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Post  Billy Ruben on Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:09 pm

Ciggy wrote:Oy, here's yer revelation, 'ave a decko!!!

great tits and spinal posture...would'nt know who the fuck she is...that's what cool,is all about.


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Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:34 am

Well, like most of my posts, the images have been removed
(mostly because I let those KEY Images, 'do most of the talking'),
but this page is timely and relevant now...as others have noticed
Wink
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

The following is only a little of what is relevant now
(much more at the link),
but I include it as, we also,
NOW have The Situation -
AFTER THE QUEEN HOSTED CHOGM
(COMMONWEALTH HEADS of GOVERNMENT MEETING)
IN AUSTRALIA -
that NOT ONLY CAN a
FEMALE INHERIT THE BRITISH CROWN
AHEAD of a Younger Male,
BUT, CATHOLICS ARE NO LONGER EXCLUDED!


Royal girls to get equal shot at crown - World news - Europe ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../royal-girls-get-equal-shot-crow... - United States
28 Oct 2011 – First-born daughters will have new right to inherit the throne ... able to pass her crown to her firstborn, Britain's Princess Victoria would have had
...

CatholicHerald.co.uk | Breaking news and opinion from the online ...
www.catholicherald.co.uk/
2 hours ago – Ban on British monarch marrying a Catholic to be lifted ...


Quote:
Originally Posted by anthony1965

You take paranoia to new heights Vera...
Just as you do with hypocrisy...
I see green is your colour of the moment...
And your usual switching of lower to upper case...
Wow!

WOW, alright...thanks again for more points
to educate folk about !

"Paranoia" is when you see plots that are NOT THERE.

"Hypocrisy" is PRETENDING to be who/what you are NOT.


Me, I AM ME, STILL HERE for ANYONE to FIND & QUIZ.
Still fighting with a HACKED SICK Old p.c. that OFTEN
causes my posts to NOT APPEAR as I'VE posted or as I
WANT to post, so I make do, and occasionally apologise
for the messiness, explaining why.

But aside from all that, I DO CHANGE MY 'style' BECAUSE
I AM A REAL INDIVIDUAL, NOT a 'Bot' or ACTOR trying to
"KEEP IN CHARACTER", and so I enjoy the FREEDOM of
expressing SEASONAL changes and PERSONAL moods.

And as for my use of upper and lower case, it's simply
quicker and easier on my SICK p.c. than to BOLD and
UNDERLINE KEY POINTS...and God Knows I have enough
Posting Time STOLEN through countless little 'hack attacks'!
...


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Originally Posted by vera susa



The heir and the spare:
royal brothers plot future

Why Prince William and Prince Harry
are in a historically unique position
in the modern monarchy.


Heir and the spare:
royal brothers plot future

ANDREW PIERCE
November 24, 2009 - 3:53PM


Princes William and Harry ....
in a historically unique position
in the modern monarchy.
Photo: Getty Images


When Prince Harry, proud in the red-collared coat of the Household
Cavalry, laid a wreath at the Cenotaph for the first time on Remembrance
Sunday it was another milestone in his coming of age as a senior member
of the Royal family. Unusually, he took precedence over Prince William,
a future King, because he was representing their father, who was
overseas with the Duchess of Cornwall.

But now the two princes have planted the first seeds of a long public
partnership with the creation of the "Charity Foundation of Prince
William and Prince Harry".

The venture underlines the closeness of the two brothers in a family not noted for its intimacy.

The Queen's four children rarely see each other socially and never
joined forces on specific charitable ventures like the one set up by
Prince William and Prince Harry, which has been registered at the
Charity Commission.

The brothers were always close but the devastating death of their
mother, Diana, Princess of Wales 12 years ago cemented their dependency
on each other. They are living together under the same roof for the
first time since they were teenagers, while they train at RAF Shawbury -
Prince Harry to fly Apache attack helicopters with the Army Air Corps
and Prince William to become a search-and-rescue pilot with the RAF.

Their decision to give at least a third of all the money raised by the
foundation to the welfare of the military, a cause championed by their
father and grandmother, will resonate with the public - a point not lost
on their advisers. The foundation is the most significant expansion of
their public profiles.

The truth is that both Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy.

For the first time since the reign of Queen Victoria both "the heir and the spare" are healthy adults.


Never before has there been a Prince of Wales as old as Prince Charles,
the longest-serving heir to the throne. The Queen, at 83, shows little
sign of slowing down.

Prince William knows his own position could also last decades if his father's health is as robust as his grandmother's.

It is why, at 27 and 25 respectively, the princes are already plotting
their future. They both want to avoid the mistakes made by their father,
who spent decades agonising about his role and purpose in public life.

The foundation will not just be a fitting testament to the legacy of
their mother; it is also a sign that the princes are ahead of their
father at the same stage in their apprenticeships.

The Prince of Wales set up the Prince's Trust, his first charitable
venture, with his $13,400 severance pay from the Royal Navy, while Prince William and Prince Harry could each have another decade in the forces.

Both the Queen and Prince of Wales hope the foundation is a further sign
that the princes have become more comfortable about the unenviable
prospect of devoting their entire lives to public duty in the often
unforgiving eye of the media.

Prince Harry, in particular, still blames the media for the death of his
mother, her car pursued by the Paris paparazzi into the Alma tunnel.

The expansion of their charitable ventures is also shrewd public relations.

Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at Oxford University, said:
"When the Queen came to the throne, about a third of the population
thought that the monarchy had been ordained by God. They don't think
like that now and they want it to be a utilitarian institution which has
to justify itself and to show the monarchy is relevant and practical.
It's why the princes have embarked on this course.

"It's not easy. There is no prescribed role for the heir to the throne,
let alone the son of the heir and his brother. The Prince of Wales has
become the first to find a proper role for himself and Prince William is
clearly following in his footsteps."

A number of decisions have already been taken by the young princes. They
will studiously avoid courting political controversy, unlike their
father who at 22 was questioning Harold Wilson's government over the
fate of Atlantic salmon years before declining fish stocks figured on
the political agenda.

In the ensuing four decades or so as the warm-up act to the Queen, the
Prince of Wales has been demonised as the adulterer in his disastrous
marriage, criticised for meddling in government affairs and attacked as a
hypocrite who does not practise what he preaches on climate change
because of his lavish lifestyle and penchant for flying the world in
chartered jets.

It is significant that Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, the princes'
increasingly influential private secretary, is a trustee of the charity.
He is helping to plan a more structured career path for them.

When Prince William leaves the RAF he will go on secondment to Parliament, probably in the Speaker's Office, to learn about the drafting of Bills, the parliamentary timetable, and the traditions of the Palace of Westminster, where he will one day make the King's speech.

He will also work in one of the Inns of Court alongside barristers, prosecutors, defence lawyers and judges.

"He will be head of the judiciary one day so he wants to have an understanding of it," said one aide.

He will also spend time working with his charities.

There is the possibility of a diplomatic posting such as Governor-General of Australia or Canada for either of the princes.

Their father was linked to the Canberra post in the 1970s. There would be advantages to a posting in Australia where Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, is an avowed republican.

It is one reason why Prince
William is representing the monarch for the first time overseas next
year in New Zealand and Australia, the most far flung parts of her
realm.


But diplomatic baubles are not in the gift of Clarence House.

"They are a matter for the Australian and Canadian governments. It would not be appropriate for the Royal family to say Prince William or Prince Harry is up for the job,"
an adviser said.

"However, if they were to offer it would be given very serious consideration."

Over the years, Prince William has taken soundings from a number of
eminent figures, including Dr David Starkey, the historian, whose books
on Henry VIII and Elizabeth I have been turned into successful television series.

They both talk endlessly to the Duke of Edinburgh, who has been a valuable source of advice.

One friend said: "No matter how good the advisers in the inner-circle,
the Queen and Prince of Wales give the best possible wise counsel."

Both princes have become closer to their father since the death of their
mother and have observed his restlessness, which was on show as
recently as last November in a documentary to mark his 60th birthday.

When asked if he enjoyed his job, he replied: "Bits of it."

It was their father who encouraged them to stay in the protective
custody of the RAF and the Household Calvary, where they can lead a life
as close as possible to normal, albeit with protection officers by
their side for 24 hours a day.

Unlike other members of the Royal family, they do not have equerries to
lay out their clothes and they do their own ironing in the rented
cottage they share near RAF Shawbury in Shropshire.

The flunkeys who will wait upon them hand and foot (and who will be
officers they have worked alongside) will not arrive until they go back
to civilian life.

Already attitudes are changing; these days most people address them as Prince William and Prince Harry or Your Royal Highness.

While they don't object to being called just William or Harry, even some staff who previously used their Christian names now address them by their titles.

It is another sign that they are turning into central figures in the
House of Windsor, exactly as the Queen and Prince of Wales intended.

In 18 months, the new foundation will be giving out grants, ensuring
that Prince William and Prince Harry increasingly hog the limelight at
the expense of older members of the Royal family, including their
father.

It is ironic, then, that for years the princes, who were the most
reluctant members of the Royal family - not least because of the manner
of the death of their mother - are now seen as the best assets of the
House of Windsor.

The foundation is another sign that the princes have started thinking
about how they can live up to their billing as the future of the House
of Windsor.

London Telegraph

Quote:
Originally Posted by palomino

Hey Vera Susa I might have a clue!

Today's poll

http://www.2ue.com.au/
Radio Station in Australia

2UE Webpoll GG Princes

Would you be happy to have
Prince Harry or Prince William
as our next Govenor General?

Yes 53%

No 46%

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa

Oh how funny!

So in this season when:

BALLARAT BASE Hospital
becomes part of
St John of God CATHOLIC Hospital

and

BALLARAT University
becomes part of
The CATHOLIC University

and we're told of

A CATHOLIC Chapel
IN THE ROYAL ANGLICAN Cathedral

and

The CATHOLIC Church
IS "TAKING BACK" ANGLICANS


we're WELCOMING
"HOLY ROYAL PRINCES" HOME...

is when I'm being RANTED AT
for reminding readers that
I've pointed at all this
all along

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa

Right, so we've had another round
of NWO AGENTS playing silly buggers
for want of counter arguments, tugging at
peoples National Pride and Fear and Loathing
of Government, in an attempt to replace Logical
Thinking with EMOTIONAL RESPONSES and so
keep them BLIND to The SECRET 'They' HIDE.

AUSTRALIA. GOD DESCRIBED IT,
From The Beginning.

GOD didn't lie about this Land.
GOD didn't lie about Anything.
GOD'S Promises STILL STAND.

And that IS THE BEST NEWS.

Oh sure, there is NOWHERE on Earth that isn't
suffering the results of corruptions that poison and kill,
but NO ONE can deny that it hasn't got worse
the further we've leaned away from Our Father's
Loving Advice and trusted man to 'save' us.
But again, only more evidence of what HE WARNED.

To help get your head around THE BIGNESS
of The TRUTH, simply use that 'GLOBAL VILLAGE'
idea and think of Australia as THE HOSPITAL
during a Time of War...suffering to, but
DEVOTEDLY PRESERVED.

But our Very FEW 'Capital' CITIES do need 'Thinning',


Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by vera susa

Dumplings move in on Melbourne;
chaos expected

* John Lethlean and Necia Wilden
* From: The Australian
* November 24, 2009 12:00AM

DUMPLING fever grips the eastern seaboard.


While Sydney has its branch of international chain Din Tai Fung,
Melbourne's slightly sexier equivalent, Hutong Dumpling Bar,
is about to open a second branch in Prahran.

Hutong, opposite Melbourne's venerable Flower Drum,
has been swamped since opening earlier this year.
The Commercial Road branch due to open next week
will include duck ovens.
Expect chaos and great Shanghai food.

IT sometimes seems Australia's best food
is outside the big cities.

In Tasmania, Daniel Alps in the Tamar Valley
(see The Weekend Australian Magazine, December 5)
is probably the state's finest restaurant
and now The 2010 Adelaide Food Guide has awarded
restaurant of the year to a regional champion:
Fino, at Willunga.
"We love real food that tastes like real food,
fresh, exciting and expressing flavour first
rather than fashion and design,"
said the judges.

On the basis of a visit last week, we agree.
Melburnians may remember chef David Swain
at St Kilda's Veludo in the 1990s;
seems he has made the right decision
returning to regional South Australia.

cont:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225802270327

This is an odd little report in that
putting KEY words and PHRASES together
that PROMOTE THIS LAND of PLENTY,
while WARNING of "SHANGHAI" CHAOS,
ARE "THE STORY"...further told in this mornings News
here...

</td> </tr> </table>
our Regional Cities and COUNTRY Towns need
Infrastructure Development and RE-POPULATING
and our OVER 40% WILDERNESS DOES NEED
WELL MANAGED DEVELOPMENT.

But we do NOT want "FOREIGN COUNTRIES"
sprouting in those currently too empty lands,
so, we NEED to ESTABLISH
AUSTRALIAN populations in those areas...

and one way is to simply TEMPT people OUT
of their lounge rooms and OUT to SEE and
FALL IN LOVE with All of This Most Glorious Land...



Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares

Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares


Flights snapped up as
Tiger Airways offers $2 fares


By Kate Schneider
news.com.au
November 24, 2009 07:24am

Tiger Airways

Tiger Airways is offering $2 fares
for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne,
Adelaide or the Gold Coast / Supplied


TIGER Airways is offering $2 airfares today
to celebrate the airline's second birthday in Australia.

There are currently 2000 tickets available for travel
on Tuesdays and Wednesdays between
May 5 and September 10 next year.

The fares apply for one-way travel from
Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast.

It includes taxes and charges but is subject to
a $6 fee per sector if booked with a credit card.

It includes hand luggage of up to seven kilograms only.

All bookings are non-refundable and non-transferable.

The sale ends tonight or until sold out.
Sexy when wet for Top End tourism


By Nigel Adlam

Northern Territory News

November 24, 2009 08:09am


TOURISTS are learning that
the wet season is sexy,
a leading Territory tourism figure said.


Top End Tourism president Sylvia Wolf said
visitors loved watching the pavements steam after rain.

”It's very sensual,” she said.
“Our wet season song should be Singing in the Rain.

Ms Wolf said
the big drop-off in tourist numbers at the end of the Dry
had not been anywhere near as sharp as usual this year.

She said this was because of years of hard work
educating people about the glories of the monsoon.
Ms Wolf said
Darwin had much to offer during the wet season –
lushness, fantastic storms and reasonably priced accommodation.


”Now that we've got more accommodation,
the rates are more reasonable.

”There's no ripping off the poor old tourists with inflated prices.”


Ms Wolf said the spectacular success of the
$100 million Darwin Convention Centre
had helped change the tourism season.


The season used to start in April and end abruptly in September.

The Territory Government and tourism industry
began promoting the “shoulder” months –
April-May and September-October –
a few years ago.

And now they are pushing the joys of the Wet.


”A lot of people think
you can't get around during the wet season,
but that's not true,
Ms Wolf said.

”We're educating people and many are not so afraid
to come here during the Wet.”

About 50 southern rural travel agents
visited Darwin earlier last month and
were pleasantly surprised at the weather
and sophistication of the city.


Bookings are already coming through
from that initial familiarisation tour.

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Re: Apocalypse=REVELATION, NOT 'the end of the world'...

Post  sharky on Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:45 am

el kabong wrote:
true lilly wrote: ............................... rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin
"tintin" is Knowingly, Willingly, MADLY
PREACHING FILTHY, MURDEROUS LIES.

And that he doesn't even bother to try to
explain away why he no longer admits
the truth of God's Word, as he once, so
boldly and publicly did
, is also, yet another
sign, of how very little respect he has for
all his readers. rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin



sheesh...don't look now Lilly; Queen of Bullshit..but so are you. thumbs up

You have got to learn to step outside of your overgrown, mammoth, gargantuan EGO and 'GIVE'. thumbs up

The Title of the Last Book in the Book of Yahweh is:

Chazuz Yahshua Hamashiach ashar natan lu ha Yahweh Abim bayid Malaku lao badu Yahchannan= Revealing the Revelation of Yahweh our Father through Yahshua Messiah His Son given to Yahchannan/John by the Malakh/Angel. thumbs up

Yahweh whispers to us in our pleasures; speaks to us in our consciences and shouts to us in our pains.

It has always been thus; it will always be so; The Well of Grief is fed by the Springs of Memory.



Those who set out to torment others often find themselves tormented by their own hand. This is the Devils Burden.

Each culture dresses the demon of its hatred in the garb of righteousness.

In humans, the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment and periodically they scream from the Dungeons of their minds demanding their freedom. thumbs up

In Hebraic thought; the whole Function of the Torah and the Testimony is to turn the Soul away from the things of the flesh. During our life our soul either attaches itself to the things of the flesh-to the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit; becoming a Child of the Light. Capiche?

The Biblical commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and restrictions on people limiting their free will but as a Divine Communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing Human Beings how Life Works and what to do and not do to make the best of it. [/size][/color][/font] thumbs up

Within the Mitzvot/Commandments are all the Instruction/Torah necessary for human conduct in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions and also to reap great benefits from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe. thumbs up

Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions. cheers

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Post  sharky on Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:46 am

el kabong wrote:Yahweh—The Alpha And Omega?

The phrase Alpha and Omega is written four times in the King James Version of the Scriptures. However, this phrase should only
have been written three times. It was added to the Scriptures once, in order to infer that it is Yahshua Messiah Who is Alpha and
Omega. Alpha and Omega are first written in:

Revelation 1:8, KJV—
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending...
This Scripture cannot be any clearer than it is. This is Yahweh speaking about Himself.
.Then, Alpha and Omega are again written in: Revelation 1:11, KJV—
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last...
After Yahchanan heard this being spoken, he turned around to see Who said it (verse 12), but saw Yahshua Messiah (verses 13-
.1.1.7). We can see this for ourselves in: Revelation 1:17-18—
17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as though dead. But He laid His right hand upon me, saying to me: Do not be afraid; I am the
first and the last.
18 I am He Who lives, but was dead. And: Behold, I am alive forevermore. HalleluYahweh! And I have the keys of death and Sheol;
the grave.


In other words Yahshua told Yahchanan not to be afraid, for He was alive forevermore. Yahshua did not identify Himself by that title Alpha and Omega..

Then, the phrase Alpha and Omega is again written in Revelation 21:6-7, which is speaking of Yahweh. Revelation 21:6-7, KJV—
6 And He said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the
fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh will inherit all things; and I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.

Yahweh is the Father, so it is definitely Yahweh Who is doing the speaking in this prophecy.

Now, we come to the Scripture in which the words Alpha and Omega were added, in order to say that Yahshua is the Alpha and Omega. This Scripture is Revelation 22:13. Revelation 22:16 undeniably states that these are Yahshua’s words.

Revelation 22:12-17, KJV—
12 And behold, I come quickly, and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, 117 the beginning, and the end, the first and last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the
cities.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16 I Jesus have sent mine Angel, to testify unto you these things in the Churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the
bright and morning star.
17 And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come. And let him that heareth, say, Come. And let him that is athirst, come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Notice Footnote Number 117, which has been circled in verse 13. The footnote of this Bible, shows that the Alexandrian (NU)
and the Vatican (M) texts omit the phrase, Alpha and Omega.
117 NU-Text and M-Text read the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Well, you might say, “What difference does it make that those three little words were added to this Scripture in Revelation 22:13?”

Never before has there been a true understanding of what Yahweh actually said when He identified Himself as the first and the last.

Since we know that Yahweh said that He is the first and the last in Revelation 21:6, let us thoroughly study the Scriptures to come to Yahweh’s truth.


In Revelation 1:8, the Being Who is speaking identifies Himself as the Almighty, Who we all know is Yahweh.
Following is an exact copy of this Scripture from The Concordant Version of the Sacred Scriptures, which one can see differs
greatly from the more modern Greek Interlinear:
Almost all English versions of the Bible render Revelation 1:8 in the same way the King James Version is translated.

Revelation 1:8, KJV—
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
By merely leaving this text as it is written, a tremendous understanding has been lost. However, if these two Greek letters are researched in detail, one will readily see that Yahweh is revealing much more about Himself than just being the beginning and the
end.



In the Greek alphabet, the letter alpha is the first letter, and omega is the last letter. However, in the Hebrew Language, in which
even the so-called New Testament Scriptures are now known to have been originally written, the letter aleph a is the first letter, and
the letter tau t is the last.



It is an admitted fact by the Biblical scholars that Revelation 1:8 should say in Hebrew:

I am the ALEPH and the TAU instead of I am the ALPHA and OMEGA .The Anchor Bible, Revelation Volume 38, page 379, gives us the explanation of this phrase.


8. the Alpha and the Omega. The Hebrew would be aleph and taw, probably standing respectively for Urim and
Thummim, the sacred lots of the high priest used to determine the will of God, and also meaning all “encompassing.”
Adam Clarke, in his Commentary, Volume 6, page 971, agrees that alpha and omega are aleph and tau in Hebrew.
[The beginning and the ending.] That is, as aleph or alpha is the beginning of the alphabet, so am I the author
and cause of all things; as tau or omega is the end or last letter of the alphabet, so am I the end of all things,
the destroyer as well as the establisher of all things.
We would not be any better off, however, if this Scripture (Revelation 1:Cool is properly rendered: “I am the Aleph and the Tau.”
We still would not know what Yahweh means when He identifies Himself by the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet,
unless this is further researched.
The letters aleph and tau must be researched to see if they do have a meaning, or message, to convey.
What the Bible translators did not realize (or they rejected) is that each individual Hebrew letter can be a word or phrase unto
itself, with a specific meaning. This is clearly pointed out by Fabre d’Olivet in his book, The Hebraic Tongue Restored. Dr. d’Olivet
gives clear, precise explanations of the meanings of each individual Hebrew letter, and what they point out or declare. On page 98
of his book, Dr. d’Olivet also states that knowing that each Hebrew letter has a meaning of its own, is the key to understanding the
Scriptures.
In reference to the letters aleph and tau, Dr. d’Olivet gives clear proof that these two letters make statements in their own right.
The first letter in the Hebrew alphabet, as Dr. d’Olivet points out from The Hebraic Tongue Restored on pages 95 and 287,
stands for unity.
a A.__This first character of the alphabet, in nearly all known idioms, is the sign of power and of stability. The ideas that it expresses
are those of unity...
a A. First character of the alphabet in nearly all known idioms. In its hieroglyphic acceptation, it characterizes unity, the central
point, the abstract principle of a thing. As sign, it expresses power, stability, continuity.
On pages 98 and 465 of this book, Dr. d’Olivet clearly points out that the letter tau, the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet, means
and stands for perfection.
t TH.Sign of reciprocity: image of that which is mutual and reciprocal. Sign of signs. Joining to the abundance of the character d,
to the force of the resistance and protection of the character f, the idea of perfection of which it is itself the symbol.

t TH. This character as consonant, belongs to the sibilant sound. As grammatical sign in the Hebraic Tongue, it is that of sympathy
and reciprocity; joining, to the abundance of the character r , to the force of resistance and protection of the character f, the idea
of perfection and necessity of which it is the emblem.


Incredible as it may sound, both single letters aleph and tau, are in themselves Hebrew words that have specific meanings.
As Clark in his Commentary, and the writers of The Anchor Bible, Revelation, have shown,the Alpha and Omega should have
been written: the Aleph and the Tau.



Now, with the true meanings of these Hebrew letters revealed, all can see the statement that Yahweh is actually making in these
Scriptures.


Revelation 1:8—
I am unity (Aleph) and perfection (Tau), the Beginning and the End, says Yahweh: Who is, and Who was, and Who is to come: the Almighty.

Other Scriptures verify that Yahweh is unity and perfection. Deuteronomy 6:4—
Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is One.
Yahshua Messiah, a begotten Son of Yahweh, Who was the Savior sent by Yahweh, taught that Yahweh is perfection.


Mattithyah 19:17—
But He said to him: Why do you question Me about righteousness? There is only One who is the standard of perfection, and that is . Yahweh; so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh.

Mattithyah 5:48—
Therefore, become perfect, just as your Father Who is in heaven is perfect.
Yahweh is revealing Himself again to be unity and perfection.


These Scriptures that reveal the Alpha and Omega, the Aleph and
the Tau to be Yahweh Almighty (Revelation 1:8; 1:11; and 21:6) do not point out Yahshua Messiah. Nor can Revelation 22:13,
in which this phrase was added, be used to claim that Yahshua Messiah pre-existed.
Yahshua Messiah: First And Last—Beginning And End
Having proven that the words Alpha and Omega were added to this Scripture,

Revelation 22:13, The Book Of Yahweh correctly reads.

Revelation 22:13—_
I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

.pWe know Yahshua said this. We know it is no contradiction for Him to call Himself the last, for He will live forever.
We know it is no contradiction for Him to call Himself “the end,” for He is the end result of having kept His Father’s Laws perfectly
.

Romans 10:4—
For Yahshua is the ultimate result of keeping the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes.

The translators tried to distort this Scripture to try to make you believe that Yahshua Messiah ended the Law. thumbs up
Romans 10:4 taken
from the King James Version, shows us how this Scripture has been distorted.


Romans 10:4, KJV—
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth.


If you will research the meanings of the word translated end in this Scripture, then you will see that this word means ultimate, prophetic
purpose, and not end as is universally understood in the English context.
The word translated end in Romans 10:4, as well as Revelation 22:12 is word #5056, from Strong’s Greek Dictionary and
means to set out for a definite point or goal; prop. the point aimed at as a limit, ultimate or prophetic, purpose.
Religious imposters also use Romans 10:4 in order to deceive the people in this world into thinking that Shaul taught against
Yahweh’s Laws. The Apostle Shaul never once taught against the Law of Yahweh. In fact, he taught all to keep Yahweh’s Law. In
the same book of Romans, which Shaul wrote, we find the following Scriptures. Romans 2:13—

For not the hearers of the Law are the righteous in the sight of Yahweh, but the doers of the Law are the righteous.
Romans 6:16—
Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey; whether of sin which leads to
death, or of obedience which leads to righteousness?


There are many Scriptures in the book of Romans, which teach against sin: against breaking the Law of Yahweh

(I Yahchanan 3:4). However, these two should be enough to show you that the Apostle Shaul did not teach against the Laws of Yahweh, as the
false religious leaders would have you believe.


Now, in Revelation 22:13, Yahshua called Himself the “last” because He has been resurrected to eternal life, and now He will
never die again. He called Himself the “end” because He is the end product, the ultimate result of keeping the Law of Yahweh.


What did He mean when He called Himself the first in Revelation 22:13? Did He mean that He was the first being to ever exist?

Many would have you think so. Did He mean that He was the Father of all living? There are some who would have you believe this.

Was Yahshua saying that He pre-existed? If you will let Scripture interpret the Scriptures, then understanding will come.

Revelation 1:5—
And from Yahshua Messiah; the faithful witness, and the firstborn from the dead, and the Ruler of future kings of the earth. To Him Who loved us and freed us from our sins by His own blood.


When Yahshua called Himself the first in Revelation 22:13, He made no reference to pre-existence. Yahshua simply meant that He was the firstborn from the dead, which means that He was the first to be raised from the dead and given eternal life. Because
Yahshua was raised from the dead, He is now immortal, He was the first to be fully created in the full image of Yahweh. This is what Yahshua meant when He said He was the first, in Revelation 22:13.

What, then, did He mean when He called Himself the beginning in this same Scripture? Does this mean that He was in the beginning with Yahweh, as some would also have you to believe?

The answer to this question is found in: Revelation 3:14—
And to the malak of the congregation of The House of Yahweh in Laodicea, write: These things says the Faithful and the True One, the One testifying of the faith and the truth; the first perfected of Yahweh’s creation.


In this Scripture, Yahshua called Himself the beginning of the creation of Yahweh. Yes, man in his present physical state, is only
a half-created being, because we are still corruptible flesh
, as Shaul said. I Corinthians 15:53—
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
We are still dying in this world. If you do not believe this, just read the obituaries. Man is only in the likeness of Yahweh at this time;
man was created to resemble Yahweh. Man has a form just like Yahweh, a head, a chest, arms, legs and feet, just as Scriptures describe Yahweh as having.


However, Yahshua Messiah, because He is the first to be raised from the dead to eternal life, is now in the full image of Yahweh. Yahshua is perfected. He has become the first or the beginning, among men, to reach the state of perfect, completed,
whole creation, as Yahweh’s Plan for mankind is.
Therefore, He still has no reference to pre-existence in calling Himself the beginning in Revelation 22:13. Yahshua Messiah simply meant that He was the beginning, the first perfected of Yahweh’s whole creation, or plan for man.


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Post  sharky on Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:47 am

el kabong wrote:The Aleph & Tav

NOT

the alpha & omega thumbs up

Capiche?

http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/12-2004-PW.pdf

Yahweh inspired holy men of old to write the Scriptures, in order to show mankind how to overcome sin. Once sin is overcome, mankind can become perfect in righteousness, and gain salvation, which is a gift of the Creator, Yahweh only.

However, if we refuse to follow the path of righteousness given by Yahweh’s prophets, we have chosen death. Compare the following Scriptures.

II Kepha 1:21—
For the prophecy did not come in former times by the will of man, but holy men of Yahweh spoke as they were moved by Holy Spirit.
It was by this same inspiration that the Prophet Isayah wrote the following:

Isayah 59:1-2—
1 Behold, Yahweh’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; nor His ear heavy, that it cannot hear.
2 But your own iniquities have separated you from your Father; and your own sins have caused Him to hide His face from you, so He will not listen.

Please notice that iniquity and sin separate you from Yahweh, the Heavenly Father.
The Savior used the word iniquity in His instruction to us, warning us to beware of religious imposters who teach against
Yahweh’s Laws.

Mattithyah 7:15—
Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
The Savior is trying to make us aware of righteousness and evil.

Mattithyah 7:21-22—
21 Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works?


Now remember, iniquity cuts one off from Yahweh (Isayah 59:1-2) so that He will not hear you. Notice the Savior’s words in the
next verse.

Mattithyah 7:23—
But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity; you who break the Law of Yahweh!.....

The Savior Himself is saying that anyone who is not subject to the Laws of Yahweh is cut off from Yahweh and from the Savior; also.

Mattithyah 7:23—
...Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity; you who break the Law of Yahweh!

The Savior said the same thing in the following scriptures.

Revelation 22:12-16—12 And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be.
13 I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
14 Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the
city.
15 For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshippers of gods (elohim) and everyone who
professes to love, yet practices breaking the Law.
thumbs up


16 I, Yahshua, have sent My malak to testify to you these things in the congregations of The House of Yahweh. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the Bright and Morning Star.

Please notice in the verses above that this is the Savior speaking; saying, “Blessed are those who keep, that is, do His, the Father’s, Laws. They, only, will be given the gift of eternal life. All others are cast out.” That’s also exactly what the Savior said in Mattithyah
7:21-23, “Depart from Me you who break the Father’s Laws.”.

The Prophet Isayah also said the same thing in:

Isayah 59:1-2—1 Behold, Yahweh’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; nor His ear heavy, that it cannot hear.
2 But your own iniquities have separated you from your Father; and your own sins have caused Him to hide His face from you, so He will not listen.

d.ne away with or can be rewritten to suit whoever, read the following inspired words of the prophets, apostles, and Savior.

I Yahchanan 3:4—.
Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law.
I Yahchanan 2:4—
He who says: I know Him, but does not keep His Law, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

I Yahchanan 3:7-8—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.

Hebrews 10:26-27—
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins.
. 27 But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

Revelation 20:11-15—
11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him Who sat on it, from Whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before Yahweh. And the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is The Book of Life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and Death and Sheol; the grave, delivered up the dead which were in them. And
they were judged, every man, according to their works.
14 And Death and Sheol were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whoever was not found written in The Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
There are religious imposters all over the world in this time period. The inspired scriptures show that the world, all nations and languages, have turned from the Creator Yahweh and are following, and even praying to Lucifer, under the name of Lord.



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el kabong wrote:Yeremyah 23:26-27—
26 How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds;
27 Who devise; plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his
neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal; Lord.
These are not my writings, these are the inspired words in your Bible, the same Bible that all religious preachers claim to follow,
but do not.
Why were these men so evil as to try to cause the Name of the Creator to be forgotten? Why are religious leaders all over the
.w.orld so evil as to try to keep the Name of the Creator hidden? Yeremyah 23:21-22—
21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran; I have not spoken of them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in My counsel, and had caused My people to hear My words; the Law and the Prophets, then they would
have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings


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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:43 pm

Earthquakes, Volcanoes...
...man and his MYTHS have
NEVER been able to SAVE anything...


...whereas, GOD TOLD US, HE CREATED LIFE,
and WITH HIM, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.


The Pompeii worm was found in the 1980s


Its family name Alvinellidae and genus name Alvinella
both derive from DSV Alvin, the three-person
submersible vehicle used during the discovery of
hydrothermal vents and their fauna
during the late 1970s.


Deep sea vents in the Atlantic Ocean’s Mid-Atlantic Ridge
support
tubeworms, eelpout fish, and crabs.
The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is an
underwater mountain chain
that extends about 10,000 miles (16,000
kilometers)
from the Arctic Ocean to the southern tip of Africa.
Water heated as high as 760°F (404°C)
by magma from Earth's interior
billows from a seafloor chimney.

