping spree

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...013560,00.html

Gallery Paris Down Under

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...0141-1,00.html






Volcanoes of the
Mediterranean and western Asia
Find a Volcano by Region

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-j.gQb...1&tag=volcanic



And here it is, that "Fighting Over 'Holy Land' ",
BULLSHIT
that happenens when people in "CULTURED",
"EDUCATED", "COSMOPOLITAN" Cities,
start to feel vulnerable, and cast their eye about
for a better, safer land to migrate to...

The Middle East IS a BATTLE GROUND
(and Fore-Shadow/Reminder/Sign),
on Land FORSAKEN For The Purpose,
NOT Holy Land!


But then we have OZ,
snug on IT'S OWN, STABLE PLATE...

SEE the Islands that Israel Followed
The Formation Of
(Pillars of Smoke and Fire),
Across The Reed (shallow) Sea
From SOUTH AMERICA,
when the SUPER-CONTINENT Was
SEPARATING...

AS DESCRIBED IN OLD TESTAMENT HEBREW,
and SCIENCE AGREES WITH...

SEE the Channel/RIVER GOING STRAIGHT DOWN
(JORDAN), between OZ & NZ...

empties out around where
MUTTON BIRDS are
THERE FOR THE PICKING UP,
something desiredafter a diet of,
"MANNA" 'from 'heaven'
(our atmosphere/First of 3 heavens),
"SPIRALEENA",
(fine, dry, krill, plankton, seaweeds etc.
High Protine Food of Whales),
kicked up and littly roasted on the HOT WINDS
of ALL THAT HEAVY VOLCANIC ACTIVITY...









06 Jun 2008: Another Worry in Iraq:
Drought in the Region’s Fertile Crescent
This enhanced image from a French satellite
shows the extent of a sizable area of drought
in parts of Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey




ANNA CREEK Cattle STATION
(just One of Sir Sidney KIDMAN'S

"The Line Is Coming!"
...DICK Cheney NOW OWNS
THIS, GHAN RAILWAY...
MANY LAND HOLDINGS/LEGACIES)
BIGGER THAN ISRAEL:

In EMERALD OZ

http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/De...tta_Track.aspx
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