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Post  Ciggy on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:00 am

Shut the hell up about maseratis.
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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:05 am

“But here's some advice, boy.

Don't put your trust in revolutions.

They always come around again.

That's why they're called revolutions.”


Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

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Post  Billy Ruben on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:27 am

true lilly wrote:“But here's some advice, boy.

Don't put your trust in revolutions.

They always come around again.

That's why they're called revolutions.”


Terry Pratchett, Night Watch


Bet Terry Pratchett,did'nt say this to a coloured,swarthy type male...No,he was interviewed in a studio,safe with Anglo-Ambience.
Not on the streets of LA or Soweto.Very insulting



...ermmmm,wrong interview,ah,shitbag,that's right,Burt Newton,2:12...for Burts' very lucky escape... cthulhu




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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:03 am

“Sometimes the truth is arrived at
by adding all the little lies together
and deducting them

from the totality of what is known.”

Terry Pratchett, Going Postal
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Post  Billy Ruben on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:08 am

true lilly wrote:“Sometimes the truth is arrived at
by adding all the little lies together
and deducting them

from the totality of what is known.”

Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

Well fuck me,the first thing he said that I have to reluctantly agree with.That Aunt Tiswas thread that was removed,worked exactly like that.Usually Sams family ignores the truth,to bland for their palate,so what you do,invent 10 tonne of shit for them to sort out...and that's what I did,with great consequences for all.Fuck 'em.Good point...


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Post  true lilly on Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:58 am



Lost papers spark fears for Diggers in Afghanistan
Dylan Welch
The security of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan has been compromised
by the disappearance of secret documents and encryption equipment
critical to the war.


Police cop hiding over technology

Melissa Fyfe
Victoria Police's ability to enforce the law is being curtailed
by 'systemic and deeply ingrained' problems with technology
and handling sensitive information
, watchdog finds in scathing report.
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Post  true lilly on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:36 am

true lilly wrote:

Lost papers spark fears for Diggers in Afghanistan
Dylan Welch
The security of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan has been compromised
by the disappearance of secret documents and encryption equipment
critical to the war.


Police cop hiding over technology

Melissa Fyfe
Victoria Police's ability to enforce the law is being curtailed
by 'systemic and deeply ingrained' problems with technology
and handling sensitive information
, watchdog finds in scathing report.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16162-David-Icke-in-Australia-2011
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Post  true lilly on Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:32 pm

tintin" aka Cruise wrote:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3206



Curse of Cruise

In 1988 IRAN FLIGHT 655 was shot down on 3 JULY,

on the 26th birthday of TOM CRUISE.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3205

YES, "tintin" posted as "Cruise"
BEFORE he FLEW OUT of MELBOURNE,
TO SYDNEY,
under the passport of "Aarnout van der Plooge".
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Post  true lilly on Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:52 pm

Flying? Call 13 13 13
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
true lilly wrote:
tintin" aka Cruise wrote:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3206



Curse of Cruise

In 1988 IRAN FLIGHT 655 was shot down on 3 JULY,

on the 26th birthday of TOM CRUISE.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3205

YES, "tintin" posted as "Cruise"
BEFORE he FLEW OUT of MELBOURNE,
TO SYDNEY,
under the passport of "Aarnout van der Plooge".
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
Flying? Call 13 13 13
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Post  true lilly on Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:48 pm

AUNT TISWAS wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Settle down Lulzy. No one gives a fuck about Shitmullet.

Excuse
me Ciggy, I give more than a damn about Mr David Icke for he is the
best thing on the Internet, and how handsome he looks in that Wembley
Arena 2012 poster. OH True Lilly, you are on my IGNORE list.
So, NO EVIDENCE FROM "YOU" EITHER...
despite "YOUR" (pretence at) ICKE WORSHIP

John Drake wrote:
Hagbard Celine wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Do you understand anything at all? Is 2 + 2 too much for you to comprehend here?

Is the fact that you actually need me too much for you to comprehend? Shocked
Yes, you do! You wouldn't last 5 minutes on this forum without me! The
whole basis of your presence here is to be top of the Seangate expert
heap, and you couldn't do that without somebody like me who is not to
throw you into relief! So quit the pretence because you're not fooling
anyone! Evil or Very Mad Just say thank you to me for giving you your superior status!

Ciggy was doing fine telling truths about Icke and Daisy well before you put yout 2 pence in.

You cant blame people for taking the piss Ben as many people have been telling you this for years.
Nah sorry, telling 'some truth' in order hide deeper evils, is deeply evil,
and that's what 'those names' have always done.



...and so, WHO WERE THE IDIOTS ON 'THEIR" SIDE,
WHO FELL FOR THE IDEA that
SENDING "tintin" INTO MY HOME for 3 Weeks,
would somehow work for "THEM"?

Same IDIOTS who believe "Intelligence" supplied by MORONS?

John Drake wrote:
Hagbard Celine wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Do you understand anything at all? Is 2 + 2 too much for you to comprehend here?

Is the fact that you actually need me too much for you to comprehend? Shocked
Yes, you do! You wouldn't last 5 minutes on this forum without me! The
whole basis of your presence here is to be top of the Seangate expert
heap, and you couldn't do that without somebody like me who is not to
throw you into relief! So quit the pretence because you're not fooling
anyone! Evil or Very Mad Just say thank you to me for giving you your superior status!

Ciggy was doing fine telling truths about Icke and Daisy well before you put yout 2 pence in.

You cant blame people for taking the piss Ben as many people have been telling you this for years.
Nah sorry, telling 'some truth' in order hide deeper evils, is deeply evil,
and that's what 'those names' have always done.



David Icke Official Forums="TERRORIST SITE"?


Lost papers spark fears for Diggers in Afghanistan
Dylan Welch
The security of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan has been compromised
by the disappearance of secret documents and encryption equipment
critical to the war.


Police cop hiding over technology

Melissa Fyfe
Victoria Police's ability to enforce the law is being curtailed
by 'systemic and deeply ingrained' problems with technology
and handling sensitive information
, watchdog finds in scathing report.


Flying? Call 13 13 13

"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
true lilly wrote:
tintin" aka Cruise wrote:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3206



Curse of Cruise

In 1988 IRAN FLIGHT 655 was shot down on 3 JULY,

on the 26th birthday of TOM CRUISE.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3205

YES, "tintin" posted as "Cruise"
BEFORE he FLEW OUT of MELBOURNE,
TO SYDNEY,
under the passport of "Aarnout van der Plooge".
"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.
Flying? Call 13 13 13
Psalms 105

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=105&v=1&t=KJV#1

1
GIVE thanks to Jehovah, call upon his name,
Make known among the peoples his dealings.

2
Sing to him, make melody to him,
Concern yourselves with all his wonderful works.

3
Make YOUR boast in his holy name.
Let the heart of those seeking Jehovah rejoice.

4
Search for Jehovah and his strength.
Seek his face constantly.

5
Remember his wonderful works that he has performed,
His miracles and the judicial decisions of his mouth,

6
O YOU seed of Abraham his servant,
YOU sons of Jacob, his chosen ones.

7
He is Jehovah our God.
His judicial decisions are in all the earth.

8
He has remembered his covenant even to time indefinite,
The word that he commanded, to a thousand generations,

9
Which [covenant] he concluded with Abraham,
And his sworn statement to Isaac,

10
And which [statement] he kept standing as a regulation even to Jacob,
As an indefinitely lasting covenant even to Israel,

11
Saying: “To you I shall give the land of Ca´naan
As the allotment of YOUR inheritance.”

12
[This was] when they happened to be few in number,
Yes, very few, and alien residents in it.

13
And they kept walking about from nation to nation,
From one kingdom to another people.

14
He did not allow any human to defraud them,
But on their account he reproved kings,

15
[Saying:] “Do not YOU men touch my anointed ones,
And to my prophets do nothing bad.”

16
And he proceeded to call for a famine upon the land;
He broke every rod around which ring-shaped loaves were suspended.

17
He sent ahead of them a man
Who was sold to be a slave, Joseph.

18
With fetters they afflicted his feet,
Into irons his soul came;

19
Until the time that his word came,
The saying of Jehovah itself refined him.

20
The king sent that he might release him,
The ruler of the peoples, that he might let him loose.

21
He set him as master to his household
And as ruler over all his property,

22
To bind his princes agreeably to his soul
And that he might teach wisdom to even his elderly men.

23
And Israel proceeded to come into
Mitsrayim,
And Jacob himself resided as an alien in the land of Ham.

24
And he kept making his people very fruitful,
And gradually made them mightier than their adversaries.

25
He let their heart change to hate his people,
To behave cunningly against his servants.

26
He sent Moses his servant,
Aaron whom he had chosen.

27
They set among them the matters of his signs,
And the miracles in the land of Ham.

28
He sent darkness and so made it dark;
And they did not rebel against his words.

29
He changed their waters into blood,
And proceeded to put their fish to death.

30
Their land swarmed with frogs,
In the interior rooms of their kings.

31
He said that the gadflies should come in,
Gnats in all their territories.

32
He made their downpours hail,
A flaming fire on their land.

33
And he proceeded to strike their vines and their fig trees
And to break the trees of their territory.

34
He said that the locusts should come in,
And a species of locust, even without number.

35
And they went eating all the vegetation in their land;
They also went eating the fruitage of their ground.

36
And he proceeded to strike down every firstborn in their land,
The beginning of all their generative power.

37
And he began to bring them out with silver and gold;
And among his tribes there was no one stumbling along.

38
Mitsrayim
rejoiced when they went out,
For the dread of them had fallen upon them.

39
He spread out a cloud for a screen,
And fire to give light by night.

40
They asked, and he proceeded to bring quails,
And with bread from heaven he kept satisfying them.

41
He opened a rock, and waters began to flow out;
These went through the waterless regions as a river.

42
For he remembered his holy word with Abraham his servant.

43
So he brought out his people with exultation,
His chosen ones even with a joyful cry.

44
And gradually he gave them the lands of the nations,
And they kept taking possession of the product of the hard work of national groups,

45
To the end that they might keep his regulations
And observe his own laws.
Praise Jah, YOU people!
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Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:38 pm

spam your bullshit all you like,when weak little Sod threatened to ban you,but he seen it serve a purpose,pissing me off is better than having a good forum to read,shitbag of a woman...HA!You stand for nothing Suzy,nor do you have anything to say worth reading ro listening too.

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Post  true lilly on Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:34 pm

Oh, notice also, that "THE MESSAGE" "tintin/Cruise"
SHOVES DOWN THE WORLD'S THROAT, IS THE LIE,
that "we can't escape 'the matrix' 'they(='his mob') set up",
that "they=his mob" "can and do kill whomever, whenever",
"they=his mob" decide to kill?

Notice THE VERY BEST NEWS Behind The News, vanished from
"tintin's" thread, when 'they=tintin & his mob' drove me out?

And NOTICE the 'names' that peddle the SAME LIES HERE,
as Icke/tintin/that mob, get stupidly, violently angry and
attack me all the more when I do post The Very Best News Ever?

Stupidly, because by doing so, 'they' highlight why 'they' also
mock the Warnings I post against Rejecting The Truth of The Good News.

So, while "tintin" IS INSANELY going hell for leather to try to
"KILL OFF ALL HOPE" on his thread, I'll again remind folk, that we have,
BETTER THAN HOPE, WE HAVE THE FAITHFUL PROMISES of
THE CREATOR of LIFE, WHO we can and SHOULD put our Trust in.

true lilly wrote:
Sep 25, 2009

Posted on Sep 25, 2009 | 1 comment


Resilient Spirits: 15 Miraculous Tales of Survival

It is truly amazing what the human body can achieve when pinned against
life or death situations.
Many survivors claim it to be an out-of-body experience – when survival
instincts kick in and the brain shuts down. Below is a list of
miraculous tales of survival that illustrate the resiliency of the human spirit.


Aron Ralston



Aron Ralston was hiking in the canyons
of Utah when an 800-pound boulder fell on his arm and left him for dead.
Pinned and bleeding for five days, he chose to cut off his own arm as
his only chance of survival. Leveraging the boulder to snap his bone, he
then used a pocketknife to cutaway the surrounding tissue and tendons
and managed to rappel down a 65-foot cliff to stagger to his rescue.


Team Endurance



In 1914, Sir Ernest Shackleton assembled a crew for an Antarctic expedition on his ship, Endurance.
With no guarantee of return, but certain glory if they managed, their
tale began as the ship crashed into an ice pack. Stranded in an
unforgiving land and caring only for survival, the crew walked thousands
of miles, floated on icebergs, ate seal blubber and came out battered
but alive an astonishing two years later.


Joe Simpson

(source)
Joe Simpson and Simon Yates attempted to scale the Siula Grande
in the Peruvian Andes. In the midst of a blizzard, Simpson fell and
broke his leg leaving it to Yates to get the duo down to safety. Yates
lowered them bit-by-bit until their anchor slipped and left them
dangling precariously. After a silent hour of deliberation, Yates
presumed Simpson to be dead and cut his rope. Simpson fell onto an ice
brige below where despite massive injury, dehydration and hypothermia,
he managed to crawl five miles over the course of three days where he
was reunited with Yates at base camp.


Alexander Selkirk

(source)
In 1704, Alexander Selkirk caused some
trouble on his expedition ship and was left to die on an uninhabited
island in the South Pacific. His deserters left him with only a musket,
gunpowder, carpenter’s tools, a knife, a Bible and the clothes on his
back. In total solitude, Alexander managed to survive on the island for
four years and four months before he was eventually discovered and
rescued by a British ship in 1709.


Douglas Mawson

(source)
A trio of explorers set out from their
base camp to explore the Antarctic; one teammate fell through an
invisible ice crevasse taking all supplies along with him, another soon
perished due to weakness leaving Douglas Mawson as the sole survivor.
Surviving on the meat from his dog, he too fell into a crevasse but was
miraculously saved when his sled caught and left him suspended in
safety. Days later, he found his way back to camp where his condition
caused his team to ask, “My God, which one are you?”