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/habitats/deep-sea-vents/

Sadly, most don't use their access to the internet
for edifying education...and end up paying dearly,
trying to satisfy lusts and 'get rich', because they
didn't care to learn to Serve Just life...

Computer seized at couple's home

Anthony Dowsley and Mark Buttler
UPDATE 8.42am:
POLICE have confirmed they spoke to a couple
and seized their computer
on the day they went missing.

dixie dean wrote:
09-11-2011, 12:18 AM #32097
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormrider73

I'm a "Targeted Individual" aka TI
You could reverse Targeted Individual to Individually Targeted which would give you IT.

When you put IT into Wiki you get three pages come up...

It (novel), It (film) and Information Technology

It might be worth keeping that in mind,

Last edited by dixie d; 09-11-2011 at 12:19 AM.
...and NO, you EVIL DICK "TINTIN", YOU DIDN'T 'predict' ANYTHING!

YOU PLOT, and PULL SOME OFF, but FRAZIER'S DEATH WAS EXPECTED,
AND WIDELY REPORTED IN THE MSN, BEFORE YOU, MORE (NOT less),
posted FISTS of YOUR EXCREMENTAL words, dates & images, TO LATER,
INSANELY EXPECT others to believe a CHERRY PICKED FEW, 'predicted'
SHIT!

But what EXPOSES YOU and YOUR OTHER 'names', IS THE LUST with
which YOU GLOAT and TRY TO PERSONALLY BOAST OF, DEATHS.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3210
dixie dean wrote: 08-11-2011, 12:59 PM #32079
Quote:
Originally Posted by cori



JOE FRAZIER died
Frazier was diagnosed with liver cancer in late September 2011 and admitted to hospice care.[3] He died November 7, 2011.

November 7 is 117 or 711 reveresed. I also wondered if Smoking Joe might have any reference to Volcano

Quote:
Black smokers or deep sea vents are an example of this kind of volcanic activity.
Last edited by dixie d; 08-11-2011 at 01:00 PM.


true lilly wrote:30-10-2007, 04:33 PM #499
Quote:
Originally Posted by armoured saint

It's not like you have checked and
compared DNA samples of these as opposed to groups of people in the
middleast, egypt and south america as well as the Aborigines. So, how
did Moses get to Australia from south America and yet the source of the
story comes from either Egypt, middle or near east.

Don't tell me Noah built the 'Abel Tasman' and then handed it down to Moses somehow.

I like your font colouring. It dazzles the senses. Puts "King Of The Mountain" to shame.

And here we have it again folks, that DESPERATE NEED TO WORSHIP EGYPT,
The City of The DEATH CULT.

Now this 'character' is NOT unfamiliar with all that's been posted on this topic,
yet comes up with a childish, "Oh yeah!" post like this.

Now as for comparing DNA; it has been done and in the news, that native
Australians ARE THE OLDEST, PUREST Blooded peoples.
Related closest to the OLDEST PUREST SOUTH AMERICANS and Africans,
who in THEIR OWN ORAL HISTORY tell of NOT ORIGINATING in Africa.

So, AT LEAST 60,000 years of the LONGEST CONTINUOUS Cultures,
of the 'OLDEST' peoples, who's DREAMING STORIES ARE the Consistently
CLOSEST FITS TO GENESIS...but we'll just IGNORE ALL THAT and
"keep looking for" "where they came from"??!!!

The CLOSEST RELATED FLORA & FAUNA to OZ NATIVES, are South American.

'Jerusalem' wasn't GIVEN that name until around 1000 Year AFTER
Alexander The Great DELUDED PUPPET of his Twisted Mother, told
the world an ORACLE in EGYPT "told him" that "HE WAS THE SON of 'god'".

That's a THOUSAND YEARS of the MOST POWERFUL, ANTI-CHRIST
EMPIRES FORCING their 'history' down the throats of powerless,

uneducated peoples, with things like the CONTINUED BLOODY INQUISITIONS
that SLAUGHTERED, PRIMARILY, CHRISTIANS who would NOT accept ROME'S
COUNTERFEIT.

But "THEY" want YOU to IGNORE that Holy Scripture ALSO DESCRIBES
the NATURAL HISTORY that Science is finally catching up with; IGNORE
that Holy Scripture DESCRIBES the WHOLE World,
FROM THE TIME of The Super-Continent before that River Head became a SEA,
that "They", without foundation, RE-named the Euphrates.

In fact IGNORE ALL Holy Scripture, according to "Them" it's all a fairy tale,
EXCEPT THE BITS KNOWN TO BE CHANGED, in order TO SELL EGYPT'S
DEATH WORSHIP CULT!

Now long after Joshua died, after winning wars ON FOOT against Mounted
Armies and HAMSTRINGING all their BEASTS OF BURDEN (which is what those
'horses' and 'camels' are), they FORGOT Their God and History and were
DRIVEN OUT OF ZION (which included the UTTER DEVASTATION of the land
that The Creator also Promised He would cause to BLOOM RICH again when
the Lost, Scattered, Mixed and Mingled Israel, started returning), which
was when those Old Cultures of Asia took off, and the GENETIC MIX of
peoples across the world and into NORTHERN Europe SUPPORTS this.

And so does what VERY LITTLE Archeology had been done in this land;
a Large Corralling of Different, Large, Unknown DOMESTIC Animals.

But be patient, we'd need over 500 of these pages to catch up on all the
evidences for this case, that "this poster" KNOWS we've covered elsewhere.

It's the COUNTERFEITING "Jesuit Trained" scholars and "those who
say they are Jews but are NOT", who INVENTED that ONLY around 6000 year age
of the world according to ROMES 'bible'.

Holy Scripture DESCRIBES a MUCH OLDER AGE,
RIGHT BACK TO BEFORE MAN LIVED ON THE SUPER-CONTINENT.
true lilly wrote:Re: Aboriginal Stonehenge:
Stargazing in ancient Australia
true lilly Today, 9-11-2011 at 12:53 am
Geology
Prehistory of Antarctica



Map showing details of Gondwana break-up, including glacial scouring
as Australia moved northwards.
(Map: R Beaman)


Like all other continents, Antarctica has at its core an ancient
shield. The rocks of the East Antarctica shield are as old as 4 billion
years, which means that they are amongst the oldest known rocks on
Earth. Geologists are now studying this shield to help them gain insight
into the early geological processes of the Earth’s history.


In many ways, the evolution of Antarctica appears to be similar to
that of Australia.
The fossil record of the two continents is similar,
and Antarctica has yielded dinosaurs, amphibians and even marsupials
from ages when the continents were joined.


The position of the continents shifts constantly and the geography of
today's world is vastly different from what it was even a hundred
million years ago. Twenty million years before the dinosaurs became
extinct, Australia, Antarctica and South America were part of the same
land mass called Gondwana. In those days Antarctica was not covered in
ice, even though it was at the South Pole. Animals passed freely from
South America through Antarctica to Australia, and the plant species of
Gondwana were also closely related to each other.


Eighty five million years ago Australia began to separate from Antarctica.
The separation started slowly at first at a rate of only a few millimetres a year.
This then accelerated to the present rate of 7 cm a year.
Australia completely separated from Antarctica about 30 million years ago.


Scientists in Antarctica have discovered fossilised spores and pollen
of sundews, Nothofagus (which includes the Tasmanian myrtle
N. cunninghamii and the Tasmanian deciduous beech N. gunnii ).
The Tasmanian tree fern and creeping pine, are derived from forms which
once inhabited Australia and Antarctica.

Scientists were recently excited by a fossil discovery of twigs, roots, leaves
and pollen in Antarctica, of a form which is virtually indistinguishable
from Nothofagus gunnii , the Tasmanian deciduous beech.

These fossils may be ‘only’ 3 million years old.

This implies that Antarctica was not entirely covered by ice at that time.
Previous to this find, scientists had thought that Antarctica cooled and
became ice bound after Australia and South America separated
30 million years ago, allowing the Circumpolar Current to develop.
Scientists are still debating the age and significance of this
fossil discovery.


Antarctica without its ice

Casey: the Daintree of Antarctica

People who consider Antarctica to be a small continent will be
surprised to discover that it is larger than Europe and nearly twice the
size of Australia. The Antarctic continent, excluding its ice shelves,
covers over 13 million square kilometres compared with 7.7 million km²
for Australia, or 10.5 million km² for Europe. The map below gives some
idea of relative size.




Ninety-nine percent of Antarctica has a permanent blanket of snow and ice.
Only about one percent of the continent's rock base is visible
where it pokes through the ice sheet in the form of coastal outcrops,
mountain ranges or ‘nunataks’ which are isolated peaks.


The Transantarctic Mountains divide the continent into two
contrasting parts, the East and West. The Transantarctic Mountains
constitute one of the world’s longest and most impressive mountain
chains. They extend from the north western corner of the Ross Sea to the
south western corner of the Weddell Sea. West Antarctica, which
includes the Antarctic Peninsula, is smaller and has a complex
geological history. West Antarctica consists of four land units each
with a different history. There has been major volcanic activity here in
recent geological times and there are still a few active volcanic
centres.
Deep waters exist between land units and the West Antarctic ice
sheet, which can be considered to a be floating ice mass, held in place
by land peaks. West Antarctica includes the Vinson Massif, which has
the highest peak in Antarctica at 5140 metres.


Most of East Antarctica is still not well known by geologists but it
does include the Transantarctic Mountains.
These commonly exceed 4000
metres elevation. The shield is very depressed in the centre, where it
carries the bulk of the Antarctic ice sheet. Large areas lie deeper than
1000 metres below sea level.


Mining Antarctica

There are deposits of minerals such as coal and iron ore, but there
are vast economic and technical difficulties associated with the
recovery of mineral deposits. The Antarctic ice cover is, on average,
2.5 km thick and this means that very little of the land is accessible
for exploration, so work would have to take place under the ice sheet.
The difficult Antarctic conditions, evenwhen the technology works well
elsewhere make exploitation unlikely.
Once minerals are mined, Antarctica is a long way from world markets,
and material would have to be transported over the treacherous Southern
Ocean. Cheaper sources exist elsewhere in the world, and these will be
exploited before Antarctic sources.


So far, the economics of extracting resources from the harsh
Antarctic environment have prevented any commercial operations, but
Antarctica's climate may not protect its minerals indefinitely. What can
prevent such exploitation is a strong, well-supported international
agreement. Nations of the Antarctic Treaty System agreed in 1991 to put a
halt to the exploitation of minerals when they signed a comprehensive
Protocol on Environmental Protection (the Madrid Protocol), which banned
mining in Antarctica indefinitely. This important agreement came into
force in January 1998.

Read more about mining in Antarctica


Glossopteris (Fossil) leaf Permian age, Prince Charles Mountains.
(Photo: R Oldfield; Cat: 4766C1)


Antarctic prehistory facts
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/fact-files/geology/antarctic-prehistory-facts

One more time, FROM THE BEGINNING...

Lebanon = "whiteness"
1) a wooded mountain range on the northern border of Israel

LEBANON

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lebanon&t=KJV

Every place 4725 whereon the soles 3709 of your feet 7272 shall tread 1869
shall be yours: from the wilderness 4057 and Lebanon 3844,
from the river 5104, the river 5104 Euphrates 6578,
even unto the uttermost 314 sea 3220 shall your coast 1366 be.


LABAN

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=laban&t=KJV&sf=5

And Isaac 3327 sent away 7971 Jacob 3290:
and he went 3212 to Padanaram 6307 unto Laban 3837,
son 1121 of Bethuel 1328 the Syrian 761, the brother 251 of Rebekah 7259,
Jacob's 3290 and Esau's 6215 mother 517.

I left school at 14, not that I went much before then, as by 8, I knew
there was something about The Time Line, we weren't being taught, and
that, 'That Something' had to do with GOD.
Not that I left EDUCATION, I was doing my Horsemasters Diploma by 13,
and continued self education, all my life, taking interest in whatever any expert
on anything had to share.

Seekwith your whole heart and whole mind. That's what I set out to do,
and not so much 'despite', but 'because' of the many false paths I'd cross
and take, I discovered that faith, inThe Creator and The Truth of His Word,
was the only thing that led me past knowledge, to understanding,
and discovery, of yet more knowledge and understanding.

As I came to understand that just as Australia was 'presented' to be a
land of 'no historic value', my lack of deep interest in the deep sea
and Antarctica, was born of how they were 'presented'.

But my most deep interest was always in seeking to know God, which again,
led me to 'KNOW', what I'm still only discovering, others have long known...and
I should not keep having to argue the facts of.

God Exists!
God Described All The World, All The Earth and All Peoples,
From The Beginning.

And, God Does KEEP ALL HIS PROMISES.

P.S. and all the CRAP "Ciggy & Co.=Team TINTIN" keep,
REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEATING, "They" KNOW I've been
SHOWING TO BE "Their" DELIBERATE DECEPTIVE DISTRACTION,
since back in 2005, when I first went on line, and started being
BANNED from further expounding, and being LITERALLY, PHYSICALLY,
FINANCIALLY and Socially ATTACKED, BY "Them", Again.
As I always have been, when I refuse to blame God, for "THEIR" EVILS.


But see, when others of the hippy era, were PREACHING, "God doesn't exist",
I kept looking for His Promised Revealing Proofs, that He Creates AND SAVES
LIFE...and kept finding more and more...


PINK HAIRY SQUAT LOBSTER (Lauriea siagiani) - ©Scott Penny

They are not lobsters at all, but are more closely related to
porcelain crabs, hermit crabs and then, more distantly, true crabs.
They are distributed worldwide in the oceans, and occur from near the
surface to deep sea hydrothermal vents.

There are currently 870 described species.

They live on Giant Barrel Sponges. These squat lobsters are
remarkably colored, with their intense pink body, purple spots, and
bright yellow hairs that protrude in all directions.

Fossil squat lobsters have been found in strata
dating back to the Middle Jurassic of Europe.


Fact Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squat_lobster
http://www.thefeaturedcreature.com/#axzz1GGJ7mEM7

Deep-Sea Volcanoes
Don't Just Produce Lava Flows,
They Also Explode

ScienceDaily (Mar. 28, 2011)


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110328151734.htm
...and if you insist on believing that THE RELIGIONS PREACHED
by ANTI-LIFE GREENIE God Mockers can 'save you', KNOW that
GOD ALSO WARNED that WILLINGLY BLIND FAITH in MAN'S LIES,
CAN'T 'save'!
BUT GOD CAN and DOES, CREATE LIFE FROM NOTHING,
and RESURRECTS The 'dead' WHO DIDN'T DENY,
HIS HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH.
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Scientists find two 'sunken islands' off WA -
part of Gondwana land link

by:Narelle Towie Science Reporter
From:PerthNow
November 14, 2011
9:19AM

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MYSTERIOUS: An image of one of the sunken islands. Source: PerthNow

SCIENTISTS have discovered two huge sunken islands in the Indian Ocean west of Perth.

The islands, about the size of Tasmania, were once part of the supercontinent Gondwana and are more than 1.5km underwater.

Researchers from the University of Sydney, Macquarie University and the University
of Tasmania say the islands were once above water and formed part of the last link
between India and Australia.

They made the discovery while mapping the seafloor of the Perth Abyssal Plain.

“The data collected on the voyage could significantly change our
understanding of the way in which India, Australia and Antarctica broke
off from Gondwana,” University of Sydney geologist Dr Joanne Whittaker
said.

The scientists returned to Perth last week after carrying
out the complicated task of dredging up hundreds of kilograms of rock
samples from the steep slopes of the two islands during a three-week
expedition aboard CSIRO vessel Southern Surveyor.

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We expected to see common oceanic rocks such as basalt in the
dredge, but were surprised to see continental rocks such as granite,
gneiss and sandstone containing fossils,”
University of Sydney’s chief
expedition scientist Dr Simon Williams said.

“A detailed analysis of the rocks dredged up during the voyage will tell us about
their age and how they fit into the Gondwana jigsaw.”

The islands, called ‘micro-continents’, were formed when India began to
move away from Australia, about 130 million years ago during the
Cretaceous period, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth.

They became stranded thousands of kilometres from either coast as the land masses separated, the scientists say.

“The sunken islands charted during the expedition have flat tops, which
indicates they were once at sea level before being gradually submerged,”
Dr Whittaker said.

“Our preliminary analysis of the magnetic data that we collected
could cause us to rethink the plate tectonic story for the whole of
the Eastern Indian Ocean,” she said.

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Funny thing is, all I've asked of folk is to re-read what Holy Scripture
actually describes, in the revealing light breaking through where the
'dead wood' shaken from the 'accepted' myths of 'bible stories', shines
on the recent discoveries of science, that do support what God Described;
of both our truly ancient, and future, history.

While those who attack me for asking folk to think for themselves, keep
spamming 'me', with the long ago proven to fail, Religions of man, that
everywhere else on NET, they demand the world reject...FOR 'The New',
Ickest Type of Creator God Mocking, Global religion.

The 'funny' thing being, that 'they' believe others can't also see through
the desperation, to the motivation of 'their' floods of attacks.

Spirit LEVEL, water finds it's own LEVEL, sea LEVEL.
The land rises and sinks, and rises, out of the waters.
Just some of the basic science that used to be taught to primary school children,
but replaced by the Religious Preaching of Proudly Self Confessed Anti Christ
Greenies, during this age, when science is discovering, what is actually described,
in the full, contextual meaning of The Words of The Bible. Including that most
ancient age of Life existing on earth Before oxygen(= prince of the air=rust/death)
formed.

Remember also, God didn't ask for blind faith, but to search with our whole hearts
and minds and test scripture against what is real in this whole real world=diligently
do good science, in order to Know He exists, described All the world,
All the earth and All peoples, From The Beginning, and Keeps All His Promises.

Like preserving a uniquely rich, geologically stable, land of unique
light (due to it's unique position on the globe and it's angle to the
sun), in the south, for the lost, scattered, mixed and mingled remnants
of all the truly ancient tribes of Israel and their friends, to be
re-gathered into, and from where, the healing of all the world begins.

true lilly wrote:Earthquakes, Volcanoes...
...man and his MYTHS have
NEVER been able to SAVE anything...


...whereas, GOD TOLD US, HE CREATED LIFE,
and WITH HIM, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.


The Pompeii worm was found in the 1980s


Its family name Alvinellidae and genus name Alvinella
both derive from DSV Alvin, the three-person
submersible vehicle used during the discovery of
hydrothermal vents and their fauna during the late 1970s.


...and if you insist on believing that THE RELIGIONS PREACHED
by ANTI-LIFE GREENIE God Mockers can 'save you', KNOW that
GOD ALSO WARNED that WILLINGLY BLIND FAITH in MAN'S LIES,
CAN'T 'save'!
BUT GOD CAN and DOES, CREATE LIFE FROM NOTHING,
and RESURRECTS The 'dead' WHO DIDN'T DENY,
HIS HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH.
Jeremiah 3:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=3&v=1&t=KJV#1
In those days 3117 the house 1004 of Judah 3063
shall walk 3212 with the house 1004 of Israel 3478,
and they shall come 935 together 3162
out of the land 776 of the north 6828
to the land 776 that I have given
for an inheritance 5157 unto your fathers 1.


But I said 559 , How shall I put 7896 thee
among the children 1121, and give 5414 thee
a pleasant 2532 land 776, a goodly 6643 heritage 5159

of the hosts 6635 of nations 1471?
and I said 559 , Thou shalt call 7121 me, My father 1;
and shalt not turn away 7725 from me 310.


a trade zone 50 per cent
bigger than the EU.


Gillard heralds new era
of trans-Pacific trade

Simon Mann
13-11-2011 - 10:13AM

Japan interested in PM's free trade zone

At the APEC summit in Hawaii, Prime Minister Julia Gillard
welcomes Japan's potential involvement in
a trade zone 50 per cent
bigger than the EU.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/gillard-heralds-new-era-of-transpacific-trade-20111113-1ndfs.html[/quote]
a trade zone 50 per cent
bigger than the EU.


Nine-nation free trade agreement a 'milestone'
by:Mark Kenny in Honolulu
From:Herald Sun
November 14, 2011


US President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama
greet Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Tim Mathieson
before the APEC leaders dinner in Honolulu on Saturday.
Picture: AP AP


AUSTRALIAN farmers and manufacturers will benefit from a nine-nation
free trade deal that leaders hope to have in place within a year.

US President Barack Obama, Prime Minister Julia Gillard and the
heads of seven other Asia-Pacific nations have agreed on the broad
outline of a Trans-Pacific Partnership.


Mr Obama hailed it as a "milestone" that could dwarf the euro-zone.

It commits Australia, Brunei, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore,
the US and Vietnam to drop all trade barriers.


Ms Gillard said agriculture stood to benefit "a great deal".


"We have very efficient and productive farmers. And when you talk to them
they are very alive to the barriers that prevent them getting full access
into other markets," Ms Gillard said.

"If they had full access they would well and truly compete on price and quality."
Australia's manufacturing sector also faced barriers to selling goods into the region.
"It frustrates many of our manufacturers that they can't get their products to market
at a fair price," she said.


"So it's important."


The agreement is also set to benefit the services sector, including accounting, legal and engineering.


The US also believes it can provide a counterweight to the economic might of China, the world's second largest economy.


Japan's agricultural sector has been notoriously protected from competition for
years, with rice often cited as the signature example.

The price mark-up on imported grain can be as high as 800 per cent.[/quote]


Glossopteris (Fossil) leaf Permian age, Prince Charles Mountains.
(Photo: R Oldfield; Cat: 4766C1)


Antarctic prehistory facts
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/fact-files/geology/antarctic-prehistory-facts

One more time, FROM THE BEGINNING...

Lebanon = "whiteness"
1) a wooded mountain range on the northern border of Israel

LEBANON

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lebanon&t=KJV

Every place 4725 whereon the soles 3709 of your feet 7272 shall tread 1869
shall be yours: from the wilderness 4057 and Lebanon 3844,
from the river 5104, the river 5104 Euphrates 6578,
even unto the uttermost 314 sea 3220 shall your coast 1366 be.


LABAN

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=laban&t=KJV&sf=5

And Isaac 3327 sent away 7971 Jacob 3290:
and he went 3212 to Padanaram 6307 unto Laban 3837,
son 1121 of Bethuel 1328 the Syrian 761, the brother 251 of Rebekah 7259,
Jacob's 3290 and Esau's 6215 mother 517.

I left school at 14, not that I went much before then, as by 8, I knew
there was something about The Time Line, we weren't being taught, and
that, 'That Something' had to do with GOD.
Not that I left EDUCATION, I was doing my Horsemasters Diploma by 13,
and continued self education, all my life, taking interest in whatever any expert
on anything had to share.

Seek with your whole heart and whole mind. That's what I set out to do,
and not so much 'despite', but 'because' of the many false paths I'd cross
and take, I discovered that faith, in The Creator and The Truth of His Word,
was the only thing that led me past knowledge, to understanding,
and discovery, of yet more knowledge and understanding.

As I came to understand that just as Australia was 'presented' to be a
land of 'no historic value', my lack of deep interest in the deep sea
and Antarctica, was born of how they were 'presented'.

But my most deep interest was always in seeking to know God, which again,
led me to 'KNOW', what I'm still only discovering, others have long known...and
I should not keep having to argue the facts of.

God Exists!
God Described All The World, All The Earth and All Peoples,
From The Beginning.

And, God Does KEEP ALL HIS PROMISES.

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Post  sharky on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:14 pm

true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:

I hate joooz, the Torah and Israel.........

rolling pin I vill take the joooooz holy scripture and deform it to fit my antisemitc/anti Israel agenda.........sieg hiel!!!!!! rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin rolling pin



sheeesh suzi/lilly, tell us sumthin' we don't know. You're a liar. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.pdf

Theology and Race

AT NOON ON SATURDAY, MAY 6, 1939, a group of Protestant theologians, pastors,
and churchgoers gathered at the historic Wartburg Castle, resonant with Lutheran
and nationalist significance, to celebrate the official opening of the Institute
for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Church
Life (Institut zur Erforschung und Beseitigung des jüdischen Einfl usses auf
das deutsche kirchliche Leben). The Institute’s goals were both political and
theological. Seeking to create a dejudaized church for a Germany that was in
the process of ridding Europe of all Jews, it developed new biblical interpretations
and liturgical materials. In the six years of its existence, as the Nazi regime
carried out its genocide of the Jews, the Institute redefi ned Christianity
as a Germanic religion whose founder, Jesus, was no Jew but rather had fought
valiantly to destroy Judaism, falling as victim to that struggle. Germans were
now called upon to be the victors in Jesus’s own struggle against the Jews, who
were said to be seeking Germany’s destruction.


Most members of the Institute, particularly its academic director, Walter
Grundmann, professor of New Testament at the University of Jena, regarded
their work as being in the theological avant-garde, addressing and resolving
a problem that had long plagued Christian theology: how to establish clear and distinct boundaries between earliest Christianity and Judaism and eliminate all traces of Jewish influence from contemporary Christian theology and religious practice. As a predominantly younger generation of scholars, trained by Germany’s leading scholars of early Christianity—many members of the Institute were students of the distinguished Tübingen professor, Gerhard Kittel, himself a Nazi who produced antisemitic propaganda1—they saw themselves able to recover the historically genuine, non-Jewish Jesus and a Christian message compatible with contemporary German identity. Theirs was a goal of purification, authenticity, and theological revolution, all in the name of historical-critical methods and commitment to Germanness, to be achieved by eradicating the Jewish from the Christian. A Christian message tainted by Jewishness could not serve Germans, nor could a Jewish message be the accurate teaching of Jesus.
The Institute’s goals were stated forthrightly at its opening by Grundmann, who delivered the keynote lecture on “The Dejudaization of the Religious Life as the Task of German Theology and Church.” The present era, he declared, was similar to the Reformation: Protestants had to overcome Judaism just as Luther had overcome Catholicism. “The elimination of Jewish infl uence on German life is the urgent and fundamental question of the present German religious situation.”


Modern New Testament scholarship had made apparent the “deformation of New Testament ideas into Old Testament preconceptions, so that now angry recognition of the Jewishness in the Old Testament and in parts of the New Testament has arisen, obstructing access to the Bible for innumerable German people.”2
The Bible would have to be purified, Grundmann continued, restored to its pristine condition, to proclaim the truth about Jesus: that he sought the destruction of Judaism.


Munich’s Cardinal Faulhaber, for example, delivered a series of Advent sermons in 1933 attacking the German Christian movement, but his argument, almost identical to what the Confessing Church leaders came to argue, was that the Old Testament need not be eliminated as a Jewish book, as some German Christians advocated; it was, rather, an anti-Jewish book, Faulhaber insisted, since the prophets were constantly condemning Israel for its sinful ways.7 Faulhaber’s objection, then, was not to the German Christians’ antisemitism, but to their failure to realize that the Old Testament itself was on their side.8

ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY
Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting
anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfi lled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14


In reality Nazism accomplished but few of its goals. But in one area, that of the Jewish question, political myth achieved its purpose to the full. Here the regime met the least opposition from those who in other matters were hardly in accord with Nazism—be it intellectuals, the churches or public opinion in the Reich or abroad. The Jew served as the focal point round which Nazism turned and on which the structural process of value-transformation and reversal of meanings took place. Among the values and meanings that were transformed, the symbol itself was turned into substance; consequently, the negation of Judaism had to be transformed into the annihilation of the Jew, this time not spiritually but rather physically, not symbolically but in substance.” Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption,

and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.
Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fi ghter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?
Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.
Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European
culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political signifi cance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19
..........................


The error Of Replacement Theology

http://www.therefinersfire.org/replacement_theology.htm

Replacement Theology was introduced to the Church shortly after Gentile leadership took over from Jewish leadership. What are its premises?

Israel (the Jewish people and the land) has been replaced by the Christian Church in the purposes of God, or, more precisely, the Church is the historic continuation of Israel to the exclusion of the former.


The Jewish people are now no longer a "chosen people." In fact, they are no different from any other group, such as the English, Spanish, or Africans.


Apart from repentance, the new birth, and incorporation into the Church, the Jewish people have no future, no hope, and no calling in the plan of God. The same is true for every other nation and group.


Since Pentecost of Acts 2, the term "Israel," as found in the Bible, now refers to the Church.


The promises, covenants and blessings ascribed to Israel in the Bible have been taken away from the Jews and given to the Church, which has superseded them. However, the Jews are subject to the curses found in the Bible, as a result of their rejection of Christ.

Replacement Theology

Its Origins, Teachings and Errors

By Dr. Gary Hedrick, President of CJF Ministries

(With Minor Editing By Rabbi Loren)


http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php

Definition

Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:

1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.

2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called “punitive secessionism.”

Perhaps Martin Luther articulated this position most eloquently when he wrote: “For such ruthless wrath of God is sufficient evidence that they [i.e., the Jewish people] assuredly have erred and gone astray. Even a child can comprehend this. For one dare not regard God as so cruel that he would punish his own people so long, so terrible, so unmercifully … Therefore this work of wrath is proof that the Jews, surely rejected by God, are no longer his people, and neither is he any longer their God” (“On the Jews and Their Lies,” Trans. Martin H. Bertram, in Luther’s Works [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1971], p. 265).

Common threads that weave their way through the numerous variations of supersessionism are (1) that God is finished with Israel as a nation, and (2) that the promises He made to Israel in the Old Testament have been inherited by the Church. (However, most Replacement theologians are reluctant to say that the Church - which is largely in apostasy today - has also inherited the curses and judgments that God pronounced on Israel for her apostasy.)

One defender of Replacement Theology writes: “The Jewish nation no longer has a place as the special people of God; that place has been taken by the Christian community which fulfills God’s purpose for Israel” (Bruce Waltke, “Kingdom Promises as Spiritual,” in Continuity and Discontinuity: Perspectives on the Relationship Between the Testaments, Ed. John S. Feinberg [Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway, 1987] p. 275). This is how one evangelical theologian summarized the essence of supersessionism in a paper he presented at the Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting a few years ago: “The issue is whether national Israel as an administrative structure is still in the plan of God” (“A Future for Israel in Covenant Theology: The Untold Story” by R. Todd Mangum, Instructor in Historical and Systematic Theology at Biblical Theological Seminary in Hatfield, Pennsylvania [November 16, 2000], p. 20.


THE END TIME SOLUTION TO
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY!
By Rabbi/Brother Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky


http://yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=3&type=12

The hideous falsehood known as replacement theology has been a cancer in theological circles for the past two millennia that just seems to refuse to go away. While replacement theology takes on different applications, and modes, it is a theology originated by the early non Jewish fathers of the so called "Christian Church". It coldly states that a new Rome centered, and Roman based ecclesiastical organization called "the church", is the "new Israel". This new Israel, would now forever replace Jewish Israel, since Yahuwah permanently rejected the Jews for killing their Messiah, His Son. Extreme proponents of replacement theology have even gone so far as to claim that Yahuwah, the mean, and cruel despot, was the Elohim of the Old Covenant Jews, as opposed to Yahshua who is the forever loving, kind, and compassionate Elohim who had REPLACED YAHUWAH AS LORD OF "THE CHURCH" OR THE SO CALLED "NEW ISRAEL". In other words, Yahshua’s people have replaced the Father’s people.

This hideous doctrine is by no means a small theological side issue to be argued in a local pub. It has been at the forefront of antisemitism, Judeo-phobia, and has fully provided fuel for tragic historical events such as the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Crusades, the ouster of the Jews from every European country, as well as the Nazi holocaust. As history clearly demonstrates, Martin Luther, and other Protestant reformers blueprinted both the call, and the plans for the annihilation of the Jewish nation from Europe, and later the world by providing "so called Christians", with biblical justification to perpetrate genocide on world Jewry. Adolph Hitler knew full well that he could find theological approval, and support from these church folks. The inbred functionalism of this spiritual cancer amongst those that preach Yahshua is so widespread that it cannot be fully reversed, and eliminated until Yahshua’s millennial reign begins shortly when He returns to the earth. Even such seemingly benign church doctrines such as "Kingdom Now" theology or "Dominion" theology, where the so called "church" will christianize the world through the establishment of the bible as a global constitution, and whereby all world powers, and authorities will be won to, and taken over by Christendom, are nothing more than new attempts at replacing the "troublesome Jews". Wasn’t this flawed global christianization program, whereby Yahshua would merely take over a globally loyal populace converted through church efforts, already tried numerous times? Historically they were called the Crusades, Inquisitions, and Pogroms. Was it not the Crusaders who were attempting to take the globe by the sword, and convert, and subdue it by the gospel?

The theology of "Dominion Now" or "Kingdom Now", is nothing but a papal farce, designed to enlist Protestants in a new age attempt to liquidate the Jewish race, by theology rather than by a sword. They believe twentieth century man will not respond favorably to any elimination of the Jewish nation via bloodletting. Therefore in these last days, we see a major resurgence in "church" theology, designed to subdue, and eliminate the Jew. In these various applications of replacement theology, the Jew has no future whatsoever unless he agrees to become one with "the church", and assimilate his precious customs, feasts, seventh day Sabbaths, and the rest of his national identity through incorporation or more accurately through disappearance, and integration within "the church".

These hideous theologies call anything Jewish to be anti Christ, and legalistic. Jewish practices are not welcome in their church systems. It is simply fascinating to me that "the church" has this insatiable desire to institute biblical law, and church sovereignty over the globe by spreading Yahuwah’s laws, when one of the major errors within Christianity is the very rejection, and the denial of the validity of first covenant instruction in New Covenant times.

The so called "church" system has repeatedly, and pridefully proclaimed to its adherents that the Torah or the laws of first covenant Israel are passed away, and nailed to the cross, and have therefore been replaced by the second covenant law, which is love, baby, love. In other words, this man made ecclesiastical organization started, funded, and headquartered in Rome, now wants to force their paganized Christendom down the throats of the worlds populace, with obedience to THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, and other teachings all based on the Decalogue, all the while instructing her very own members that it is not applicable to the New Covenant "church". Now you talk about confusion! How can a man made ecclesiastical system that is boastfully, and wrongfully antinomian (anti-Torah), at it’s very core theology, force the world’s populace to submit to rules, and regulations that they themselves loath as having preceded from the Jewish despot named Yahuwah, and His Jews? Remember that in true replacement theology a pagan blonde haired, and blue eyed European, pork eating Jesus (the English translation of the sun deity Zeus), has replaced Yahuwah the Father as LORD (from the pagan deity Lourdes), over his "church" (from the pagan circular ritual conducted by the Celts).

The most disturbing part of all this is that replacement theology continues to spread overtly, and covertly in these last days seemingly unchecked, and undetected by born again folks of all denominations, as well as by Messianic Jews. As this study progresses you will find, and discover the alarming fact that modern day Messianic Judaism has in most cases fallen into the same trap of replacement theology that they loath, and despise. Messianic Judaism has every right to loath replacement theology. However through error, and pride they not only forsake the true solution to the error of replacement theology, (which is readily available by studying the scriptures accurately with an open mind), but worse yet, they have unknowingly become accomplices to the doctrine itself.

Before we demonstrate the biblically prescribed means for the elimination of this hideous creed, we will learn a few more insights into this doctrine of replacement theology. The first error of this false doctrine is that the church has replaced Israel (the Jews) as the historic continuation of the people of Israel. According to this line of reasoning, Jewish Israel ceased from being a people, with a historic relevancy to Yahuwah at Pentecost in 33 AD. In other words, a total cessation of all eternal promises, and blessings which had been promised to the Jews, had come about because of the New Covenant "church", who unilaterally declared the first covenant promises to the Jews null, and void. The truth of course is that the physical descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, had, and will continue to have a crucial, and vital role in the historical, and redemptive purposes of the Father. Replacement theology declares that the Jews are no different than any other people group, and that their chosen status was self appointed, and has ceased when their "European" non Jewish (Jesus) went to the cross.

The truth of course is that no other nation before or since has been earmarked by Yahuwah to work out His redemptive, and earthly will, as has Israel (12 tribes).



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Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:44 pm

true lilly wrote:So where were all ROEBUCK'S Associates
when he needed "their" help?
Couldn't even get a Lawyer to show up.
His Last Associate Left him ALONE.
KNOWING a 6 story window was his
ONLY WAY "OUT"!

true lilly wrote:"tintin" WORSE than "Yellow"...
a LOVER of LIES, PLAGIARIST
(NOT a CREATIVE bone in him),
ANTI CREATOR, ANTI CREATION,
ANTI LIFE, ANTI TRUTH, and,
ANTI ANYONE DOING or RECEIVING
JUSTICE...
because NONE of HIS SELF GLORYING
is Justly earned or maintained...

ALL HE DOES is HUNT SACRIFICIAL Lambs
TO THROW to HIS WOLVES, and their
BLOODY REMAINS AT OTHER
WEAK, POWERLESS, INNOCENTS...

and, CAN'T SHUT UP about
WHAT A GREAT JOKE IT IS TO HIM
Evil or Very Mad
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3207
EVIL!

nope...not it yet...but compare how MANY 'names'
VIOLENTLY STORM against me, for daring to SHOW
that GOD'S WORD DOES DESCRIBE AUSTRALIA
to BE ZION, FOR ALL ISRAEL and FRIENDS...
...and NOTE 'THOSE NAMES' CALL FOR THE
DESTRUCTION of ISRAEL and FRIENDS...AND,
WANT THIS GLORIOUS LAND FOR THEMSELVES!

true lilly wrote:
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA

Severe storm warning for Victoria

6:27AM
Nathan Mawby

UPDATE 7am:

STORMS and lightning sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau

warning the worst is yet to come.

Biggest war of them all
VIDEO: Gamers turned out at midnight for
the launch of the highly anticipated
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3

P.S. these are ALL on Today's MURDOCH Herald Sun
FRONT PAGE.
I 'googled' true lilly images and got this:
by barnacle bill

Thank you...and when YET MORE folk Google me, YET MORE WILL FIND,
that VIOLENCE and LIES are all "YOU" have to attack me with, but still
MUST KEEP ATTACKING me, because "YOU" have NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS
to what I FREELY SHARE - REAL WORLD EVIDENCE of
THE VERY BEST NEWS EVER!
Wink Very Happy

P.S. and for an "anti" DAVID ICKE Forum, "YOU" spend an AWFUL LOT
of time and effort, ATTACKING THE ONE POSTER HERE, WITH THE
INSIDE DIRT on THE "STAR POSTER"=PUPPET MASTER of David Icke:
"tintin" a.k.a. "Aarnout van der Plooge".

"YOU" KNOW, THE GUY who with INSANE PUBLIC PASSION, DEMANDS
THE DESTRUCTION of JEWS AND ISRAEL
, WHILE ALSO PUBLICLY,
LOUDLY and OFTEN, having STATED THAT:
"AUSTRALIA IS THE REAL ISRAEL"=AUSTRALIA IS THE REAL TARGET.

P.P.S.
Oh and WHY MUST "YOU" CONTINUE to SPAM such bald faced lies:
barnacle bill wrote:LIES that "this is a true lilly quote":
I hate joooz, the Torah and Israel.........

I
vill take the joooooz holy scripture and deform it to fit my
antisemitic/anti Israel agenda.........sieg hiel!!!!!!


BECAUSE "YOU" have NO COUNTER ARGUMENT...and IN FACT,
ADD TO the case I've made...

true lilly wrote:YEP, there is an AWFUL LOT of ALTERING,
CHANGING and INTERFERING with the
Threads, Posts and
COMPUTERS and PHONES of INDIVIDUALS

going
on lately I tend to refrain from explaining too much these days, as
newbies know they can ask for clarifications, and the rest, well if they
haven't twigged by now, likely never will, but those who know, know, if
I post it, it's worth looking into.
See, "THEY" DEMAND
THE WORLD BELIEVE
(AGAINST ALL REAL WORLD EVIDENCE),
that,
WHEN GOD SAID:
FROM THE BEGINNING,
ALL THE WORLD,
ALL THE EARTH,
ALL PEOPLES,
GOD DID "not" MEAN IT,
so that the world will
DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH
and JOIN "THEM" in PERMANENT DEATH.


Oh and while I think of it:
why, "The 99% Campaign"...
because GOD SAID He'd Preserve Alive,
90-95%, to re-plant, re-build and help
HEAL ALL THE WORLD
,
BUT "THEY" DON'T WANT ANY HEALING
and, as "cori/tintin" PROUDLY BOAST,
"THEY" WANT 99.9% of ALL HUMANS DEAD.


SEE "THEY" WORSHIP "THEIR" NUMBers Game.
The Majority NUMBers "win".
"winning" TO "THEM" IS DYING TO KILL.

And yes, "THEY" ARE THOSE WHO ATTACK ME,
FOR SHOWING that GOD KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES,
that includes, not only preserving enough
humans
to heal the world, but also RESURRECTING Those
who died the first death, but repented of having
denied The Holy Spirit of Truth.


P.S. SOD, can you please include
the USUALLY COMMON Forum Feature
that INCLUDES THE LINK TO QUOTED POSTS?

Yeah I know, it would defeat the purpose of
outnumbering this one real individuals posts
with "tintin's" Multiple I.D. OFF TOPIC,
SPAM-BOT CRAP that FLOODS OUT what "THEY"
ARE TERRIFIED OTHERS MAY READ and CONSIDER,
...that's why I ask, and DON'T expect.
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Re: Apocalypse=REVELATION, NOT 'the end of the world'...

Post  MoMo on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:37 am

Bullshit lilly, I've countered every one of your false arguments, you have never replied. Define Zion....Mizraim.....Torah.........Israel..........you attack the jews, the Torah and Israel, you quote scripture like satan to distort and deform it to fit YOUR agenda....... thumbs up


......................For those who falsely claim that Yahshua Messiah/Jesus 'Did away with' the Torah/Laws of YHWH, I challenge you to explain these verses of Scripture.

http://www.eliyah.com/thescriptures/

Matthew 4
1 Then Yahshua was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.

2 And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.

3 And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the set- apart city, set Him on the edge of the Set- apart Place,

6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, throw Yourself down. For it has been written, ‘He shall command His messengers concerning you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, so that you do not dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Yahshua said to him, “It has also been written, ‘You shall not try YHWH your Elohim.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on a very high mountain, and showed Him all the reigns of the world, and their esteem,

9 and said to Him, “All these I shall give You if You fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Yahshua said to him, “Go, Satan! For it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and Him alone you shall serve.’



Yahshua cites Torah 3 Times with Authority....beaware of the False Teachers.

Is the New Testament Yahweh's Word?

Don't Accept The New Testament As Yahweh's Word On The Basis Of Human Tradition

http://www.serveyahweh.org/Religion/newtestament.htm

In the context of the New Testament canon Yahweh's people should not accept that the New Testament is Yahweh's word simply on the basis of human tradition. For Yah'shuah has shown that human tradition is NOT the basis for determining true worship. The New Testament, or any portion of it, should only be accepted as Yahweh's word only where it is fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment. But if it, or any portion of it, is not fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment it cannot and should not be accepted as Yahweh's word or commandment!



Live By Every Word That Proceeds Out Of Yahweh's Mouth
Matthew 4:4 reads,

4:4But he answered, "It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’"

In these comments Yah'shuah quoted from Moses' words to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 8:3,

8:3He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn’t know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh does man live.



Truth Is Yahweh's Word

John 17:17 reads,

17:17Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.

It is therefore clear from Yah'shuah's words that human beings are to live by every word proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh. He also defines truth as Yahweh's word. Therefore living by the truth is living by Yahweh's word, living by Yahweh's commandment. This is what human beings are to live by, and not by human tradition, especially human tradition contrary to Yahweh's word.



To Believe Yah'shuah/Jesus You Must Believe Moses' Writings
John 5:46-47 reads,

5:46For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote about me. 5:47But if you don’t believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

Yah'shuah's words show that it is necessary for one to believe Moses' writings in order to believe him. In other words, those who believe Moses' writings are the ones who believe Yah'shuah, and those who do not believe Moses' writings are the one who do not believe Yah'shuah. Yah'shuah therefore implicitly affirmed that Moses' writings are indeed Yahweh's word.



Yah'shuah Didn't Destroy The Law Or The Prophets

Matthew 5:17-18 reads,

5:17"Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Yah'shuah therefore affirmed that the law and the prophets, the writings he affirmed as Yahweh's word, would continue in applicability even up to the time of the passing away of heaven and earth. Seeing that heaven and earth are still with us it is indeed the conclusion that nothing has passed away from the law, and it remains in full application.



Yah'shuah Commanded His Disciples To Abide By Moses' Authority

Matthew 23:1-4 reads,

23:1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 23:2saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses’ seat. 23:3All things therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do, but don’t do their works; for they say, and don’t do. 23:4For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.

Yah'shuah commanded human beings, including his disciples, to abide by the authority vested in Moses. In other words, he simply affirmed his word in Matthew 5:17-18, on the continuing applicability of the law or Yahweh's word as delivered by Moses to the children of Israel.



Believe What The Prophets Have Spoken

Luke 24:25-27 reads,

24:25He said to them, "Foolish men, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 24:26Didn’t the Christ have to suffer these things, and to enter into his glory?" 24:27Beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he explained to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

Yah'shuah's usage of the writings of Moses and those of the prophets shows that he acknowledged these as Yahweh's word. For in Matthew 4 and 15 he clearly taught that human beings are to live only by Yahweh's word, and here he was indeed teaching his disciples by the writings of Moses and the prophets. Yah'shuah therefore acknowledged that the writings of Moses and the prophets are indeed Yahweh's word.


Live By The Writings In The Law Of Moses, The Prophets And The Psalms

Luke 24:42-49 reads,

24:42They gave him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 24:43He took it, and ate in front of them. 24:44He said to them, "This is what I told you, while I was still with you, that all things which are written in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me must be fulfilled."

24:45Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures. 24:46He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 24:47and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 24:48You are witnesses of these things. 24:49Behold, I send forth the promise of my Father on you. But wait in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high."

According to Yah'shuah the collection of writings that made up Yahweh's word, what all human beings are to live by, is that called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms - what is today called the Old Testament. This is synonymous with the Scriptures, according to the author of the above words - Luke.



Yah'shuah's Disciples Of All Nations Are To Observe The Things He Personally Commanded His Disciples
Matthew 28:18-20 reads,

28:18Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. 28:19Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 28:20teaching them to observe all things which I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Yah'shuah clearly commanded his disciples to teach new disciples of all nations to observe all things that he had commanded his disciples. He commanded them to live by every word that proceeds out of Yahweh's mouth. He also showed them that Yahweh's word is contained in the writings called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms (writings), now commonly known as the Old Testament. Therefore, the things that Yah'shuah's disciples are to observe are those that are contained in the writings commonly called the Old Testament. For observing the things in these writings is indeed living by words proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh, seeing that words that proceeded out of Yahweh's mouth are contained in these writings.



Yahweh's Word To His Disciples Concerning Verification Of Words

Isaiah 8:16-20 reads,

8:16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 8:17I will wait for Yahweh, who hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 8:18Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Hosts, who dwells in Mount Zion. 8:19When they shall tell you, "Consult with those who have familiar spirits and with the wizards, who chirp and who mutter:" shouldn’t a people consult with their God? On behalf of the living should they consult with the dead? 8:20To the law and to the testimony! If they don’t speak according to this word, surely there is no morning for them.

8:16 clearly shows that the testimony (prophets and writings) and the law (of Moses) should be bound and sealed among Yahweh's disciples. And in matters of light Yahweh's disciples are not to consult with forces of darkness. They are to consult only the law and the testimony. In other words, the very writings that Yah'shuah later used in affirming that he was indeed the Messiah, the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings, are the very same ones that Yahweh commands his disciples to consult. For light is contained in his word, which is recorded in these writings. And anyone speaking contrary to his word in these writings is devoid of light. In other words, any writing that is contrary to the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings is not Yahweh's word, but a word and work of darkness!



Another Test Yahweh Gives His People Concerning Verification Of Words

Deuteronomy 18:9-22 reads,

18:9When you are come into the land which Yahweh your God gives you, you shall not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 18:10There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer, 18:11or a charmer, or a consulter with a familiar spirit, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12For whoever does these things is an abomination to Yahweh: and because of these abominations Yahweh your God does drive them out from before you. 18:13You shall be perfect with Yahweh your God. 18:14For these nations, that you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice sorcery, and to diviners; but as for you, Yahweh your God has not allowed you so to do. 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; 18:16according to all that you desired of Yahweh your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Yahweh my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I not die. 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken. 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. 18:19It shall happen, that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. 18:21If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken? 18:22When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn’t follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.



Don't Listen To Those Who Practice Abominations

Yahweh clearly warned the children of Israel not to listen to those who practice abominations - the practices of darkness as seen in Isaiah 8:16-20. It is on account of both practising these abominations and listening to the practitioners of these abominations that Yahweh cast out of the land of Canaan those who inhabited it prior to the children of Israel
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................The Hebrew Bible, Old and New Testaments inform us that: Life is precious and History is meaningful, unlike David Ickes assertion that life is an Illusion, the Biblical view is more scientifically astute: The World is not AS we perceive it but it is very real. The Bible entrains our 6th Sense so that we may perceive realities beyond the 5 sense world.

The 5 Senses do not detect infrared, ultraviolet, radio waves, x-rays etc..yet they exist. The unaided human eye cannot perceive Atoms, protons, quarks etc.yet they exist......We see the Unity of existence, the ground that sustains being, the interconnexion of ALL Life.

The Creator is 'unseen' yet we learn to see through the surface of reality. We are never alone.

The Torah overcomes the Reptilian/Mammalian Brain Centers. Teaches us to become impeccably honest, to be non-exploitive, loving, altruistic. to be a Shepherd not a Predator.

In Hebraic Thought the whole Function of the Torah is to turn the Soul away from the things of the Flesh. FROM egoistic TO Altruistic. During our life our Soul either attaches itself to the things of Flesh, the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit-The Path of Light, becoming a Child of the Light.

When the False prophets and teachers tell us that Jesus 'did away with the Torah/Instruction/Laws of YHWH'...........they lie, they deceive........they mislead innocents onto the Path of Darkness........rodin; suzi woo woo: you must learn, before you die, to Play the Game Clean. You must learn why deceiving, cheating, exploiting are losing propositions and they harm you more then the people you harm by doing those sordid things.


Great harm is done to our societies as these once recognized undesirable charateristics are now exalted and presented as paradigms for behaviour.....................................The Good Newz is that there IS a Paradigm Shift-We are in a Transit between two Ages......The Age of Production and Accumulation TO the Age of Integrity and Restoration.

"Ahavta yirecha Kamocha"= Love your neighbor as yourself.

In humans the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment. And periodically they scream from the dungeons of their minds demanding their Freedom.

The Biblical Commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and limitations and restrictions on people limiting their Freedom, but rather as a Divine communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing humanbeings how life works and what to do and not to do to make the best of it.

Within the Torah/mitzvot/commandments are all the neccessary instructions for human conduct, in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap benefit from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe.


Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions.
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One of the first things we should learn in our search for the true Savior is His Name. The importance of knowing this Man's Name cannot be overstated. Names were and are very important to the Hebrew people, and their meanings are of great significance, not only to individuals, but also to entire families.

The name Jesus is an invention of man which in no way carries the meaning of the true Name of this Man mentioned in the New Testament. The simple fact (which is easily proven from authoritative sources) is that this man was born a Hebrew and He had a Hebrew name. There is no such name as Jesus in the Hebrew language.

Reading from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 10, page 10, we find that the supposed name Jesus is actually the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.

JESUS (d. 30 c.e.), whom Christianity sees as its founder and object of faith, was a Jew who lived toward the end of the Second Commonwealth period......The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 12, page 805, gives us additional information, concerning the Hebrew spelling of Joshua, which is yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin.


This source also points out to us that this Name, correctly pronounced Yahshua, is a compound name constructed with the Tetragrammaton,which is the Name: YAHWEH, . The Name Yahshua follows the common practice among the true worshippers of Yahweh, in forming and using compound names which brought glory to Yahweh's Name....................The Name Yahshua is just such a compound Name. It is a combination of Yahweh's Name in a personal name (YAH: yod-heh) and SHUA (shin-ayin), which means salvation. The Hebrew-English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver, and Briggs, page 221, tells us that the Name Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. ............The Law of Yahweh, which Yahshua and the apostles preached, plainly tells us that Yahweh is one.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5—
4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is one.
5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. ....................................The prophets further testified that Yahweh is the only source of power and there is no pagan God with Him at all.

Isayah 43:10-12—
10 You are My witnesses, says Yahweh, and My servants whom I have chosen; so you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He! before me there was no God (el) formed, nor will there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and no strange god (el) is among you! Therefore, you are My witnesses, says Yahweh: that I AM YAHWEH!

Isayah 44:8—
Do not fear, nor be afraid. Have I not told you from that time, and have declared; You are My witnesses! Is there a source of power except Me? Truly, there is no other rock; I know not one.

Isayah 45:6,18—
6 So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that There is none besides me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other!
18 For this is what Yahweh, Who created the heavens, Who is the Father, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain, Who formed it to be inhabited, says: I am Yahweh, and there is no other source of power!


It should now be obvious to anyone that the apostles, as well as the prophets, did not believe in or teach a pre-existent God-savior. The apostles clearly taught against pagan Godworship, the same worship all Christianity teaches today.

Romans 1:20-25—
20 For since the creation of the world, the invisible things of Him are clearly seen—His eternal power and holiness—being understood by the things that are written; so that they are without excuse.
21 Because that, when they knew Yahweh, they did not glorify Him as Father, nor were thankful, but became idolatrous; Godworshipers (worshipers of elohim), in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools; simpletons,
23 And exchanged the glory of the uncorruptible Father for images, made to resemble corruptible man, and birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Therefore, Yahweh also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own minds, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who exchanged the truth of Yahweh for the Lie; Lords (Baalim), Gods, and Goddesses (Elohim), and worshiped and served the creation, rather than the creator, Who is blessed forever. Praise Yahweh! HalleluYahweh!


I Corinthians 10:20-22—
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to Yahweh; and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of Yahweh's table and of the table of demons.
22 Do we provoke Yahweh to jealousy? are we stronger than He ?


II Corinthians 6:14-18—
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with unright-eousness? and what fellowship does light have with darkness?
15 And what harmony can there be between Messiah and Belial; Worthlessness: Satan? Or what share does a believer have with an infidel; untrustworthy, not faithful, not true nor loyal?
16 And what agreement does The House of Yahweh have with Gods (elohim)? for we are The House of the living Father. As Yahweh has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their Father, and they will be my people.
17 Therefore: come out from among them and be separate, says Yahweh. Do not touch the unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says Yahweh Almighty.


II Corinthians 4:4—
For the god (el) of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.


Romans 6:15-16—
15 What? May we sin as though we are not under the Law, yet under Yahweh's undeserved pardon? by no means!
16 Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey—whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

I Yahchanan 3:7-9—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whoever is begotten of Yahweh does not commit sin; for His seed remains in Him; and it is possible for him not to sin, because he has been begotten of Yahweh.


I Yahchanan 5:18-21—
18 We know that whoever is born of Yahweh does not sin; but he who has been begotten of Yahweh keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we belong to Yahweh, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come, and has given us an understanding, in order that we may know Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true, for we are in His Son, Yahshua. Yahweh is the true Father, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from the defilement of Gods (elohim).


Revelation 18:2-5—
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 Gor all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues,
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh has remembered her iniquities!

However, the apostles knew Yahweh's Plan which called for a man to be born who would be sacrificed for the past sins of many. They also knew that this man would be raised again by Yahweh.........................Yahweh has always revealed Himself as our Father. Yahshua Messiah taught His twelve apostles to pray to Yahweh, and to begin their prayers to Him as "Our Father."

As you read for yourself, you will find that Yahshua taught His disciples, those who obeyed Yahweh, to pray in the following manner.

Luke 11:2—
So He said to them: When you pray, using this example, say: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be; to show reverence and respect to, Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done; as it is in heaven, so may it be in earth.

In their ministry, the disciples spoke of Yahweh as the Father of Yahshua, saying this specifically in the following Scriptures:

Ephesians 1:17—
Asking that the Father of our King, Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation; unveiling and uncovering truths, for the full knowledge of Him.


I Kepha 1:3—
Blessed be Yahweh, the Father of our King Yahshua Messiah, Who, according to His abundant mercy, has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah from the dead;


I Corinthians 8:5-6—
5 For even though there are many called gods (elohim), whether in heaven or on earth (As there are many gods; elohim, and many lords; baalim.),
6 Yet to us there is only One Authority, the Father, from Whom all things came and for Whom we live. And there is but one King, Yahshua Messiah, on Whose account are all things, and on whose account we live .


However, to the disobedient, Yahshua said:

Yahchanan 8:44—
You are of your teacher who is Satan the Devil, and whatever she who is your teacher desires, you will do. She was a murderer from the beginning, and remained not in the truth, because there is no truth in her. Therefore, when you speak your falsehoods, you speak her words, because she is a liar, and the teacher of all lies!

The Holy Scriptures show that we accept one of two beings as our head. We can either accept Yahweh as our Father (head) or we can accept Satan as our head.

Through this world's lust to break the Laws of Yahweh, they have rejected Yahweh as their Father, while accepting Satan the adversary as their head. By doing this, they have become the people of the devil, as the Apostle Shaul describes in the following Scriptures, because they did not like to retain Yahweh in their knowledge..............................................Yahshua Messiah said the following.

Yahchanan 6:44—
No man can come to Me, unless the Father, Who has sent Me, draws him; and I will establish him as a priest at the last day.

When we are called out of this world by Yahweh's Holy Spirit and begin to understand the importance of Yahweh's Holy Scriptures in our lives, we, even then, are only half of the creation Yahweh requires us to be, in order for us to enter His Kingdom. To understand this, we must understand the Plan of Yahweh.

When Yahshua was resurrected from the dead, He became the firstborn of many brothers.

Romans 8:29—
For whom He did foreknow, He also did foreordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

When we are conformed to Yahshua we will also be conformed to the Father Yahweh, because Yahshua conformed to be exactly like the Father.

Hebrews 1:3—
Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the prophets, when He had purged sin, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high;


http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Shaul-Do-Away.pdf



Much like the Christian NAZIs that preceeded you, you are ignorant an ddon't know what you speak of. I see through you like I see through the water that flows down my drain. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

Based on years of archival research, The Aryan Jesus examines the membership and activities of this controversial theological organization. With headquarters in Eisenach, the Institute sponsored propaganda conferences throughout the Nazi Reich and published books defaming Judaism, including a dejudaized version of the New Testament and a catechism proclaiming Jesus as the savior of the Aryans. Institute members--professors of theology, bishops, and pastors--viewed their efforts as a vital support for Hitler's war against the Jews. Heschel looks in particular at Walter Grundmann, the Institute's director and a professor of the New Testament at the University of Jena. Grundmann and his colleagues formed a community of like-minded Nazi Christians who remained active and continued to support each other in Germany's postwar years.

The Aryan Jesus raises vital questions about Christianity's recent past and the ambivalent place of Judaism in Christian thought.


ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.html

Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfilled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14

Already in 1971 the historian Uriel Tal challenged the entrenched view that racist antisemitism is a new phenomenon that repudiates Christianity by arguing that it was actually utterly dependent on Christian anti-Judaism for its success: “it was not the economic crises that brought about this new political, racial and antireligious antisemitism, but completely the reverse, it was precisely the anti-Christian and antireligious ideology of racial antisemitism which hampered the first antisemitic parties in their efforts to utilize the economic crisis for their political development . . . [because] what still attracted the masses was the classical, traditional Christian anti-Judaism, however adapted it may have become to the new economic conditions.”15 Tal demonstrated that Germany’s antisemitic, völkisch movements that arose in the nineteenth century had to abandon their initial anti-Christian stances in order to win supporters for whom Christian anti-Jewish arguments held profound political appeal.16 Even within the so-called “church struggle” between German Christians and the Confessing Church for control of the Protestant church, antisemitism became the glue that united the otherwise warring factions. Similarly, however much Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption, and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.

Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fighter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?

Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.

Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political significance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19 The German Christians sought control and radical reform of the Protestant church, which they never fully achieved, leading them to bitter complaints and, in some cases, demands for its demolition. Meanwhile, Christianity was not to be banned nor the churches outlawed; rather, as the historian Ernst Piper writes, Nazi strategy was to control the churches and lead to “a steadily advancing process of delegitimization and disassociation, of undermining and repression” that would undercut the church’s moral authority and position of respect.20 In its own supersessionist theology, an amalgam of Nazism and Christianity, with a rejection of church authority and doctrine, an assertion of German supremacy and Jewish degeneracy, and absurd revisions of the Bible, the German Protestant church contributed substantially to the Nazi project of undermining Christianity.

The establishment of the Institute in 1939 and the proliferation of its projects during the war years demonstrates that the antisemitism of the German Christians was not simply rhetorical, but was intended to lend active support to Nazi policies against the Jews—or, at times, to push those policies in more radical directions. Indeed, certain Protestant theologians stood at the forefront in discussions of the so-called Jewish problem; Gerhard Kittel’s notorious speech of May 1933, later published as a pamphlet, has been called the most antisemitic utterance of that year.21 In considering ways to rid Germany of Jews, Kittel proposed not only expulsion and guest status, but extermination (“Ausrottung”), a method he rejected only because it was too difficult to implement. On February 24–25, 1936, a few months after the proclamation of the Nuremberg Laws, but long before Jews were being deported and murdered, a group of theologians, some of whom subsequently became leaders of the Institute, met in Dresden to discuss a merger of the German Christian factions of the state churches of Thuringia and Saxony. During the course of the meeting, Siegfried Leffler, a German Christian leader, official in the Thuringian Ministry of Education, and, by 1939, figurehead of the Institute, stated:

In a Christian life, the heart always has to be disposed toward the Jew, and that’s how it has to be. As a Christian, I can, I must, and I ought always to have or to find a bridge to the Jew in my heart. But as a Christian, I also have to follow the laws of my nation [Volk], which are often presented in a very cruel way, so that again I am brought into the harshest of confl icts with the Jew. Even if I know “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment of God or “thou shalt love the Jew” because he too is a child of the eternal Father, I am able to know as well that I have to kill him, I have to shoot him, and I can only do that if I am permitted to say: Christ.22
What is striking is not only that Leffler spoke of killing Jews as early as February 1936, long before mass murder of the Jews became Nazi policy, but that there was no response to his comments from those attending, neither immediately nor later in the session; the discussion simply continued as if murder of Jews in the name of Christ was a customary topic.23 The aryanization of Jesus into a manly, heroic, fighting spirit reflected among the theologians the “heroic realism” that prevailed in the 1930s within right-wing political thought. That “heroism” meant killing one’s opponent without emotion but in accord with principles of natural law, in defense of one’s own race and at the cost of personal sacrifice.24 Paul Althaus, professor of theology at the University of Erlangen and a noted ethicist, was present at the meeting, but expressed nothing to indicate that he was appalled or disturbed by Leffler’s remarks. The lack of outrage is evidence that ridding Germany of Jews had become an acceptable point of discussion among theologians, even when murder was proposed as a technique of achieving it. The Nuremberg Laws, while perceived by many German Jews as protection from far worse legislation, were viewed as an encouragement by the German Christian movement to take even more radical positions. Legal cases in German courts, brought in the wake of the Nuremberg Laws’ criminalization of sexual relations and marriage between Jews and Aryans, and widely reported in the German press, implicated Jews as sexual predators of Aryans, further encouraging Christian theologians to insist on protecting Christian purity by eradicating Jewishness with even more radical measures.25 The penetration of Christian bodies by Jewish sex reiterated a typical motif of racist rhetoric, the dangers of miscegenation, and reinforced fears that Aryanism was not immutable, but subject to destruction by Jews.26 Antisemites had long insisted that German Aryan women were vulnerable to Jewish predation, and Jesus, whose gentleness and suffering was viewed as effeminate by German Christians, was depicted in one caricature as an Aryan woman on a cross with a lecherous Jewish man in the foreground: the crucifixion as the Jewish rape of Germany. ............................


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Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:51 am


Pet owner Christine White wants answers
after her two beloved rottweilers died
of suspected carbon monoxide poisoning
while on board the Spirit of Tasmania,
travelling to a dog show.
Picture: Bruce Magilton
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Oh, "on board The Spirit of a Dutchman"...

The Rottweiler originated in Rottweil, Germany.
The dogs were known as "Rottweil butchers' dogs"


German economy to slow next year - panel

And remember,
there are MORE GERMANS LEAVING GERMANY,
that Foreigners swarming in...AND,
Australia has ONLY sent
100 of 1370 ILLEGAL GERMAN'S
IN OZion
(to 30 June 2010), BACK TO GERMANY...

but then with so many GERMAN WW2 POW's,
sent here and being allowed to stay 'as' OZion's citizens
IN THIS LAND THEY PLAN TO TAKE FOR THEMSELVES,
and like so many of Their EUROPEAN Allies, LOOKING and
SPEAKING "like us", it's so easy for them to be hidden
amongst us...to "DISAPPEAR" WHILE AMONGST US...


Let's deport this terror boss
by:Alan Howe
From:Herald Sun
November 21, 2011
12:00AM
Abdul Nacer Benbrika.
Herald Sun

THE unrivalled success of Australia's postwar immigration tidal wave
- it has transformed our nation in ways we increasingly seldom bother
to observe - is besmirched by just two problems, and the time has come
to deal with them.

Too many foreigners implacably hostile to the notions of democracy,

equality and our liberal Western ways have been allowed to become
Australian citizens.

That's a fact.
The would-be mass killer Abdul Benbrika
and like-minded "Australian" Islamists
are evidence enough, the tip of a threatening iceberg
that floated unnoticed into Australian waters
not all that many years ago.


The 1949 Immigration Act, dated with nationalistic pride on January 26 that year,
did not foresee the rise of radical Islam nor its adherents' strategies
of entering Western nations like a computer virus that one day would
click to "on", in a way the fizzer Y2K bug failed to a decade back.

Related Coverage



This dog-eared and hurriedly drawn Act of Parliament, one of our
most important, also fails us today by severely restricting our ability
to deport from Australia, not just Trojan Horse Islamists, but deadly
violent men and women we failed to detect as they sailed through the
effortless steps to citizenship.

In recent days there has been news to dismay those of us who now realise
how hamstrung we are with simplistic rules set in place by the naively enthusiastic
Arthur Augustus Calwell, the 1940s federal minister whose immigration program
this is.

"Populate or perish," was Calwell's cry in the 1940s.
A Hansonite response today might be "populate and perish".
Pauline Hanson was a useful idiot for those racists who oppose our migration program,
and the attention given to her ignorant "views" on the subject deformed the national debate.
But that doesn't mean there aren't migrants here that we can do without.