Juliane Koepcke

(source)
Flight 508 was struck by lightning above
a Peruvian rainforest and 17-year-old Juliane Koepcke was the only
survivor. Still strapped in her seat, she was ejected from the plane and
landed two miles from the wreckage. Upon returning to consciousness,
she had a broken collarbone and was blind in one eye but had the wits to
know “where there’s water there’s people.” She walked along the river
for nine days until she found a cabin where she treated her
worm-infested wounds and awaited the owner.


Uruguayan Rugby Team

(source)
A Uruguayan rugby team was put to the
test when their plane flying over the Andes crashed into the peaks. Of
the 45 people on board, only 16 survived the initial crash and the
avalanche that followed on day 17. The survivors managed to stay alive
for 10 weeks by resorting to cannibalism – eating the flesh of the
fallen. Two of the men eventually ventured out, flagged down a Chilean
horseman and ended the 72-day struggle.


Steven Callahan

(source)
Six days after Steven Callahan set sail
on a boat he built himself, it sank and left him drifting aimlessly on a
5-foot life raft. With minimal rations and a makeshift spear, he
battled malnourishment, dehydration, sunburn, a now leaking raft and
countless shark attacks on his road to survival. In total Callahan
drifted 1,800 miles and managed to survive 76 days on the barren sea
before his rescue.


Yossi Ghinsberg

(source)
Yossi Ghinsberg ventured into the
Bolivian Amazon with a total of three friends. When they realized they
were lost and lacking supplies, the foursome decided to divide into
pairs – Ghinsberg and his partner floated a raft down the river while
the others were never seen again. Ghinsberg’s raft eventually hit a rock
and the duo was split to fend for themselves. While his partner
immediately found help, Ghinsberg was left alone in the wild for 19 days
before his partner and a rescue team recovered him.


Tami Oldham Ashcraft

(source)
When sailing vet Tami Oldham Ashcraft
and her fiancée Richard Sharp accepted the duty to deliver a sailboat
from Tahiti to San Diego, they never considered Hurricane Raymond.
Caught amongst 50-foot waves and 160-mph winds; the boat capsized and
knocked Ashcraft unconscious. She woke 27 hours later to find that Sharp
was gone and the boat was in shambles. Determined, she reconstructed a
makeshift mast and sail, plotted a 1,500-mile course to Hawaii and
braved forty days at sea.


Ricky Megee

(source)
Ricky Megee was drugged while
hitchhiking and left for dead in the middle of the Australian Northern
Territory. Disoriented and malnourished, he constructed shelters when
needed, drank water when he could and lived off of leeches, insects,
snakes, frogs and lizards. Surviving the outback for a total of 71 days,
Megee started his fight at 230 pounds and was a mere 105 pounds when he
wondered onto the farm that ultimately rescued him.


Mark Inglis and Phil Doole

(source)
Mark Inglis and Phil Doole were climbing
the peaks Aoraki Mount Cook, New Zealand’s highest mountain, when a
white storm surrounded them. Desperate, they built a snow cave in an
attempt to stay put and wait-out the blizzard’s wrath. Though they
managed to survive the elements for 13 days with minimal rations, they
both suffered extreme frostbite and their legs were later amputated.


Joe Spring

(source)
An innocent day of cross-country skiing
in Steamboat Springs, CO turned nasty for Joe Spring when he broke his
leg. In the middle of nowhere and with minimal day-trip
supplies, he crawled 13 hours a day for eight days in the direction of
home. Greatly dehydrated and losing more than 35 pounds before his
rescue, he spent his nights shivering in tree wells and drew motivation
from the anguish that others would feel if he were to die.


Andrew Taber

(source)
Andrew Taber and his friend Loïc Pillois
found themselves lost in a 78-mile section of forest near Approuague
River in South America. Spending a total of 51 days in the jungle, the
duo divvied out tasks for survival and resorted to eating beetles,
tarantulas and even bugs that swarmed to their excrement. They lost 100
pounds collectively on their 76-mile journey to the edge of the jungle
where they were miraculously sited just 2 miles from Saül.


Poon Lim

(source)
Poon Lim jumped overboard with a life
vest moments before the boilers exploded on his WWII battleship.
Stranded at sea, 750 miles east of the Amazon, he was the sole survivor
of the wreckage. After securing a small life raft, he spent his days
fashioning fishhooks from nails, snaring birds and corralling rainwater
for hydration. Now a legend, Lim was discovered by a Brazilian fisherman
133 days after the original shipwreck.


One Response to “Resilient Spirits: 15 Miraculous Tales of Survival”

  1. The Guitar God says:

    October 21, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Add “without internet” to all of these and these are truly remarkable.


    2. true lilly says:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    November 6, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    In my 50 years of life, I’ve been greatly blessed with more than a
    few life saving miracles, but the outstanding, officially recorded
    answer to a faithful mother’s prayer, was when my son, DIED in my arms,
    and CAME BACK TO LIFE. Raised in a medical family, knowing first aid,
    somehow I knew, standard practice wouldn’t be enough. “Oh God, what do I
    do!”, and the answer that ‘fell in my head’, was “THUMP HIS CHEST.”, so
    I did. I skipped all mouth to mouth etc. and thumped his chest, and
    kept thumping, as my other son was on the phone with the ambulance
    service, describing everything (like him not breathing for 10 minutes),
    but getting no instruction as to what to do while we waited, and
    waited…by the, very long, time they did arrive, he was not only
    conscious, but his stats were so good, I had to argue for them to take
    him to hospital! The Miracle? It was months later, that it made the
    World News: Doctors had ‘Discovered’, in REAL EMERGENCIES, Go Straight To
    CHEST COMPRESSIONS and KEEP IT UP. Skip mouth to mouth etc. So again I
    Thank God, that He caused me to IGNORE “Best Practice”, AT THE TIME, and
    ASK HIS ADVICE. Oh and ten minutes in warm weather, not freezing
    conditions that slow degeneration, with no oxygen getting to his brain,
    well, he “should have” at least been brain dead…instead of “too healthy
    to take to hospital”!
10 Extremely Miraculous Survivors

In our life we come across some miraculous and incredible survival
stories which leave us in awe and admiration. All such stories teach us
one thing that struggle for survival requires will of high magnitude; a
desire to live and go back to family. This strong will has miraculously
brought people back from death against all odds.

[some of the images below might be disturbing in nature]

Gejinder

September 19, 2010 at 9:53 am

When god is there nothing can happen.

tadhg

September 23, 2010 at 6:03 am
If God was there at all, none of this stuff would have happened.

true lilly Your comment is awaiting moderation.

November 7, 2011 at 7:19 am
tadhg:
the whole world is under the rule of The Prince of Death, and has been
since oxygen formed (yes science has recently discovered
that LIFE EXISTED on earth, BEFORE oxygen formed), as is clearly
described in God’s Word. GOD CREATED, SUSTAINS and SAVES LIFE, while we
yet remain under death’s rule, and that will not be forever.


Anyway, for Your Real Life’s sake, consider that, and this:


In my 50 years of life, I’ve been greatly blessed with more than a
few life saving miracles, but the outstanding, officially recorded
answer to a faithful mother’s prayer, was when my son, DIED in my arms,
and CAME BACK TO LIFE. Raised in a medical family, knowing first aid,
somehow I knew, standard practice wouldn’t be enough. “Oh God, what do I
do!”, and the answer that ‘fell in my head’, was “THUMP HIS CHEST.”, so
I did. I skipped all mouth to mouth etc. and thumped his chest, and
kept thumping, as my other son was on the phone with the ambulance
service, describing everything (like him not breathing for 10 minutes),
but getting no instruction as to what to do while we waited, and
waited…by the, very long, time they did arrive, he was not only
conscious, but his stats were so good, I had to argue for them to take
him to hospital! The Miracle? It was months later, that it made the
World News: Doctors had ‘Discovered’, in REAL EMERGENCIES, Go Straight To
CHEST COMPRESSIONS and KEEP IT UP. Skip mouth to mouth etc. So again I
Thank God, that He caused me to IGNORE “Best Practice”, AT THE TIME, and
ASK HIS ADVICE. Oh and ten minutes in warm weather, not freezing
conditions that slow degeneration, with no oxygen getting to his brain,
well, he “should have” at least been brain dead…instead of “too healthy
to take to hospital”!


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Post  Ciggy on Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:46 pm

Fuck off with that spam, barmy bint.
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Post  true lilly on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:32 pm

RE: DO JUSTICE - START with the "respected people" WHO USE and PROTECT VIOLENT SCUM.

I once asked for just a little Justice. Since then, I daily see,
The Ivory Towers of those who KNOWINGLY PERPETUATE EVIL, being shaken.

They WILL FALL, and DESTROY ALL who use those 'defensive positions of respectability'
to ATTACK JUSTICE, and IT WILL BE JUST, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL BEEN WARNED.

Isaiah 14:1-32
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=14&v=1&t=KJV#1
1
For Jehovah will show mercy to Jacob, and he is
yet certain to choose Israel; and he will actually give them rest upon
their soil, and the alien resident must be joined to them, and they must
attach themselves to the house of Jacob.
2
And peoples will actually take them and bring them
to their own place, and the house of Israel must take them to
themselves as a possession upon the soil of Jehovah as menservants and
as maidservants; and they must become the captors of those holding them
captive, and they must have in subjection those who were driving them to
work.

3
And it must occur in the day when Jehovah gives
you rest from your pain and from your agitation and from the hard
slavery in which you were made a slave,
4
that you must raise up this proverbial saying against the king of Babylon and say:

“How has the one driving [others] to work come to a stop, the oppression come to a stop!
5
Jehovah has broken the rod of the wicked ones, the staff of the ruling ones,

6
the one striking peoples in fury with a stroke
incessantly, the one subduing nations in sheer anger with a persecution
without restraint.
7
The whole earth has come to rest, has become free of disturbance. People have become cheerful with joyful cries.
8
Even the juniper trees have also rejoiced at you,
the cedars of Leb´a·non, [saying,] ‘Ever since you have lain down, no
[wood]cutter comes up against us.’

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=14&v=1&t=KJV#1

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060342667&postcount=32055
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3172

Elsa Corp was murdered
after a parole blunder
left her killer free

by:Geoff Wilkinson
From:Herald Sun
November 07, 2011
12:00AM
107 comments


Elsa Corp was murdered during a blind date. Supplied

THE family of a young woman strangled by a parolee is still waiting
for an apology after a bureaucratic bungle left him at large, free to
kill her.

Elsa Corp, a 26-year-old hairdresser, was murdered on her first date with a man
she did not know was a violent serial offender on parole.


Her killer, David Patrick Clifford, is one of three parole violators charged with murder
after Corrections Victoria caseworkers failed to notify the Parole Board they had committed new offences which could have led to their parole being cancelled.

Corrections Victoria was notified that Clifford had been arrested on three separate
occasions before he killed Ms Corp on February 1 last year.


When he murdered Ms Corp
he was on parole for drug trafficking,
had already breached parole
and a suspended sentence
following other earlier convictions
and was awaiting sentence over
the bashing of a bar owner.


Results: Parole bungle
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Should authorities apologise to the family of a woman murdered after a parole bungle?

  • Yes 96.44% (2494 votes)

  • No 3.56% (92 votes)

Total votes: 2586
Ms Corp's parents, Andy and Gilly, said yesterday no-one had taken
responsibility for their daughter's death or said they were sorry.


Mr Corp, a former UK policeman, said the family wrote to Police Minister
Peter Ryan and Corrections Minister Andrew McIntosh last week seeking
information and answers.


He said his family did not know Clifford was on parole until they read a story in the Herald Sun in June this year.


"It's absolutely gutted us, because it was a very bad failure in the system,'' Mr Corp said.

"For the sake of a bit of training, or procedure or supervision, the system fell over and failed us.

"Our daughter would probably be alive today if there hadn't been these stuff-ups''.


Ms Corp was on a blind date arranged by a girfriend
when she was beaten, slashed and strangled
in a South Melbourne hotel room.


She is believed to have been lured to the room in the belief other friends were going to be there.

Clifford, 30, was due to stand trial on October 25 for Ms Corp's murder, but
decided on the eve of the three-week trial to plead guilty.


He will be sentenced after a Supreme Court plea hearing later this month.


Police handling of the parolee issue was addressed in last month's explosive report by the Office of Police Integrity.


The report said former Deputy Commissioner Sir Ken Jones had suggested
to then Chief Commissioner Simon Overland that the families of victims
allegedly murdered by parolees
be notified of the findings of an internal review.


Mr Overland, in an email reply he later implied was leaked by Sir Ken,
requested formal written advice prior to notifying the families.


The OPI report said Mr Overland cautioned that if Victoria Police had
"let the families down (he didn't) want to exacerbate the situation by
handling notification badly''.


But Mr Corp said yesterday his family had still received no formal explanation or apology from police or anyone else.


"Not at all, which hurts,'' he said.


The Herald Sun first revealed the state's parole scandal in April, when a secret
police report disclosed that 11 Victorians had been murdered by parole
violators in less than two-and-a-half years.

The report said seven of the 11 murders may have been prevented if police who had peviously dealt with the offenders over other matters had known they were on parole.


A failure in the police computer system was blamed, but after an urgent review it emerged that human error was also involved.


The review by police found that in three of those seven cases, community
corrections caseworkers
were advised that parolees had been arrested
over other matters, but failed to pass the information on to the Parole Board.


Acting Chief Commissioner Ken Lay told the Herald Sun
after the review that in one of the three cases "Offender C'' - now
known to be Clifford - had been arrested on July 7, 2008, January 26,
2009, and June 9, 2009.


Each time, the police computer notified a Justice Department computer which then advised the relevant caseworker.


Ms Corp, who lived with her parents, was one of the three victims. The other two cases are still before the courts.


Acting Chief Commissioner Lay and Corrections Victoria Commissioner, Bob
Hastings, both admitted after the review that "procedural failures''
had left parole violators on the street.


It was also revealed after the review that another five murders had been
committed in other states by Victorians who had absconded on parole.


Clifford's prior convictions stretch back to 1998 and
include aggravated burglary on the home of a 76-year-old woman,
false imprisonment, intentionally causing injury, assault,
resisting police,
harassing a witness, breaching an intervention order, drug trafficking,
dangerous driving and possession of an unregistered firearm.


Detectives who arrested him for drug trafficking found a handgun and
$68,000 cash in a backpack hidden in theceiling of his grandmother's
home.