Calwell, to become Opposition leader and so very nearly prime minister but for a
missing bit of DNA - the charisma gene - got much wrong in his life, but
his immigration plans changed the nation, and very much for the better in ways
even he could not have foreseen.

It's just the details I am quibbling with this morning,
minutia that one day might kill you, or me, or many of us.

That's what Algerian-born Benbrika and his team planned in 2005, but he was
at sixes and sevens: should he bomb the MCG on Grand Final day, or perhaps
the Flemington racecourse for the Melbourne Cup? Decisions, decisions.


His team was settled on just one thing: as many Australians, men, women,
children - it didn't matter - should die for the greatness of their god as they could muster.
It was quantity of murder they sought, not quality. If some Muslims were
inadvertently caught up in their firestorm, well, they might have to
divvy up the post-mortem virgins
between them.

The afterlife prospects of any Muslim women inadvertently killed in such an attack
were less clear.


Two members of Benbrika's terror cell were released the other day -
Aimen Joud and Ahmed Raad - after short sentences that are often
the hallmark of Victoria's justice system.

Neither can be deported.

They are the sons of Lebanese migrants and both were born here. It's why
Benbrika's strike team was described during its trial as a "home-grown"
terror network.

So they are our problem and, presumably, the Victorian and federal police
will monitor them very closely - indeed, forever - and at enormous expense
to you and me.

These are men, if I may use the term loosely, who entertained themselves
by watching videos of the beheading of infidels by Muslim extremists.
If they have abandoned their jihad against our Western values,
they are keeping that news to themselves.

But Benbrika, their ringleader, is another matter.

He's out in November 2017 and then free to begin plotting more mass murder,
to which he is committed.


He shouldn't even be in Australia. He overstayed a visitor's visa in 1989,
was declared an illegal immigrant and ordered out of the country. Three times.

Then he married a Lebanese woman
who had recently become an Australian citizen

and that secured his stay.
He then also became an Australian citizen.

Australia has routinely deported back to Britain bad men
who mistakenly thought they were citizens. And who can blame them?
They could vote, they could be called up to fight and die for "their" country,
and presumably they thought they were here for keeps.

There are about 900,000
"when it suits me" Australians still calling here home.


A by-product of that is our deporting New Zealanders six times more often
than any other nationality.


We also deported Swedish-born armed robber Stefan Nystrom after his jail term
and he'd lived here since he was just 27 days old.

But ridding ourselves of the malevolent and worthless Benbrika is trickier.

According to an Immigration Department spokesman Australian citizenship
can only be revoked "in very limited circumstances".

"There is no provision that enables citizenship to be revoked where a serious
offence is committed after citizenship has been acquired."

Effectively, this means you must have lied about your circumstances during the
migration or citizenship application processes. Well, here's good news.

I reckon Benbrika has.

When you become an Australian, you utter these words:
"From this time forward, I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey
."


No Islamist can say that
without wincing.


The lying Benbrika shares none of the democratic convictions that bind
us as Australians, and which President Barack Obama pointed out last
week in Canberra are not "American rights, or Australian rights, or
Western rights. They are human rights."

Since our first Immigration Act 62 years ago,
the citizenships of just 14 Australians have been revoked.
Let's make sure Abdul Benbrika, who wants to kill you and your children,
pushes that tally up to 15 when he is released in November 2017.

Even well-known criminal lawyer Rob Stary,
who has represented terrorism suspects,
and many an underdog - and more than a few dogs,
including Carl Williams - agrees with me:
"I think there should be a category of offenders
who should forfeit their citizenship."

He sees Benbrika as an example, and he believes
we should have the power to revoke citizenship for such criminals.

"I wouldn't have a blanket provision that once you are an Australian
citizen, you are immune to deportation or revocation of citizenship,"
Stary said.

Should we worry about Benbrika's seven children? No.
Should we worry about his naturalised Australian wife? No.
Let's just worry about us.

true lilly wrote:
Interesting because
the more 'they' scream at the world to wake up,
the more those, starting to SEE,
God's Saving Revelations,

are beaten, cowed and BOUGHT into SELLING
DENIAL of The Light of Truth,
so feared and hated by The Willingly Evil.
barnacle bill wrote:You should take your own advice and: READ ALL THE WORDS. And then keep these sacred words in their honest and proper context.

There, I fixed "your" quote. Lets not confuse folk about who the angry, ranting drunken bitches are ...now, back to my quotes, and reply, IN CONTEXT
Wink Razz
Don't "you" have someone other than "yourself"
to SPAM "YOUR" LONG AGO DEBUNKED LIES AT?

Haven't "YOU" done enough to prove that ALL "YOUR" LIES
ARE EXPOSED, BY, "YOUR" REFUSAL TO ACCEPT that when
GOD SAID, "FROM THE BEGINNING", that IS WHAT HE MEANT?

Haven't "YOU" done enough to prove that there is no free and
open church, teaching that what is described in Holy Scripture,
is supported by the recent discoveries of science?

Haven't "YOU" done enough to cause honest people to ask,
"WHY IS THAT SO?", AND SO, CAUSE them to DISCOVER
THE ANSWER, FOR THEMSELVES?

true lilly wrote:Ah "SNOOP", yet another 'name' that demands belief in
long ago debunked myths (while denying all meaningful
discoveries of modern science), to sell more fearful following
of Death Worshiping Religions, kept 'alive' by belief in the
'out of Egypt time line', that "They" LIE is 'Biblical'.

Sorry, but you can't debate what was told us about
THE BEGINNING of Life Forming on One Super Continent,
when you insist on SKIPPING EVERYTHING DESCRIBED
BEFORE that One Super Continent Divided and Formed
new lands (like Turkey and it's Young Mountains), leaving
an INSANELY SHORT time line, that you then try to shove
ALL ANCIENT EARTH & HUMAN HISTORY into, just to try
to 'make a lie out of God's Word', that warned us about
the secret agenda of Liars like "SNOOP", and Promised to
provide Revealing Proofs of The Truth of God's Word, such
as many I have shared over the years.


"OVERSTAYERS" COULD FILL A CITY
Overstayers could fill a city

Peter Mickelburough
EXCLUSIVE:

AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants
on the loose to fill a regional city -
and many are from Britain and America...

...oh, those Americans and Brits who would
rather be illegal Australians,
than legal Brits and Americans...


...hope at least some are on our side,
telling the truth of what 'secular democracy'
did to their once great nations.


SOCIAL MEDIA USED TO SPREAD BRITAIN'S RIOTS
Social media used to spread Britain's riots




The only answer Any Ruling Government has
to mass uprisings of VIOLENT TWITTERING IDIOTS,
IS, 'MORE EFFECTIVE'/DEADLY VIOLENCE.

Just what "tintin/David Icke/Julian Assange et al"
SLAVE to SPREAD OVER ALL THE WORLD.

And what happy slaves they are, enjoying their
5 Star Lifestyles and 5 Star PRIVATE SECURITY,
while driving the poor and powerless to riot and DIE,
TO MAINTAIN "their" WEALTH and SECURITY!


"OVERSTAYERS" COULD FILL A CITY
Overstayers could fill a city

Peter Mickelburough
EXCLUSIVE:
AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants on the loose
to populate a large regional city, documents show.


58 comments on this story

Interactive: Where they came from
Overstaying: Guests abuse their welcome
Editorial: Illegal immigrant crisis needs fixing

...and "They" won't be happy until our country
is like this...!!!



Protesters calling for,
the temporary military government in Egypt,
to cede power,
have been targeted by security forces
wielding tear gas and rubber bullets.

Seven people have been confirmed dead,
so far.


Picture: AFP
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Egypt's latest uprising

"Seven people have been confirmed dead,
so far.
"
, is ONLY the count SO FAR, for THIS,
LATEST round of violence,
"they've" whipped
the twittering masses into, all over the world.

Now if we would only send the UNGRATEFUL,
SELFISH, SELF SERVING, SPOILED BRAT, 'australian'
IDIOTS pushing "their" genocidal agenda here,
to those lands where, like DAVID ICKE Official Forums,
freely sharing the teachings of The Creator of Life,
IS BANNED and CAN GET YOU KILLED, maybe they
would finally see, that the first step to bloody downfalls,
is to turn your back on The Creator of Life and reject
The Wisdom of His Faithful Word.

As The Majority, in these Nations (like their RELIGIOUS Brothers,
The Majority in our OVER CROWDED Neighbouring Nations, using
every trick in the book to get into Australia), SO PROUDLY DO!

Oh, but "they" are DEMANDING DEMOCRACY!... that system
where The Majority of Twittering Idiots are "empowered" with
"voter numbers" to CHANGE OUR LAWS, FOR "THEIRS"!!!

That system that keeps making more of Europe look like...






WATCH VIDEOS:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/police-protestors-in-violent-tahrir-square-clash/story-e6frf7lf-1226200379179#

An Egyptian police vehicle burns as protesters chant during the clashes.

A member of the military council, Major General Mohsen el-Fangari,
said protesters' calls for change ahead of the election
were a threat to the state.


''What is the point of being in Tahrir?'' he asked,
speaking by phone to a private TV channel.


''What is the point of this strike, of the million marches?
Aren't there legal channels to pursue demands
in a way that
won't impact Egypt ... internationally?


''The aim of what is going on is to shake the backbone of the state,
which is the armed forces.''


Middle East and North Africa in turmoil
Anti-government protests are spreading rapidly
through the Middle East and North Africa.
Use this chart to keep up with all of the demonstrations,
day by day.
Click a country on the map or the tabs below to read more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/middle-east-protests/
true
lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:"tintin" WORSE than "Yellow"...
a LOVER of LIES, PLAGIARIST
(NOT a CREATIVE bone in him),
ANTI CREATOR, ANTI CREATION,
ANTI LIFE, ANTI TRUTH, and,
ANTI ANYONE DOING or RECEIVING
JUSTICE...
because NONE of HIS SELF GLORYING
is Justly earned or maintained...

ALL HE DOES is HUNT SACRIFICIAL Lambs
TO THROW to HIS WOLVES, and their
BLOODY REMAINS AT OTHER
WEAK, POWERLESS, INNOCENTS...

and, CAN'T SHUT UP about
WHAT A GREAT JOKE IT IS TO HIM
Evil or Very Mad
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3207
EVIL!

nope...not it yet...but compare how MANY 'names'
VIOLENTLY STORM against me, for daring to SHOW
that GOD'S WORD DOES DESCRIBE AUSTRALIA
to BE ZION, FOR ALL ISRAEL and FRIENDS...
...and NOTE 'THOSE NAMES' CALL FOR THE
DESTRUCTION of ISRAEL and FRIENDS...AND,
WANT THIS GLORIOUS LAND FOR THEMSELVES!

true lilly wrote:
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA

Severe storm warning for Victoria

6:27AM
Nathan Mawby

UPDATE 7am:

STORMS and lightning sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau

warning the worst is yet to come.

Biggest war of them all
VIDEO: Gamers turned out at midnight for
the launch of the highly anticipated
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3

P.S. these are ALL on Today's MURDOCH Herald Sun
FRONT PAGE.
I 'googled' true lilly images and got this:
by barnacle bill

Thank you...and when YET MORE folk Google me, YET MORE WILL FIND,
that VIOLENCE and LIES are all "YOU" have to attack me with, but still
MUST KEEP ATTACKING me, because "YOU" have NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS
to what I FREELY SHARE - REAL WORLD EVIDENCE of
THE VERY BEST NEWS EVER!
Wink Very Happy

P.S. and for an "anti" DAVID ICKE Forum, "YOU" spend an AWFUL LOT
of time and effort, ATTACKING THE ONE POSTER HERE, WITH THE
INSIDE DIRT on THE "STAR POSTER"=PUPPET MASTER of David Icke:
"tintin" a.k.a. "Aarnout van der Plooge".

"YOU" KNOW, THE GUY who with INSANE PUBLIC PASSION, DEMANDS
THE DESTRUCTION of JEWS AND ISRAEL
, WHILE ALSO PUBLICLY,
LOUDLY and OFTEN, having STATED THAT:
"AUSTRALIA IS THE REAL ISRAEL"=AUSTRALIA IS THE REAL TARGET.

P.P.S.
Oh and WHY MUST "YOU" CONTINUE to SPAM such bald faced lies:
barnacle bill wrote:LIES that "this is a true lilly quote":
I hate joooz, the Torah and Israel.........

I
vill take the joooooz holy scripture and deform it to fit my
antisemitic/anti Israel agenda.........sieg hiel!!!!!!


BECAUSE "YOU" have NO COUNTER ARGUMENT...and IN FACT,
ADD TO the case I've made...

true lilly wrote:YEP, there is an AWFUL LOT of ALTERING,
CHANGING and INTERFERING with the
Threads, Posts and
COMPUTERS and PHONES of INDIVIDUALS

going
on lately I tend to refrain from explaining too much these days, as
newbies know they can ask for clarifications, and the rest, well if they
haven't twigged by now, likely never will, but those who know, know, if
I post it, it's worth looking into.
See, "THEY" DEMAND
THE WORLD BELIEVE
(AGAINST ALL REAL WORLD EVIDENCE),
that,
WHEN GOD SAID:
FROM THE BEGINNING,
ALL THE WORLD,
ALL THE EARTH,
ALL PEOPLES,
GOD DID "not" MEAN IT,
so that the world will
DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH
and JOIN "THEM" in PERMANENT DEATH.


Oh and while I think of it:
why, "The 99% Campaign"...
because GOD SAID He'd Preserve Alive,
90-95%, to re-plant, re-build and help
HEAL ALL THE WORLD
,
BUT "THEY" DON'T WANT ANY HEALING
and, as "cori/tintin" PROUDLY BOAST,
"THEY" WANT 99.9% of ALL HUMANS DEAD.


SEE "THEY" WORSHIP "THEIR" NUMBers Game.
The Majority NUMBers "win".
"winning" TO "THEM" IS DYING TO KILL.

And yes, "THEY" ARE THOSE WHO ATTACK ME,
FOR SHOWING that GOD KEEPS ALL HIS PROMISES,
that includes, not only preserving enough
humans
to heal the world, but also RESURRECTING Those
who died the first death, but repented of having
denied The Holy Spirit of Truth.


P.S. SOD, can you please include
the USUALLY COMMON Forum Feature
that INCLUDES THE LINK TO QUOTED POSTS?

Yeah I know, it would defeat the purpose of
outnumbering this one real individuals posts
with "tintin's" Multiple I.D. OFF TOPIC,
SPAM-BOT CRAP that FLOODS OUT what "THEY"
ARE TERRIFIED OTHERS MAY READ and CONSIDER,
...that's why I ask, and DON'T expect.
Razz
Thousands of migrants 'disappear' in cities under new official system
By Steve Doughty

Last updated at 2:17 AM on 21st November 2011

Hundreds of thousands of migrants have ‘disappeared’ at the stroke of a pen under a new official counting system.

The method has led to apparent large falls in the numbers of migrants thought to live in London and other major cities.


The change has provoked fury among council leaders who say the immigrant populations
of their districts have been grossly underestimated by government statisticians.



Migrants 'disappear': London, Manchester, Bristol, Cambridge and Oxford
are among cities who have had 'large downward revisions' from
the new counting method


Westminster and Kensington in London, Manchester, Bristol, Oxford and Cambridge
are among places thought to have had their estimated populations reduced
by many thousands by the Office for National Statistics.


Colin Barrow, Tory leader of Westminster, said: ‘After four years of work
supposedly improving migration estimates, the ONS apparently still has
little idea how many migrants are in this country or where they live and
work.


‘Our incoming migrant population appears to have dropped by 17 per cent over four
years; you only have to go out into the bars and restaurants in the West End to see
that migrants come to Westminster to live and work in much greater numbers than this.’


More...
More than nine out of ten migrants to the UK live in England,
which has become the sixth most crowded major country in the world,
the MigrationWatch think-tank said last week.

Last year net migration was 239,000.

The new estimates method, to be used from next year onwards, uses the same source
of immigration statistics the ONS has always used. This is the
International Passenger Survey, a check on intentions of arrivals at air
and sea ports and on the Eurostar.


From this researchers use a complex formula, based on other official population
databases, to estimate the number of yearly arrivals.

Under the new method, this formula has been tweaked, resulting in changes to
the estimated numbers arriving at certain towns and cities.



Only 4,000?
The new estimate pins the number of migrants in 2009 in Westminster
to just 4,000.
Tory leader Colin Barrow finds this seriously questionable
.

Some have fallen while others have risen, but the total remains unchanged.

Westminster’s migrant population has been reduced by 10,000, and Manchester’s and
Bristol’s each by 30,000. According to ONS briefing papers, Kensington and Chelsea,
Oxford and Cambridge have had ‘quite large downward revisions’.


Mr Barrow said: ‘We would seriously question the estimate that fewer than 4,000
migrants came to Westminster in the 2009 financial year to seek work.

'We have seen more people registering with doctors and paying council tax in
Westminster, so we fail to understand how the government statisticians can be so wrong.’


Councils can lose millions in Treasury grants if Whitehall cuts their population estimates.

The ONS was scheduled to publish papers about the new migration counting
system last week, but failed to do so. Some places are said to show a
higher count, such as Newham, East London, with a 13 per cent increase.

The ONS declined to comment yesterday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064087/Migrants-disappear-Thousands-migrants-counted-cities-new-official-system.html#ixzz1eJCwqHiG

And now, after 16 YEARS of SCATTERING, MIXING, MINGLING,
AND LOSING, SELF CONFESSED ANTI CHRISTS, ALL OVER what
remained of (once civil), Christian Faith Based, European Nations,
that NOW HAVE FELLOW COUNTRYMEN ATTACKING EACH OTHER,

The FOREWARNED, Closing of Boarders, BEGINS...!!!...while,
"Those" SAME ANTI CHRISTS
KEEP DEMANDING that
WE LETS THEM FLOOD UNCONTROLLED INTO AUSTRALIA!!!


"Sorry. We don't know where your cat is"




EU moves to end
passport-free Schengen travel

The European Union has moved toward
reversing passport free travel
across the
continent
amid fears of a wave of migrants
fleeing unrest in north Africa.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8511019/EU-moves-to-end-passport-free-Schengen-travel.html
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Re: Apocalypse=REVELATION, NOT 'the end of the world'...

Post  mugglez on Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:42 am

el kabong wrote:Bullshit lilly, I've countered every one of your false arguments, you have never replied. Define Zion....Mizraim.....Torah.........Israel..........you attack the jews, the Torah and Israel, you quote scripture like satan to distort and deform it to fit YOUR agenda....... thumbs up


......................For those who falsely claim that Yahshua Messiah/Jesus 'Did away with' the Torah/Laws of YHWH, I challenge you to explain these verses of Scripture.

http://www.eliyah.com/thescriptures/

Matthew 4
1 Then Yahshua was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the devil.

2 And after having fasted forty days and forty nights, He was hungry.

3 And the trier came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the set- apart city, set Him on the edge of the Set- apart Place,

6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of Elohim, throw Yourself down. For it has been written, ‘He shall command His messengers concerning you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, so that you do not dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

7 Yahshua said to him, “It has also been written, ‘You shall not try YHWH your Elohim.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on a very high mountain, and showed Him all the reigns of the world, and their esteem,

9 and said to Him, “All these I shall give You if You fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Yahshua said to him, “Go, Satan! For it has been written, ‘You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and Him alone you shall serve.’



Yahshua cites Torah 3 Times with Authority....beaware of the False Teachers.

Is the New Testament Yahweh's Word?

Don't Accept The New Testament As Yahweh's Word On The Basis Of Human Tradition

http://www.serveyahweh.org/Religion/newtestament.htm

In the context of the New Testament canon Yahweh's people should not accept that the New Testament is Yahweh's word simply on the basis of human tradition. For Yah'shuah has shown that human tradition is NOT the basis for determining true worship. The New Testament, or any portion of it, should only be accepted as Yahweh's word only where it is fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment. But if it, or any portion of it, is not fully in harmony with Yahweh's commandment it cannot and should not be accepted as Yahweh's word or commandment!



Live By Every Word That Proceeds Out Of Yahweh's Mouth
Matthew 4:4 reads,

4:4But he answered, "It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’"

In these comments Yah'shuah quoted from Moses' words to the children of Israel in Deuteronomy 8:3,

8:3He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn’t know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of Yahweh does man live.



Truth Is Yahweh's Word

John 17:17 reads,

17:17Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.

It is therefore clear from Yah'shuah's words that human beings are to live by every word proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh. He also defines truth as Yahweh's word. Therefore living by the truth is living by Yahweh's word, living by Yahweh's commandment. This is what human beings are to live by, and not by human tradition, especially human tradition contrary to Yahweh's word.



To Believe Yah'shuah/Jesus You Must Believe Moses' Writings
John 5:46-47 reads,

5:46For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote about me. 5:47But if you don’t believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"

Yah'shuah's words show that it is necessary for one to believe Moses' writings in order to believe him. In other words, those who believe Moses' writings are the ones who believe Yah'shuah, and those who do not believe Moses' writings are the one who do not believe Yah'shuah. Yah'shuah therefore implicitly affirmed that Moses' writings are indeed Yahweh's word.



Yah'shuah Didn't Destroy The Law Or The Prophets

Matthew 5:17-18 reads,

5:17"Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.

Yah'shuah therefore affirmed that the law and the prophets, the writings he affirmed as Yahweh's word, would continue in applicability even up to the time of the passing away of heaven and earth. Seeing that heaven and earth are still with us it is indeed the conclusion that nothing has passed away from the law, and it remains in full application.



Yah'shuah Commanded His Disciples To Abide By Moses' Authority

Matthew 23:1-4 reads,

23:1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 23:2saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses’ seat. 23:3All things therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do, but don’t do their works; for they say, and don’t do. 23:4For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.

Yah'shuah commanded human beings, including his disciples, to abide by the authority vested in Moses. In other words, he simply affirmed his word in Matthew 5:17-18, on the continuing applicability of the law or Yahweh's word as delivered by Moses to the children of Israel.



Believe What The Prophets Have Spoken

Luke 24:25-27 reads,

24:25He said to them, "Foolish men, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 24:26Didn’t the Christ have to suffer these things, and to enter into his glory?" 24:27Beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he explained to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

Yah'shuah's usage of the writings of Moses and those of the prophets shows that he acknowledged these as Yahweh's word. For in Matthew 4 and 15 he clearly taught that human beings are to live only by Yahweh's word, and here he was indeed teaching his disciples by the writings of Moses and the prophets. Yah'shuah therefore acknowledged that the writings of Moses and the prophets are indeed Yahweh's word.


Live By The Writings In The Law Of Moses, The Prophets And The Psalms

Luke 24:42-49 reads,

24:42They gave him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 24:43He took it, and ate in front of them. 24:44He said to them, "This is what I told you, while I was still with you, that all things which are written in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me must be fulfilled."

24:45Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures. 24:46He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 24:47and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 24:48You are witnesses of these things. 24:49Behold, I send forth the promise of my Father on you. But wait in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high."

According to Yah'shuah the collection of writings that made up Yahweh's word, what all human beings are to live by, is that called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms - what is today called the Old Testament. This is synonymous with the Scriptures, according to the author of the above words - Luke.



Yah'shuah's Disciples Of All Nations Are To Observe The Things He Personally Commanded His Disciples
Matthew 28:18-20 reads,

28:18Jesus came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. 28:19Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 28:20teaching them to observe all things which I commanded you. Behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Yah'shuah clearly commanded his disciples to teach new disciples of all nations to observe all things that he had commanded his disciples. He commanded them to live by every word that proceeds out of Yahweh's mouth. He also showed them that Yahweh's word is contained in the writings called the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms (writings), now commonly known as the Old Testament. Therefore, the things that Yah'shuah's disciples are to observe are those that are contained in the writings commonly called the Old Testament. For observing the things in these writings is indeed living by words proceeding out of the mouth of Yahweh, seeing that words that proceeded out of Yahweh's mouth are contained in these writings.



Yahweh's Word To His Disciples Concerning Verification Of Words

Isaiah 8:16-20 reads,

8:16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 8:17I will wait for Yahweh, who hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 8:18Behold, I and the children whom Yahweh has given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from Yahweh of Hosts, who dwells in Mount Zion. 8:19When they shall tell you, "Consult with those who have familiar spirits and with the wizards, who chirp and who mutter:" shouldn’t a people consult with their God? On behalf of the living should they consult with the dead? 8:20To the law and to the testimony! If they don’t speak according to this word, surely there is no morning for them.

8:16 clearly shows that the testimony (prophets and writings) and the law (of Moses) should be bound and sealed among Yahweh's disciples. And in matters of light Yahweh's disciples are not to consult with forces of darkness. They are to consult only the law and the testimony. In other words, the very writings that Yah'shuah later used in affirming that he was indeed the Messiah, the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings, are the very same ones that Yahweh commands his disciples to consult. For light is contained in his word, which is recorded in these writings. And anyone speaking contrary to his word in these writings is devoid of light. In other words, any writing that is contrary to the law of Moses, the prophets and the writings is not Yahweh's word, but a word and work of darkness!



Another Test Yahweh Gives His People Concerning Verification Of Words

Deuteronomy 18:9-22 reads,

18:9When you are come into the land which Yahweh your God gives you, you shall not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 18:10There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer, 18:11or a charmer, or a consulter with a familiar spirit, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12For whoever does these things is an abomination to Yahweh: and because of these abominations Yahweh your God does drive them out from before you. 18:13You shall be perfect with Yahweh your God. 18:14For these nations, that you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice sorcery, and to diviners; but as for you, Yahweh your God has not allowed you so to do. 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; 18:16according to all that you desired of Yahweh your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Yahweh my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I not die. 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken. 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. 18:19It shall happen, that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. 18:21If you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which Yahweh has not spoken? 18:22When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing doesn’t follow, nor happen, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken: the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him.



Don't Listen To Those Who Practice Abominations

Yahweh clearly warned the children of Israel not to listen to those who practice abominations - the practices of darkness as seen in Isaiah 8:16-20. It is on account of both practising these abominations and listening to the practitioners of these abominations that Yahweh cast out of the land of Canaan those who inhabited it prior to the children of Israel
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................The Hebrew Bible, Old and New Testaments inform us that: Life is precious and History is meaningful, unlike David Ickes assertion that life is an Illusion, the Biblical view is more scientifically astute: The World is not AS we perceive it but it is very real. The Bible entrains our 6th Sense so that we may perceive realities beyond the 5 sense world.

The 5 Senses do not detect infrared, ultraviolet, radio waves, x-rays etc..yet they exist. The unaided human eye cannot perceive Atoms, protons, quarks etc.yet they exist......We see the Unity of existence, the ground that sustains being, the interconnexion of ALL Life.

The Creator is 'unseen' yet we learn to see through the surface of reality. We are never alone.

The Torah overcomes the Reptilian/Mammalian Brain Centers. Teaches us to become impeccably honest, to be non-exploitive, loving, altruistic. to be a Shepherd not a Predator.

In Hebraic Thought the whole Function of the Torah is to turn the Soul away from the things of the Flesh. FROM egoistic TO Altruistic. During our life our Soul either attaches itself to the things of Flesh, the Path of Darkness; or it attaches itself to the things of the Spirit-The Path of Light, becoming a Child of the Light.

When the False prophets and teachers tell us that Jesus 'did away with the Torah/Instruction/Laws of YHWH'...........they lie, they deceive........they mislead innocents onto the Path of Darkness........rodin; suzi woo woo: you must learn, before you die, to Play the Game Clean. You must learn why deceiving, cheating, exploiting are losing propositions and they harm you more then the people you harm by doing those sordid things.


Great harm is done to our societies as these once recognized undesirable charateristics are now exalted and presented as paradigms for behaviour.....................................The Good Newz is that there IS a Paradigm Shift-We are in a Transit between two Ages......The Age of Production and Accumulation TO the Age of Integrity and Restoration.

"Ahavta yirecha Kamocha"= Love your neighbor as yourself.

In humans the personalities that could have been are always there, always uncomfortable in their imprisonment. And periodically they scream from the dungeons of their minds demanding their Freedom.

The Biblical Commandments were given not for the sake of imposing rules and limitations and restrictions on people limiting their Freedom, but rather as a Divine communication that can be seen as generous-teaching/instructing humanbeings how life works and what to do and not to do to make the best of it.

Within the Torah/mitzvot/commandments are all the neccessary instructions for human conduct, in order to help people avoid negative consequences and repercussions, and also to reap benefit from living in alignment with the Laws of the Universe.


Who is wise? They who can foresee the consequences of their actions.
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One of the first things we should learn in our search for the true Savior is His Name. The importance of knowing this Man's Name cannot be overstated. Names were and are very important to the Hebrew people, and their meanings are of great significance, not only to individuals, but also to entire families.

The name Jesus is an invention of man which in no way carries the meaning of the true Name of this Man mentioned in the New Testament. The simple fact (which is easily proven from authoritative sources) is that this man was born a Hebrew and He had a Hebrew name. There is no such name as Jesus in the Hebrew language.

Reading from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 10, page 10, we find that the supposed name Jesus is actually the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.

JESUS (d. 30 c.e.), whom Christianity sees as its founder and object of faith, was a Jew who lived toward the end of the Second Commonwealth period......The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 12, page 805, gives us additional information, concerning the Hebrew spelling of Joshua, which is yod-heh-waw-shin-ayin.


This source also points out to us that this Name, correctly pronounced Yahshua, is a compound name constructed with the Tetragrammaton,which is the Name: YAHWEH, . The Name Yahshua follows the common practice among the true worshippers of Yahweh, in forming and using compound names which brought glory to Yahweh's Name....................The Name Yahshua is just such a compound Name. It is a combination of Yahweh's Name in a personal name (YAH: yod-heh) and SHUA (shin-ayin), which means salvation. The Hebrew-English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver, and Briggs, page 221, tells us that the Name Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. ............The Law of Yahweh, which Yahshua and the apostles preached, plainly tells us that Yahweh is one.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5—
4 Hear, O Israyl, Yahweh is our Father. Yahweh is one.
5 And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. ....................................The prophets further testified that Yahweh is the only source of power and there is no pagan God with Him at all.

Isayah 43:10-12—
10 You are My witnesses, says Yahweh, and My servants whom I have chosen; so you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He! before me there was no God (el) formed, nor will there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and no strange god (el) is among you! Therefore, you are My witnesses, says Yahweh: that I AM YAHWEH!

Isayah 44:8—
Do not fear, nor be afraid. Have I not told you from that time, and have declared; You are My witnesses! Is there a source of power except Me? Truly, there is no other rock; I know not one.

Isayah 45:6,18—
6 So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that There is none besides me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other!
18 For this is what Yahweh, Who created the heavens, Who is the Father, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain, Who formed it to be inhabited, says: I am Yahweh, and there is no other source of power!


It should now be obvious to anyone that the apostles, as well as the prophets, did not believe in or teach a pre-existent God-savior. The apostles clearly taught against pagan Godworship, the same worship all Christianity teaches today.

Romans 1:20-25—
20 For since the creation of the world, the invisible things of Him are clearly seen—His eternal power and holiness—being understood by the things that are written; so that they are without excuse.
21 Because that, when they knew Yahweh, they did not glorify Him as Father, nor were thankful, but became idolatrous; Godworshipers (worshipers of elohim), in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools; simpletons,
23 And exchanged the glory of the uncorruptible Father for images, made to resemble corruptible man, and birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Therefore, Yahweh also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own minds, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who exchanged the truth of Yahweh for the Lie; Lords (Baalim), Gods, and Goddesses (Elohim), and worshiped and served the creation, rather than the creator, Who is blessed forever. Praise Yahweh! HalleluYahweh!


I Corinthians 10:20-22—
20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to Yahweh; and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.
21 You cannot drink the cup of Yahweh and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of Yahweh's table and of the table of demons.
22 Do we provoke Yahweh to jealousy? are we stronger than He ?


II Corinthians 6:14-18—
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with unright-eousness? and what fellowship does light have with darkness?
15 And what harmony can there be between Messiah and Belial; Worthlessness: Satan? Or what share does a believer have with an infidel; untrustworthy, not faithful, not true nor loyal?
16 And what agreement does The House of Yahweh have with Gods (elohim)? for we are The House of the living Father. As Yahweh has said: I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their Father, and they will be my people.
17 Therefore: come out from among them and be separate, says Yahweh. Do not touch the unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 I will be a Father to you, and you will be My sons and daughters, says Yahweh Almighty.


II Corinthians 4:4—
For the god (el) of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.


Romans 6:15-16—
15 What? May we sin as though we are not under the Law, yet under Yahweh's undeserved pardon? by no means!
16 Do you not know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey—whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

I Yahchanan 3:7-9—
7 Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 He who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of Yahweh was manifested; that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whoever is begotten of Yahweh does not commit sin; for His seed remains in Him; and it is possible for him not to sin, because he has been begotten of Yahweh.


I Yahchanan 5:18-21—
18 We know that whoever is born of Yahweh does not sin; but he who has been begotten of Yahweh keeps himself, and the evil one does not touch him.
19 We know that we belong to Yahweh, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of Yahweh has come, and has given us an understanding, in order that we may know Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true, for we are in His Son, Yahshua. Yahweh is the true Father, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from the defilement of Gods (elohim).


Revelation 18:2-5—
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 Gor all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues,
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh has remembered her iniquities!

However, the apostles knew Yahweh's Plan which called for a man to be born who would be sacrificed for the past sins of many. They also knew that this man would be raised again by Yahweh.........................Yahweh has always revealed Himself as our Father. Yahshua Messiah taught His twelve apostles to pray to Yahweh, and to begin their prayers to Him as "Our Father."

As you read for yourself, you will find that Yahshua taught His disciples, those who obeyed Yahweh, to pray in the following manner.

Luke 11:2—
So He said to them: When you pray, using this example, say: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed be; to show reverence and respect to, Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done; as it is in heaven, so may it be in earth.

In their ministry, the disciples spoke of Yahweh as the Father of Yahshua, saying this specifically in the following Scriptures:

Ephesians 1:17—
Asking that the Father of our King, Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation; unveiling and uncovering truths, for the full knowledge of Him.


I Kepha 1:3—
Blessed be Yahweh, the Father of our King Yahshua Messiah, Who, according to His abundant mercy, has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Yahshua Messiah from the dead;


I Corinthians 8:5-6—
5 For even though there are many called gods (elohim), whether in heaven or on earth (As there are many gods; elohim, and many lords; baalim.),
6 Yet to us there is only One Authority, the Father, from Whom all things came and for Whom we live. And there is but one King, Yahshua Messiah, on Whose account are all things, and on whose account we live .


However, to the disobedient, Yahshua said:

Yahchanan 8:44—
You are of your teacher who is Satan the Devil, and whatever she who is your teacher desires, you will do. She was a murderer from the beginning, and remained not in the truth, because there is no truth in her. Therefore, when you speak your falsehoods, you speak her words, because she is a liar, and the teacher of all lies!

The Holy Scriptures show that we accept one of two beings as our head. We can either accept Yahweh as our Father (head) or we can accept Satan as our head.

Through this world's lust to break the Laws of Yahweh, they have rejected Yahweh as their Father, while accepting Satan the adversary as their head. By doing this, they have become the people of the devil, as the Apostle Shaul describes in the following Scriptures, because they did not like to retain Yahweh in their knowledge..............................................Yahshua Messiah said the following.

Yahchanan 6:44—
No man can come to Me, unless the Father, Who has sent Me, draws him; and I will establish him as a priest at the last day.

When we are called out of this world by Yahweh's Holy Spirit and begin to understand the importance of Yahweh's Holy Scriptures in our lives, we, even then, are only half of the creation Yahweh requires us to be, in order for us to enter His Kingdom. To understand this, we must understand the Plan of Yahweh.

When Yahshua was resurrected from the dead, He became the firstborn of many brothers.

Romans 8:29—
For whom He did foreknow, He also did foreordain to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

When we are conformed to Yahshua we will also be conformed to the Father Yahweh, because Yahshua conformed to be exactly like the Father.

Hebrews 1:3—
Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the prophets, when He had purged sin, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high;


http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Shaul-Do-Away.pdf



Much like the Christian NAZIs that preceeded you, you are ignorant an don't know what you speak of. I see through you like I see through the water that flows down my drain. thumbs up

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html

Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.

Based on years of archival research, The Aryan Jesus examines the membership and activities of this controversial theological organization. With headquarters in Eisenach, the Institute sponsored propaganda conferences throughout the Nazi Reich and published books defaming Judaism, including a dejudaized version of the New Testament and a catechism proclaiming Jesus as the savior of the Aryans. Institute members--professors of theology, bishops, and pastors--viewed their efforts as a vital support for Hitler's war against the Jews. Heschel looks in particular at Walter Grundmann, the Institute's director and a professor of the New Testament at the University of Jena. Grundmann and his colleagues formed a community of like-minded Nazi Christians who remained active and continued to support each other in Germany's postwar years.

The Aryan Jesus raises vital questions about Christianity's recent past and the ambivalent place of Judaism in Christian thought.


ANTISEMITISM AND CHRISTIANITY

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.html

Hitler did not achieve most of his political and military goals, but on the Jewish question he succeeded remarkably. If his antisemitic propaganda found resonance, its success can be credited in large measure to the unrelenting anti-Jewish Christian theological discourse that linked Nazi propaganda with the traditions and moral authority of the churches. That link was proclaimed with enthusiasm by Nazi Christians: “In the Nazi treatment of the Jews and its ideological stance, Luther’s intentions, after centuries, are being fulfilled.”13 Antisemitism was the lingua franca of the Nazi era and was employed by church leaders to gain credibility with their own adherents—but also out of sincere antisemitic conviction. Antisemitism was also a tactic in the rhetorical battles among the different Christian factions, with each accusing its opponents of being “Jewish” while positioning itself as the true Nazi believer.14

Already in 1971 the historian Uriel Tal challenged the entrenched view that racist antisemitism is a new phenomenon that repudiates Christianity by arguing that it was actually utterly dependent on Christian anti-Judaism for its success: “it was not the economic crises that brought about this new political, racial and antireligious antisemitism, but completely the reverse, it was precisely the anti-Christian and antireligious ideology of racial antisemitism which hampered the first antisemitic parties in their efforts to utilize the economic crisis for their political development . . . [because] what still attracted the masses was the classical, traditional Christian anti-Judaism, however adapted it may have become to the new economic conditions.”15 Tal demonstrated that Germany’s antisemitic, völkisch movements that arose in the nineteenth century had to abandon their initial anti-Christian stances in order to win supporters for whom Christian anti-Jewish arguments held profound political appeal.16 Even within the so-called “church struggle” between German Christians and the Confessing Church for control of the Protestant church, antisemitism became the glue that united the otherwise warring factions. Similarly, however much Hitler made use of images of messianism, redemption, and other Christian motifs, the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.

Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fighter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?

Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes. The theology of the Institute was a similar effort at supersessionism in reverse, taking over elements of Nazi racial ideology to bolster and redefine the Christian message. The result was an uneasy competition between two sides seeking popular support and institutional control, though access to power was, of course, highly asymmetrical.

Thus, while seeking to undermine the political power and moral authority of the churches, Nazism simultaneously appropriated key elements of Christian theology into its own ideology both for purposes of winning adherents used to Christian arguments and also to give its own message a coherence and resonance with the age-old Christian teachings that had shaped European culture. Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being and gave Christ renewed glory as a contemporary figure of enormous political significance. Both were suspicious of the institutional church. Factions within the Nazi Reich and the party saw the church as competition and a potential threat to be ultimately eliminated after the war.19 The German Christians sought control and radical reform of the Protestant church, which they never fully achieved, leading them to bitter complaints and, in some cases, demands for its demolition. Meanwhile, Christianity was not to be banned nor the churches outlawed; rather, as the historian Ernst Piper writes, Nazi strategy was to control the churches and lead to “a steadily advancing process of delegitimization and disassociation, of undermining and repression” that would undercut the church’s moral authority and position of respect.20 In its own supersessionist theology, an amalgam of Nazism and Christianity, with a rejection of church authority and doctrine, an assertion of German supremacy and Jewish degeneracy, and absurd revisions of the Bible, the German Protestant church contributed substantially to the Nazi project of undermining Christianity.

The establishment of the Institute in 1939 and the proliferation of its projects during the war years demonstrates that the antisemitism of the German Christians was not simply rhetorical, but was intended to lend active support to Nazi policies against the Jews—or, at times, to push those policies in more radical directions. Indeed, certain Protestant theologians stood at the forefront in discussions of the so-called Jewish problem; Gerhard Kittel’s notorious speech of May 1933, later published as a pamphlet, has been called the most antisemitic utterance of that year.21 In considering ways to rid Germany of Jews, Kittel proposed not only expulsion and guest status, but extermination (“Ausrottung”), a method he rejected only because it was too difficult to implement. On February 24–25, 1936, a few months after the proclamation of the Nuremberg Laws, but long before Jews were being deported and murdered, a group of theologians, some of whom subsequently became leaders of the Institute, met in Dresden to discuss a merger of the German Christian factions of the state churches of Thuringia and Saxony. During the course of the meeting, Siegfried Leffler, a German Christian leader, official in the Thuringian Ministry of Education, and, by 1939, figurehead of the Institute, stated:

In a Christian life, the heart always has to be disposed toward the Jew, and that’s how it has to be. As a Christian, I can, I must, and I ought always to have or to find a bridge to the Jew in my heart. But as a Christian, I also have to follow the laws of my nation [Volk], which are often presented in a very cruel way, so that again I am brought into the harshest of confl icts with the Jew. Even if I know “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment of God or “thou shalt love the Jew” because he too is a child of the eternal Father, I am able to know as well that I have to kill him, I have to shoot him, and I can only do that if I am permitted to say: Christ.22
What is striking is not only that Leffler spoke of killing Jews as early as February 1936, long before mass murder of the Jews became Nazi policy, but that there was no response to his comments from those attending, neither immediately nor later in the session; the discussion simply continued as if murder of Jews in the name of Christ was a customary topic.23 The aryanization of Jesus into a manly, heroic, fighting spirit reflected among the theologians the “heroic realism” that prevailed in the 1930s within right-wing political thought. That “heroism” meant killing one’s opponent without emotion but in accord with principles of natural law, in defense of one’s own race and at the cost of personal sacrifice.24 Paul Althaus, professor of theology at the University of Erlangen and a noted ethicist, was present at the meeting, but expressed nothing to indicate that he was appalled or disturbed by Leffler’s remarks. The lack of outrage is evidence that ridding Germany of Jews had become an acceptable point of discussion among theologians, even when murder was proposed as a technique of achieving it. The Nuremberg Laws, while perceived by many German Jews as protection from far worse legislation, were viewed as an encouragement by the German Christian movement to take even more radical positions. Legal cases in German courts, brought in the wake of the Nuremberg Laws’ criminalization of sexual relations and marriage between Jews and Aryans, and widely reported in the German press, implicated Jews as sexual predators of Aryans, further encouraging Christian theologians to insist on protecting Christian purity by eradicating Jewishness with even more radical measures.25 The penetration of Christian bodies by Jewish sex reiterated a typical motif of racist rhetoric, the dangers of miscegenation, and reinforced fears that Aryanism was not immutable, but subject to destruction by Jews.26 Antisemites had long insisted that German Aryan women were vulnerable to Jewish predation, and Jesus, whose gentleness and suffering was viewed as effeminate by German Christians, was depicted in one caricature as an Aryan woman on a cross with a lecherous Jewish man in the foreground: the crucifixion as the Jewish rape of Germany. ............................


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no lie lilly, you are a neo NAZI, anti semite.....and a pathological liar...... thumbs up

true lilly wrote: Ah "SNOOP", yet another 'name' that demands belief in
long ago debunked myths (while denying all meaningful
discoveries of modern science), to sell more fearful following
of Death Worshiping Religions, kept 'alive' by belief in the
'out of Egypt time line', that "They" LIE is 'Biblical'.

Sorry, but you can't debate what was told us about
THE BEGINNING of Life Forming on One Super Continent,
when you insist on SKIPPING EVERYTHING DESCRIBED
BEFORE that One Super Continent Divided and Formed
new lands (like Turkey and it's Young Mountains), leaving
an INSANELY SHORT time line, that you then try to shove
ALL ANCIENT EARTH & HUMAN HISTORY into, just to try
to 'make a lie out of God's Word', that warned us about
the secret agenda of Liars like "SNOOP", and Promised to
provide Revealing Proofs of The Truth of God's Word, such
as many I have shared over the years.
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What are you blind? You didn't see the first two Posts? You don't believe Genesis 10, the Table of Nations, you don't know that life began beneath the sea before it appeared on land? You don't know/understand that human life is quantitatively and qualitateively different then all other life on this Planet and the Universe?





lilly, you falsely claim that no one responds/refutes your 'claims' that australia is the Biblical 'promised Land'. That you falsely 'claim' that australia is the Biblical Zion.

That you 'claim' that the land of egypt is not mentioned in the Bible, that some of the events of Abraham, Joseph, and the Tribes of the Hebrews/Israelites did not take place in Egypt.

You also Falsely claim that Yahshua/Jesus 'did away' with the Torah/Instruction of YHWH-Yahweh.

You also Falsely claim that 'spiritual Israel' replaces the Jews and the geographical Israel.


ALL of your 'claims' are FALSE and I, Senor El Kabong, Monsieur Le Sabrage and Barnacle Bill have refuted ALL your 'claims', proving them to be FALSE and wrong with credentialed Scholarship and credentialed Academic and Theological Sources.

Here is your challenge. Will you run away as always, obfusicate the clear meanings or will you 'stand toe to toe' and support your FALSE 'claims' with credentialed sources that can be verified.

Truth IS NOT ambiguous and subject to personal opinion. TRUTH is FACT/Reality. Below is a Timeline of the Earths Evolution.........from the beginning. Notice the formation and dissolution of the various Super-continents. Also notice the great oxidization of the earths atmosphere event.......all supported by the fossil record. Do you agree or disagree?


The Kloo Store is open!!!!! The words you are talking about ORIGINALLY were scribed in Hebrew, at Sinai. Circa approximately 1,500 BCE............examine this authentic scientific Timeline............Notice, if you will when the Landmasses SEPARATED..........Notice if you will the Oxidization of the Atmosphere.......before you babble anymore nonsense acquire the Genesis Enigma by Andrew Parker......all you are doing is Antisemitic/judeophobic propaganda replacement bullshit...... ..


http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/timeline.html



Counting Backwards from Now

60 years ago - Invention of the computer.

130 years ago - Invention of the telephone.

180 years ago - Fossil fuel revolution: coal, trains.

540 years ago - Invention of the printing press.

5,500 years ago - Invention of the wheel, writing.

7,600 years ago - Sahara desert starts forming in northern Africa.

8,800 years ago - The first cities.

10,300 years ago - End of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.

12,700 - 11,500 years ago - the Younger Dryas.

18,000 years ago - Cultivation of plants, herding of animals. Homo sapiens arrives in the Americas.

21,000 years ago - Last glacial maximum: ice sheets down to the Great Lakes, the mouth of the Rhine, and covering the British Isles.

32,000 years ago - Oldest known cave paintings.

35,000 years ago - Invention of the calendar, extinction of Homo neanderthalensis. Homo sapiens arrives in Europe.

50,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in central Asia.

100,000 years ago - Homo sapiens arrives in the Middle East.

110,000 years ago - Beginning of the most recent glacial period: the Wisconsin glaciation.

130,000 years ago - Beginning of the Eemian interglacial.

200,000 years ago - Beginning of the 2nd most recent glacial period: the Wolstonian glaciation.

250,000 years ago - First Homo sapiens.

350,000 years ago - First Homo neanderthalensis.

380,000 years ago - Beginning of the Hoxnian interglacial.

450,000 years ago - Beginning of the 3rd most recent glacial period: the Kansan glaciation, during which ice sheets reached their maximum extent in the Pleistocene, down to Kansas and Slovakia.

620,000 years ago - Beginning of the Cromerian interglacial.

1.4 million years ago - First firemaking by humans.

1.9 million years ago - First Homo erectus.

2.5 million years ago - First Homo habilis. Beginning of a period of repeated glaciation (loosely speaking, "ice ages").

3 million years - Cooling trend causes year-round ice to form at the North Pole.

3.9 million years ago - First known Australopithecus afarensis.

5 million years ago - Humans split off from other apes (gorillas and chimpanzees).

21 million years ago - Apes split off from other monkeys.

24 million years ago - Cooling trend causes the formation of grasslands; Antarctica becomes covered with ice.

34 million years ago - Gondwanaland finishes breaking up, with Australia and South America separating from Antarctica.

50 million years ago - India begins to collide with Asia, eventually forming the Himalayas.

67 million years ago - Asteroid hit Mexico, causing the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction. End of dinosaurs. 50% of all species died out! Intensification of world cooling trend.

114 million years ago - First modern mammals. World begins to cool.

150 million years ago - First birds.

200 million years ago - Pangaea began to split into separate continents: Gondwana to the south and Laurasia to the north, separated by the Tethys Sea.

205 million years ago - The Triassic-Jurassic extinction. End of large amphibians and many reptiles.

235 million years ago - First dinosaurs, flowers.

250 million years ago - The Permian-Triassic extinction. 90% of all species died out! Formation of the supercontinent Pangaea, with surrounding ocean Panthalassa.

313 million years ago - First reptiles.

365 million years ago - The Late Devonian extinction. 70% of marine species died out! First amphibians, trees.

395 million years ago - First insects on land.

415 million years ago - The Old Red Sandstone Continent, also known as Laurussia, is formed by the collision of Baltica and Laurentia at the beginning of the Devonian.

440 million years ago - The Ordovician-Silurian extinction. Most marine species died out.

670 million years ago - First animals.

630-850 million years ago - The Cryogenian Period, also known as Snowball Earth - the worst ice age in the Earth's history.

800 million years ago - The supercontinent Rodinia begins to break up.

1 billion years ago - Formation of the supercontinent Rodinia


1.3 billion years ago - First plants.

1.6 billion years ago - First blue-green algae.

2.4 billion years ago - The Great Oxidation Event: the Earth's atmosphere gets oxygen.

3 billion years ago - Formation of the first known continent, Ur.
3.8 - 4 billion years ago - The Late Heavy Bombardment: a period during which the Earth, Moon, Venus and Mars were subjected to many asteroid impacts, after a relatively calm period of several million years.

4 billion years ago - First life on Earth. wave


4.45 billion years ago - Formation of Earth complete; storm of asteroid impacts.

4.5 billion years ago - Formation of the Moon: according to the Giant Impact Hypothesis, this happened when Theia collided with proto-Earth.

4.55 billion years ago - Formation of the Solar System.

13.3 billion years ago - Reionization: the first stars heat and ionize hydrogen gas.

13.3 - 13.7 billion years ago - The Dark Ages, after the formation of hydrogen and before the first stars.

13.7 billion years ago - The Big Bang: beginning of the universe as we know it!


The Genesis enigma: How DID the Bible describe the evolution of life 3,000 years before Darwin?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200486/The-Genesis-enigma-How-DID-Bible-evolution-life-3-000-years-Darwin.html#ixzz1eMgMePRe

The revalation came to Professor Andrew Parker during a visit to Rome. He was in the Sistine Chapel, gazing up at Michelangelo's awesome ceiling paintings, when a realisation struck him with dizzying force.
'A Biblical enigma exists that is on the one hand so cryptic it has remained camouflaged for millennia, and on the other so obvious one cannot miss it.'
The enigma is that the order of Creation as described in the Book of Genesis, and so powerfully depicted in the Sistine Chapel by the greatest artist of the Renaissance, has been precisely, eerily confirmed by modern evolutionary science.

Yet how on earth could this be possible? And why had nobody noticed it before?
Such was the starting point of Parker's jaw-dropping new book, The Genesis Enigma: an astounding work which seeks to prove that the ancient Hebrew writers of the Book of Genesis knew all about evolution - 3,000 years before Darwin.
It takes a journey back through aeons of geological time, and also into the minds and imaginations of the ancient Israelites.
Andrew Parker is a leading scientist in his field: a research fellow at Oxford University, research leader at the Natural History Museum, and as if that weren't enough, a professor at Shanghai's Jiao Tong university.
As a scientist he never paid much heed to the Book of Genesis, assuming, like most of his colleagues, that such primitive mythology - which is believed to have been compiled from several sources between 950 and 500 BC - has long since been 'disproved' by hard scientific fact.
But after his Sistine Chapel moment, he went back to look at Genesis in more detail. And what he read astonished him. It was even, he says, 'slightly scary'.
Somehow - God alone knew how - the writer or writers of that ancient text had described how the evolution of life on earth took place in precise detail and perfect order.
Our ancestors possessed a truly timeless wisdom It is always disturbing and haunting to encounter an ancient wisdom that seems to anticipate or even exceed our own.
More fanciful writers immediately start to theorise wildly: that those who built the pyramids, or Stonehenge, must have been guided by super-intelligent aliens, that sort of thing.
Andrew Parker, a scientist and proud of it, has no time for such twaddle. But he does gradually come to understand, in the course of his investigations, that our ancestors of thousands of years ago, though they may not have had iPods and plasma-screen televisions, nevertheless possessed a wisdom that was, quite literally, timeless: as true now as it was then.
In the Book of Genesis, God first and most famously creates heaven and earth, but 'without form', and commands: 'Let there be light.' A perfect description of the Big Bang, that founding moment of our universe some 13 billion years ago, an unimaginable explosion of pure energy and matter 'without form' out of nothing - the primordial Biblical 'void'.
He then creates the dry land out of the waters, but it is the water that comes first. As Parker points out, scientists today understand very similarly that water is indeed crucial for life.

When 'astrobiologists' look into space for signs of life on other planets, the first thing they look for is the possible presence of water.
On the third day, we are told: 'God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."'
Now factually speaking, grass didn't evolve until much later. In the Triassic and Jurassic epochs, the dinosaurs knew only plants such as giant conifers and tree ferns. But since grass did not in fact evolve until much later, a sternly literal-minded scientist would declare the Bible wrong, and consign it to the nearest wheelie bin.
But wait a minute, says Parker. If you take 'grass, herb and tree' to mean photosynthesising life in general, then this is, once again, spot on.

The very life forms on earth were single-celled bacteria, but the first truly viable bacteria were the 'cyanobacteria' - those that had learned to photosynthesise.
As a result, they began to expire oxygen, creating an atmosphere that could go on to support more and more life. They were the key to life on earth.
Naturally, says Parker, 'the ancient Israelites would have been oblivious to any single-celled life form, let alone cyanobacteria', but 'grass' as a loose description of life forms that photosynthesise?

On the fourth day, Genesis famously becomes confusing. On the first day, remember, God has already created light, and made Day and Night. But it isn't until day four that he makes the lights in heaven, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser the night.
Hang on - so he made 'Day' three days before he made the Sun? Houston, I think we have a problem.

Yet the writers of Genesis were just as well aware as us, surely, that the sunrise causes the day. You don't need a degree in astronomy to work that one out. What on earth did they mean?
Here, The Genesis Enigma comes up with a stunningly ingenious answer. For Parker argues that day four refers to the evolution of vision.
Until the first creatures on earth evolved eyes, in a sense, the sun and moon didn't exist. There was no creature on earth to see them, nor the light they cast.

When Genesis says: 'Let there be lights... To divide the day from the night,' it is talking about eyes.
'The very first eye on earth effectively turned on the lights for animal behaviour,' writes Professor Parker, 'and consequently for further rapid evolution.'
Almost overnight, life suddenly grew vastly more complex. Predators were able to hunt far more efficiently, and so prey had to evolve fast too - or get eaten.

The moment that there were 'lights', or eyes, then life exploded into all its infinite variety.
And yet again, that's what Genesis says happened, and in the correct environment too. In the sea.
For on the very next day of Creation, the fifth day: 'God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life."'

That is exactly what happened. Life that had hitherto been lived in the dark, by simple, slow-moving, worm-like creatures, erupted into dazzling diversity. We know all about it from the world famous Burgess Shale fossils.
They were discovered in the summer of 1909 by one Charles Doolittle Walcott, on holiday with his family in the Canadian Rockies. Walcott began to chip away at the shale with his geological hammer, and quite by chance stumbled upon one of the greatest finds in all science.
For the shale records what happened on our planet around 508 million years ago, long before the first dinosaurs: the 'Cambrian expolosion,' which most scientists now think was indeed the direct result of the evolution of vision.
Life on earth exploded in all its infinite variety The life-forms discovered look like nothing else: fabulous, phantasmagoric, alien beings. One had five eyes, and a long wavy snout with jaws on the end. Another looked like an octopus with its head stuck in a beaker, and another can only be described as 'a swimming pea with a pair of beady eyes, bull's horns, a pair of "hands" and a fish's tail.'
Others resemble balls of spines, vase-shaped pin-cushions, or badminton shuttlecocks with chameleon-like tongues. Anyone who doubts the power of evolution by natural selection only has to look at the Burgess Shale fossils.
How does Genesis describe the teeming aquatic life of the Cambrian explosion? 'And God said, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life." ' Immediately following the creation of vision.
How did the writer/writers know that life suddenly diversified into this rich and staggering variety, under the oceans, not on land? Why would a very much land-based people, pastoralists and shepherds, even think like this?
After the Cambrian come the Ordovician, Silurian and Devonian periods - or the appearance of 'great whales', as Genesis succinctly puts it.
How better to describe those epochs which gave us such monsters of the deep as Dunkleosteus, a carnivorous armoured fish whose appearance, says Parker, was 'simply terrifying'. Some 35ft long, 'the size of a small coach', with massive, bone-crunching jaws, even its eyes were armoured.
And after the sea monsters come the birds, the animals, cattle, and finally, homo sapiens. All present and correct, and all still in the right order. Once again, 'In describing how the planet and life around us came to be, the writer of the Genesis narrative got it disturbingly right'.
So what should we make of the extraordinary findings of The Genesis Enigma?
Professor Parker is clear on this subject. 'It would be a great shame if my findings were either misused in an attempt to suggest that scientists themselves are unsure about science, or pounded out of all recognition into support of the seven-day creation premise.'
There is no doubt that literal-minded Creationists do a disservice to the triumphant achievements of modern science, and to the beauty and poetry of the Bible. Evolution is taking place around us all the time. It's why the MRSA superbug has become so dangerously immune to antibiotics, why the race is on to beat the swine flu virus.
Nevertheless, when Parker comes to explaining how the writers of Genesis knew what they knew, he can only conclude that it was due to 'divine intervention', or 'a lucky guess'. Since the odds of the latter seem fantastically remote, Parker tentatively suggests the former.



That totally refutes your unsupported claims. You pervert The Word of God, you dismiss and attack the Torah, Gods instruction to humanity, you claim to replace the jews and Israel based upon distorted and deformed interpretation of Hebrew Texts.......you.........suzi/lilly are the proverbial False Prophet, a pessimist, it took you a week to respond to an honest debate and you lied and bullshitted... thumbs up

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Post  true lilly on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:23 pm

Twenty police injured in nuke protest

AP
GERMAN police say
20 policemen were injured
during clashes with protesters
ahead of the arrival of
a shipment of nuclear waste.

true lilly wrote:Nuclear waste train heads into Germany
From:AFP
November 25, 2011 9:45PM
Last Updated: November 26, 2011

THE last train carrying reprocessed nuclear waste back from France
to Germany crossed the border today after being delayed by
demonstrations and steamed towards more trouble.

The train, carrying 11 wagonloads of vitrified radioactive material,
left a siding in the station of Remilly, just outside the town of Metz
and around 30km from the German border, at 7pm (AEDT).


Several hundred French riot police had protected the train overnight, and
around 60 German officers and a French "RAID" team - a SWAT-style
special weapons squad - were on board as it resumed its journey.


The train had left a yard operated by the French nuclear giant Areva in
Valognes, in Normandy, on Wednesday, due to travel more than 1100km
across France and through Germany to the waste dump in Gorleben.


But violent anti-nuclear protests delayed its journey, and authorities
halted it overnight while trying to keep demonstrators guessing about
its eventual route across the border and back into Germany.


Related Coverage

Today, it finally crossed the frontier in the border town of Forbach, just south of Saarbrucken, and entered Germany.

Last November a similar controversial shipment took 91 hours to arrive at
its final destination - a day longer than planned - and it was dogged
the length of the route by French and then German protesters.


Around 50,000 activists turned out in Germany to try to disrupt the train
during that transfer, and protest organisers expect 20,000 to demonstrate
against the convoy as it nears the central town of Gorlebenlater on Friday.


Some 19,000 German officers have been deployed, and tear gas and water canon
were fired when clashes erupted overnight when a few hundred protesters tried
to block the line around 20km outside Gorleben.


Spooked by Japan's Fukushima disaster, Germany has decided to phase out its
use
of nuclear power, and thus bring to an end the controversial practice
of sending radioactive waste overland to France for reprocessing.


Anti-nuclear activists want France to follow suit and shut its reactors, an idea
firmly dismissed by President Nicolas Sarkozy, whose government believes
French industry is reliant on cheap nuclear-generated electricity.


There has long been widespread public opposition in Germany to nuclear power,
which environmentalists believe presents an unacceptable radioactive threat
to public health and the environment.


In March, the Japanese nuclear plant at Fukushima Daiichi was hit by an earthquake
and a tsunami, triggering a meltdown and massive radiation leak - and increasing
worldwide concerns over nuclear power.


Chancellor Angela Merkel's government agreed to halt German reactors by 2022,
forcing energy suppliers to close plants and levying a tax on fuel.


In the meantime, Germany will no longer send nuclear waste for
reprocessing in France, but will instead stockpile it until a way is
found to make it safe.


France produces 75 per cent of its electricity needs in nuclear plants - a
higher proportion than any other country - and its electricity bills are around
25 per cent cheaper than in its neighbours, a boon to industry.


German protesters are angry that Merkel's announced nuclear phase-out will
take another decade, and that there is still no permanent storage site for the waste generated in the country's reactors.
German mother
gives birth to gigantic baby,
names him 'Jihad'


Mother Elfi holds her son Jihad at Charit Campus hospital in Berlin.
Picture: AP Sunday Herald Sun


AN obese German mother gave birth to a gigantic baby boy
without the help of a C-section, and named him
"Jihad."
The newborn -- the mother's 14th -- weighed in at 5.9kg
__________________________________________________________________
25 November 2011
Last updated at 21:08 GMT

Belgium credit rating downgraded by S&P

S&P says it considers Belgian government debt
to be at "high levels"


Belgium has had its credit rating downgraded by ratings agency Standard & Poor's.

The country's downgrade could make it more expensive for Belgium to borrow in future.

Belgium's rating was cut by one notch, to AA from AA+, with S&P expressing concerns about funding and market pressures.

The move comes as the eurozone crisis threatens to keep growing, and with continued concerns over Italian debt.

"We think the Belgian government's capacity to prevent an
increase in general government debt, which we consider to be already at
high levels, is being constrained by rapid private sector deleveraging
both in Belgium and among many of Belgium's key trading partners,"
S&P said in a statement.


It also said the outlook was "negative",
meaning Belgium's rating could possibly be cut further in future.


"We need a reply that is clear and credible
if we are to avoid the worst,"

Belgium's caretaker prime minister, Yves Leterme,
told
Belgian television after S&P's announcement.

_____________________________________________________________

Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant,
Prince of Belgium

(French: Philippe Léopold Louis Marie,
Dutch: Filip(s) Leopold Lodewijk Maria;
born 15 April 1960),
is the eldest son and heir apparent of
Albert II, King of the Belgians and Queen Paola.


House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha


The Duke of Brabant
at World Economic Forum in 2010

His godparents were his paternal grandfather,
King Leopold III of the Belgians,
and his maternal grandmother
Donna Luisa, Princess Ruffo di Calabria.

Spouse
Countess Mathilde d'Udekem d'Acoz
daughter of a Walloon Belgian noble family
and female line descendant of Polish noble families

such as the Princes Sapieha,
on 4 December 1999 in Brussels,
civilly at the Brussels Town Hall and
religiously at the Cathedral of Saint Michel in Brussels.


They have four children:

Prince Philippe was educated at the Belgian Royal Military School.
From 1978 to 1981 he continued his education
at Oxford University's Trinity College.
He attended Graduate School at Stanford University, California,
where he graduated in 1985 with an MA degree in Political Science.

Greater Coat of Arms of Belgium


Personal Standard of King Albert II.
Albert II
King of the Belgians

King Albert II and Queen Paola with
US President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush
at the Royal Palace in Brussels in 2005.


King Albert II with Queen Paola,
and other royals and Heads of state,
at the funeral of Pope John Paul II.

________________________________________________________

Yves Leterme
Prime Minister of Belgium

Incumbent
Assumed office
25 November 2009
Monarch: Albert II

Private life and hobbies
Yves Leterme is known to be very fond of goats.

He breeds goats in his private time
in the small farm where he lives.

In November 2010 the Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad
had
some more news about Yves' favorite animals:
two of his favorite goats, named Trudy and Vicky,
were to appear in a play by the local theatre society of Ypres.
The play is called 'Island of the goats'.
In an interview Yves called goats "The poor man's cow."
_________________________________________________________________________


Ray:
Ken, I grew up in Dublin. I love Dublin.
If I grew up on a farm, and was retarded, Bruges might impress me
but I didn't, so it doesn't.


Ray:
Don't know any Belgium jokes,
and if I did I think I'd have the good
sense not to... hang on.

Is Belgium with all those child abuse murders
lately?
I do know a Belgium joke.

What's Belgium famous for?
Chocolates and child abuse,
and they only invented the chocolates
to get to the kids.




Harry:
Not only have you refused to kill the boy,
you even stopped the boy from
killing himself,
which would've solved my problem,
which would've
solved your problem,
which sounds like it would've solved the boy's problem.
Ken:
It wouldn't have solved his problem.
Harry:
Ken, if I had killed a little kid, accidentally or otherwise,
I wouldn't have thought twice.
I'd killed myself on the fucking spot.
On the fucking spot.
I would've stuck the gun in me mouth.
On the fucking spot!


Ray:
Maybe that's what hell is,
the entire rest of eternity spent in fucking Bruges.



Belgian parties reach 2012 budget deal
by:By Roddy Thomson
From:
AAP
November 27, 2011 1:00AM

BELGIAN politicians reached a deal on the 2012 budget today,
ending a 19-month deadlock that had prevented the formation
of a stable government and led to a debt downgrade,
a negotiator said.