One of Clifford's brothers, Sean, was convicted of larceny by finding in Sydney in 2005 after
claiming to have found a backpack containing $263,000 in cash in a lane near his home.


The last judge to sentence David Clifford told him she thought his
prospects of rehabilitation were low and specific deterrence should play
a significant part in his sentence.


Judge Jane Patrick said Clifford had not shown remorse for his part in the
drunken bashing of a Fitzroy bar owner on June 13, 2008 - only a month
after he had been released on parole.


She said Clifford was of above average intelligence, but abused drugs and alcohol and had behaved like "a violent and aggressive bully''.


She sentenced him in July last year to a total of 33 months' jail for intentionally causing injury, false imprisonment and assault, with a minimum of 21 months to serve before parole.

But in June this year, the Court of Appeal cut Clifford's sentence to 24 months with a minimum of 12 months.


The appeal judges, Justices Chris Maxwell and Lex Lasry, ruled that the
discrepancy between Clifford's sentence and that of his brother Kieran, a
co-offender, was manifestly excessive.


The Court of Appeal also found Judge Patrick had not taken sufficient account of the totality
principle, which required her to assume Clifford would have to serve another 18 months as the unexpired parole period.


A Parole Board spokesman said yesterday the board was co-operating with an independent
review of its functions, powers and processes by the Sentencing Advisory Council.


He said the board had already expanded the extent of information sharing with Victoria Police and was working closely with a separate review of the Office of Correctional Services "to eliminate shortcomings in the assessment and supervision of parolees''.


A Corrections Victoria spokesman said it had "taken steps to improve
information sharing with Victoria Police and strengthen the management
of parolees''.

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Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:34 am

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2555
cori wrote:

05-01-2011, 03:33 PM
This is a WARNING! of a total financial crash.
tintin wrote:

05-01-2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by faraday


The Land Of The Rising Sun



In the U.S television series, "FRIENDS",
the characters helped and protected each
other like a FAMILY.


Folks,
I see poster FARADAY has returned.
I have seen many idiots here but
FARADAY is the

SUPREME SUPERIOR IDIOT

Poster FARADAY told the READERS here they WERE ALL AGENTS.
Just to let you know,
Don't take anything serious FARADAY posts.

I have no problem with IDIOTS.
( I mean, that's life)
FARADAY is different because he/she (whatever) crosses
all borders of sanity, decency, lunacy, etc.....

Posters like FARADY make me jump to GREECE RESTAURANTS
and order METAXA in amounts GRAHAM GREENE wouldn't
even dare to write about. ( Sorry Graham, it's all very true)



Sorry Graham, remember our good time in Vienna?
Yeah, those good old days.
No Idiots around, you know, just Anton Karas.....

Romance, spies, suspence....
Remember Orson?
Did you know, Dolores Del Rio and Me.....
Well,
forget it.....




Between You, and me Graham,
Dolores actually was Dutch!
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2555

The screenplay was written by
novelist Graham Greene,
Henry Graham Greene, OM, CH

(2 October 1904 – 3 April 1991)



Talkin' to the dead again...now THAT
is BATSHIT CRAZY...and THAT IS WHAT "tintin"
IS DRIVEN TO DRIVE YOU ALL TO FOLLOW...
his BATSHIT CRAZY NEW ONE WORLD RELIGION...
...if you don't, and HE CAN'T GET YOU...
he'll set his ghouls/GOON/actor/spies
i.e. RUTHLESS SELL OUTS ontaya

...trouble is "tintin" is BATSHIT EVIL CUNNING...
...and while he/they make folk believe they have
'occultic' 'powers' tagetchyawith...
WE KNOW, AS ALL SHOULD, it's only the nod & wink
and 'innocent' (CODED) CONversations with "YOUR mates",
down the Pub, Hairdressers, Doctors, at work etc.,
that starts the poison flowin' & misfortune rollin'...

SEE, 'The Third Man' in 'tintin's' post, is both,
sleight of hand, and one of those SICK JOKES,
(he luuvvvssss laughing in his victim's faces),
while he is CONversing in CODE with the, still, living...

...particularly those who FEAR an END to their 'good' Fortune,
that makes them 'bigger' than others who HONESTLY work harder,
better, and are HONESTLY MORE TALENTED...for example,
'tintin' could be talking to this living G.Greene...


http://www.grahamgreene.com.au/biography.html

...so, how can you save yourself from such a vast,
international, unknown, unseen NETwork?

YOU CAN'T, BUT, as I've witnessed, experienced
and testified,

GOD CAN and DOES!

And
That Is The Very Best News!...
... that 'they' still want me dead,
for daring to, freely share.


P.S. you'll find I've been explaining and showing
how 'they' 'work' 'their' NET, in far more detail,
since years back in my ATS days...and everywhere
that 'they've' banned me
Rolling Eyes Razz ,
when 'they' failed to argue or bully away these FACTS.
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Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:16 am

true lilly wrote:

Adam Scott of Australia
hits his second shot
on the second hole
during
the second round
of the WGC-HSBC Champions
at Sheshan International Golf
Club
in Shanghai, China.


6th of 10.
BBC NEWS: TODAY IN PICTURES

well, that's the best, now SEE the rest,
and READ them very carefully...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-15579392
Fumanwoo wrote:Hi everyone!!!

So this is the sod like ive been hearing about.

Hope to have some good debates with you all :-)

Ive started a forum of my own www.http://woowoo.freeforums.org
GOOD?
DEBATES?
HERE?
Laughing Wink
Well you can try, but if you stray off already heavily peddled, 'acceptable' by 'they' topics,
get ready to put all the foot stomping, hissy fitters on ignore, and hope someone other
than 'them' actually get to see your posts, and may take up actual discussion/debate...
somewhere, somehow...if 'they' don't also block access to your emails, I.P. server, et-bloody-cetera... Rolling Eyes

So why do I bother posting here, you may ask...
Wink

...as I was saying...
www.http://woowoo.freeforums.org
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.http.

Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


And yes, everything is 'working' my end...except for that 'phone' (Bluetooth)
connection that 'they' installed externally, but can't be accessed to remove...
...FUCKIN FILTHY RUG MUNCHIN FILTHY COPPER'S WHORES!

true lilly wrote:

Adam Scott of Australia
hits his second shot
on the second hole
during
the second round
of the WGC-HSBC Champions
at Sheshan International Golf
Club
in Shanghai, China.
New laws a second chance
to prosecute constables' murders

by:Geoff Wilkinson
From:
Herald Sun
November 08, 2011

12:00AM


Peter McEvoy and (inset) Damian Eyre and Steven Tynan (top). Herald Sun

THE Walsh Street police killings 23 years ago are likely to be the
first target of a new double-jeopardy law to be introduced to Parliament
today.

Double-jeopardy protection against being tried twice for the same offence will be removed when the new law is passed.

Senior police have visited the parents of the two young constables shot dead
in an ambush on October 11, 1988, and briefed them on the prospect of a
new prosecution.


Police said yesterday the force "looks forward to the possibilities this important new legislation presents".


Assistant Commissioner (Crime) Graham Ashton said the impact of the new law on
existing cases, including Walsh Street, had been discussed with the
Office of Public Prosecutions.


Mr Ashton said the force was preparing "preliminary material" ahead of formal meetings
with the OPP.

He said the ambush murders of Constables Steven Tynan, 22, and Damian Eyre, 19, were "brutal and reprehensible".

"Bringing the killers to justice for these appalling crimes remains an
unflinching priority for Victoria Police," Mr Ashton said.


Three of the four men charged with the Walsh Street murders - Peter McEvoy,
Trevor Pettingill and Anthony Farrell - were acquitted by a jury and are
still alive and the fourth, Victor Peirce, was gunned down in Port Melbourne in 2002.


Frank
Eyre, the father of one of the murdered constables, yesterday welcomed
news of the legislation's introduction and said he hoped it would
receive bipartisan support and be passed
quickly.


Attorney-General Robert Clark told the Herald Sunthe
Director of Public Prosecutions would be able to make only one
application for a retrial in a bid to reverse an earlier acquittal.


Critics say although four other states have dropped double-jeopardy immunity
over the past five years, there have not yet been any repeat prosecutions.


But
Mr Clark said there had been successful retrials and convictions in
several cases in England, where double-jeopardy immunity was dropped in
2005.


He said Victoria's new law provided "a sensible framework with appropriate checks and balances".


The
reforms will be retrospective and will mean a new trial can be ordered
if there is compelling new evidence a person previously acquitted of a
serious crime was guilty.


Mr Clark
said it could apply in cases where there was fresh and compelling DNA
evidence, where an acquitted person subsequently admitted to the crime,
or where it became clear
key witnesses had given false evidence.

[email=wilkinsong@heraldsun.com.au%20]wilkinsong@heraldsun.com.au [/email]
true lilly wrote:

Adam Scott of Australia
hits his second shot
on the second hole
during
the second round
of the WGC-HSBC Champions
at Sheshan International Golf
Club
in Shanghai, China.
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Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:17 am

true lilly wrote:
Adam Scott of Australia
hits his second shot
on the second hole
during
the second round
of the WGC-HSBC Champions
at Sheshan International Golf
Club
in Shanghai, China.


6th of 10.
BBC NEWS: TODAY IN PICTURES

well, that's the best, now SEE the rest,
and READ them very carefully...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-15579392
Fumanwoo wrote:Hi everyone!!!

So this is the sod like ive been hearing about.

Hope to have some good debates with you all :-)

Ive started a forum of my own www.http://woowoo.freeforums.org
GOOD?
DEBATES?
HERE?
Laughing Wink
Well you can try, but if you stray off already heavily peddled, 'acceptable' by 'they' topics,
get ready to put all the foot stomping, hissy fitters on ignore, and hope someone other
than 'them' actually get to see your posts, and may take up actual discussion/debate...
somewhere, somehow...if 'they' don't also block access to your emails, I.P. server, et-bloody-cetera... Rolling Eyes

So why do I bother posting here, you may ask...
Wink

...as I was saying...
www.http://woowoo.freeforums.org
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.http.

Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


And yes, everything is 'working' my end...except for that 'phone' (Bluetooth)
connection that 'they' installed externally, but can't be accessed to remove...
...FUCKIN FILTHY RUG MUNCHIN FILTHY COPPER'S WHORES!

true lilly wrote:
Adam Scott of Australia
hits his second shot
on the second hole
during
the second round
of the WGC-HSBC Champions
at Sheshan International Golf
Club
in Shanghai, China.
New laws a second chance
to prosecute constables' murders

by:Geoff Wilkinson
From:
Herald Sun
November 08, 2011

12:00AM


Peter McEvoy and (inset) Damian Eyre and Steven Tynan (top). Herald Sun

THE Walsh Street police killings 23 years ago are likely to be the
first target of a new double-jeopardy law to be introduced to Parliament
today.

Double-jeopardy protection against being tried twice for the same offence will be removed when the new law is passed.

Senior police have visited the parents of the two young constables shot dead
in an ambush on October 11, 1988, and briefed them on the prospect of a
new prosecution.


Police said yesterday the force "looks forward to the possibilities this important new legislation presents".


Assistant Commissioner (Crime) Graham Ashton said the impact of the new law on
existing cases, including Walsh Street, had been discussed with the
Office of Public Prosecutions.


Mr Ashton said the force was preparing "preliminary material" ahead of formal meetings
with the OPP.

He said the ambush murders of Constables Steven Tynan, 22, and Damian Eyre, 19, were "brutal and reprehensible".

"Bringing the killers to justice for these appalling crimes remains an
unflinching priority for Victoria Police," Mr Ashton said.


Three of the four men charged with the Walsh Street murders - Peter McEvoy,
Trevor Pettingill and Anthony Farrell - were acquitted by a jury and are
still alive and the fourth, Victor Peirce, was gunned down in Port Melbourne in 2002.


Frank
Eyre, the father of one of the murdered constables, yesterday welcomed
news of the legislation's introduction and said he hoped it would
receive bipartisan support and be passed
quickly.


Attorney-General Robert Clark told the Herald Sunthe
Director of Public Prosecutions would be able to make only one
application for a retrial in a bid to reverse an earlier acquittal.


Critics say although four other states have dropped double-jeopardy immunity
over the past five years, there have not yet been any repeat prosecutions.


But
Mr Clark said there had been successful retrials and convictions in
several cases in England, where double-jeopardy immunity was dropped in
2005.


He said Victoria's new law provided "a sensible framework with appropriate checks and balances".


The
reforms will be retrospective and will mean a new trial can be ordered
if there is compelling new evidence a person previously acquitted of a
serious crime was guilty.


Mr Clark
said it could apply in cases where there was fresh and compelling DNA
evidence, where an acquitted person subsequently admitted to the crime,
or where it became clear
key witnesses had given false evidence.

[email=wilkinsong@heraldsun.com.au%20]wilkinsong@heraldsun.com.au [/email]
true lilly wrote:
Adam Scott of Australia
hits his second shot
on the second hole
during
the second round
of the WGC-HSBC Champions
at Sheshan International Golf
Club
in Shanghai, China.
...mmm..got a NEW 'style' of THREAT tonight...
a rather dramatic "POP UP"...
...would be more bothersome,
if it didn't quote 'Billy Ruben's' phone text, and
message bank, threats...
or is that why I should be scared, now...or...
[/quote]
true lilly wrote:http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2555
cori wrote:

05-01-2011, 03:33 PM
This is a WARNING! of a total financial crash.
tintin wrote:

05-01-2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by faraday


The Land Of The Rising Sun



In the U.S television series, "FRIENDS",
the characters helped and protected each
other like a FAMILY.


Folks,
I see poster FARADAY has returned.
I have seen many idiots here but
FARADAY is the

SUPREME SUPERIOR IDIOT

Poster FARADAY told the READERS here they WERE ALL AGENTS.
Just to let you know,
Don't take anything serious FARADAY posts.

I have no problem with IDIOTS.
( I mean, that's life)
FARADAY is different because he/she (whatever) crosses
all borders of sanity, decency, lunacy, etc.....