"There is an agreement," said a spokesman for the French-speaking socialists,
one of six parties in the linguistically-divided country
that had been struggling
to reconcile spending cuts with tax rises.


The accord, reached after 17 hours of negotiations, opens the way to
forming a new government
after 19 months in caretaker management.


Friday night's downgrade by ratings giant Standard and Poor's, which saw
Belgium drop by one notch to AA, piled pressure on the parties to
reconcile spending cuts with tax rises to avoid EU penalties next month.


Internal pressure, though, was at least matched by external strains among wider
eurozone leaders, two weeks from a crunch summit dogged by mounting doubts
over their ability to resolve the debt crisis.


Related Coverage
With a national debt worth almost one year's economic output, which
threatens to crush the country with the onset of recession, outgoing
Prime Minister Yves Leterme had made it clear he feared a rout

when markets reopen on Monday if a way forward was not agreed.


"It is blindingly obvious, we have to send a very clear signal... preferably
before the markets open,"
Mr Leterme had said in a live national
television interview before a shocked Belgian people.


The parties had to work out how to trim 11.3 billion euros ($15.58 billion)
off the deficit next year and about 20 billion euros ($27.58 billion) in all
by 2015.


The ultimatum came days after Mr Leterme's expected successor,
Elio Di Rupo, offered his resignation to Belgium's king,

frustrated at the failure of six-party talks to agree on a
deficit-cutting 2012 budget to avoid EU sanctions.


Albert II rejected the offer and sent Di Rupo back to work.


The ratings blow underlined a sharp escalation of the debt crisis
in a week in which even Germany struggled to raise finance.


Concern is growing that the euro currency, in the absence of
radical pan-eurozone action, is close to breaking point.


"The ability of authorities to respond to potential economic pressures from
inside and outside of Belgium... in our opinion is constrained by the
repeated failure of attempts to form a new government," the S&P
statement said.


After Greek, Portuguese and Irish bailouts, and
with Italy, Spain and France now under pressure,
it was more bad news for leaders struggling
in the absence of a European Central Bank
decision to mount a gigantic financial rescue.


The European Commission has repeatedly urged Belgium
to bring its public deficit below 3.0 per cent of GDP by 2012 -
or face a fine of about half a billion euros.


Finance Minister Didier Reynders blamed the downgrade on a
"global loss of confidence" in eurozone public finances,
while insisting that Belgium's creditworthiness remained
"one of the strongest in Europe".


Analysts said the news had wider significance.

"Belgium is the symbolic buffer
between the eurozone periphery and its core,
so this is a sign that the crisis -
slowly, but surely -

is striking at the heart of Europe,"

Sony Kapoor, head of the Re-Define think tank, told AFP.
___________________________________________________

Tourist killed, 3 kidnapped in Mali
by:By Baba Ahmed in Bamako
From:
AP
November 26, 2011
6:58AM

GUNMEN burst into a restaurant
in Mali's most famous city of Timbuktu overnight,
grabbed four tourists dining there and executed one
when he refused to climb into their truck,
said a witness and an official who inspected the body.


The armed men entered the Amanar restaurant around 2.30pm on Friday
local time and pointed their guns at four tourists dining inside, said
Moussa Boubacar, a client at the restaurant.

The four followed the gunmen outside, but when the gunmen tried to
make them enter a vehicle, one of the tourists refused, Boubacar said.

The kidnappers opened fire, killing him on the spot, Boubacar said.

Their nationalities could not immediately be confirmed,
but witnesses describe them as European.

Dramane Diallo, the regional director of Timbuktu's civil protection division,
said that he rushed to the scene and found the corpse of an elderly white man,
who locals said was the tourist that had refused to enter the car.

Related Coverage
Until a few years ago, Timbuktu was one of the most visited
destinations in Africa, but it is now one of the many former tourist
hotspots in Mali that have been deemed too dangerous to visit by foreign
embassies because of kidnappings by the local chapter of al-Qaeda.


The incident overnight comes after two French citizens were grabbed
in the middle of the night
from their hotel
in the Malian town of Hombori
on Thursday.


Neither kidnapping has yet been claimed by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,
or AQIM, whose members
have kidnapped and ransomed over 50 Europeans and
Canadians since 2003.


If Friday's kidnapping is by AQIM, it will mark the first time they have taken
a hostage inside of Timbuktu's city limits. Thursday's kidnapping would be
another first - the first time they have grabbed their victim south of the Niger River.

The group's footprint has grown dramatically since 2006, when the Algerian-led cell
first joined al-Qaeda. Security experts estimate the group has been able to raise around $US130 million ($134.04 million) from ransom payments alone.

The extent of the Mali Empire's peak



"One people, one goal, one faith"

An estimated 90% of Malians are Muslim
(mostly Sunni and Sufi),

approximately 5% are Christian
(about two-thirds Roman Catholic and one-third Protestant)
and the remaining 5% adhere to
indigenous or traditional animist beliefs.

Atheism and agnosticism are believed to be rare among Malians,
most of whom practice their religion on a daily basis.


TWITTERING IDIOTS!!!

'China down'
Jon Huntsman said to "take China down"

Jon Huntsman : Take China down.

Huntsman, former US Ambassador to China,
made following comments in candidate debate :

......

So what should we be doing?
We should be reaching out to OUR ALLIES and
CONSTITUENCIES WITHIN CHINA.

They're called the young people.
They're called the internet generation.
There are 500 million internet users in China.
And 80 million bloggers.
And they are bringing about change,
the likes of which is gonna TAKE CHINA DOWN.
While we have an opportunity
to go up and win back
our economic manufacturing muscles.
Rolling Eyes
Huntsman, China
____________________________________________

Paul Twomey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Paul Twomey 2007


Paul Twomey
was the Chief Executive Officer and President of the
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
(ICANN) from March 2003 to June 2009.
ICANN is the chief rule-making body
for internet policy worldwide.


Following a private-sector role as
a consultant for McKinsey & Company,
Dr Twomey held executive positions
within the Australian Government's
foreign trade organisation Austrade.

His role there included working on
strategic development and European markets.


He was appointed Chief Executive Officer of the
National Office for the Information Economy
(NOIE) in 1997,

a Commonwealth Government unit
responsible for developing Internet policy.


His involvement with ICANN began at this time.
Subsequently he chaired the ICANN
Government Advisory Committee,[1]
which served as the organisation's
liaison with world governments.


Following his departure from NOIE,
Dr Twomey created a consultancy
with Ira Magaziner
(Domestic Policy Adviser
to former US President Bill Clinton)
called Argo P@cific.[2]


He continued to serve on the ICANN GAC until November 2002,
through an ongoing posting as external advisor to
Australia's Commonwealth Government.


Dr Twomey is a member of the
British-North American Committee.


He also serves on the board of directors of the
Atlantic Council of the United States
and chairs the World Economic Forum's
Global Agenda Council on the Future of the Internet.


He holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from University of Queensland,
a Master of Arts from Pennsylvania State University
and a PhD from Cambridge University.


On 27 March 2003 he was elected to his current position at ICANN.

On 2 March 2009, during the opening ceremony of
ICANN's 34th international meeting in Mexico City,
Dr Twomey mentioned that he would be leaving ICANN in June
while remaining as Senior President until the end of the year.
[3]

His name has recently been mentioned in relation to
the Commonwealth Government's proposed
National Broadband Network.

true lilly wrote:'Not a matter of if, but when we find you'



HUNDREDS of tax dodgers caught and convicted
as the ATO warns:
"if you do the crime, you will face the consequences".
Vatican checked in laundering probe
From:AFP
November 27, 2011
3:19AM
Vatican probe:
The Vatican has been assessed to determine if it has tightened its regulations
to prevent money laundering.

Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied


COUNCIL of Europe inspectors have visited the Vatican to monitor its plans to tighten money laundering regulations.

The group from the Moneyval committee "met with representatives of
Vatican authorities dealing with the issue of prevention and fight
against money laundering and terrorist financing," a statement from the
Vatican said.


The group, composed of legal, financial and law enforcement experts
from five countries, arrived on Monday and left overnight, the statement said.


They are expected to present a report with their findings at a plenary session
of Moneyval "presumably in the middle of 2012," the Vatican said.


Pope Benedict XVI last December created a new financial authority
following an embarrassing investigation of Vatican bank officials by Italy.


The Vatican also approved a law from April
imposing sentences of up to
12 years in prison for money laundering
and 15 years for terrorist financing.


Related Coverage
In September last year,
Italian authorities launched an investigation into
and seized assets linked to
the Institute for Religious Works (IOR) -
the official name of the Vatican bank -
for alleged violation of money-laundering
rules.


The Vatican has also been excluded from an international "white list"
of countries compliant with strict financial controls.

The new financial authority is aimed at
bringing the Holy See in line with new global standards.
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Post  sharky on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:58 pm

el kabong wrote:Save your breath Barney.....lilly is very delusional...warped...deformed.........look at the Facts in this Thread:
Australia is mostly Desert Wasteland







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This Thread is about the Runt Continent Australia that is mostly Desert wasteland and what isn't desert wasteland is often flooded and about to be Volcanized!!!. Capiche? wave

For instance suzi wuzi/suze aka 'tru lilly/vera susa'; did you know:

Deserts comprise 1.3 million square miles or about 44% of the land area of Australia. thinking hmm wave



http://www.australiafacts.org/

Australia’s Desert Country

One third of Australia’s land is desert. Australia has 10 deserts of which the largest is the Great Victoria Desert, covering just under 5 percent of the country. Ironically, the Great Victoria Desert is not located in Victoria but is in Western Australia and South Australia. The Great Victoria Desert covers 348,750 square kilometres which makes it around one and a half times bigger than the UK or slightly smaller than Montana.

How Big is Australia?
Australia is the word’s smallest continent
noway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deserts_of_Australia

And if it isn't Desert Wasteland and flooded it's quaking, yes Suze, Australia is amongst the most unstable of Landmasses being part of the Ring of Fire.

Do you know any truths/facts? It doesn't seem so....hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

thinking hmm noway

Australia’s first recorded earthquake after white settlement occurred at Port Jackson, New South Wales in June, 1788 and lasted for about 3 seconds.

Other earthquakes recorded in early Australian history were:

■Hobart in 1827
■South Australia 1837
■Melbourne in 1841
■Perth in 1849.
The first recorded deaths in Australia caused by earthquakes occurred in 1902, at Warooka, South Australia. Two people died of shock after a Richter magnitude 6.0 earthquake.


A train line damaged by an earthquake
In 1917, one miner died and 5 were injured in an underground rock fall triggered by an earthquake in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.

In the last 80 years, there have been 17 earthquakes in Australia registering 6.0 or more on the Richter Scale. This is a rate of about one earthquake every five years, compared to the world average of about 140 per year.

Although the larger Australian earthquakes have caused significant damage, they are much smaller in strength than the world's most-damaging earthquakes. Until Newcastle's December 1989 earthquake, the damage caused by earthquakes in Australia had been comparatively low.

Quakes that Shook the Nation
Here is a list of some of the major earthquakes to have occured in Australia in recent times:

1 March 1954, Adelaide, South Australia
Adelaide was awakened by a loud rumbling sound. This was followed by shaking, severe enough to crack walls and loosen plaster and chimneys from many houses. Although minor compared to many overseas quakes, the Adelaide earthquake was (at magnitude 5.4) severe enough to cause damage estimated at $350 million (1997 values). No serious injuries were reported.

October 1968, Meckering, Western Australia
One of the more serious Australian earthquakes in fairly recent years occurred at the small town of Meckering. Residents reported seeing ground waves as well as experiencing difficulty when driving as the 6.9 Richter magnitude earthquake struck. Old buildings collapsed, railway lines were buckled and pipelines fractured, and a 37 kilometres long fault scarp (up to 2.5 metres high) was caused. Sixteen injuries were reported and the total cost of damage estimated $50 million.

22 January 1988, Tennant Creek, Northern Territory
Significant earthquakes of magnitudes 6.3, 6.4 and 6.8 occurred near Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. These resulted in large, long ground ruptures and a 35 kilometre fault (up to 2 metre displacement) which warped underground gas pipelines, but caused only minor damage to the hospital and some homes in the town.

28 December 1989, Newcastle, New South Wales
At 10.27am, Newcastle, Australia's sixth largest city, was partially devastated by a moderate earthquake measuring 5.6 on the Richter Scale. The Newcastle earthquake, the first lethal one in Australia, claimed 13 lives.

The devastation to buildings and other structures was extensive, which was unusual for a relatively-small magnitude earthquake. This was due mainly to an underlying, thin layer of alluvium, which appeared to magnify ground motion (shaking). The epicentre was located 15km West Southwest of the city centre, near Boolaroo.

August 1994, Ellalong, New South Wales
A damaging earthquake again affected the Hunter region of NSW, this time in the Ellalong-Cessnock area. Measuring 5.4 on the Richter Scale, it became our third most-damaging. Several homes, hotels and other buildings suffered seriously and up to 1,000 homes were partly damaged. Infrastructure, commercial and industrial losses also occurred. Insurance payouts were $38 million and total damage costs exceeded $150 million (1997 values).

The End of a Myth

A map showing the Earth's tectonic plates and
earthquake zones.
(see the text on the left for more information)
Despite Australia's seemingly low-risk situation in the middle of one of Earth's larger tectonic plates, we have had many earthquakes larger than that of Newcastle. The map to the right shows that Australia is in the middle of the Australian-Indian Plate.

The Australian Geological Survey Organisation in Canberra estimates that on average, the Australian region experiences an earthquake of at least this size, or larger, every 13-15 months.

Most of these earthquakes have been in low populated areas, so for many years people thought Australia could not be affected by this natural disaster. The Newcastle experience dispelled this myth!

Australian Geology
Due to Australia's geological position, we are prone to what seismologists call 'intra-plate' earthquakes.

These are different to the more familiar plate-margin earthquakes, common in areas like California in the USA and in Japan.



cheese

H boobies

Soooo............if Australia isn't a Desert Wasteland, flooded or being jarred and quaked it is likely that the inhabitants are going to be Bar-B-Qued by Volcanoes, yes Suze-aka 'tru lilly/vera susa' Australia has many Volcanoes and Fault Lines which shatters your deception that Australia is a fertile and stable environment.

got anymore falsehoods you want to share?

Why are you trying to lure innocent humans to that Desert hellhole?
noway



Volcanoes and Earthquakes.




Daily Earthquake activity Reports latest news feed

Earthquake and Fault Line Maps for Australia.

Is there a risk of a volcanic eruption in Australia ?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html


Mount Gambier ( Eastern South Australia ) Australia's youngest volcano.
A volcano filled with water. Erupted 4,500 years ago
"...volcanic activity must be considered a serious environmental hazard and risk for the Australian mainland. " Source: The risk of volcanic eruption in mainland Australia - E. B. Joyce.............................The Western Victorian Volcanic Plains are the third largest in the world and exceeded only by the Deccan in western India, and the Snake River Plateau in the United States ( Idaho-Nebraska ).

The Victorian Volcanic Plains are located in Western Victoria and covers over 2.3 million ha (10.36% of the State).
It stretches from Portland in the west to Craigieburn in the east and from Clunes in the north to Colac in the south.........................................“ There are around 400 volcanoes stretching from the Western District of Victoria into the Western Uplands around Ballarat wave and to the north of Melbourne around Kyneton and Kilmore, in some parts of the Eastern Uplands such as to the north of Benambra, and across to the South Australian border near Mt Gambier.
A volcanic eruption in the Western Uplands could potentially see lava flows and ash falls impacting on Melbourne.

There is also similar volcano risk present in various provinces in Far North Queensland, stretching from south-west of Townsville to near Cairns and up to Cooktown in the Far North. There are more than 380 volcanoes in total across this part of Queensland.
A future eruption in any of these regions would be unlikely to come from an existing volcano (as the volcanoes there are generally considered to be 'once only’ erupters).
Rather, future eruptions would occur at new sites nearby.
The geological record shows that new volcanoes in these areas have erupted perhaps every 2000 years in the past 40,000 years—and given there has not been a major eruption there for the past 5000 years, a significant eruption seems well overdue. " (3)
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Morocco Islamists win landmark election
by:By Henri Mamarbachi
From:
AFP
November 27, 2011

2:42AM


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Morocco Islamists win landmark election

Morocco's moderate Islamists have won the most seats
in a landmark parliamentary election.


MOROCCO'S moderate
Islamists have won the most seats in a landmark
parliamentary election,
the latest
religious party to achieve
spectacular gains on the back of

the Arab Spring.

The Justice and Development Party (PJD) captured 80 seats in the
395-seat assembly,
nearly double the 45 seats won by Prime Minister
Abbas el Fassi's Indpendence Party,
Interior Minister Taib Cherkaoui
told a news conference on Saturday.


The win - the first parliamentary poll victory for the party -
comes just one month after
Islamists
won Tunisia's post-revolution election and
days before their
predicted surge in Egyptian polls.

According to the new constitution overwhelmingly approved in a July referendum,
King Mohammed VI must now pick the prime minister from the party which won
the most seats in parliament, instead of naming whomever he pleases.


The king, the latest scion of a monarchy that has ruled the country for
350 years, proposed changes to the constitution that curb some of his
near absolute powers as autocratic regimes toppled in nearby Tunisia,
Egypt,
and Libya.


Related Coverage
Earlier on Saturday top PJD officials said their own figures showed
they had won over 100 seats in Friday's polls, the first since the
approval of the new constitution.


"We thank the Moroccans who voted for the PJD and we can only be satisfied,"
PJD secretary general Abdelilah Benkirane told reporters after the government
confirmed his party had won the most seats in the election.


He acknowledged his party would have to tailor its program to appease prospective
coalition partners and said
the PJD is "open to everyone" when it comes to forming alliances
.


"The nub of our program and of those who
will govern with us
will have a double axis
,
democracy and good governance," he told the France 24 television channel.


"From now on, Moroccans will feel that the state is at their service
and not the other way about," Benkirane added.
"That is very important for us."


The PJD has gradually increased its share of the vote in Morocco,
seen as one of the most stable countries in the region.


After winning just eight seats in 1997, it surged in popularity,
scooping 42 seats in the 2002 election, the first of King Mohammed VI's reign.

It then increased its share in the last election in 2007
when it finished second with 47 seats.


The party focused at first on
social issues, such as
opposition to summer music festivals and the sale of alcohol,
but has shifted to issues with broader voter appeal like the
fight against corruption and high unemployment.


During the current campaign it promised to cut poverty in half and raise the
minimum wage by 50 per cent.


Unlike the banned Islamist opposition group Justice and Charity,
the Justice and Development Party pledges its allegiance to the monarchy.


But Benkirane
cuts a controversial figure for previously
derogatory comments about Berber people and homosexuals.


In 2010 he tried to ban a concert in Morocco
by the openly gay singer Elton John
because of fears of
encouraging homosexuality.


The National Rally of Independents, the second-largest party in the
outgoing five-party government coalition, won 38 seats,
while the Party of Authenticity and Modernity,
founded in 2008 by people close to the king, got 33 seats.


So far only the Independence Party has said
it would be willing to govern with the Justice and Development Party.


The king proposed a new constitution on March 9, just 17 days after
thousands of people took to the streets across Morocco calling on him
to give up some of his powers in the biggest anti-establishment
protests in the country in decades.


Morocco's pro-reform February 20 protest movement, responsible for the protests,
had called on voters to boycott the elections. It says the constitutional reforms are
insufficient.


Voter turnout was 45.4 per cent, up from 37 per cent
from the last parliamentary election in 2007, but lower than the 51.6
per cent turnout recorded in 2002.


"This turnout, if confirmed, does not reflect enthusiasm for
the new constitution or political parties,
"
said Haizam Amirah Fernandez, senior analyst for the Arab world
at Spanish think tank Real Instituto Elcano.


In all, 31 parties competed for the 395 seats in the lower house of parliament -
with 60 seats reserved for women
and 30 set aside for candidates under the age of 40.

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Post  true lilly on Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:46 pm

LADY ANGERESS wrote:Bloody hell, can you fucking put you IGNORED
threads into your section of forum instead of trolling the general
section please. This forum had only a little bit of potential, but your
crap is putting a load of people from posting! And OI Droike, I am not
gonna delete any of the things I have written on my blogs because it is
THE TRUTH. Oh and one other thing, you great fucktard, you are on my
IGNORE list and hey when are you gonna post a whole load of porn in
Haggler's forum? That is your trademark accd to loads of people.
You
True Lilly is mentally troubled and leave my pal Billy Ruben alone, he
has more IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO WITH HIS LIFE INSTEAD of talking to the
likes of you OK.

It's "tintin" and HIS CREW that LOAD PEOPLES COMPUTERS WITH PORN.
Particularly, FUDGE PACKER and CHILD PORN.

Oh and he has a 'thing' about FISTING.

It's intended to scare people off using computers to communicate.

Particularly SURVIVORS of CHILD RAPISTS.

WHERE DO "YOU" - or any real, thinking person - think "THEY" GET "THEIR" Money
and BLACKMAILING POWER to RUN a world full of sites and forums, manned 24/7
to push "THEIR" Propaganda and CONSPIRE AGAINST THE JUST.

But, "THEY" do it too much and too often, and really went over the top with
BLUTOOTH, a device used to tear at the True Blue Faithful, with spying,
conspiring and blackmails.

Lucky for The Innocent that The Just know this, and also know how to 'read',
"tintin's" PLOTS and ORDERS:

tintin wrote: 06-12-2011, 06:17 PM
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3266
Nr 32
Quote:
"Wuthering Heights" came 32nd in Q magazine's Top 100 Singles of All Time, as voted by readers.
WUTHERING HEIGHTS and nr 32.


32 Teeth


APPLE means the 32 TEETH of humans.

Snow White

32 SNOW WHITE TEETH.
The code of BELGIUM is 32 and the king born 6 JUNE
and the QUEEN born SEPTEMBER 11. (SNOW WHITE)

Snow White

You see 32 and REAL.
REAL MADRID plays in SNOW WHITE.

06-12-2011, 06:19 PM
Quote:
Host city Nagano, Japan
Motto Coexistence with the Nature
Nations participating 72
Athletes participating 2,176 (1,389 men, 787 women)
Events 72 in 15 sports

72 nations participating and 72 events.
FIEDELIO is opus 72 and MEIN KAMPF has 720 pages.
CUBA, code 53, means FIDEL.
The FIDDLER link to JEWS.
Quote:
Judge's Oath Junko Hiramatsu
Olympic Torch
Midori Ito
Snow White - an orphan, LOVED By Her FATHER;
BETRAYED by His PROUD, YET, INSANELY JEALOUS WOman;
a princess, left alone in the wilds, yet HAPPY TO BE ALIVE
and GRATEFUL to be able to keep a little Home,
and CARE FOR 'little' people.

So of course, Team tintin and His Evil WITCHES, must TARGET such people
for destruction, as SUCH PEOPLE REFUSE TO SERVE THE BEAST.
Unlike The WITCH QUEEN who's NOT a REAL ROYAL, obsessed with HER own
flesh and BLOOD, trying to usurp The Crown by SPILLING REAL ROYAL BLOOD.

But GOD MADE IT CLEAR that it is NOT about "Bloodlines", that HE KNOWS
are easily CUT OFF, but HIS SPIRIT that CREATES and RAISES HIS FAMILY,
from 'stones' when need be!

HOLY means SEPERATE/D from the fleshly BLOODline OBSESSED.
Isaac & Ishmael, Jacob & Esau, throughout human history,
BLOOD Brothers, EVEN TWINS, are SEPARATED BY SPIRIT.

And this Family Feud has been going on since Lucifer tried to usurp
The Creator Father's Throne, and God RE-created LIFE on this Globe,
in the midst of that great battle field, FOR HIS FAITHFUL CHILDREN,
(both born and adopted), TO INHERIT FOR ETERNITY.

See, LIKE EVERY THINKING reader has noticed,
"tintin" does NOT post TODAY'S NEWS, in "TODAY'S NEWS".

Doesn't even try, since banning me and NO ONE DARE QUESTION WHY,
"tintin's", EVERY FORUM RULE BREAKING, Thread, IS ALLOWED TO KEEP GOING,
on 'David Icke's' Forum.

But, that question was asked, and answered, a long time ago, by those who matter,
and they do watch "tintin" AND WHO "he/they" BUY to do The Beast's bidding.
Watching, testing, sifting and sorting, the KNOWING DECEIVERS,
from the WILLINGLY IGNORANT and the deceived but REPENTANT.


Remember, man WAS Created in God's image, BUT,
REJECTED HIS WISDOM and DIED.

In His great mercy, He let us 'live', NO LONGER IN HIS IMAGE,
but in SKIN, FLESH and BLOOD, as the beasts, in a, SINCE THEN,
DEATH CONTAMINATED world.

A world that became so contaminated, that there was nowhere Holy
Separated from death, and LIFE would have ended, EXCEPT that
HE SENT HIS ONLY (so far) RESURRECTED SON, to pour out God's
Holy, HEALING SPIRIT of LIFE.

Teaching, trying, testing and correcting our Living Spirit, through
temptations, sins, and blessings of the flesh that returns to dust,
while our Spirit's sleep, until called to our resurrection, before,
His Final Judgement, when The ONLY sin that CONDEMNS us to
ETERNAL DEATH, is the sin that FIRST KILLED US:
FREELY, KNOWINGLY, WILLINGLY CHOOSING TO
REJECT HIS HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH, JUSTICE and LIFE.


And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to UNDERSTAND;
"FROM THE BEGINNING" MEANS, FROM THE BEGINNING.
Only a genuine desire to seek to understand and SERVE,
WITH GOD'S WISDOM.


Proverbs 8:1-36
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Pro&c=8&v=1&t=KJV#1
1
Does not wisdom keep calling out, and discernment keep giving forth its voice?
2
On top of the heights, by the way, at the crossing of the roadways
it has stationed itself.
3
At the side of the gates, at the mouth of the town,
at the going in of the entrances it keeps crying loudly:


4
To YOU, O men, I am calling, and my voice is to the sons of men.
5
O inexperienced ones, understand shrewdness;
and YOU stupid ones, understand heart.
6
Listen, for it is about the foremost things that I speak,
and the opening of my lips is about uprightness.
7
For my palate in low tones utters truth itself;
and wickedness is something detestable to my lips.
8
All the sayings of my mouth are in righteousness.
Among them there is nothing twisted or crooked.
9
All of them are straight to the discerning one,
and upright to the ones finding knowledge.
10
TAKE my discipline and not silver, and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11
For wisdom is better than corals, and all other delights themselves
cannot be made equal to it.


12
“I, wisdom, I have resided with shrewdness
and I find even the knowledge of thinking abilities.
13
The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad.
Self-exaltation and pride and the bad way and the perverse mouth I have hated.
14
I have counsel and practical wisdom. I—understanding; I have mightiness.
15
By me kings themselves keep reigning, and high officials themselves
keep decreeing righteousness.
16
By me princes themselves keep ruling as princes, and nobles are all judging in righteousness.
17Those loving me I myself love,
and those looking for me are the ones that find me.

18
Riches and glory are with me, hereditary values and righteousness.
19
My fruitage is better than gold, even than refined gold,
and my produce than choice silver.
20
In the path of righteousness I walk, in the middle of the roadways of judgment,
21
to cause those loving me to take possession of substance;
and their storehouses I keep filled.


22
“Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way,
the earliest of his achievements of long ago.
23
From time indefinite I was installed, from the start,
from times earlier than the earth.
24
When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains,
when there were no springs heavily charged with water.
25
Before the mountains themselves had been settled down,
ahead of the hills, I was brought forth as with labor pains,
26
when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces
and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land.

27
When he prepared the heavens I was there;
when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep,
28
when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains
of the watery deep to be strong,
29
when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves
should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth,
30
then I came to be beside him as a master worker,
and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day,
I being glad before him all the time,
31
being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of
were with the sons of men.


32
“And now, O sons, listen to me;
yes, happy are the ones that keep my very ways.

33
Listen to discipline and become wise, and do not show any neglect.
34
Happy is the man that is listening to me by keeping awake at my doors day by day,
by watching at the posts of my entrances.
35
For the one finding me will certainly find life,
and gets goodwill from Jehovah.

36
But the one missing me is doing violence to his soul
;
all those intensely hating me are the ones that do love death.”
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Post  Billy Ruben on Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:49 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/why-no-reviews-of-david-icke-preaching-in-melbourne-oct-2011-t2123-30.html

David Vincent wrote:
true lilly wrote:Seems 'some' need a little more context to understand
the great hole 'they' have dug 'themselves' into...with a lot
of 'help' from 'their' 'friends'.

Re: IT BEGINS....
http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1612p15-it-begins#26452
Post true lilly Today at 12:17 am


ROFLMAO rolf rolf rolf rolf

And the best part about that thread,is your "second death" that you threaten others with and boast about,isn't Judaic Old Testament,the thieves that they were,but based on The Mystery Schools of Egypt.

So you subscribe,to the very thing you hate

it's all...From Out Of Egypt....LULZ

Welcome to the family Suzy Ryan,take good care of you now.
Razz Very Happy


You spam,so shall I...

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
And, "you" are NOTHING.



Sure about that?!?!?!?!

Billy Ruben wrote:Do the right thing and seek not recognition for those deeds,it will be noted as a spiritual aspect for after death,then,maybe a fruiter like you can keep something of themselves as the ego layer is stripped away and fed to MAAT the reptilian,leaving you as a clear virgin shell of consciousness and soul.Have a nice day...

thumbs down



The lies,slander,conspiracies,the games,the cruelty you have displayed to people and animals...you think there's something worth of you sparing...I already know you're the walking dead,like 90% of the human trash that filth this planet.I just vainly try and warn those,what the real second death is....The joke's on you,Suzy Ryan,Gods Anointed Spammer...

wacky dizzy

Ammut (aka Ammit, Ammet, Amemet)

She waited in the throne room often hidden as the judges of the Egyptian dead weighed the hearts of the deceased. Evil folk's hearts would become her next snack. Their souls were the main course. This was a second death, as being barred from the afterlife the soul was doomed to wander forever over the earth. Ammut is part lioness, hippo, and crocodile. She is also called the Bone Eater and Devourer of Millions. She is a most holy being as she alone could thusly bar the evil from entering the afterlife.




sonic

Ahhh,excellent insights there Mr Ruben,if I say so myself,would'nt you agree True Lilly,you do,but you just don't realise it...

lol! popcorn


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
True Lilly wrote:
And there's 'Billy Ruben' with 'his'
months of death threats that specify such methods,
and associating himself with bad cops, health unionists,
biker groups, and really bad dudes...which you would right off,
as an attention seeking nutter...but for the at least
3 different phones 'he' uses, and, the others who know of,
and approve of 'his' death threats
, and the very specific
associations 'he' brags of, that make 'him' believe
'he's' 'untouchable'
enough to keep getting away with it.

...and then of course, there are
the 2 Car Bombs I've already survived...
and the other attacks by really bad dudes, etc...

and 'Jason/Billy Ruben's' dangerously erratic and
volatile behaviour that makes 'him' a liability to
'friends', 'associates' and
anyone 'he' 'perceives'
as a 'foe'.
Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes


We've all been through this.
Two months ago,when I got sick of True Lillys',baseless,groundless,slander and lies,against everyone whom she finds dis-pleasure with,ie,anybody who does'nt unquestioning believe,who littany of lies.
Frustrated to the point of doing something stupid,I decided to take my chances with Ballarat Police,close to where Suzy lives,she being the "BUM" part of town,Wendouree West,known for its bakeries and cock gobbling glory holes of Hollioke Park.
...I have the phone bill here to prove I rang on a Saturday.
Anyway,not expecting to get anywhere,especially,if I gave away my relationship with NSW Police,to be rather strained at best.
I was surprised to have my queries answered by a very professional and seasoned officer,who knew the law and history of Victoria and Ballarat.
...After describing my complaint,being accused as a babyfucker and goat abuser and so has many others by this nutter.I mentioned Suzy's ex-husband,Bill Ryan,a serving member?,remember,this is Suzy data,it could be made up at the bottom of a Gin bottle.

BAck in a minute...
The officer then took an interest and began looking for this Bill Ryan.I said to the officer,she'd be easy to remember,her car was blown up by bombing in her driveway and herself has been beaten up twice and put in a hospital.I could hear the keyboard,thumping away in the background,he's researching the data as I speak.He had a chuckle and said,there has'nt been a car-bombing in the state of Victoria for 30 years and that was the Russell St bombing.
...The officer,whose name I'll keep secret until Suzy Ryan,True Lilly/Vera Susa wants to reveal more or challenge this,said she can't be charged the way the laws stand now,but that may differ in the near future.

That sad little tale,that Suzy Ryan/True Lilly made up,lied about,she has been milking the public and friends for years,whether it's money,computers or a lift down the street,True Lilly has been profiting off her lies for many years now,off the good will of her readers.
She continues with her lies,cause they serve her well.I exposed her for this and hopefully,slowly,others catch on.She even plays this on her own family,and she abandoned them,in favour of delivering Gods Saving Word,her schizoid spam,even over the love of her children.Still think she's not a threat,guess again,she's a dangerous,manipulative,game-playing,conspiring schizoid,who fooled many of you with her old lady act.
She isn't nice,frail or alone.She's very well connected.She's a liar,slanderer,extortionist,is this the quality of character,that one should have to advocate God for you?
Nutter extraordinaire...But wait,there's more,WOOF,WOOF...


rolling pin dogshag butt Razz

Now see her above post,it still contains the lies that she's trying to utilize to build another fantasy,completely crackers,but then again,it's the only game she has in town,as the management said,it's what she does,well,I don't have to tolerate it,her or her lying crap.

Billy Ruben wrote:...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...



Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.


How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

cthulhu cthulhu

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER


rolf rolf rolf rolf

Razz Razz Razz Razz

pig pig pig pig

tongue tongue tongue tongue

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... ...
... or you could simply 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...


Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.


DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...


Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?


From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben


your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after
, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.


Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...





the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...


True Lilly,puts her foot in it:
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.


Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...


THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...


Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu


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Post  true lilly on Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:44 pm

Explosions rock anti-mafia priest's center in Italy
From:AFP
December 27, 2011
9:37AM
A PAIR of explosions Monday (local time)
rocked a center for immigrant children
run by an anti-mafia priest in southern Italy,

local officials said, adding that no one was injured.


One of the blasts slightly damaged part of the building in Lamezia Terme,
a town with historic ties to the Calabrian mafia, known as the 'Ndrangheta.

The four-story building has since 2004 been used as a center for disabled people
run by Father Giacomo Panizza, who has struggled for years against the mafia.

"This seems like a very clear message," said the priest, known locally as Don Panizza.
He said he has received previous death threats from the powerful crime syndicate.

Last year, Panizza added an immigrant children's center to his building. The building
had been previously confiscated from the 'Ndrangheta after the group used it as a front
for drug trafficking.

Related Coverage


Panizza is respected across Italy for his social work and struggle against organized crime.
true lilly wrote:
PEOPLE SMUGGLERS PREY ON NEW ARRIVALS
People smugglers prey on new arrivals
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/people-smugglers-preying-on-new-arrivals/story-fn7x8me2-1226230797939

Richard Noone, Jessica Marszalek

PEOPLE smugglers are sending touts to Indonesian airports in an effort
to sign up arrivals willing to jump on a boat to Australia.

THE Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from other western countries
. Read more

The Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers,
sailors and air crew from Britain, the US and other western countries
in order to fill quotas.

The Australian reports (subscribers only) the navy has sent a delegation to Britain
to discover how many retrenched sailors, particularly engineers, are available.


A report on maintenance in Australia's navy suggested that
as many as 200 engineers are needed to rebuild lost expertise.


The paper reports the department also is looking for defence specialists,
such as fighter pilots, submarine crews and officers and are
offering
fast-tracked Australian citizenship as an incentive.
true lilly wrote:Still nothing from these either:
Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011
Hagbard Celine

Footie McGrew

Ciggy

Lemonpie
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:57 am
Posts: 324

...oh, lots of bitter ranting against those who don't buy 'their' poison,
but nothing to explain the mysteries of David Icke's Heavily Advertised as
"Sold Out" 2011 Melbourne Show.
Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to
,
One VERY big 'hint'

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Posted: Mar 1 2007, 07:02 PM
by true-lilly

Joined: 13-March 06


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tintin wrote:
15-5-2008
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=494
Jordan and RUDD

This RUDESS means KEVIN RUDD.
KEVIN RUDD is the Prime minister of AUSTRALIA.
Australia is the HOME of people.
The real HOME. The PROMISED land.


The road to OZ....


The Golden Road...

California or JORDAN is DREAMLAND. Not real. Will disappear...

Jordan Rudess, born 4 NOVEMBER
member of DREAM THEATRE.


From Jordan (California) to
the land of Kevin RUDD.
THE ROAD HOME.
AUSTRALIA

Yep, that's close to 7 years of the "Ciggy's & tintin's"
continuing to hang themselves with the lifelines I drop them.


BRITAIN WARNED OF RECESSION RISK
Britain warned of recession risk

11:57AM
AFP
THE crisis in the eurozone
and sapped consumer confidence
risk sending Britain into recession,
a leading think tank warns.

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Post  true lilly on Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:07 pm

You do realize how MANY DANGEROUS roads, seas and borders
these 'asylum seekers' HAVE TO ESCAPE, OUT of AND INTO,
to 'escape' the HOMElands they are 'claiming' to need asylum from,
before they make it to their TARGET COUNTRY, AUSTRALIA,
O'Zion.


Australian 'Mr X' sought over asylum boat tragedy
by:AAP
From:AAP
December 30, 2011

9:29AM


Watch
Aust man sought over asylum boat tragedy

Australian man accused of involvement with organisers of the overloaded asylum boat that sank off Java.

Indonesian
police carry a young boy who survived the boat tragedy. The boat was
heavily overloaded with Afghan and Iranian asylum-seekers.
Picture: AFP AdelaideNow


AN Australian has been accused of involvement with organisers of the
overloaded asylum seeker boat that sank this month killing as many as
200 people.

Indonesian police spokesman Saud Usman Nasution has told Fairfax
newspapers that investigators have given the name of the man to
Australian Federal Police after several survivors identified him.


"We have passed on the name of the Australian man - Mr X - to the AFP
to follow up," Inspector-General Nasution said.


But an AFP spokeswoman told Fairfax that
"the AFP has not received a referral from the Indonesian national police".


"The AFP has made no arrests in relation to this matter
and this is a matter for the Indonesian authorities,"
she said.


Told of the AFP comments,
General Nasution insisted the name
had been passed on and the investigation was a joint effort by
both countries' law enforcement agencies.


Four Indonesian soldiers have been detained for their involvement
with two local owners of small boats used to ferry the asylum seekers to
their "mother ship" at sea, but there have been reports indicating more
security personnel and officials were involved.


General Nasution said multiple suspects had been identified in Indonesia and in
"countries of origin", understood to be Pakistan and Iran.
true
lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:First a cup of tea,then I make
your life miserable old slag.I know you love it,you have nothing of
value to say.Hide away yesterday?Really think I'm joking about reporting
you Suzy Ryan...I did.



Is "tintin" still alive?
Well, it's been a while since I've read 'Aarnout van der Plooge/tintin's' 'voice'
in 'his' posts, and some really big things happened around those times he
'went away' and would come back with different 'voices'.

You know, the really big things that I posted on
and the rest of The CONspiracy Industry ignored,
as 'they' do when it shows 'them' for what 'they' are.

true lilly wrote:I tried to post this to make my ICKEST=TEAM TINTIN KILLER Point - A
PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND WORDS...THE ICKEST 'lions' PLAN TO DEVOUR
AUSTRALIANS... SO 'they' ARE SLAVING TO CONvince THE WORLD of THE FILTHY
LIE that, WE OF O'Zion "AREN'T HUMAN"...!!!
http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=246
true lilly wrote:IT BEGINS....
true lilly wrote:CAN'T FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY?
WE WANT YOU.

Can't fight for your own country? We want you


THE Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from other western countries
. Read more

The Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and
air crew from Britain, the US and other western countries in order to fill quotas.

The Australian reports (subscribers only) the navy has sent a delegation to Britain
to discover how many retrenched sailors, particularly engineers, are available.


A report on maintenance in Australia's navy suggested that
as many as 200 engineers are needed to rebuild lost expertise.


The paper reports the department also is looking for defence specialists,
such as fighter pilots, submarine crews and officers and are
offering
fast-tracked Australian citizenship as an incentive.
Billy Ruben wrote:I
was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour
warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health
act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5
days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me
away after the hoax rape fiasco.


Of course I was sane,even the
nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt
with a patient a victim of the same group.


But don't say I didn't
warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and
maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe
laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker
in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting
needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.


Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This
part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and
snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my
job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.


And I know
you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent
your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.


Now,enjoy
the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I
will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of
course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I
love you.


true lilly wrote:
MRS SARABJIT PALMER!!! wrote:Yes !!!!!!!!! Yes
!!!!!!!!! Yes !!!!!!!!! Make MRS TISWAS PALMER a ModerAtor OF Sodlike
Productions MR SODLIKE!!!!!!! yOU NEED A STRONG WILLED PERSON HERE aND
MRS TISWAS PALMER IS hard wHen it come to the strap adiCktome nights
WITH BARRY.

true lilly wrote:NO.
So I expect it.

Well 'you' can only spam over so much Real World News
that 'you' 'all' abuse me for asking folk to THINK about.

AEC admits it can't establish
who is flouting electoral laws


Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election
by true lilly

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA
by true lilly

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
by true lilly

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?
by true lilly

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by TIZWAS
Should Tiswas be appointed Moderator Of Sodlike Productions
by Billy Ruben

AEC admits it can't establish
who is flouting electoral laws


by:Jessica Marszalek
From:Herald Sun
December 30, 2011
12:00AM
28 comments

Julia Gillard and her partner Tim Mathieson during the 2010 federal poll. Herald Sun

AS many as 16,000 Australians got away with voting more than once in the 2010 razor's edge federal poll.

Dozens may have voted three times or more, but only three copped a slap on the wrist.

The Australian Electoral Commission has admitted to a Senate committee its
own records make it difficult to tell who is flouting electoral laws.

And it has been revealed little can be done if voters deny it.

Of the 16,189 people the AEC suspected of multiple votes, 5211 denied it
and 80 per cent of the 1458 who confessed were new voters or did not
understand how to vote.

It was decided 7925 were errors, many caused when
voters with similar names were recorded under the same name by accident.

Electoral Commissioner Ed Killesteyn told the committee the offence was
hard to prove as there was no real evidence if a person denied the offence.

Victorian Liberal senator Scott Ryan said the lack of prosecution
sent a confusing message to the country.

There have been calls for the introduction of photo ID,
with some seats won or lost on just a few votes.

28 comments on this story

Icke Interfers with AUSTRALIAN Election
by true lilly

David Icke site BETRAYS AUSTRALIA
by true lilly

MASS MANIPULATOR David Icke INDUSTRIES
by true lilly

Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011?
by true lilly

SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT AUSTRALIA!!!
by TIZWAS
Should Tiswas be appointed Moderator Of Sodlike Productions
by Billy Ruben
Wink
true lilly wrote:TV ban on asylum seekers
by:The Australian
From:The Australian
December 28, 2011
12:12AM


TV stations may be banned from showing images of asylum seekers*
arriving in Australia by boat, The Australian reported today.

New rules handed down by the Australian Communications and Media
Authority restrict what can be broadcast, after lobbying from the
Immigration Department.


Under the changes, a person's *privacy would be protected
even if they were filmed in a public place.


The rules would mean that broadcasting images of *asylum seekers arriving
in Australian waters by boat
might be stopped
, the newspaper said.


PEOPLE SMUGGLERS PREY ON NEW ARRIVALS
People smugglers prey on new arrivals


Richard Noone, Jessica Marszalek

PEOPLE smugglers are sending touts to Indonesian airports in an effort
to sign up arrivals willing to jump on a boat to Australia.

Editorial: Boats continue to set sail
true lilly wrote:Last Updated: December 28, 2011
TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES AHEAD
Tough economic times ahead

Stephen McMahon

THE tidal wave of bad news
that has engulfed the global economy
in the past six months is
expected to worsen in early 2012.


BRITAIN AT RISK OF TUMBLING
Britain at risk of tumbling


Stephen McMahon
BRITAIN is in danger of becoming
the latest European casualty
with a warning it risks tumbling into
a "double dip" recession next year.


AUSSIE WAGES LURE RECORD NUMBER OF KIWIS
Aussie wages lure record number of Kiwis

NUMBER of Kiwis setting up home in Australia
hits an all-time high,

with nearly 1000 people a week crossing the ditch.
It Began,
LONG BEFORE May 2008...

true lilly wrote:Professor Bill Collins devises
'billion-year perspective'
to pinpoint minerals

From:AAP
December 27, 2011

12:24AM
AN Australian scientist says he has found a way
to make it easier to locate valuable minerals.


Professor Bill Collins, of the University of Newcastle's School of Environmental and
Life Sciences, says he has devised a new "billion-year perspective" that examines
the way the Earth was constructed over the past 2000 million years.

The information can be used to try to pinpoint the location
of potential mineral deposits.


"We can use continental drift and other techniques
to track the continents back through time,"
Prof Collins said today.


"It is like a big jigsaw puzzle
with bits and pieces of continents
ripping off one landmass
and transferring to another."

Prof Collins believes the Pacific Rim
contains many copper and gold deposits.


Examining geological information contained in tiny grains of zircon,
which is common in the crust of the Earth, has also given him a new way
to find where the ancient "Pacific Rims" were.


"Many of the ancient margins are now within the continental interior.
This is where the copper and gold reserves will be hidden."

Prof Collins said the ability to predict prospective terrains,
both under the surface and in the highest geological layers,
will be the biggest benefit of his research.
Oh, we know why "you legion" regularly read my posts,
and made me a little cave to post them in.

However, the quality of the readership is not the issue,
but that for close to 7 years, they've continued to be read,
by both, non-replying, independently thinking readers, and,
the same Professional Trolls, who have attacked me with the
same bald faced lies, from the beginning.

And the only thing you all have in common, is interest in a
real world, world view, that other's aren't paying attention to.
Some, to do good with what that view reveals, others, to do ill.

So I don't post much of anything anymore, and stick mainly to
the front pages of the popular news when I do, and then, without
much commentary, if any at all.

And dang if the fools don't still find ways to hang themselves, by
fishing for 'what I mean (by what someone else wrote)',
and/or attacking me for what they
'think I mean (by what someone else wrote)'.
Even when I post news that they generally agree with,
they still manage to excuse attacking me anyway.Rolling Eyes

It's called, "Today's News and Current Affairs", and I post some
that cover topics worthy of full and free consideration, with links
to quoted sources, for readers to further explore the topics from. Smile
true lilly wrote:
Tuesday 27 December 2011

Curbs on Antarctic tourism

Plans to limit tourism in Antarctic

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/antarctica/5140141/Plans-to-limit-tourism-in-Antarctic.html
The number of tourists visiting Antarctica could be restricted
under British plans, amid fears that the increase in cruise ships in the
area threatens to cause irreparable damage to the continent's pristine
environment.

Some may recall I posted other old 'news' on this recently,
from an Australian perspective.

As I did years ago, when I posted about
"Patagonian Toothfish Pirates", and
The 'Whaling' Wars
.


It is NOT about 'tourists' hurting the frozen south,
it is NOT about protecting fish and whales,
but about Shoring Up The Glorious South;
The Land Promised to Re-gathered Israel.


Japan eases self-imposed arms export ban
From:AFP

December 27, 2011 8:42PM

TOKYO has eased a decades-old self-imposed ban on arms exports,
paving the way for Japanese firms to participate in multinational
weapons projects.

In a move intended to bolster the domestic arms industry and
reduce national defence spending, officially pacifist Japan will for
the first time in decades routinely allow its companies to partner with
foreign firms
to develop weapons.


"Under the new standards, Japan will be able to transport military equipment
for missions of peace-building and international co-operation," Foreign Minister
Koichiro Gemba told reporters today.


"This will mean that Japan can now address
international peace co-operation
and global challenges such as terrorism and piracy
more proactively and effectively.
"

Japan, whose industries took many years to recover from the devastation of
World War II, declared in 1967 that it would very tightly control its
foreign weapons sales.


Related Coverage
At the height of the Cold War, then prime minister Eisaku Sato said
Tokyo would not sell armaments to communist states, countries directly
engaged in international conflicts, or nations under UN arms embargoes.


The restrictions were further tightened in 1976 when Japan said all exports
would be subject to stringent rules that effectively barred all weapon sales.


A limited number of exceptions were subsequently made for technological
co-operation projects such as missile defence with the United States, Japan's
cornerstone security ally.


The new rules will allow Japan to develop and produce arms jointly with the US
and European countries and to export military equipment for peaceful and
humanitarian purposes such as UN peace-keeping operations.


Tokyo will also be allowed to provide defensive equipment, such as helmets and
bullet-proof vests, to the limited number of countries in which its Self-Defence Forces
are deployed.


Critics of the ban say it was a Cold War relic that has resulted in Japan's military
hardware capability becoming outdated,while increasingly assertive regional rival
China continues to spend heavily on defence technology.


But supporters say any move to expand Tokyo's military reach, however limited,
is likely to rankle in Beijing and Seoul, where Japan's wartime aggression remains
a sensitive subject.
true lilly wrote:Still nothing from these either:
Why NO Reviews of David Icke PREACHING in MELBOURNE Oct 2011
Hagbard Celine

Footie McGrew

Ciggy

Lemonpie
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:57 am
Posts: 324

...oh, lots of bitter ranting against those who don't buy 'their' poison,
but nothing to explain the mysteries of David Icke's Heavily Advertised as
"Sold Out" 2011 Melbourne Show.

Where is The Global Power Base
shifting to
,
One VERY big 'hint'

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Posted: Mar 1 2007, 07:02 PM
by true-lilly

Joined:
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Craig Oxley/Bro. Jon Phelp's "The Unhived Mind"
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=21916
Board Closed
This board has been closed for Terms of Service violations.

The Terms of Service
tintin wrote:
15-5-2008
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=494
Jordan and RUDD

This RUDESS means KEVIN RUDD.
KEVIN RUDD is the Prime minister of
AUSTRALIA.

Australia is the HOME of people.
The real HOME. The PROMISED land.


The road to OZ....


The Golden Road...
California or JORDAN is DREAMLAND. Not real. Will disappear...

Jordan Rudess, born 4 NOVEMBER
member of DREAM THEATRE.


From Jordan (California) to
the land of Kevin RUDD.
THE ROAD HOME.
AUSTRALIA

Yep, that's close to 7 years of the "Ciggy's & tintin's"
continuing to hang themselves with the lifelines I drop them.
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Post  true lilly on Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:25 pm

Another stupid effort to have folk shouting,
"Icke was right!", when the only things he's ever been right about are
what everyone knew before he did, and, NONE of the twittering masses
have any power to do anything about, OTHER THAN RIOT, DESTROY, KILL and WAR, AS THEY HAVE.

Post subject:
Re: Brooks Agnew - North Pole Inner Earth Expedition
Author:
Celtic Viking


Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:32 am
Ron Hill
Warning!!!!!!
Brooks Agnew is a rip off artist. He along with his
cohorts have been pulling this hoax trip to find the entrance to the
hollow Earth for some years now. No matter how they sell it this time
you will not get to the artic circle or even close. Agnew and Curry
before him have done this many times. They fool people into handing over
huge amounts of money but in the end there is always some hitch and
despite what Agnew says in that interview nobody ever gets their cash
back.
The buggers were even known to set up female stooges on forums
to say they were on the ship and going but it broke down so they had to
turn back.

http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/brooks-agnew-north-pole-inner-earth-expedition-t2438.html

Yet for years, I've been showing what GOD'S WORD Warns us to Watch for,
and sure enough, the events HE FORETOLD, follow the warning signs HE GAVE US.

So, David Icke ADMITS he IS A FASCIST.

Well, an ANTI ANTI-FASCIST IS A PRO-FASCIST, right.

Post subject:
Re: Warman vs Icke

http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/warman-vs-icke-t2107-150.html
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:01 pm
Ron Hill
watch and listen at 7:20.

But there is a fine line between, Fascist and Benevolent Dictator,
a, Very FINE
Wink Very Happy , line.

I vote Benevolent Dictator.
Wink Very Happy


Oh and Warman/Icke, both playing the same court,
stuffing War Chests.

Well, an Icke NEEDS a Warman to 'justify' begging for so long,
for so much more money...and getting it.
Rolling Eyes

So no, it isn't David Icke that gets to enjoy
rolling around in 'all' that filthy luker: just enough of it
to keep him peddling the snake oils 'they' sell to fund
'their' War Against The Creator of Life.


ISAIAH 33:1
1
Woe to you who are despoiling, without you yourself being despoiled,
and to you who are dealing treacherously,
without [others] having dealt treacherously with you!
As soon as you have finished as a despoiler, you will be despoiled.
As soon as you have done with dealing treacherously,
they will deal treacherously with you.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=33&v=1&t=KJV#1
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Post  Billy Ruben on Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:07 pm

Billy Ruben wrote:
Hi shitbag scumbucket.Cause you were spiteful spamming unrelate crap this morning and my little modem packed in,I just had a friend/connection replace modem,line filter,all chords and Now I'm going to be a bastard and spam the fuck out of this place.Sod was warned and he can't do shit about it,so suck my dick you dog raping,child porn freak...and you admitted you have child porn and JD John Drake/Droike plays moral card one day and defends a known and self confessed pervert the next day.Enjoy the Federal Police babe,cause they're next babe...FUCK YOU BITCH !!!!!!

cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu

Billy Ruben wrote:
I was wondering Suzy Ryan,as a rough guess,did you get your 24 hour warning today?.When you do and if,under section 32 of the Mental Health act in NSW,you just have to hide in the cupboard like I did for 5 days,when I had three squad cars and a padded wagon waiting to take me away after the hoax rape fiasco.

Of course I was sane,even the nurses noticed that,believed my occult story one of them,having dealt with a patient a victim of the same group.

But don't say I didn't warn you,it's for your own good and well-being,taking a break and maybe,besides giving you plastic forks and knives and taking your shoe laces off you,(wear slip-ons or boots),behave,they might let you tinker in the garden.But you hold up those police officers with knitting needles,like I expect and you'll get your WACO...understand me.

Because,I really am Tintin/David Icke and have had my eye on you for a very long time little missy.

This part of the universe is dark and in control of Satan itself and snuffing out the very few specks of light in this dark,evil world,is my job.Don't take it to personal,my little Jesus lamb.

And I know you are the lamb to be sacrificed to begin Armageddon,but I will prevent your blood from flowing,little child of God.It is my world.

Now,enjoy the prescription drugs,a heavy regimen of,to chemically labotomise and I will visit every night,to spoon feed your mushy gruel,plastic spoon of course with a little prozac sprinkles on your ice-cream.It's because I love you.

satan satan satan satan




Billy Ruben wrote:
And when you decide to take a long stroll or go shopping,it's best to have every time-table for buses and trains,like I did.I escaped and went home for bongs,sex and real food.And a shower I did'nt need to wear footwear in.Seeing this horrible old 70 year old,squashing a shit down the drain hole of the shower.I was disgusted.Lock your shower door,or the fat brunette,who offered me free rent and a share in her house,came running in,sucking on my flaccid penis,the shampoo,blinding me at the very right second,almost,comical.I was scared of her.And always knock,before you enter any room,this horrible looking man,said I'm the Butterfly,just as hs started to ejaculate all over the back of the door from fast and furious wanking...be warned.It's gonna be fun.

cthulhu lmao


Billy Ruben wrote:Keep credit cards,ATM savings cards and all electronic ways of getting money,home,or hidden in your pants.They usually keep it in a safe and only allow you $15 a day back in 2002.Do not wear jewellery,rings,wedding or any sort.Keep valuables at home,or safety deposit box.




Billy Ruben wrote:
and keep your stupid fucking beliefs to yourself,OK...





Billy Ruben wrote:There is a forum admin here,named Sod/Julian.He's over 35,looks like a demonic version of Sting,Pommy (English),loves a night on the booze and drugs,which on average,makes him a lazy bastard.Like most western men are.Spoilt fuckin' rotten I say.But he'll find his runners,when he's conscripted for Asian battlefields,soon enough.I mean,if the bastard could use an iron lung to assist breathing,he would.It means,he hardly ever moderates,bit picky on who he answers PM's,real bitch.

However,there is a very skilled,rather energetic,smart and sassy,unbiased world wide women here,named Tiswas.

She's spiritual,understanding,gives good debates and I believe,quite unbiased in all matters concerning Icke.Offers the olive branch to those who foolishly,troll and attempt to sway her to the dark side.

This rare lady of light,with all her wisdom and knowledge,would be a great assett to the forums administration and I believe she is the answer to cleaning up the spam wars we have here,for which I trully,hand on heart apologise for my own involvement.

I hope the current admin,the one who needs a iron lung to breathe,maybe consider this idea as one of the few rare instances that I could conceive,that has a small amount of merit.

If anyone feels the idea should be lobbied to our admin,please raise your concerns here.

Thankyou to the forum for your time and consideration,yours sincerely,Billy Ruben.


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Billy Ruben wrote:I am sure,in the name of freedom of speech,that Droike,Marpat and True Lilly,their futures would be safe,in the hands of Tiswas.

Not so with Mr Ruben,who would Nazi there arses and relegate them to a new sub-forum,called The Gas Chamber.

Be lucky,that true lights like Tiswas exist.

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Post  true lilly on Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:46 pm

Anyway, back to that "time, times and half a time" thing

that preaching, The 'out of Egypt' Apostasy, attempts to


hide, even from 'the very elect', whom 'they' can't deceive.



Oz=O'Zion, Antarctica=Lebanon, AS GOD DESCRIBE OF and

From The Beginning, so that we could also SEE ALL HIS

WARNINGS and PROMISES, right to 'the end', BEING FULFILLED.




2 KINGS 19:


23-

I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.


24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet all the Nile canals of Egypt.



(NO, it does NOT say that, but: the rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.)





http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ki&c=19&v=1&t=KJV#1

1
And it came about that as soon as King Hez·e·ki´ah
heard, he immediately ripped his garments apart and covered himself
with sackcloth and came into the house of Jehovah. 2
Further, he sent E·li´a·kim, who was over the
household, and Sheb´nah the secretary and the older men of the priests
covered with sackcloth to Isaiah the prophet the son of A´moz. 3
And they proceeded to say to him: “This is what
Hez·e·ki´ah has said, ‘This day is a day of distress and of rebuke and
of scornful insolence; for the sons have come as far as the womb’s
mouth, and there is no power to give birth. 4
Perhaps Jehovah your God will hear all the words
of Rab´sha·keh, whom the king of As·syr´i·a his lord sent to taunt the
living God, and he will actually call him to account for the words that
Jehovah your God has heard. And you must lift up prayer in behalf of the
remnant that are to be found.’”





5
So the servants of King Hez·e·ki´ah came in to Isaiah. 6
Then Isaiah said to them: “This is what YOU should say to YOUR
lord, ‘This is what Jehovah has said: “Do not be afraid because of the
words that you have heard with which the attendants of the king of
As·syr´i·a spoke abusively of me. 7
Here I am putting a spirit in him, and he must
hear a report and return to his own land; and I shall certainly cause
him to fall by the sword in his own land.”’”





8
After that Rab´sha·keh returned and found the king
of As·syr´i·a fighting against Lib´nah; for he had heard that he had
pulled away from La´chish. 9
He heard it said respecting Tir·ha´kah the king of
E·thi·o´pi·a: “Here he has come out to fight against you.” Therefore he
sent messengers again to Hez·e·ki´ah, saying: 10
“This is what YOU men
should say to Hez·e·ki´ah the king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in
whom you are trusting deceive you, saying: “Jerusalem will not be given
into the hand of the king of As·syr´i·a.” 11
Look! You yourself have heard what the kings of
As·syr´i·a did to all the lands by devoting them to destruction; and
will you yourself be delivered? 12
Have the gods of the nations that my forefathers
brought to ruin delivered them, even Go´zan and Ha´ran and Re´zeph and
the sons of E´den that were in Tel-as´sar? 13
Where is he—the king of Ha´math and the king of Ar´pad and the king of the cities of Seph·ar·va´im, He´na and Iv´vah?’”





14
Then Hez·e·ki´ah took the letters out of the hand
of the messengers and read them, after which Hez·e·ki´ah went up to the
house of Jehovah and spread it out before Jehovah. 15
And Hez·e·ki´ah began to pray before Jehovah and
say: “O Jehovah the God of Israel, sitting upon the cherubs, you alone
are the [true] God of all the kingdoms of the earth. You yourself have
made the heavens and the earth. 16
Incline your ear, O Jehovah, and hear. Open your
eyes, O Jehovah, and see, and hear the words of Sen·nach´er·ib that he
has sent to taunt the living God. 17
It is a fact, O Jehovah, the kings of As·syr´i·a have devastated the nations and their land. 18
And they have consigned their gods to the fire,
because they were no gods, but the workmanship of man’s hands, wood and
stone; so that they destroyed them. 19
And now, O Jehovah our God, save us, please, out
of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you, O
Jehovah, are God alone.”





20
And Isaiah the son of A´moz proceeded to send to
Hez·e·ki´ah, saying: “This is what Jehovah the God of Israel has said,
‘The prayer that you have made to me concerning Sen·nach´er·ib the king
of As·syr´i·a I have heard. 21
This is the word that Jehovah has spoken against him:






“The virgin daughter of Zion has despised you, she has held you in derision.
Behind you the daughter of Jerusalem has wagged her head.





22
Whom have you taunted and spoken of abusively?
And against whom have you lifted up your voice
And do you raise your eyes on high?
It is against the Holy One of Israel!





23
By means of your messengers you have taunted Jehovah and you say,
‘With the multitude of my war chariots I myself—
I shall certainly ascend the height of mountainous regions,
The remotest parts of Leb´a·non;
And I shall cut down its lofty cedars, its choice juniper trees.
And I will enter its final lodging place, the forest of its orchard.





24
I myself shall certainly dig and drink strange waters,
And I shall dry up with the soles of my feet all the Nile canals of Egypt.


(NO, it does NOT say that, but: the rivers 2975 of besieged places 4693.)




25
Have you not heard? From remote times it is what I will do.
From bygone days I have even formed it.
Now I will bring it in.
And you will serve to make fortified cities desolate as piles of ruins.





26
And their inhabitants will be feeble-handed;
They will simply be terrified and will be ashamed.
They must become as vegetation of the field and green tender grass,
Grass of the roofs, when there is a scorching before the east wind.





27
And your sitting quiet and your going out and your coming in I well know,
And your exciting yourself against me,





28
Because your exciting yourself against me and your roaring have come up into my ears.
And I shall certainly put my hook in your nose and my bridle between your lips,
And I shall indeed lead you back by the way by which you have come.”





29
“‘And this will be the sign for you: There will
be an eating this year of the growth from spilled kernels, and in the
second year grain that shoots up of itself; but in the third year sow
seed, you people, and reap and plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. 30
And those who escape of the house of Judah, those who are left, will certainly take root downward and produce fruitage upward. 31
For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth, and
those who escape from Mount Zion. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies
will do this.





32
“‘That is why this is what Jehovah has said
concerning the king of As·syr´i·a: “He will not come into this city nor
will he shoot an arrow there nor confront it with a shield nor cast up a
siege rampart against it. 33
By the way by which he proceeded to come, he will return, and into this city he will not come, is the utterance of Jehovah. 34
And I shall certainly defend this city to save it for my own sake and for the sake of David my servant.”’”





35
And it came about on that night that the angel of
Jehovah proceeded to go out and strike down a hundred and eighty-five
thousand in the camp of the As·syr´i·ans. When people rose up early in
the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses. 36
Therefore Sen·nach´er·ib the king of As·syr´i·a pulled away and went and returned, and he took up dwelling in Nin´e·veh. 37
And it came about that as he was bowing down at
the house of Nis´roch his god, A·dram´me·lech and Shar·e´zer, his sons,
themselves struck him down with the sword, and they themselves escaped
to the land of Ar´a·rat. And E´sar-had´don his son began to reign in
place of him.
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Post  Billy Ruben on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:48 am

Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:So, how many have kept count of all the times
"Billy Ruben", just has to jump in and attack me
for posting GOOD NEWS of CHILD PORN RINGS
GETTING BUSTED?

How many have figured out what that SAYS ABOUT
"Billy Ruben"?

Particularly as "Billy Ruben" GETS EXTRA ANGRY
when baby fuckers ARE ALSO LINKED TO, 'respected'
positions, like say, THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY.

Speaking of which, how many have noticed that
"Billy Ruben" can't even get my husband's TRADE
OR NAME right, in his desperate efforts to SPIN BS
out of what I actually post?

Makes one wonder WHY "Billy Ruben" is NOT so keen
to 'defend', THE ACTUAL PERSON, but rather, DEFENDS
THE ACTUAL PERSON, BY TRYING TO IMPLICATE OTHERS.

Interesting to how "Billy Ruben" threatens me with
State and Federal Police for posting MAIN STREAM NEWS
AND ASKING WHY Police have NOT come for that pc
that someone loaded CHILD PORN on, WHILE I WAS
SLEEPING (Not alone), AT THE OTHER END of THE HOUSE.

Seems "Billy Ruben" NEEDS the world to believe that
the ONLY CORRUPT Police, are those "Billy Ruben"
'claims' to be 'fighting', NOT THOSE PROTECTING
CHILD PORN PEDDLERS, and REFUSING TO PROTECT
THEIR VICTIMS.


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No you lying dog-rooting slut.And you know it.You play the game of insinuating I have involvement in filth peddling and drug and gun runningYou know the truth of your own lies and I have exposed everyone of them.Noticed you did'nt get phone texts like you saidAnd those recent,that I save,so when you falsely accuse,I can prove otherwise.You only just got that Blue-tooth connection and I have'nt bit for months.Stupid fuck you are,you give the game away before it gets on the way.Come on,prove otherwise.

You hate the fact I report those cops,cause I supply EVIDENCE,something you always failed to do and now we know why,Ballarat Police refuted every claim you've made.You're not even on their records,idiot.

And that's why I think you're obsesse3d with child-molesting,WHY?