Posters like FARADY make me jump to GREECE RESTAURANTS
and order METAXA in amounts GRAHAM GREENE wouldn't
even dare to write about. ( Sorry Graham, it's all very true)



Sorry Graham, remember our good time in Vienna?
Yeah, those good old days.
No Idiots around, you know, just Anton Karas.....

Romance, spies, suspence....
Remember Orson?
Did you know, Dolores Del Rio and Me.....
Well,
forget it.....




Between You, and me Graham,
Dolores actually was Dutch!
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2555

The screenplay was written by
novelist Graham Greene,
Henry Graham Greene, OM, CH

(2 October 1904 – 3 April 1991)



Talkin' to the dead again...now THAT
is BATSHIT CRAZY...and THAT IS WHAT "tintin"
IS DRIVEN TO DRIVE YOU ALL TO FOLLOW...
his BATSHIT CRAZY NEW ONE WORLD RELIGION...
...if you don't, and HE CAN'T GET YOU...
he'll set his ghouls/GOON/actor/spies
i.e. RUTHLESS SELL OUTS ontaya

...trouble is "tintin" is BATSHIT EVIL CUNNING...
...and while he/they make folk believe they have
'occultic' 'powers' tagetchyawith...
WE KNOW, AS ALL SHOULD, it's only the nod & wink
and 'innocent' (CODED) CONversations with "YOUR mates",
down the Pub, Hairdressers, Doctors, at work etc.,
that starts the poison flowin' & misfortune rollin'...

SEE, 'The Third Man' in 'tintin's' post, is both,
sleight of hand, and one of those SICK JOKES,
(he luuvvvssss laughing in his victim's faces),
while he is CONversing in CODE with the, still, living...

...particularly those who FEAR an END to their 'good' Fortune,
that makes them 'bigger' than others who HONESTLY work harder,
better, and are HONESTLY MORE TALENTED...for example,
'tintin' could be talking to this living G.Greene...


http://www.grahamgreene.com.au/biography.html

...so, how can you save yourself from such a vast,
international, unknown, unseen NETwork?

YOU CAN'T, BUT, as I've witnessed, experienced
and testified,

GOD CAN and DOES!

And
That Is The Very Best News!...
... that 'they' still want me dead,
for daring to, freely share.


P.S. you'll find I've been explaining and showing
how 'they' 'work' 'their' NET, in far more detail,
since years back in my ATS days...and everywhere
that 'they've' banned me
Rolling Eyes Razz ,
when 'they' failed to argue or bully away these FACTS.
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Post  sharky on Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:53 am

rolf lmao
Night night, don't let the Bats of Darkness bite yer ass thumbs up wave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBKa-bCasY wacky



flower

rolf


wave


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7guzT6ANI&feature=fvst






thumbs up
git yer groove on!

thumbs up


. cheers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlDltwm-JY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBKa-bCasY








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3af4ZJS4w








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMniyUyqN_E







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiIC3A0ROM

[/quote]

le sabrage wrote:Genesis-Bereshith: In the Beginning
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people."

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....


THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO God...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman

The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.

I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.

Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...

Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.

All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...

All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place at Mount Sinai.

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Abstract Ethical Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all three innovations were mutually reinforcing.

YHWH/God proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

YHWH/God expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

YHWH forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others’ role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says YHWH/God' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are YHWHs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.

The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.

The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.

Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. An Abstract Ethical Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..

Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.

Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.

If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?

Examine each groups’ values and praxis.

Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.

This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.

They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Ethical Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of YHWH/God, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Love your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codices of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.

Each one of the first four commandments encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated than other contemporary Ancient Near East Cultures.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shall have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop demoted all other elohim/gods & goddesses to nothings.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existent, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subservient to Him.

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.

82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs’ Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Arithmetic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other Ancient Near East culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literate Societies tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgement Day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden one day a week and the Farmland to lay fallow every seven years to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Mount Sinai:

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamia.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first culture to universally embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first/oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alephbetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced and enabled the possibility of Universal Literacy

So once upon a time in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinaitic Alephbet=precursor of the Alphabet.

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform in usage after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds’ oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Mount Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Babylon, Egypt etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Relativists may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?


Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.



Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the Ancient Near East Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.
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Re: David Icke Official Forums="TERRORIST SITE"?

Post  true lilly on Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:32 pm

"tintin" WORSE than "Yellow"...
a LOVER of LIES, PLAGIARIST
(NOT a CREATIVE bone in him),
ANTI CREATOR, ANTI CREATION,
ANTI LIFE, ANTI TRUTH, and,
ANTI ANYONE DOING or RECEIVING
JUSTICE...
because NONE of HIS SELF GLORYING
is Justly earned or maintained...

ALL HE DOES is HUNT SACRIFICIAL Lambs
TO THROW to HIS WOLVES, and their
BLOODY REMAINS AT OTHER
WEAK, POWERLESS, INNOCENTS...

and, CAN'T SHUT UP about
WHAT A GREAT JOKE IT IS TO HIM
Evil or Very Mad
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3207
EVIL!

nope...not it yet...but compare how MANY 'names'
VIOLENTLY STORM against me, for daring to SHOW
that GOD'S WORD DOES DESCRIBE AUSTRALIA
to BE ZION, FOR ALL ISRAEL and FRIENDS...
...and NOTE 'THOSE NAMES' CALL FOR THE
DESTRUCTION of ISRAEL and FRIENDS...AND,
WANT THIS GLORIOUS LAND FOR THEMSELVES!


true lilly wrote:
So that's how you get a bloke to the shops...
The much-anticipated third instalment in
the Call of Duty franchise was
released at midnight, to the delight of
fans waiting at EB Games.
Picture: Fiona Hamilton
Read More
SEVERE STORM
WARNING FOR VICTORIA

Severe storm warning for Victoria

6:27AM
Nathan Mawby

UPDATE 7am:

STORMS and lightning
sweep through Melbourne,
with the weather bureau

warning the worst is yet to come.

Biggest war of them all
VIDEO: Gamers turned out at midnight for
the launch of the highly anticipated
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3

P.S. these are ALL on Today's MURDOCH Herald Sun
FRONT PAGE.
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:Well, like most of my posts, the images have been removed
(mostly because I let those KEY Images, 'do most of the talking'),
but this page is timely and relevant now...as others have noticed
Wink
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902

The following is only a little of what is relevant now
(much more at the link),
but I include it as, we also,
NOW have The Situation -
AFTER THE QUEEN HOSTED CHOGM
(COMMONWEALTH HEADS of GOVERNMENT MEETING)
IN AUSTRALIA -
that NOT ONLY CAN a
FEMALE INHERIT THE BRITISH CROWN
AHEAD of a Younger Male,
BUT, CATHOLICS ARE NO LONGER EXCLUDED!


Royal girls to get equal shot at crown - World news - Europe ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/.../royal-girls-get-equal-shot-crow... - United States
28 Oct 2011 – First-born daughters will have new right to inherit the throne ... able to pass her crown to her firstborn, Britain's Princess Victoria would have had
...

CatholicHerald.co.uk | Breaking news and opinion from the online ...
www.catholicherald.co.uk/
2 hours ago – Ban on British monarch marrying a Catholic to be lifted ...


The prince is a direct descendant of
Anne, Princess Royal and Princess of Orange,
eldest daughter of British King George II.
However, under the British Act of Settlement,
Prince Willem-Alexander forfeited his (distant)
succession rights to the throne
of the United Kingdom,

because he married a Roman Catholic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander,_Prince_of_Orange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A1xima_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Claus_of_the_Netherlands
tintin wrote:30-05-2008,


The great Deception.
The Anti-christ is the great Deception.
All about "appearance" and empty hollow words that LOOK
to be honest but are the
opposite.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is the great DECEIVER.[/size]

Máxima and her husband
at the White House,
11 September 2009
.

Quote:
Originally Posted by anthony1965

You take paranoia to new heights Vera...
Just as you do with hypocrisy...
I see green is your colour of the moment...
And your usual switching of lower to upper case...
Wow!

WOW, alright...thanks again for more points
to educate folk about !

"Paranoia" is when you see plots that are NOT THERE.

"Hypocrisy" is PRETENDING to be who/what you are NOT.


Me, I AM ME, STILL HERE for ANYONE to FIND & QUIZ.
Still fighting with a HACKED SICK Old p.c. that OFTEN
causes my posts to NOT APPEAR as I'VE posted or as I
WANT to post, so I make do, and occasionally apologise
for the messiness, explaining why.

But aside from all that, I DO CHANGE MY 'style' BECAUSE
I AM A REAL INDIVIDUAL, NOT a 'Bot' or ACTOR trying to
"KEEP IN CHARACTER", and so I enjoy the FREEDOM of
expressing SEASONAL changes and PERSONAL moods.

And as for my use of upper and lower case, it's simply
quicker and easier on my SICK p.c. than to BOLD and
UNDERLINE KEY POINTS...and God Knows I have enough
Posting Time STOLEN through countless little 'hack attacks'!
...


Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa



The heir and the spare:
royal brothers plot future

Why Prince William and Prince Harry
are in a historically unique position
in the modern monarchy.


Heir and the spare:
royal brothers plot future

ANDREW PIERCE
November 24, 2009 - 3:53PM


Princes William and Harry ....
in a historically unique position
in the modern monarchy.
Photo: Getty Images


When Prince Harry, proud in the red-collared coat of the Household
Cavalry, laid a wreath at the Cenotaph for the first time on Remembrance
Sunday it was another milestone in his coming of age as a senior member
of the Royal family. Unusually, he took precedence over Prince William,
a future King, because he was representing their father, who was
overseas with the Duchess of Cornwall.

But now the two princes have planted the first seeds of a long public
partnership with the creation of the "Charity Foundation of Prince
William and Prince Harry".

The venture underlines the closeness of the two brothers in a family not noted for its intimacy.

The Queen's four children rarely see each other socially and never
joined forces on specific charitable ventures like the one set up by
Prince William and Prince Harry, which has been registered at the
Charity Commission.

The brothers were always close but the devastating death of their
mother, Diana, Princess of Wales 12 years ago cemented their dependency
on each other. They are living together under the same roof for the
first time since they were teenagers, while they train at RAF Shawbury -
Prince Harry to fly Apache attack helicopters with the Army Air Corps
and Prince William to become a search-and-rescue pilot with the RAF.

Their decision to give at least a third of all the money raised by the
foundation to the welfare of the military, a cause championed by their
father and grandmother, will resonate with the public - a point not lost
on their advisers. The foundation is the most significant expansion of
their public profiles.

The truth is that both Prince William and Prince Harry are in a historically unique position in the modern monarchy.

For the first time since the reign of Queen Victoria both "the heir and the spare" are healthy adults.


Never before has there been a Prince of Wales as old as Prince Charles,
the longest-serving heir to the throne. The Queen, at 83, shows little
sign of slowing down.

Prince William knows his own position could also last decades if his father's health is as robust as his grandmother's.

It is why, at 27 and 25 respectively, the princes are already plotting
their future. They both want to avoid the mistakes made by their father,
who spent decades agonising about his role and purpose in public life.

The foundation will not just be a fitting testament to the legacy of
their mother; it is also a sign that the princes are ahead of their
father at the same stage in their apprenticeships.

The Prince of Wales set up the Prince's Trust, his first charitable
venture, with his $13,400 severance pay from the Royal Navy, while Prince William and Prince Harry could each have another decade in the forces.

Both the Queen and Prince of Wales hope the foundation is a further sign
that the princes have become more comfortable about the unenviable
prospect of devoting their entire lives to public duty in the often
unforgiving eye of the media.

Prince Harry, in particular, still blames the media for the death of his
mother, her car pursued by the Paris paparazzi into the Alma tunnel.

The expansion of their charitable ventures is also shrewd public relations.

Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at Oxford University, said:
"When the Queen came to the throne, about a third of the population
thought that the monarchy had been ordained by God. They don't think
like that now and they want it to be a utilitarian institution which has
to justify itself and to show the monarchy is relevant and practical.
It's why the princes have embarked on this course.

"It's not easy. There is no prescribed role for the heir to the throne,
let alone the son of the heir and his brother. The Prince of Wales has
become the first to find a proper role for himself and Prince William is
clearly following in his footsteps."

A number of decisions have already been taken by the young princes. They
will studiously avoid courting political controversy, unlike their
father who at 22 was questioning Harold Wilson's government over the
fate of Atlantic salmon years before declining fish stocks figured on
the political agenda.

In the ensuing four decades or so as the warm-up act to the Queen, the
Prince of Wales has been demonised as the adulterer in his disastrous
marriage, criticised for meddling in government affairs and attacked as a
hypocrite who does not practise what he preaches on climate change
because of his lavish lifestyle and penchant for flying the world in
chartered jets.

It is significant that Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, the princes'
increasingly influential private secretary, is a trustee of the charity.
He is helping to plan a more structured career path for them.

When Prince William leaves the RAF he will go on secondment to Parliament, probably in the Speaker's Office, to learn about the drafting of Bills, the parliamentary timetable, and the traditions of the Palace of Westminster, where he will one day make the King's speech.

He will also work in one of the Inns of Court alongside barristers, prosecutors, defence lawyers and judges.

"He will be head of the judiciary one day so he wants to have an understanding of it," said one aide.

He will also spend time working with his charities.

There is the possibility of a diplomatic posting such as Governor-General of Australia or Canada for either of the princes.

Their father was linked to the Canberra post in the 1970s. There would be advantages to a posting in Australia where Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, is an avowed republican.

It is one reason why Prince
William is representing the monarch for the first time overseas next
year in New Zealand and Australia, the most far flung parts of her
realm.


But diplomatic baubles are not in the gift of Clarence House.

"They are a matter for the Australian and Canadian governments. It would not be appropriate for the Royal family to say Prince William or Prince Harry is up for the job,"
an adviser said.

"However, if they were to offer it would be given very serious consideration."

Over the years, Prince William has taken soundings from a number of
eminent figures, including Dr David Starkey, the historian, whose books
on Henry VIII and Elizabeth I have been turned into successful television series.

They both talk endlessly to the Duke of Edinburgh, who has been a valuable source of advice.

One friend said: "No matter how good the advisers in the inner-circle,
the Queen and Prince of Wales give the best possible wise counsel."

Both princes have become closer to their father since the death of their
mother and have observed his restlessness, which was on show as
recently as last November in a documentary to mark his 60th birthday.