Told you,I put money on it,you did fuck your dog on that breeder farm as a young teenage curious whore that you were,turned to God and tried transference,hoping it's all forgotten and forgiven

The only person you can't hide it from is yourself.That's why I keep reminding.And I have credibilty,something you lost in your battles with me,hehehehehe,I have trade,you're bankrupt.Who cares what you say and think.But involve me or those I love,I'll have you,anytime.

You've had your warning,hope they confiscate your computer,that was one of the reasons I'm going to do it.Forget hiding it you stupid bitch,every component has it's own signature.They can tell when you substituteThere's things the authorities can do,that even most crackers have no idea about,have a nice life creep.


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:'Billy Ruben' says 'he's' in hiding.
Should I post all the Ph. No's 'he' threatens me by?
Or just the numbers of those who first Blutoothed my phone,
and also boasted of having friends in the police that access
phone use details for them?

Well, if something were to happen to a real person who's
identity 'they' use, after 'Billy Ruben/Jason Cook' texted me
where he "is hiding from Occultists", I think authorities should
get straight onto 'them', rather than waste time harassing me,
'their' actual, intended victim.

Lets face it; the only reason 'they' have for sending me such
a message, would be to try to set me up for harm done to
some mentally ill person 'they' use as 'their' cover for the
self serving evils 'they' do.


What a load of shit!!!!.

No harm will come to your crazy little head,no matter how much you push.You're ridiculous and insane.I'd stick around to argue,but seeing as you spammed your own thread with off-topic,non-related bullshit,I shall leave again.

Oh,I support the fat redneck making and flying Swastika flags.No harm done at all...it's how I feel and what I see,when this flag flies proud.[/img]






thumbs up lmao lol! rolf popcorn
Billy Ruben wrote: rolf rolf rolf rolf

...Now that's a very interesting post about psychological transference.

If I remember correctly,I did a thread about you,where you admit you have child porn on on your computer and blamed three differing parties.

You admitted you have it...and blamed others.Now,how do your inconsistencies would look before a jury,Eh?

Not to good for you,you mad silly cow.Those scrubbers in gaol will absolutely rip you to pieces the very first night.Enjoy getting fist-anal babe,because if I prove you still got it,I'll be mercilous with you and condemn you to the lowest realms,where that decrepid soul of yours came from

Try Me,Suzanne Ryan of Ballarat/Wendouree...just fucking try me.

Filth peddler.


cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu cthulhu
http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1665-true-lilly-confesses-to-having-child-porn-on-her-pc
http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1802p15-billy-ruben-says-he-s-in-hiding-should-i-post-all-the-ph-no-s-he-threatens-me-by#29955
Billy Ruben wrote:You're filth Suzy Ryan.

Remember the sequence of threats I told you months ago,it's already started.

Your thread,The Lying Conspiracy,...rant roomed.

Next,back to the Mental Health Authorities with a proper prepared proposal.

Next,The Federal Police Of Australia.

Then,and the best of all...Interpol.

So keep pushing little Missy and I will enact my threats and have you good,where I want you,M'Kay?

There's a good girl,back to knowing exactly where you stand moron.One more flicker of shit from you,you're gone.

What you only wish,fantasize and beg God for,I'll pull off.I've been offered a very special rank amongst the satanist,it's tempting,but know how it corrupts.I'd only join to wipe the floor with arseholes like you.But the best of intentions with those kind of energies,would only consume me.

On bending knee bitch,beg,that my wisdom holds up...this time around.


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Post  sharky on Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:32 am




Hey Icke!!!!! yeah you..... noway ......who do you think you're bullshittin? some mental midget shit 4 brainz?.

Icke is a deluded and dangerous demagogue..........
The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. H. L. Mencken

He is David Icke New Age Neo Nazi Guru hatemongering, fearmongering liar.

He claims he is not antisemitic, then he goes on to lie and demonize the Jews and Israel.......who is he kidding besides himself? The useful idiots that hang on everyone of his words?
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/political-manipulation-mainmenu-72/42734-they-dare-not-speak-its-name-rothschild-zionism



David Icke Myth: Rothschild Zionism in its public expression is a political ideology based on a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine and a belief that the Jews are God's 'chosen race' with a God-given right to the 'promised land' of Israel (historically this is nonsense, as I show in my books)


The only thing he has shown in his books is he is an antisemitic gullible fool....... lmao
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFindex.html
MYTH
“The Jews have no claim to the land they call Israel.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFroots.html#1

A common misperception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, the Jews suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

The Jewish people base their claim to the Land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 2) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people; 3) the territory was captured in defensive wars and 4) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham.


David Icke Myth: They have sought to sell the 'Zionism-means-all-Jewish-people' lie so that they can condemn as 'anti-Semites' and 'racists' anyone who exposes the truth about Rothschild Zionism and its agents in government, banking, business, media, military etc.

Read this daveyboy:
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/Against_Zionists_not_Jews.htm

http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antizionism/

Zionism is the national self determination movement of the Jewish people. Zionism is the belief in a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people, in Israel. Zionism is the Jewish people's instantiation of the human right of self determination. 99% of Jews are supportive of the existance of the Jewish state - that makes them Zionists..............In summary
Almost all Jews (99%) are infact Zionists, but the definition Zionists (and infact almost all Jewish anti-Zionists) themselves use. If you use an antisemic defintion such as Zionism as Racist you can of course invent statistics as you please.
.

Hey davey, this is pure 100% unadulterated bullshit......that makes you a lying sack of shit.

David Icke Myth:The world's most extreme racists are, after all, the Rothschild Zionists, anyway. Israel is an apartheid state every bit as much as were apartheid South Africa and apartheid America.

The Facts

Comparison of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict with Apartheid South AfricaThese days it is becoming very popular to compare the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with apartheid South Africa prior to 1994. It is an odious comparison wreaked with many half-truths and clichés. Both situations are so different that when one examines the situation one can note major differences. The idea of using this comparison is to delegitimize Israel's right to exist within secure and recognized borders and to justify the Palestinian methods of terror in order to destroy Israel.


In apartheid South Africa prior to 1994 before the first democratic elections in South Africa 's history, there was this odious apartheid system. Its main purpose was to maintain white minority rule at all costs and to keep the black majority disenfranchised and without basic human rights. These blacks were a reservoir of cheap labour to operate the white economy and to ensure white prosperity at their expense. Blacks had suffered immense injustice under this system. White South African Government spending on black education and their general community welfare was minimal. The gap between the black situation then and slavery was not very large.

Social intercourse between whites and blacks in those days was a relationship between the white master and the black, underpaid servant. The situation for non-white people was intolerable and even cruel. It was against the law for Blacks to travel freely in the country of their birth except if they had a pass (dompas) from the white authorities. After 9.00 p.m., there was a curfew and blacks were forbidden in the streets after that dreaded hour in many towns. These people were not terrorists. They were not people who threatened the whites in any way. Denial of their basic human rights was commonplace. There was the dreaded Immorality Act, which prevented mixed marriages and sex beyond the colour bar. Those who contravened the law were imprisoned. There were separate public facilities for blacks and whites. Laws forbade blacks to eat in white restaurants. Separate transport facilities, which resulted in overcrowded conditions in buses and trains, were part of this evil, cruel system. It was common to see police officers abusing and ill treating blacks for not having their pass (identity or reference book) on their person when being searched. The police pushed them into the back of the police van, and drove them to the police station where they spent a night in the lock up cell. Usually their white employers bailed out these unfortunate persons when they produced a permit that they were in his employ legally. Blacks could not purchase property in white areas, as this was a contravention of the notorious Group Areas Act.

Anybody who opposed the apartheid system in those days – especially if he was black – was accused of being an agitator or communist. The police arrested him for 90 days without trial or recourse to a lawyer. This was increased later to 180 days detention and the police officer even had the power to keep a person imprisoned indefinitely without trial. These incidents occurred during the period of 1950 – 1990. Apartheid was at its zenith in those years. It was illegal to criticise the white government for its apartheid practices. There was limited criticism in those days by white opposition parties in parliament. However, the law controlled the limit of legal criticism. The abuse of prisoners for obtaining information was legal and encouraged. The police tortured the famous black leader, Steve Biko, to death when he was in prison for "anti-apartheid crimes" in 1977.

The majority of South African citizens was against apartheid and wanted to be part of a multi racial South Africa . The leaders of the liberation movements never spoke of destroying the white man and denying him rights in South Africa. Their fight was a justified fight for freedom and human rights as well as equality before the law.

If one were to contrast that with the situation in the Middle East, it is different. Israel 's Arab neighbours threatened her from the day of her establishment in 1948. There was never a desire to recognise Israel 's right to exist. What has this to do with South African style apartheid? Where is the comparison?

The blacks in their liberation struggle never targeted innocent people by suicide bombings or terror. There were sporadic incidents by some black extremists, but the mainstream liberation movements in South Africa went underground. Their leaders, who were living in exile, condemned this violence.

Perhaps, there may be a vague parallel of apartheid in the occupied territories since June 1967. The occupation is a complex problem that is the result of a war foisted onto Israel . Israel, being militarily superior, occupied territory in the Six Day War of June 1967 and made the fatal mistake of encouraging Jewish settlements there when it was obvious that there was no Arab partner who was willing to sign a peace treaty insuring the return of occupied territory as part of an overall peace agreement. The occupation and rule of the Palestinians is a tragic result of the wars that Israel fought for her survival/

However, had there been a willing partner on the Arab side who would come to terms with Israel's existence the seemingly "apartheid-like" situation would not have occurred. Israel never wished to conquer another people. This is contrary to the apartheid South African situation whereby the whites ruled and oppressed the blacks by force. They denied them their basic human rights. The intifida of 2000 resulted in a heavy spate of suicide violence against innocent Israelis, which resulted in heavy Israeli Army retaliation against armed Palestinian terrorists. The Palestinian terrorist groups had declared war on Israel and in a war; innocent people on both sides die and suffer.

The difference is that in South Africa both Whites and Blacks realized that their fate is dependent on one another. Both realised the importance of sitting down and negotiating a transitional period to end apartheid. Both sides were determined to rebuild the new democratic, multiracial South Africa . This feeling of mutual desire to end the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is lacking. The Palestinians have embarked on the road of terror and suicide bombings.

This is their chosen path. It differs from the path that the freedom fighters in South Africa chose. Here there is no desire to come to terms with Israel 's existence that was always a "thorn" in Palestinian flesh. Hamas and Islamic Jihad have made this perfectly clear to the world. Their manifesto is no example in building an alternative democratic Palestinian society in a state replacing Israel.

Is there not a similarity to Nazism in the Hamas manifesto? Many Palestinian observers in the UN Security council accuse Israel of genocide. Is the Hamas Manifesto not promoting genocide of the Jewish People? Compare this to the ideals of those who opposed and fought the cruel racist regime of White South Africa during those evil, apartheid years. Their fight was a fight to attain equality for all South Africans irrespective of their skin colour. This is not the case in the Israel-Palestinian dispute. Here there is no desire in Palestinian street, as represented by Hamas and company, to come to terms with Israel's existence – let alone negotiate a peace treaty, which would eventually lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel . Genocide is more part of the lexicon of the Palestinian terrorist groups than in Israel . Perhaps from this point of view, there is a similarity between the Palestinians and the dominating whites of apartheid South Africa . Both peoples oppressed their citizens and denied them basic human rights. Both regimes were corrupt and were involved in feathering their own nests.

The similarity of apartheid South Africa to the Palestinian Authority, including their methods of torture of opponents, makes this comparison closer to the truth.
Where are human rights in the Arab countries? Where are woman's rights in Islamic Society? In Saudi Arabia , women are treated like chattels and do not even have the franchise. Why are the human rights organizations not taking any view on that?

Another very big difference between apartheid South Africa and Israel is the fact that there are no separate facilities for Jews and Arabs. Arab Israelis have equal rights and have the right to vote. There is no law preventing social mixing between the two peoples nor are there separate universities for Arabs and Israelis in Israel.

The comparison between Israel and apartheid South Africa shows total ignorance of the situation in both countries. After having been born and educated in apartheid South Africa and having opposed apartheid and racism all my life, I have come to realize how false and stupid this comparison really is. Much still remains to be done in the human rights area for Arab Israelis. There is some social descrimination in the job market and the situation is not as good as it could be. However, it is very far from the apartheid system of White South Africa where draconian laws were well set in place to separate blacks from whites


David Icke Myth: And by that I don't only mean the evil that is inflicted upon the Palestinian people minute-by-minute, day-by-day, but also the extraordinarily racist divisions within Jewish society with the black Jews from Ethiopia, for example, treated as little more than vermin
.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html

The Facts
In early 1991, Eritrean and Tigrean rebels began a concerted attack on Mengistu forces, meeting with surprising success for the first time since the civil war began in 1975. With the rebel armies advancing each day, Colonel Mengistu Haile Mariam fled his country in early May. Rebels claimed control of the capital Addis Ababa shortly thereafter, and the situation of the Beta Israel took top priority in Israel. The Likud government of Yitzhak Shamir authorized a special permit for the Israeli airline, El Al, to fly on the Jewish Sabbath. On Friday, May 24, and continuing non-stop for 36 hours, a total of 34 El Al jumbo jets and Hercules C-130s—seats removed to accommodate the maximum number of Ethiopians—began a new chapter in the struggle for the freedom of Ethiopian Jewry.

Operation Solomon, named for the king from whom one of the theories suggest that the Beta Israel draw their lineage, ended almost as quickly as it began. Timing was crucial, since any delay by Israel could have allowed the rebels to hold the Jews as bargaining chips with Israel or the United States. A total of 14,324 Ethiopian Jews were rescued and resettled in Israel, a modern exodus of the grandest design. Operation Solomon rescued nearly double the number of Jews as were saved during Operation Moses and Joshua, and it did so in a mere fraction of the time.

More than 36,000 Ethiopian Jews now live in Israel and despite both economic and social hardships, their community has an integral part in Israeli society. In 1999, Avraham Yitzhak became the first Ethiopian immigrant to earn an MD degree from an Israeli medical school. In 2011, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs appointed Rachamim Elazar as Israel's Ambassador to Ethiopia, making him the first Israeli of Ethiopian descent to ever serve as an ambassador for the State of Israel. There are still many problems within the Ethiopian community in Israel - poverty, lack of education, etc - but large strides are being made every day.......................As early as the 16th century, Egypt's Chief Rabbi David ben Solomon ibn Avi Zimra (Radbaz) declared that in Halachic (Jewish legal) issues, the Beta Israel were indeed Jews. In 1855, Daniel ben Hamdya, a member of the Beta Israel, was the first Ethiopian Jew to visit Israel, meeting with a council of rabbis in Jerusalem concerning the authenticity of the Beta Israel. By 1864, almost all leading Jewish authorities, most notably Rabbi Azriel Hildsheimer of Eisenstadt, Germany, accepted the Beta Israel as true Jews. In 1908 the chief rabbis of forty-five countries had heeded Rabbi Hildsheimer's call and officially recognized the Beta Israel as fellow Jews.

In reaffirming the Radbaz's position centuries before, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, Israel's Chief Sephardic Rabbi, stated in 1972, “I have come to the conclusion that Falashas are Jews who must be saved from absorption and assimilation. We are obliged to speed up their immigration to Israel and educate them in the spirit of the holy Torah, making them partners in the building of the Holy Land.”

In 1975, Ashkenazic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren wrote to the Beta Israel telling them, “You are our brothers, you are our blood and our flesh. You are true Jews.” Later that same year the Israeli Interministerial Commission officially recognized the Beta Israel as Jews under Israel's Law of Return, a law designed to aid in Jewish immigration to Israel. The Beta Israel were ready to come home.

Indeed, the Beta Israel were strictly observant in pre-Talmudic Jewish traditions. The women went to the mikvah, or ritual bath, just as observant Jewish women do to this day, and they continue to carry out ancient festivals, such as Seged, that have been passed down through the generations of Beta Israel. The Kesim, or religious leaders, are as widely revered and respected as the great rabbis in each community, passing the Jewish customs through storytelling and maintaining the few Jewish books and Torahs some communities were fortunate enough to have written in the liturgical language of Ge'ez.


Jewish Apathy . . .and its Defeat
The struggle to free the Beta Israel was not fought solely against the Ethiopian government. Much like some timid Jewish leaders during the Holocaust, some recent Jews sought to prevent a shanda fur de goyim (an embarrassment in front of the non-Jews) by not stirring up waves over Ethiopian Jewry.

The history of the Beta Israel's rescue is at times open to debate regarding the heroes of the Ethiopian Jewry movement. As with many struggles to free oppressed Jewry around the world, many advocated and vocalized opposition to those responsible for the lack of action on their behalf. Others, however, argued for a more quiet diplomacy, void of the public demonstrations and arrests that marked the struggle for Soviet Jewry.

Though over 8,000 Beta Israel managed to flee to Israel during his tenure, it was an Israeli official in charge of the Ethiopian Jews' absorption who may best symbolize the insensitivity that an extreme minority of people once held. Yehuda Dominitz who served as Director General of the Jewish Agency's Department of Immigration and Absorption, declared in 1980 that, “[taking] a Falasha (sic) out of his village, it's like taking a fish out of water...I'm not in favor of bringing them [to Israel].” Dominitz also refused to allow his agency to rent buses so Ethiopian Jews in Israel could travel to Jerusalem to observe their ancient holiday of Seged (Dominitz eventually relented, but had the buses take the Beta Israel to Haifa instead of Jerusalem).

Malkah Raymist, a writer for the World Zionist Organization, wrote in 1956 in The Jewish Horizon (of the Hapoel Hamizrachi of America Movement) that, “the reasons [for not bringing Ethiopian Jews to Israel] are simple and weighty. On one hand, they are well off where they are, while their development and mental outlook is that of children; they could fall an easy prey of exploitation, if brought here without any preparation. On the other hand, being a backward element, they would be and it would take several years before they could be educated towards a minimum of progressive thinking.”

In an American Association for Ethiopian Jews (AAEJ) press release, the AAEJ quoted its founder, Dr. Graenum Berger, as criticizing those who sought any delay in the rescue of the Beta Israel. Berger declared, “Not when Jews are dying...these revelations show once again that the policy of influencing factions of the government of Israel always have been against the immigration of the Ethiopian Jews. And, the same people who controlled their immigration then are controlling it now. These are the same people who gave instructions to the Israeli Embassy in Ethiopia (1956-1973) not to issue immigration visas to any Jew from Ethiopia.”

Berger himself came under criticism for his outspoken remarks concerning the Israeli efforts to rescue the Beta Israel, showing that nobody was immune from the rhetoric surrounding the issue.



As the facts clearly show: David Icke is an ignorant, lying, fearmongering, hatemongering antisemitic moron............a lying sack of shit.............


MYTH
“Israel is pursuing a policy of genocide toward the Palestinians that is comparable to the Nazis’ treatment of the Jews.” top


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html#9

FACT
This is perhaps the most odious claim made by Israel’s detractors. The Nazis’ objective was the systematic extermination of every Jew in Europe. Israel is seeking peace with its Palestinian neighbors. More than one million Arabs live as free and equal citizens in Israel. Of the Palestinians in the territories, 98 percent live under the civil administration of the Palestinian Authority. Israeli policies are designed to protect Israeli citizens—Jews and non-Jews—from the incessant campaign of terror. There has never been a plan to persecute, exterminate, or expel the Palestinian people.

In response to one such comparison, by a poet who referred to the “Zionist SS,” The New Republic’s literary editor Leon Wieseltier observed:

The view that Zionism is Nazism—there is no other way to understand the phrase “Zionist SS”—is not different in kind from the view that the moon is cheese. It is not only spectacularly wrong, it is also spectacularly unintelligent. I will not offend myself (that would be self-hate speech!) by patiently explaining why the State of Israel is unlike the Third Reich, except to say that nothing that has befallen the Palestinians under Israel’s control may responsibly be compared to what befell the Jews under Germany’s control, and that a considerable number of the people who have toiled diligently to find peace and justice for the Palestinians, and a solution to this savage conflict, have been Israeli, some of them even Israeli prime ministers. There is no support for the Palestinian cause this side of decency that can justify the locution “Zionist SS.” 41

The absurdity of the charge is also clear from the demography of the disputed territories. While detractors make outrageous claims about Israel committing genocide or ethnic cleansing, the Palestinian population has continued to grow exponentially. In Gaza, for example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to 1,657,155 in 2011, an increase of 127 percent. The growth rate was 3.2 percent, one of the highest in the world. The total Palestinian population in all the disputed territories (they include Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem) was 1,006,000 in 1950, 1,094,000 in 1970, and grew to 3,736,210 in 2011. 42


MYTH
“Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to the treatment of blacks in apartheid South Africa.” top

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html#8

FACT
Even before the State of Israel was established, Jewish leaders consciously sought to avoid the situation that prevailed in South Africa. As David Ben-Gurion told Palestinian nationalist Musa Alami in 1934:

We do not want to create a situation like that which exists in South Africa, where the whites are the owners and rulers, and the blacks are the workers. If we do not do all kinds of work, easy and hard, skilled and unskilled, if we become merely landlords, then this will not be our homeland. 36

Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens who enjoy equal rights and are represented in all the branches of government. Arabs are represented in the Knesset, and have served in the Cabinet, high-level foreign ministry posts (e.g., Ambassador to Finland) and on the Supreme Court.

Under apartheid, skin color determined every aspect of your life from birth until death. Black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they formed the overwhelming majority of the population. Laws dictated where they could live, work, go to school and travel. And, in South Africa, the government killed blacks who protested against its policies. By contrast, Israel allows freedom of movement, assembly and speech. Some of the government’s harshest critics are Israeli Arabs who are members of the Knesset.


“The difference between the current Israeli situation and apartheid South Africa is emphasized at a very human level: Jewish and Arab babies are born in the same delivery room, with the same facilities, attended by the same doctors and nurses, with the mothers recovering in adjoining beds in a ward. Two years ago I had major surgery in a Jerusalem hospital: the surgeon was Jewish, the anaesthetist was Arab, the doctors and nurses who looked after me were Jews and Arabs. Jews and Arabs share meals in restaurants and travel on the same trains, buses and taxis, and visit each other’s homes.

Could any of this possibly have happened under apartheid? Of course not.”

— Benjamin Pogrund 37


The situation of Palestinians in the territories is different. The security requirements of the nation, and a violent insurrection in the territories, forced Israel to impose restrictions on Arab residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip that are not necessary inside Israel’s pre-1967 borders. Israeli policy is not based on race, but is a result of Palestinian animosity. Palestinians in the territories dispute Israel’s right to exist, whereas blacks did not seek the destruction of South Africa, only the apartheid regime.

If Israel were to give Palestinians full citizenship, it would mean the territories had been annexed. No Israeli government has been prepared to take that step. Instead, through negotiations, Israel agreed to give the Palestinians increasing authority over their own affairs. It is likely that a final settlement will allow most Palestinians to become citizens of their own state. The principal impediment to Palestinian independence is not Israeli policy, it is the unwillingness of the Palestinian leadership to give up terrorism and agree to live in peace beside Israel.

Despite all their criticism, when asked what governments they admire most, more than 80 percent of Palestinians consistently said Israel because they can see up close the thriving democracy in Israel, and the rights the Arab citizens enjoy there. By contrast, Palestinians place Arab regimes, including their own Palestinian Authority, at the bottom. 38


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFrights.html

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David Icke Debunked
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[justify]This is 2.5 hour film from Chris White takes a very close look at
David Icke’s history and beliefs. It reveals the true sources of David
Icke’s theories which are often shocking , and should be very
concerning for a genuine seeker of truth. This is a well rounded
expose which is done respectfully, while still attempting to get the
average truther to reevaluate what they really know about the
“endgame” of the Illuminati.


A few of the things covered are:

His connections to Alice Bailey
His channeling several of Bailey’s specific “Ascended Masters” and
them being his lifelong guides.
The “Solar Logos” and “Galactic Logos”
The Seven Ray theory
The source of his galaxy-god to sun-god spiritual evolution is Bailey
The ghost of Carl Sagan
He supports “elite” worship of the sun
His new moon theory is retelling of his earlier crazy version
His moon theory is from Alice Bailey
The “Earth Spirit” or Gaia is from Alice Bailey
His support of Earth Spirit led Genocide
Atlantis and Lemuria
Hitler similarities include, Atlantis, spiritual evolution, arayans,
- Show quoted text -
the moon, hollow earth, Lemuria, contacting ascended masters, taking
drugs to increase the connection, and more.
Icke denounces Bailey and Lucius trust..and implications for him

Chapter 2
Brian Desborough, who is this guy?
Desborough’s crazy unbelievable story
Desborough is the source for a huge amount of material including the reptilians
Desborough introduces Arizona Wilder to Icke
Arizona “made to learn”
Ivan Fraser connection
Desborough writes “Alice in Wonderland”
Arizona’s “Old Ones” are really behind the NWO
Credo Mutwa
Reptilians on Youtube
Shapshifting according to Svali
Desborough’s new Jesus
Babylon supplied by Desborough
Debunking Babylon
David talks to “Jesus”
David has very conflicting views about the crucifixion
Davids claim to be “The Son of God” (actually his claim was that he IS
the second coming of Christ)
Debunking the Zeitgeist version of Jesus
Quick History
Queen of Heaven
Mother and child statues, Jesus and Mary
Halos
Dagon fish hat (pope)
Michael Talbot
The Holographic Universe
Holonomic Brain Theory
Sai Baba
stigmata
The hypnotist that made the man see through his daughter.

Chapter 3
“The Guys.”
What it is
How he does it
Terrence Mckenna’s advice
Same thing with the 2012 history
Photon Belt
Demons in anthropology
Sumer
Free will
Inspecting David’s testimony for clues
David preaches free will possession
Sleep Paralysis
David loses it in front of a painting
David’s infamous trip to Peru
History of that area of Peru
Ley Lines
Brazil with Ayahuasca
DMT the spirit molecule
The big question about the elves?
We are sitting ducks for the NWO
The REAL plan of the Illuminati.
Spiritual evolution
Promised utopia
ONLY out of the ashes
“Preparations until 2025”
“ Emphasis should be laid on the evolution of humanity.” – Alice Bailey
A deadly utopia for those who wont “evolve”
The paradox solution = The X factor
Alien invasion? intervention?
Religion must die
Saved from the war
The actual plan.
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http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/04/david-icke-is-neo-nazi-part-three-my.html

David Icke is a Neo-Nazi (Part Three): My Shadow, or the "Turd in the Punch Bowl"
I have felt, since first hearing of Mr. Icke, that he was put out there to discredit me specifically. His conspiracist sci-fi confabulations, or "research," tracks my own themes (mind control, political assassinations, fascist globalism, etc.) in a grossly distorted form.

He boosted my writing on the Simpson case whole, for instance, and mixed it up, defiled my research, with "Lizard Aliens." He's a repulsive parody of myself ...

I've attempted to read the capricious, wrong-headed "research" of David "Jesus" Icke, and found it an amateurish omelot of used conspiracy theories concocted by the John Birch Society and other far-right groups to discredit legitimate research on fascism, which is inherently conspiratorial. Most people, dumbed down by "mainstream" media, can't tell the difference, and Icke takes advantage of that fact to peddle stupid, far-right conspiracy theories and "alien" invasions.

Icke - who took up conspiracy writing, c. 1990 - about the time the CIA silenced me with constant harassment, torture and death threats - is tailor-made to cast a pall on my own field, my own work, and he's been doing it for years. - AC

" ... The death of Princess Diana? A ritual sacrifice of a moon goddess who had criticized her husband's reptilian royal family (443). ... "

GREENS TO PROTEST DAVID ICKE AT HART HOUSE THEATRE, OCT 6 (fwd)

The Robot's Rebellion is a conspiracy theory which claims a group of aliens and well-connected people, called the 'Illuminati', are manipulating and controlling world events with a view to establishing global domination.

One of Icke's main sources is a notorious document called the `Protocols of the Elders of Zion', which he renames `the Illuminati Protocols'. It states that Jews are trying to take over the world, and was used by the Nazis to justify the genocide of 6 million people. The Waffen SS used to carry copies in their knapsacks.

By using this document Icke denies the word of those historians who have demonstrated, beyond doubt, that the Protocols are a forgery. He also gives credence to those groups who still use the Protocols to justify their anti-Semitism. [end quote]

David Icke did extensive damage to the credibility of the Greens with his anti-Semitic writings and claims to be a son of god. His ongoing attempts to gain credibility for himself from his prior association with our party makes the damage all the more egregious and ongoing.

http://list.digital-copyright.ca/pipermail/action-forum/1999-October/000636.html
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"WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD ~ Articles by David Icke WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD? by David Icke Official history is merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened. ... "
www.scribd.com/doc/63663/David-Icke-Was-Hitler-A-Rothschild+david+icke+is+a+nazi&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:hRfulkl6a6UJ:www.scribd.com/doc/63663/David-Icke-Was-Hitler-A-Rothschild+david+icke+is+a+nazi&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us
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Evening Standard (London)
Friday, 26 May, 1995,

The Dark Side of David Icke

He may seem like a harmless eccentric, but, says MARK HONIGSBAUM, some of the views put forward by self-styled guru David Icke, currently lecturing round Britain, are dangerously popular with anti-Semites and neo-Nazis.

It has become fashionable, even among adherents of the New Age, to dismiss David Icke as a crank. For a long time now the former Green Party spokesman and self-styled "Son of God" has been collecting fringe beliefs and theories like other people collect new shoes. UFOs, CIA "mind control", world apocalypse - you name it, David Icke has tried it.

But judging by the response to Icke's current lecture tour of Britain, he is no longer quite the figure of fun he used to be.

At a recent meeting in Glastonbury, for instance, more than 100 people paid 5 pounds each to hear his views. During the lecture, David Taylor, a national spokesman for the Green Party, repeatedly heckled Icke about his use of the notorious anti-Semitic forgery, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Meanwhile, the Jewish Chronicle has been pressing Icke's Bath-based publisher, Gateway, to reveal the truth about the manuscript of his latest book, said to contain offensive revisionary passages about the Holocaust.

Now uncanny parallels are emerging between Icke's thoughts - if that
is not too grand a term for his mishmash of conspiracy theories and
New Age - and the writings of senior figures in the armed militia
movement in America. ...

http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/british/combat-18/press/evening-standard.052695
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David Icke, the Reptilian Infiltration, and the Limits of Science Fiction
By James Trimarco
2 April 2007

... The author goes on to postulate a race of reptilians that has controlled human society from its very beginning. These beings, which Icke calls by the Sumerian[3] word "Anunnaki," infiltrate human society through interbreeding with humans and placing their crossbred offspring into roles of power in human society. The evidence he offers to support this claim, as the late conspiracy expert Bill Keith has pointed out, is hardly of academic quality. The evidence ranges from crackpot etymology (vampires are reptilians because "Dracula" sounds like "Draco" and so on) to references to books that have been repeatedly debunked by scientific experts. Keith characterizes Icke's scholarly methodology as "Believe every goddamn weird thing anybody, anywhere ever said."

The poor quality of Icke's scholarship should be obvious to any reader with a middle-school education, and yet his work resonates with many people. A closer investigation into Icke's vision of Anunnaki infiltration helps to explain the appeal his writings have for his small but loyal group of followers. For Icke, the story of human enslavement by reptilian forces begins about 450,000 years ago. Paraphrasing a translation of a Sumerian tablet by the controversial Orientalist Alexander Sitchin, Icke describes the arrival of the Anunnaki in Africa for the purpose of mining gold. At first, the Anunnaki roped their own working classes into laboring in these mines, but later they developed humanity as a slave race through genetic engineering (6). While the original purpose of humanity's creation involved the exploitation of human labor, Icke argues that the Anunnaki have other, darker uses for human beings. Throughout The Biggest Secret, Icke points to the bloodiest and most difficult chapters in human history and blames each one on Anunnaki scheming. Human sacrifice? Demanded by reptilian overlords (38). British colonialism? Designed to wipe out indigenous knowledge and replace it with propaganda and mind-control (129).

The death of Princess Diana? A ritual sacrifice of a moon goddess who had criticized her husband's reptilian royal family (443). ...

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2007/20070402/trimarco-icke-a.shtml
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Closing Comments: Don't Drink the Punch.

Do my comments and sources constitute an "ad hominem" attack? - yep-yep. I have no problem with calling people vile names so long as they are backed by real facts, not misbegotten impressions of the sort "AdamS," who opened this discussion, brought to me. If the shoe fits ...

Since part one, "AdamS" has commented that my response is largely "guilt by association" - but anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial are not guilt by association. Neither is publishing in Neo-Nazi publications, something I'd never do in five million years. Spotlight? Exposure? That makes him one of them, not tangentially "associated" but in the Nazi camp. Only a rank amateur or "fellow traveller" would accuse me of "ad hominem" and "guilt by association" here. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Lizards from the fourth-dimension? How stupid does it have to get before his readers question this crap? What's next? The Protocols of Satanic, Jewish Gay Clowns from the Dog Star?

I'm an anti-nazi who exposes the Holocaust. My Birchite "shadow" is a neo-nazi who denies it. There is no common ground here, and anyone who calls Icke - as a publisher in Santa Barbara once did - "the British Alex Constantine," is a hopeless nutter. I once heard a 9/11 researcher interviewed on NPR refer to Icke as a "turd in the punchbowl." Drink at your own discretion, but know what you're swallowing.
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