When asked if he enjoyed his job, he replied: "Bits of it."

It was their father who encouraged them to stay in the protective
custody of the RAF and the Household Calvary, where they can lead a life
as close as possible to normal, albeit with protection officers by
their side for 24 hours a day.

Unlike other members of the Royal family, they do not have equerries to
lay out their clothes and they do their own ironing in the rented
cottage they share near RAF Shawbury in Shropshire.

The flunkeys who will wait upon them hand and foot (and who will be
officers they have worked alongside) will not arrive until they go back
to civilian life.

Already attitudes are changing; these days most people address them as Prince William and Prince Harry or Your Royal Highness.

While they don't object to being called just William or Harry, even some staff who previously used their Christian names now address them by their titles.

It is another sign that they are turning into central figures in the
House of Windsor, exactly as the Queen and Prince of Wales intended.

In 18 months, the new foundation will be giving out grants, ensuring
that Prince William and Prince Harry increasingly hog the limelight at
the expense of older members of the Royal family, including their
father.

It is ironic, then, that for years the princes, who were the most
reluctant members of the Royal family - not least because of the manner
of the death of their mother - are now seen as the best assets of the
House of Windsor.

The foundation is another sign that the princes have started thinking
about how they can live up to their billing as the future of the House
of Windsor.

London Telegraph

Quote:
Originally Posted by palomino

Hey Vera Susa I might have a clue!

Today's poll

http://www.2ue.com.au/
Radio Station in Australia

2UE Webpoll GG Princes

Would you be happy to have
Prince Harry or Prince William
as our next Govenor General?

Yes 53%

No 46%

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa

Oh how funny!

So in this season when:

BALLARAT BASE Hospital
becomes part of
St John of God CATHOLIC Hospital

and

BALLARAT University
becomes part of
The CATHOLIC University

and we're told of

A CATHOLIC Chapel
IN THE ROYAL ANGLICAN Cathedral

and

The CATHOLIC Church
IS "TAKING BACK" ANGLICANS


we're WELCOMING
"HOLY ROYAL PRINCES" HOME...

is when I'm being RANTED AT
for reminding readers that
I've pointed at all this
all along

Quote:
Originally Posted by vera susa

Right, so we've had another round
of NWO AGENTS playing silly buggers
for want of counter arguments, tugging at
peoples National Pride and Fear and Loathing
of Government, in an attempt to replace Logical
Thinking with EMOTIONAL RESPONSES and so
keep them BLIND to The SECRET 'They' HIDE.

AUSTRALIA. GOD DESCRIBED IT,
From The Beginning.

GOD didn't lie about this Land.
GOD didn't lie about Anything.
GOD'S Promises STILL STAND.

And that IS THE BEST NEWS.

Oh sure, there is NOWHERE on Earth that isn't
suffering the results of corruptions that poison and kill,
but NO ONE can deny that it hasn't got worse
the further we've leaned away from Our Father's
Loving Advice and trusted man to 'save' us.
But again, only more evidence of what HE WARNED.

To help get your head around THE BIGNESS
of The TRUTH, simply use that 'GLOBAL VILLAGE'
idea and think of Australia as THE HOSPITAL
during a Time of War...suffering to, but
DEVOTEDLY PRESERVED.

But our Very FEW 'Capital' CITIES do need 'Thinning',


Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by vera susa

Dumplings move in on Melbourne;
chaos expected

* John Lethlean and Necia Wilden
* From: The Australian
* November 24, 2009 12:00AM

DUMPLING fever grips the eastern seaboard.


While Sydney has its branch of international chain Din Tai Fung,
Melbourne's slightly sexier equivalent, Hutong Dumpling Bar,
is about to open a second branch in Prahran.

Hutong, opposite Melbourne's venerable Flower Drum,
has been swamped since opening earlier this year.
The Commercial Road branch due to open next week
will include duck ovens.
Expect chaos and great Shanghai food.

IT sometimes seems Australia's best food
is outside the big cities.

In Tasmania, Daniel Alps in the Tamar Valley
(see The Weekend Australian Magazine, December 5)
is probably the state's finest restaurant
and now The 2010 Adelaide Food Guide has awarded
restaurant of the year to a regional champion:
Fino, at Willunga.
"We love real food that tastes like real food,
fresh, exciting and expressing flavour first
rather than fashion and design,"
said the judges.

On the basis of a visit last week, we agree.
Melburnians may remember chef David Swain
at St Kilda's Veludo in the 1990s;
seems he has made the right decision
returning to regional South Australia.

cont:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225802270327

This is an odd little report in that
putting KEY words and PHRASES together
that PROMOTE THIS LAND of PLENTY,
while WARNING of "SHANGHAI" CHAOS,
ARE "THE STORY"...further told in this mornings News
here...

</td> </tr> </table>
our Regional Cities and COUNTRY Towns need
Infrastructure Development and RE-POPULATING
and our OVER 40% WILDERNESS DOES NEED
WELL MANAGED DEVELOPMENT.

But we do NOT want "FOREIGN COUNTRIES"
sprouting in those currently too empty lands,
so, we NEED to ESTABLISH
AUSTRALIAN populations in those areas...

and one way is to simply TEMPT people OUT
of their lounge rooms and OUT to SEE and
FALL IN LOVE with All of This Most Glorious Land...



Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares

Tiger offers travellers $2 airfares


Flights snapped up as
Tiger Airways offers $2 fares


By Kate Schneider
news.com.au
November 24, 2009 07:24am

Tiger Airways

Tiger Airways is offering $2 fares
for one-way travel from Sydney to Melbourne,
Adelaide or the Gold Coast / Supplied


TIGER Airways is offering $2 airfares today
to celebrate the airline's second birthday in Australia.

There are currently 2000 tickets available for travel
on Tuesdays and Wednesdays between
May 5 and September 10 next year.

The fares apply for one-way travel from
Sydney to Melbourne, Adelaide or the Gold Coast.

It includes taxes and charges but is subject to
a $6 fee per sector if booked with a credit card.

It includes hand luggage of up to seven kilograms only.

All bookings are non-refundable and non-transferable.

The sale ends tonight or until sold out.
Sexy when wet for Top End tourism


By Nigel Adlam

Northern Territory News

November 24, 2009 08:09am


TOURISTS are learning that
the wet season is sexy,
a leading Territory tourism figure said.


Top End Tourism president Sylvia Wolf said
visitors loved watching the pavements steam after rain.

”It's very sensual,” she said.
“Our wet season song should be Singing in the Rain.

Ms Wolf said
the big drop-off in tourist numbers at the end of the Dry
had not been anywhere near as sharp as usual this year.

She said this was because of years of hard work
educating people about the glories of the monsoon.
Ms Wolf said
Darwin had much to offer during the wet season –
lushness, fantastic storms and reasonably priced accommodation.


”Now that we've got more accommodation,
the rates are more reasonable.

”There's no ripping off the poor old tourists with inflated prices.”


Ms Wolf said the spectacular success of the
$100 million Darwin Convention Centre
had helped change the tourism season.


The season used to start in April and end abruptly in September.

The Territory Government and tourism industry
began promoting the “shoulder” months –
April-May and September-October –
a few years ago.

And now they are pushing the joys of the Wet.


”A lot of people think
you can't get around during the wet season,
but that's not true,
Ms Wolf said.

”We're educating people and many are not so afraid
to come here during the Wet.”

About 50 southern rural travel agents
visited Darwin earlier last month and
were pleasantly surprised at the weather
and sophistication of the city.


Bookings are already coming through
from that initial familiarisation tour.

Last edited by merlincove; 26-11-2009 at 02:08 PM.
Reason:
Questioning members' identities

(oh and, 'nice' of 'them' to admit 'they' edit my posts,
FOR ASKING IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!
Rolling Eyes, so while it is worth
reading on, please know 'they' deliberately make my posts,
harder to make clear sense of, than I originally try to write them.)
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1902
true lilly wrote:
true lilly wrote:"TINTIN"=Boastfully Proud,
EXPERT on PLANE CRASHES.

...so I find these two pieces of News, being on the same
Murdoch owned Front Page, interesting...so soon after
my warning posts,
of "tintin's" obsession with PLANE CRASHES...


Flight 523 from New York
had just landed safely in Guyana
when something suddenly went wrong.
Passengers shrieked as the plane sped up,
skidded off the runway and broke up
just short of a 60m ravine.
Picture: AP
Read More

Tintin
Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson
give a sneak peek of their collaboration,
The Adventures of Tintin.
So while he's gloating over pulling off the Oslo massacre, lets
compare one of his old posts (Pre-Gloating over 'their' plot to
TAKE AUSTRALIA), and TODAY'S NEWS...


...btw, 'tintin' also 'speaks' in 'reverse' a lot,
as he luuvvvsssss to mockingly gloat 'they' do;
here he is also laughing at so many buying
his 'way',
a "HOLLOW CON"...


tintin wrote:17-10-2007, 03:36 PM #22
HolloWAY and ConWAY.
and it were CON man behind it.
Not the usual conmen but the more dangerous ones, the
ones that pose as DECENT citizens.
(as 'tintin' so often
proclaims himself, while slandering those of us who warn
the world about the likes of him)


And Holloway and Maddie Mccann are closely connected.
So this TASMANIAN story most certainly is an
important message.


Tasmanie or van DIEMENS LAND.
Diemen as DEMON.
hadn't thought of that but it's very true.
DIEMEN in Holland, named after Jan van Diemen.

Road 112 to DIEMEN
European alarm number.


Diemen or DEMON.

DIEMEN is the most
dangerous town in Holland.


It's a wealthy suburb of Amsterdam, and a lot
of Criminals from Amsterdam have their appartment in
Diemen.
Saw it on Teletext, Diemen most dangerous....
Very surprised because it looks so peaceful.

Anyway, but the DEMON link is fitting.


The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

Martin bryant was the patsy.

MARTIN. or MARTINI.
Tasmania is named after a GRONINGER and
Groningen City, is the MARTINI-City.

The famous MARTINI tower.
96 meters high.
So a MASSACRE in Port arthur.
So what place did the PRINCE OF ORANGE visited
while in tasmania?


Willem alexander in
Port Arthur.


Martin Bryant.
Killed 35 people.
Well VERA, here is a bit of MAGIC you were asking for.
(yep, for tintin to show his hand)

HARRY POTTER, Dutch
prime minister, born the same
date as MARTIN BRYANT.


He is Jan Peter Balkenende and his nick
is Harry Potter.

the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.
but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL.

So just to give a bit of background info on
the DUTCH connection to Tasmania.

And the school Bryant went to is
Marcelinn College, run by the MARISTS.
that the SOCIETY of MARY.

Here we have that MARY link.
The Bloodline of MARY Magdalena.

MARCELINN CHAMPAGNAT.
born 20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.
The thirteenth satanic Bloodline.

Now remember, it was under the name, "Cruise",
that "tintin" first said he'd "swim to Tasmania",
and that under the name, "Aarnout van der Plooge",
"tintin" claimed to be from Groningen...and then look
at how this 'EXPERT WITH NUMBERS', gets such simple,
basic math, so 'wrong'...'wrong' my foot!
It's a PLOT SCRIPT!

"The biggest MASSACRE in australian history was in
Port Arthur.

20 MAY. 13 days after
the Massacre.


the port atrhur Massacre was 28 april.

but when in Holland it's still partly 27 april at the same time.
The PRINCE of ORANGE is born 27 APRIL."

So what's with the MAY 20 & 13?
13 May=my birthday.
20 May=my daughter's.


So? It's not about me, but, it is about 'them' trying to
force the whole world to Deny The Holy Spirit of
The Creator God I serve, Who Warned us of 'their' plots
to do so (through BLOODY, UNJUST, SLAUGHTERS,
And, THE WEB NET of SPIES and LIES IN OUR HOUSES),

From The Beginning.


And, DON'T FORGET ASSANGE/AARNOUT'S BUNKER of
COMPUTERS storing "INSURANCE"
in the form of HACKED
and otherwise collected ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.


Now read back from here:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=2983
where Team Tintin are having "FUN" STILL GLOATING
over the OSLO SLAUGHTERS,
to TODAY'S NEWS.

Horrific Port Arthur footage on YouTube

  • Meryl Naidoo and Brian Ward

  • From:News Limited newspapers

  • July 28, 2011

  • 17 comments

Mourners gather to remember the victims of the Port Arthur massacre.
Herald Sun


Port Arthur mass murderer Martin Bryant.
Supplied

HORRIFIC footage of the aftermath
of the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
has been uploaded on YouTube.

Police aretrying to trace
the account holder,
whose uploaded under
the alias "FreeMartinBryant".

The nine-minute evidence video
was stolen from the Tasmanian Police archive.

It
contains graphic images of some of the 35 people shot dead at the
tourist spot, and police last night were trying to have it removed from
the internet.
FreeMartinBryant's user profile contains more than
20 videos pertaining to "conspiracies"
surrounding the events of Port
Arthur, with several videos pertaining to Bryant's "innocence".
It is unknown how the footage was obtained,
but it also appeared on the internet in 2004 .

"Unfortunately
this isn't the first time that this training video has turned up in the
wider community," Deputy Commissioner Scott Tilyard said.

Related Coverage

"It has been known for some years that copies of the police training video have found their way into the public domain.
"A copy was located at a public tip in 2004, which led to an investigation."
Police Minister David O'Byrne said the footage was unlikely to have been stolen recently.
The video archive was upgraded in 2004.
"Tasmania
Police changed their procedures after discovering the material may be
in the public domain, in 2004," he said. "I'm advised no breach has
occurred since then and that the current procedures for handling such
material are secure."
Police are greatly concerned about the effect the video could have on the wider community.
"It
is highly distressing not only for the families of the victims, but for
the community, for these images to be available on the internet," Mr
Tilyard said.
Trauma psychologist Paul Stevenson, who worked for
many years with many of the survivors and victims' families, shared the
disbelief and horror about the posted video.

"To post this is a nasty, terrible thing to have occurred," the Brisbane-based consultant psychologist said.
"By
watching or hearing it is a re-experience - all of those things people
felt at the time come back. The tragedy occurs all over.
"This is very distressing ...
a real worry for families of victims
because
this is exactly what triggers
post-traumatic stress."


See also, why Team Tintin DON'T LINK to posts
and News 'they' cherry pick IMAGES and "quotes" from:


Dutch royals touch down on Aussie visit
October 25, 2006 - 3:39PM


Hobart has put on a chilly welcome for Dutch royals the Prince
of Orange Willem-Alexander
and Princess Maxima.


Premier Paul Lennon and Governor William Cox braved icy winds to
meet the royal couple from the Netherlands at Hobart airport on
Wednesday afternoon.


"We are very pleased and honoured that their royal highnesses
have chosen to include Tasmania in their Australian visit," Mr
Lennon said.

"I am particularly delighted that the royal couple has chosen to
spend two days in Tasmania visiting a number of our attractions.


"Dutch explorer Abel Tasman was the first European to sight the
state that now bears his name
and the steady stream of Dutch
migrants to Tasmania have made an enormous contribution in so many
areas."

The couple's itinerary includes a tour of the Tasmanian Museum
and Art Gallery, a visit to Port Arthur and a private reception for
the Dutch community at the Henry Jones Art hotel.

The couple is in Australia on an official visit to celebrate 400
years since Dutch explorers landed
on the coast of Western
Australia.

They will fly to Sydney on Thursday afternoon and from there
they will travel to New Zealand.
©️ 2006
AAP

oh, there is much more to this old plot
that I must trust 'those who know' to deal with,
but it includes real links between
SOCCER, N & S KOREA,
CHINA & AUSTRALIA,
and 'tintin's' self proclaimed"EXPERTIZE" in
PLANE CRASHES.
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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:04 pm


Computer seized at couple's home


Anthony Dowsley and Mark Buttler
UPDATE 8.42am:
POLICE have confirmed they spoke to a couple
and seized their computer
on the day they went missing.

dixie dean wrote:
09-11-2011, 12:18 AM #32097
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormrider73

I'm a "Targeted Individual" aka TI
You could reverse Targeted Individual to Individually Targeted which would give you IT.

When you put IT into Wiki you get three pages come up...

It (novel), It (film) and Information Technology

It might be worth keeping that in mind,

Last edited by dixie d; 09-11-2011 at 12:19 AM.
...and NO, you EVIL DICK "TINTIN", YOU DIDN'T 'predict' ANYTHING!

YOU PLOT, and PULL SOME OFF, but FRAZIER'S DEATH WAS EXPECTED,
AND WIDELY REPORTED IN THE MSN, BEFORE YOU, MORE (NOT less),
posted FISTS of YOUR EXCREMENTAL words, dates & images, TO LATER,
INSANELY EXPECT others to believe a CHERRY PICKED FEW, 'predicted'
SHIT!

But what EXPOSES YOU and YOUR OTHER 'names', IS THE LUST with
which YOU GLOAT and TRY TO PERSONALLY BOAST OF, DEATHS.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3210
dixie dean wrote: 08-11-2011, 12:59 PM #32079
Quote:
Originally Posted by cori



JOE FRAZIER died
Frazier was diagnosed with liver cancer in late September 2011 and admitted to hospice care.[3] He died November 7, 2011.

November 7 is 117 or 711 reveresed. I also wondered if Smoking Joe might have any reference to Volcano

Quote:
Black smokers or deep sea vents are an example of this kind of volcanic activity.
Last edited by dixie d; 08-11-2011 at 01:00 PM.


true lilly wrote:30-10-2007, 04:33 PM #499
Quote:
Originally Posted by armoured saint

It's not like you have checked and
compared DNA samples of these as opposed to groups of people in the
middleast, egypt and south america as well as the Aborigines. So, how
did Moses get to Australia from south America and yet the source of the
story comes from either Egypt, middle or near east.

Don't tell me Noah built the 'Abel Tasman' and then handed it down to Moses somehow.

I like your font colouring. It dazzles the senses. Puts "King Of The Mountain" to shame.

And here we have it again folks, that DESPERATE NEED TO WORSHIP EGYPT,
The City of The DEATH CULT.

Now this 'character' is NOT unfamiliar with all that's been posted on this topic,
yet comes up with a childish, "Oh yeah!" post like this.

Now as for comparing DNA; it has been done and in the news, that native
Australians ARE THE OLDEST, PUREST Blooded peoples.
Related closest to the OLDEST PUREST SOUTH AMERICANS and Africans,
who in THEIR OWN ORAL HISTORY tell of NOT ORIGINATING in Africa.

So, AT LEAST 60,000 years of the LONGEST CONTINUOUS Cultures,
of the 'OLDEST' peoples, who's DREAMING STORIES ARE the Consistently
CLOSEST FITS TO GENESIS...but we'll just IGNORE ALL THAT and
"keep looking for" "where they came from"??!!!

The CLOSEST RELATED FLORA & FAUNA to OZ NATIVES, are South American.

'Jerusalem' wasn't GIVEN that name until around 1000 Year AFTER
Alexander The Great DELUDED PUPPET of his Twisted Mother, told
the world an ORACLE in EGYPT "told him" that "HE WAS THE SON of 'god'".

That's a THOUSAND YEARS of the MOST POWERFUL, ANTI-CHRIST
EMPIRES FORCING their 'history' down the throats of powerless,

uneducated peoples, with things like the CONTINUED BLOODY INQUISITIONS
that SLAUGHTERED, PRIMARILY, CHRISTIANS who would NOT accept ROME'S
COUNTERFEIT.

But "THEY" want YOU to IGNORE that Holy Scripture ALSO DESCRIBES
the NATURAL HISTORY that Science is finally catching up with; IGNORE
that Holy Scripture DESCRIBES the WHOLE World,
FROM THE TIME of The Super-Continent before that River Head became a SEA,
that "They", without foundation, RE-named the Euphrates.

In fact IGNORE ALL Holy Scripture, according to "Them" it's all a fairy tale,
EXCEPT THE BITS KNOWN TO BE CHANGED, in order TO SELL EGYPT'S
DEATH WORSHIP CULT!

Now long after Joshua died, after winning wars ON FOOT against Mounted
Armies and HAMSTRINGING all their BEASTS OF BURDEN (which is what those
'horses' and 'camels' are), they FORGOT Their God and History and were
DRIVEN OUT OF ZION (which included the UTTER DEVASTATION of the land
that The Creator also Promised He would cause to BLOOM RICH again when
the Lost, Scattered, Mixed and Mingled Israel, started returning), which
was when those Old Cultures of Asia took off, and the GENETIC MIX of
peoples across the world and into NORTHERN Europe SUPPORTS this.

And so does what VERY LITTLE Archeology had been done in this land;
a Large Corralling of Different, Large, Unknown DOMESTIC Animals.

But be patient, we'd need over 500 of these pages to catch up on all the
evidences for this case, that "this poster" KNOWS we've covered elsewhere.

It's the COUNTERFEITING "Jesuit Trained" scholars and "those who
say they are Jews but are NOT", who INVENTED that ONLY around 6000 year age
of the world according to ROMES 'bible'.

Holy Scripture DESCRIBES a MUCH OLDER AGE,
RIGHT BACK TO BEFORE MAN LIVED ON THE SUPER-CONTINENT.
true lilly wrote:Re: Aboriginal Stonehenge:
Stargazing in ancient Australia
true lilly Today, 9-11-2011 at 12:53 am
Geology
Prehistory of Antarctica



Map showing details of Gondwana break-up, including glacial scouring
as Australia moved northwards.
(Map: R Beaman)


Like all other continents, Antarctica has at its core an ancient
shield. The rocks of the East Antarctica shield are as old as 4 billion
years, which means that they are amongst the oldest known rocks on
Earth. Geologists are now studying this shield to help them gain insight
into the early geological processes of the Earth’s history.


In many ways, the evolution of Antarctica appears to be similar to
that of Australia.
The fossil record of the two continents is similar,
and Antarctica has yielded dinosaurs, amphibians and even marsupials
from ages when the continents were joined.


The position of the continents shifts constantly and the geography of
today's world is vastly different from what it was even a hundred
million years ago. Twenty million years before the dinosaurs became
extinct, Australia, Antarctica and South America were part of the same
land mass called Gondwana. In those days Antarctica was not covered in
ice, even though it was at the South Pole. Animals passed freely from
South America through Antarctica to Australia, and the plant species of
Gondwana were also closely related to each other.


Eighty five million years ago Australia began to separate from Antarctica.
The separation started slowly at first at a rate of only a few millimetres a year.
This then accelerated to the present rate of 7 cm a year.
Australia completely separated from Antarctica about 30 million years ago.


Scientists in Antarctica have discovered fossilised spores and pollen
of sundews, Nothofagus (which includes the Tasmanian myrtle
N. cunninghamii and the Tasmanian deciduous beech N. gunnii ).
The Tasmanian tree fern and creeping pine, are derived from forms which
once inhabited Australia and Antarctica.

Scientists were recently excited by a fossil discovery of twigs, roots, leaves
and pollen in Antarctica, of a form which is virtually indistinguishable
from Nothofagus gunnii , the Tasmanian deciduous beech.

These fossils may be ‘only’ 3 million years old.

This implies that Antarctica was not entirely covered by ice at that time.
Previous to this find, scientists had thought that Antarctica cooled and
became ice bound after Australia and South America separated
30 million years ago, allowing the Circumpolar Current to develop.
Scientists are still debating the age and significance of this
fossil discovery.


Antarctica without its ice

Casey: the Daintree of Antarctica

People who consider Antarctica to be a small continent will be
surprised to discover that it is larger than Europe and nearly twice the
size of Australia. The Antarctic continent, excluding its ice shelves,
covers over 13 million square kilometres compared with 7.7 million km²
for Australia, or 10.5 million km² for Europe. The map below gives some
idea of relative size.




Ninety-nine percent of Antarctica has a permanent blanket of snow and ice.
Only about one percent of the continent's rock base is visible
where it pokes through the ice sheet in the form of coastal outcrops,
mountain ranges or ‘nunataks’ which are isolated peaks.


The Transantarctic Mountains divide the continent into two
contrasting parts, the East and West. The Transantarctic Mountains
constitute one of the world’s longest and most impressive mountain
chains. They extend from the north western corner of the Ross Sea to the
south western corner of the Weddell Sea. West Antarctica, which
includes the Antarctic Peninsula, is smaller and has a complex
geological history. West Antarctica consists of four land units each
with a different history. There has been major volcanic activity here in
recent geological times and there are still a few active volcanic
centres.
Deep waters exist between land units and the West Antarctic ice
sheet, which can be considered to a be floating ice mass, held in place
by land peaks. West Antarctica includes the Vinson Massif, which has
the highest peak in Antarctica at 5140 metres.


Most of East Antarctica is still not well known by geologists but it
does include the Transantarctic Mountains.
These commonly exceed 4000
metres elevation. The shield is very depressed in the centre, where it
carries the bulk of the Antarctic ice sheet. Large areas lie deeper than
1000 metres below sea level.


Mining Antarctica

There are deposits of minerals such as coal and iron ore, but there
are vast economic and technical difficulties associated with the
recovery of mineral deposits. The Antarctic ice cover is, on average,
2.5 km thick and this means that very little of the land is accessible
for exploration, so work would have to take place under the ice sheet.
The difficult Antarctic conditions, evenwhen the technology works well
elsewhere make exploitation unlikely.
Once minerals are mined, Antarctica is a long way from world markets,
and material would have to be transported over the treacherous Southern
Ocean. Cheaper sources exist elsewhere in the world, and these will be
exploited before Antarctic sources.


So far, the economics of extracting resources from the harsh
Antarctic environment have prevented any commercial operations, but
Antarctica's climate may not protect its minerals indefinitely. What can
prevent such exploitation is a strong, well-supported international
agreement. Nations of the Antarctic Treaty System agreed in 1991 to put a
halt to the exploitation of minerals when they signed a comprehensive
Protocol on Environmental Protection (the Madrid Protocol), which banned
mining in Antarctica indefinitely. This important agreement came into
force in January 1998.

Read more about mining in Antarctica


Glossopteris (Fossil) leaf Permian age, Prince Charles Mountains.
(Photo: R Oldfield; Cat: 4766C1)


Antarctic prehistory facts
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/fact-files/geology/antarctic-prehistory-facts

One more time, FROM THE BEGINNING...

Lebanon = "whiteness"
1) a wooded mountain range on the northern border of Israel

LEBANON

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lebanon&t=KJV

Every place 4725 whereon the soles 3709 of your feet 7272 shall tread 1869
shall be yours: from the wilderness 4057 and Lebanon 3844,
from the river 5104, the river 5104 Euphrates 6578,
even unto the uttermost 314 sea 3220 shall your coast 1366 be.


LABAN

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=laban&t=KJV&sf=5

And Isaac 3327 sent away 7971 Jacob 3290:
and he went 3212 to Padanaram 6307 unto Laban 3837,
son 1121 of Bethuel 1328 the Syrian 761, the brother 251 of Rebekah 7259,
Jacob's 3290 and Esau's 6215 mother 517.

I left school at 14, not that I went much before then, as by 8, I knew
there was something about The Time Line, we weren't being taught, and
that, 'That Something' had to do with GOD.
Not that I left EDUCATION, I was doing my Horsemasters Diploma by 13,
and continued self education, all my life, taking interest in whatever any expert
on anything had to share.

Seekwith your whole heart and whole mind. That's what I set out to do,
and not so much 'despite', but 'because' of the many false paths I'd cross
and take, I discovered that faith, inThe Creator and The Truth of His Word,
was the only thing that led me past knowledge, to understanding,
and discovery, of yet more knowledge and understanding.

As I came to understand that just as Australia was 'presented' to be a
land of 'no historic value', my lack of deep interest in the deep sea
and Antarctica, was born of how they were 'presented'.

But my most deep interest was always in seeking to know God, which again,
led me to 'KNOW', what I'm still only discovering, others have long known...and
I should not keep having to argue the facts of.

God Exists!
God Described All The World, All The Earth and All Peoples,
From The Beginning.

And, God Does KEEP ALL HIS PROMISES.

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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:13 pm

YEP, there is an AWFUL LOT of ALTERING,
CHANGING and INTERFERING with the
Threads, Posts and
COMPUTERS and PHONES of INDIVIDUALS
going on lately.

"I also feel in involves
Thread 3069
I did link to a specific page,
but the page had been altered after."
Thread 3069

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3069
And, what many of us
want everyone to ask themselves is,
WHY AREN'T the "TINTIN/ASSANGES" and ALL
OTHER ANONYMOUS SUPER HACKERS,
HACKING, TRACKING, COLLECTING
and PROVING WHO
THE CHILD SEX TRADERS ARE,

instead of hacking ATN's and preventing
the working poor from collecting their
wages and so CAUSING THE WORKING POOR
to INCUR MORE DEBT
OF COMPUTER WIZARDS/Hackers MAKING?

dixie dean wrote:
09-11-2011, 02:57 AM
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3211
Quote:
I also wondered about BP




Quote:

<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">
In May 1901, William Knox D'Arcy was granted a concession by the
Shah of Iran to search for oil, which he discovered in May 1908.[16]
This was the first commercially significant find in the Middle East. On
14 April 1909, the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC)
was incorporated as a subsidiary of Burmah Oil Company to exploit
this.[16] In 1923, it employed future Prime Minister, Winston Churchill
as a paid consultant, to lobby the British government to allow Burmah to
have exclusive rights to Persian oil resources, which were successfully
granted.[17] In 1935, it became the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC).

</td> </tr> </table>
Is there any link to ACPO

Is there any link also to The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Madeleine's parents keep hope alive with 'lucky' ribbons
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Kate McCann wore green and yellow
ribbons in her hair as a symbol of hope, while her husband Gerry wore a
green wristband, as they attended a special mass to pray for her safe
return.
</td> </tr> </table>

Chang
Dixie Dean
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> He was the first Everton player to wear the "number 9" shirt. Dean is regarded as one of the greatest pre-war sports heroes in British culture.
</td> </tr> </table>
And then you have Madeleine's eye at 7 O'clock, so that's 7 and 9.
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> In addition to Meneses, a district prosecutor, Luis Bilro Verão, was appointed on 11 September 2007
to oversee the investigation.[77] On 12 September Attorney General
Fernando José Pinto Monteiro said that further police action was
necessary after which there could be a reassessment of possible bail
conditions for the suspects.
</td> </tr> </table>
So, you have September 11, 7 and 9 which could mean 7 and 9 11.
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Dean's childhood coincided with the First World War and between the age of 7 and 11
he delivered cow's milk to local families as part of the "war effort:
"Well, it was war time you see, so you were grafting all the time.
</td> </tr> </table>
If you go to the Wiki page for Number 9 you see the following...
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Nine is strongly associated with the Chinese dragon, a symbol of
magic and power. There are nine forms of the dragon, it is described in
terms of nine attributes, and it has nine children It has 117 scales - 81 yang (masculine, heavenly) and 36 yin (feminine, earthly).
</td> </tr> </table>81 is the Country Code for Japan

117 is 711 reversed, and again you have the number 9

7-Eleven


Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> 7-Eleven is part of an international chain of convenience stores, operating under Seven-Eleven Japan Co. Ltd, which in turn is owned by Seven & I Holdings Co. of Japan.[2]
</td> </tr> </table>
The next thing I've just done is to take some grapes out of the
Fridge which I purchased in Tesco and they are American grapes, the next
thing I did was to unplug my Samsung phone and the Charger and the
Charger reminds me of Dea and Canon. The actual charger for the new
phone has the letters JJ on it, and I wear shorts with the initials JJ
on them, which were purchased by my wife. My wife purchased my last
shorts from Bangkok and they have pictures of Cats on them and also
Chinese or Japanese writing on them, I use Cat for my internet and it's
based in Bangkok.

There is a China town here in Chiang Mai where my wife purchased my shorts from the Market.

The bag I put the phone in has the name Keeper on it and it has multi
coloured dots on it. You could associate keeper with Football. There is
also a CAT office here in Chaing Mai.

I've just put the grapes in a plastic box and put them into the fridge.
The actual box that the phone and charger where in is Black, and has the
name Noble Black on it.

What I've just done now is to delete some messages from my log on the
phone, two of them where from AIS and an old number I rang for Atum
which was 333.

AIS

I wonder if we can help the police, or does it involve the police.

I'll try looking at it a bit more.

I'm sorry for posting this again but I'd like to try and keep it
alive.
BP means Horizon. Last night a the Bamboo Bar there was an
American guy who has a Yamaha Nouvo with the registration number 118.
Her in Chaing Mai we have a place called Horizon Village and it is situated on the 118 highway. So it could also involve the Village shop, or the Village where me and my wife frequented quite a lot.

Last night at the Bamboo there was Me, Chris, Phil, Nok, another
American, Jam Jam and Jules. It also involved Nok and Phil and a bady
black Cat and a box and Chris has a daughter by the name of Box. Chris
and Phil were talking about Religion and Buddest Beliefs.

I also feel in involves Thread 3069 I did link to a specific page,
but the page had been altered after.

Quote:
Moses is always distinguishable in the scenes from his yellow dress and the green cloak.
Yellow and Green to me also means Kelly's Restaurant, and a
Baseball Cap I have here which is also Yellow and Green and it also has
the Oakland Athletics



That picture is the Red Arrows performing what is know as a Star Burst.

I just need to look into it a bit more.

Last edited by dixie d; 09-11-2011 at 03:21 AM.

And have a GOOD, CLOSE Read of THIS PAGE:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3210

Earthquakes, Volcanoes...
...man and his MYTHS have
NEVER been able to SAVE anything...


...whereas, GOD TOLD US, HE CREATED LIFE,
and WITH HIM, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.


The Pompeii worm was found in the 1980s


Its family name Alvinellidae and genus name Alvinella
both derive from DSV Alvin, the three-person
submersible vehicle used during the discovery of
hydrothermal vents and their fauna
during the late 1970s.


Deep sea vents in the Atlantic Ocean’s Mid-Atlantic Ridge
support
tubeworms, eelpout fish, and crabs.
The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is an
underwater mountain chain
that extends about 10,000 miles (16,000
kilometers)
from the Arctic Ocean to the southern tip of Africa.
Water heated as high as 760°F (404°C)
by magma from Earth's interior
billows from a seafloor chimney.

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/habitats/deep-sea-vents/

Sadly, most don't use their access to the internet
for edifying education...and end up paying dearly,
trying to satisfy lusts and 'get rich', because they
didn't care to learn to Serve Just life...

Computer seized at couple's home

Anthony Dowsley and Mark Buttler
UPDATE 8.42am:
POLICE have confirmed they spoke to a couple
and seized their computer
on the day they went missing.

dixie dean wrote:
09-11-2011, 12:18 AM #32097
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormrider73

I'm a "Targeted Individual" aka TI
You could reverse Targeted Individual to Individually Targeted which would give you IT.

When you put IT into Wiki you get three pages come up...

It (novel), It (film) and Information Technology

It might be worth keeping that in mind,

Last edited by dixie d; 09-11-2011 at 12:19 AM.
...and NO, you EVIL DICK "TINTIN", YOU DIDN'T 'predict' ANYTHING!

YOU PLOT, and PULL SOME OFF, but FRAZIER'S DEATH WAS EXPECTED,
AND WIDELY REPORTED IN THE MSN, BEFORE YOU, MORE (NOT less),
posted FISTS of YOUR EXCREMENTAL words, dates & images, TO LATER,
INSANELY EXPECT others to believe a CHERRY PICKED FEW, 'predicted'
SHIT!

But what EXPOSES YOU and YOUR OTHER 'names', IS THE LUST with
which YOU GLOAT and TRY TO PERSONALLY BOAST OF, DEATHS.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=3210
dixie dean wrote: 08-11-2011, 12:59 PM #32079
Quote:
Originally Posted by cori



JOE FRAZIER died
Frazier was diagnosed with liver cancer in late September 2011 and admitted to hospice care.[3] He died November 7, 2011.

November 7 is 117 or 711 reveresed. I also wondered if Smoking Joe might have any reference to Volcano

Quote:
Black smokers or deep sea vents are an example of this kind of volcanic activity.
Last edited by dixie d; 08-11-2011 at 01:00 PM.


true lilly wrote:30-10-2007, 04:33 PM #499
Quote:
Originally Posted by armoured saint

It's not like you have checked and
compared DNA samples of these as opposed to groups of people in the
middleast, egypt and south america as well as the Aborigines. So, how
did Moses get to Australia from south America and yet the source of the
story comes from either Egypt, middle or near east.

Don't tell me Noah built the 'Abel Tasman' and then handed it down to Moses somehow.

I like your font colouring. It dazzles the senses. Puts "King Of The Mountain" to shame.

And here we have it again folks, that DESPERATE NEED TO WORSHIP EGYPT,
The City of The DEATH CULT.

Now this 'character' is NOT unfamiliar with all that's been posted on this topic,
yet comes up with a childish, "Oh yeah!" post like this.

Now as for comparing DNA; it has been done and in the news, that native
Australians ARE THE OLDEST, PUREST Blooded peoples.
Related closest to the OLDEST PUREST SOUTH AMERICANS and Africans,
who in THEIR OWN ORAL HISTORY tell of NOT ORIGINATING in Africa.

So, AT LEAST 60,000 years of the LONGEST CONTINUOUS Cultures,
of the 'OLDEST' peoples, who's DREAMING STORIES ARE the Consistently
CLOSEST FITS TO GENESIS...but we'll just IGNORE ALL THAT and
"keep looking for" "where they came from"??!!!

The CLOSEST RELATED FLORA & FAUNA to OZ NATIVES, are South American.

'Jerusalem' wasn't GIVEN that name until around 1000 Year AFTER
Alexander The Great DELUDED PUPPET of his Twisted Mother, told
the world an ORACLE in EGYPT "told him" that "HE WAS THE SON of 'god'".

That's a THOUSAND YEARS of the MOST POWERFUL, ANTI-CHRIST
EMPIRES FORCING their 'history' down the throats of powerless,

uneducated peoples, with things like the CONTINUED BLOODY INQUISITIONS
that SLAUGHTERED, PRIMARILY, CHRISTIANS who would NOT accept ROME'S
COUNTERFEIT.

But "THEY" want YOU to IGNORE that Holy Scripture ALSO DESCRIBES
the NATURAL HISTORY that Science is finally catching up with; IGNORE
that Holy Scripture DESCRIBES the WHOLE World,
FROM THE TIME of The Super-Continent before that River Head became a SEA,
that "They", without foundation, RE-named the Euphrates.

In fact IGNORE ALL Holy Scripture, according to "Them" it's all a fairy tale,
EXCEPT THE BITS KNOWN TO BE CHANGED, in order TO SELL EGYPT'S
DEATH WORSHIP CULT!

Now long after Joshua died, after winning wars ON FOOT against Mounted
Armies and HAMSTRINGING all their BEASTS OF BURDEN (which is what those
'horses' and 'camels' are), they FORGOT Their God and History and were
DRIVEN OUT OF ZION (which included the UTTER DEVASTATION of the land
that The Creator also Promised He would cause to BLOOM RICH again when
the Lost, Scattered, Mixed and Mingled Israel, started returning), which
was when those Old Cultures of Asia took off, and the GENETIC MIX of
peoples across the world and into NORTHERN Europe SUPPORTS this.

And so does what VERY LITTLE Archeology had been done in this land;
a Large Corralling of Different, Large, Unknown DOMESTIC Animals.

But be patient, we'd need over 500 of these pages to catch up on all the
evidences for this case, that "this poster" KNOWS we've covered elsewhere.

It's the COUNTERFEITING "Jesuit Trained" scholars and "those who
say they are Jews but are NOT", who INVENTED that ONLY around 6000 year age
of the world according to ROMES 'bible'.

Holy Scripture DESCRIBES a MUCH OLDER AGE,
RIGHT BACK TO BEFORE MAN LIVED ON THE SUPER-CONTINENT.
true lilly wrote:Re: Aboriginal Stonehenge:
Stargazing in ancient Australia
true lilly Today, 9-11-2011 at 12:53 am
Geology
Prehistory of Antarctica



Map showing details of Gondwana break-up, including glacial scouring
as Australia moved northwards.
(Map: R Beaman)


Like all other continents, Antarctica has at its core an ancient
shield. The rocks of the East Antarctica shield are as old as 4 billion
years, which means that they are amongst the oldest known rocks on
Earth. Geologists are now studying this shield to help them gain insight
into the early geological processes of the Earth’s history.


In many ways, the evolution of Antarctica appears to be similar to
that of Australia.
The fossil record of the two continents is similar,
and Antarctica has yielded dinosaurs, amphibians and even marsupials
from ages when the continents were joined.


The position of the continents shifts constantly and the geography of
today's world is vastly different from what it was even a hundred
million years ago. Twenty million years before the dinosaurs became
extinct, Australia, Antarctica and South America were part of the same
land mass called Gondwana. In those days Antarctica was not covered in
ice, even though it was at the South Pole. Animals passed freely from
South America through Antarctica to Australia, and the plant species of
Gondwana were also closely related to each other.


Eighty five million years ago Australia began to separate from Antarctica.
The separation started slowly at first at a rate of only a few millimetres a year.
This then accelerated to the present rate of 7 cm a year.
Australia completely separated from Antarctica about 30 million years ago.


Scientists in Antarctica have discovered fossilised spores and pollen
of sundews, Nothofagus (which includes the Tasmanian myrtle
N. cunninghamii and the Tasmanian deciduous beech N. gunnii ).
The Tasmanian tree fern and creeping pine, are derived from forms which
once inhabited Australia and Antarctica.

Scientists were recently excited by a fossil discovery of twigs, roots, leaves
and pollen in Antarctica, of a form which is virtually indistinguishable
from Nothofagus gunnii , the Tasmanian deciduous beech.

These fossils may be ‘only’ 3 million years old.

This implies that Antarctica was not entirely covered by ice at that time.
Previous to this find, scientists had thought that Antarctica cooled and
became ice bound after Australia and South America separated
30 million years ago, allowing the Circumpolar Current to develop.
Scientists are still debating the age and significance of this
fossil discovery.


Antarctica without its ice

Casey: the Daintree of Antarctica

People who consider Antarctica to be a small continent will be
surprised to discover that it is larger than Europe and nearly twice the
size of Australia. The Antarctic continent, excluding its ice shelves,
covers over 13 million square kilometres compared with 7.7 million km²
for Australia, or 10.5 million km² for Europe. The map below gives some
idea of relative size.




Ninety-nine percent of Antarctica has a permanent blanket of snow and ice.
Only about one percent of the continent's rock base is visible
where it pokes through the ice sheet in the form of coastal outcrops,
mountain ranges or ‘nunataks’ which are isolated peaks.


The Transantarctic Mountains divide the continent into two
contrasting parts, the East and West. The Transantarctic Mountains
constitute one of the world’s longest and most impressive mountain
chains. They extend from the north western corner of the Ross Sea to the
south western corner of the Weddell Sea. West Antarctica, which
includes the Antarctic Peninsula, is smaller and has a complex
geological history. West Antarctica consists of four land units each
with a different history. There has been major volcanic activity here in
recent geological times and there are still a few active volcanic
centres.
Deep waters exist between land units and the West Antarctic ice
sheet, which can be considered to a be floating ice mass, held in place
by land peaks. West Antarctica includes the Vinson Massif, which has
the highest peak in Antarctica at 5140 metres.


Most of East Antarctica is still not well known by geologists but it
does include the Transantarctic Mountains.
These commonly exceed 4000
metres elevation. The shield is very depressed in the centre, where it
carries the bulk of the Antarctic ice sheet. Large areas lie deeper than
1000 metres below sea level.


Mining Antarctica

There are deposits of minerals such as coal and iron ore, but there
are vast economic and technical difficulties associated with the
recovery of mineral deposits. The Antarctic ice cover is, on average,
2.5 km thick and this means that very little of the land is accessible
for exploration, so work would have to take place under the ice sheet.
The difficult Antarctic conditions, evenwhen the technology works well
elsewhere make exploitation unlikely.
Once minerals are mined, Antarctica is a long way from world markets,
and material would have to be transported over the treacherous Southern
Ocean. Cheaper sources exist elsewhere in the world, and these will be
exploited before Antarctic sources.


So far, the economics of extracting resources from the harsh
Antarctic environment have prevented any commercial operations, but
Antarctica's climate may not protect its minerals indefinitely. What can
prevent such exploitation is a strong, well-supported international
agreement. Nations of the Antarctic Treaty System agreed in 1991 to put a
halt to the exploitation of minerals when they signed a comprehensive
Protocol on Environmental Protection (the Madrid Protocol), which banned
mining in Antarctica indefinitely. This important agreement came into
force in January 1998.

Read more about mining in Antarctica


Glossopteris (Fossil) leaf Permian age, Prince Charles Mountains.
(Photo: R Oldfield; Cat: 4766C1)


Antarctic prehistory facts
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/fact-files/geology/antarctic-prehistory-facts

One more time, FROM THE BEGINNING...

Lebanon = "whiteness"
1) a wooded mountain range on the northern border of Israel

LEBANON

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=lebanon&t=KJV

Every place 4725 whereon the soles 3709 of your feet 7272 shall tread 1869
shall be yours: from the wilderness 4057 and Lebanon 3844,
from the river 5104, the river 5104 Euphrates 6578,
even unto the uttermost 314 sea 3220 shall your coast 1366 be.


LABAN

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And Isaac 3327 sent away 7971 Jacob 3290:
and he went 3212 to Padanaram 6307 unto Laban 3837,
son 1121 of Bethuel 1328 the Syrian 761, the brother 251 of Rebekah 7259,
Jacob's 3290 and Esau's 6215 mother 517.

I left school at 14, not that I went much before then, as by 8, I knew
there was something about The Time Line, we weren't being taught, and
that, 'That Something' had to do with GOD.
Not that I left EDUCATION, I was doing my Horsemasters Diploma by 13,
and continued self education, all my life, taking interest in whatever any expert
on anything had to share.

Seekwith your whole heart and whole mind. That's what I set out to do,
and not so much 'despite', but 'because' of the many false paths I'd cross
and take, I discovered that faith, inThe Creator and The Truth of His Word,
was the only thing that led me past knowledge, to understanding,
and discovery, of yet more knowledge and understanding.

As I came to understand that just as Australia was 'presented' to be a
land of 'no historic value', my lack of deep interest in the deep sea
and Antarctica, was born of how they were 'presented'.

But my most deep interest was always in seeking to know God, which again,
led me to 'KNOW', what I'm still only discovering, others have long known...and
I should not keep having to argue the facts of.

God Exists!
God Described All The World, All The Earth and All Peoples,
From The Beginning.

And, God Does KEEP ALL HIS PROMISES.

P.S. and all the CRAP "Ciggy & Co.=Team TINTIN" keep,
REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEATING, "They" KNOW I've been
SHOWING TO BE "Their" DELIBERATE DECEPTIVE DISTRACTION,
since back in 2005, when I first went on line, and started being
BANNED from further expounding, and being LITERALLY, PHYSICALLY,
FINANCIALLY and Socially ATTACKED, BY "Them", Again.
As I always have been, when I refuse to blame God, for "THEIR" EVILS.


But see, when others of the hippy era, were PREACHING, "God doesn't exist",
I kept looking for His Promised Revealing Proofs, that He Creates AND SAVES
LIFE...and kept finding more and more...


PINK HAIRY SQUAT LOBSTER (Lauriea siagiani) - ©Scott Penny

They are not lobsters at all, but are more closely related to
porcelain crabs, hermit crabs and then, more distantly, true crabs.
They are distributed worldwide in the oceans, and occur from near the
surface to deep sea hydrothermal vents.

There are currently 870 described species.

They live on Giant Barrel Sponges. These squat lobsters are
remarkably colored, with their intense pink body, purple spots, and
bright yellow hairs that protrude in all directions.

Fossil squat lobsters have been found in strata
dating back to the Middle Jurassic of Europe.


Fact Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squat_lobster
http://www.thefeaturedcreature.com/#axzz1GGJ7mEM7

Deep-Sea Volcanoes
Don't Just Produce Lava Flows,
They Also Explode

ScienceDaily (Mar. 28, 2011)


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110328151734.htm
...and if you insist on believing that THE RELIGIONS PREACHED
by ANTI-LIFE GREENIE God Mockers can 'save you', KNOW that
GOD ALSO WARNED that WILLINGLY BLIND FAITH in MAN'S LIES,
CAN'T 'save'!
BUT GOD CAN and DOES, CREATE LIFE FROM NOTHING,
and RESURRECTS The 'dead' WHO DIDN'T DENY,
HIS HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH.
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Post  true lilly on Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:07 pm

Interesting, that
The GLOBAL CONSPIRACY Industry
,
is always telling people to "WAKE UP"...

dixie dean wrote: #32101
There is a guy by the name of Ben who drinks
at the Village Shop and Spies reminds me of
Espionage...
...
By the way, I am only making links to people
the same as Tintin makes links using people.
Sleeper agent:
A sleeper agent is a person who is
recruited
to an intelligence service
to wake up

and perform a specific set of tasks or functions
while living under cover in an area of interest.

This type of agent
is not the same as a deep cover operative

who is continually in contact with
their case officer in order to file intelligence reports.
A sleeper agent
will not be in contact with anyone
until activated.


Interesting because
the more 'they' scream at the world to wake up,
the more those, starting to SEE,
God's Saving Revelations,

are beaten, cowed and BOUGHT into SELLING
DENIAL of The Light of Truth,
so feared and hated by The Willingly Evil.


Interesting to, that GOD WARNED US to
NOT to try to save ourselves by running
to Follow Popular Mass Movements...
but, that MOST STILL WOULD, and,
DIE REGRETTING IT!


...and where did I open at, on praying
about whether to send this...oh, and do
read the full meanings of each word
at the link provided.


Psalms 127:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=127&v=1&t=KJV&sstr=1
A Song of the Ascents. Of Solomon.
1
Unless Jehovah himself builds the house,
It is to no avail that its builders have worked hard on it.
Unless Jehovah himself guards the city,
It is to no avail that the guard has kept awake.

2
To no avail it is for YOU men that YOU are rising up early,
That YOU are sitting down late,
That YOU are eating food with pains.
Just like this he gives sleep even to his beloved one.

3
Look! Sons are an inheritance from Jehovah;
The fruitage of the belly is a reward.

4
Like arrows in the hand of a mighty man,
So are the sons of youth.

5
Happy is the able-bodied man that has filled his quiver with them.
They will not be ashamed,
For they will speak with enemies in the gate.


Psalms 126:
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Post  true lilly on Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:23 pm

"They" really mean, "SHUT UP ABOUT ALL THE HACKERS
BETRAYING AUSTRALIA and LOYAL AUSTRALIANS"...


Remember, it was DURING AUSTRALIA'S FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN -
when I complained to David Icke Official Forums Administration
about "them" MOVING THE NEWS I POSTED, ON THE ELECTION,
OUT OF "Today's News"
to "General" and BANNED ME FROM POSTING
IN "Their" "OFFICIAL ELECTION Thread
In "Today's News"
(which "they"
stated AFTER MY THREAD)
, and about "cori's" CONTINUED DEATH THREATS
(that didn't scare me off) - that "they" BANNED ME FROM THE WHOLE FORUM.


Victoria Police probe hacking allegations
relating to an ALP
electoral roll database

by:James Campbell
From:Sunday Herald Sun
November 13, 2011


The Age editor-in-chief Paul Ramadge did not return calls or text messages left by the Sunday Herald Sun.
Picture: David Crosling
The Sunday Telegraph

VICTORIA Police has launched a criminal investigation into
allegations senior reporters from The Age newspaper illegally hacked
into an ALP electoral roll database and searched the private details of
dozens of high-profile Victorians.


On Thursday morning detectives from VicPol's E-Crime Unit headed by the unit's boss,
John Manley executed a search warrant on the ALP's King St headquarters.

The warrant ordered Labor to surrender material relating to unauthorised
access to the party's Eleczilla database during last year's state
election and named reporters Royce
Millar and Nick McKenzie, the newspaper's editor-in-chief, Paul Ramadge, and senior editor Mark Baker.

The database, which Labor is legally entitled to hold, contains
personal details of millions of Victorians including names, addresses,
phone numbers and marital status as well as any confidential dealings
between individuals and the party.


A Victoria Police spokeswoman confirmed on Friday the matter was under investigation.

"Victoria
Police E-Crime Squad is investigating the allegation that personal
details of Victorians were electronically accessed by a media outlet via
a confidential political party database without authorisation," she
said.

"As the investigation is active and ongoing we are not in a position to comment any further."
In April the Sunday Herald Sun revealed theALP had ordered an internal probe into the Eleczilla hacking.

Among the high-profile Victorians searched from inside The Age were broadcasters Neil Mitchell and Jon Faine, pollster Gary Morgan and Yarra councillor Stephen Jolly.
There also were attempts to search the surnames "Overland" and "Barnes". The
accessing of the database from within The Age allegedly took place over four days
in the lead-up to last November's state election.

That month the newspaper published a report by Mr Millar and Mr McKenzie that
said the newspaper had "gained access" to the ALP's database.

Mr Ramadge did not return voice and text messages left by the Sunday Herald Sun yesterday.

In June The Age's senior editor, Mr Baker, said: "There is nothing improper, unethical or illegal in the actions of The Age.

"The conduct of our reporters . . . was a wholly legitimate exercise of journalism."

While accessing the database, Age journalists also conducted
a string of key word searches
for words including
lesbian, abortion, corruption, gay, Muslim and privacy.


Three detectives from the E-Crime Unit, assisted by technical staff,
arrived unannounced at the ALP's King St headquarters on Thursday morning
with a warrant to seize material relating to The Age's alleged hacking.

They were acting on a complaint laid by
Victorian Electoral Commissioner Steve Tully.

Mr Tully had earlier contacted ALP state secretary Noah Carroll following the Sunday Herald Sun's reports on the matter.

ALP staff co-operated fully with police, who stayed for about three hours,
departing with data relating to the searches allegedly conducted by The Age.

Yesterday Yarra Cr Jolly - whose name was among those allegedly searched
by The Age - said that he was horrified by the allegations.

"People are innocent until proven guilty, but if journalists working for The Age
have been digging dirt on people's personal lives using illegal means, I
think that's outrageous and I think their peers and
also Age readers are
going to be shocked and horrified,"
he said.

"The Age ran very hard against News of the World
in England earlier in the year and if, through this criminal
investigation, they are caught with their pants down doing the same
thing, they need to take a really hard look at themselves."

Pollster Mr Morgan, whose details were also searched, said:
"If they've broken the law then they should be prosecuted."

A legal opinion seen by the Sunday Herald Sun argued
there were reasonable grounds for suspecting the newspaper's actions
breached the Commonwealth's Cybercrime Act 2001 as well as
the Victorian Crimes Act, which carries a penalty of up to two years in prison
for illegally accessing a secure database.


Under both laws,
to prove a crime, the hacker must have knowingly accessed restricted
data and the data must be restricted by an access control system.


In July, Mr Carroll said the party had "never granted any authorisation to The Age".
"Nor did we grant such authorisation to any person within the party to assist The Age
in such an endeavour," he said.

Yesterday Mr Carroll refused to comment on the matter. A spokesman for electoral
commissioner Mr Tully said it would be "inappropriate to comment as the matter is
in the hands of the police".

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le sabrage wrote:Genesis-Bereshith: In the Beginning
26And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

27And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

28And Elohim blessed them, and Elohim said to them, “Bear fruit and increase, and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over all creatures moving on the earth.”

29And Elohim said, “See, I have given you every plant that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it is for food.

30“And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to every creeping creature on the earth, in which there is life, every green plant is for food.” And it came to be so. 31And Elohim saw all that He had made, and see, it was very good.

Tzelem Elokim=Humankind as Image of YHWH/God

1: Has Intelligence

2: Has Freewill

3: Has component of Spiritual Being-A Soul

4: HaShem/YHWH Rules the Universe and Spirit World, Humans have dominion over the Lower World.

5: Has the faculty of Judgement

6: Has an inherent Holiness and Dignity

As created in the image of God, humans are endowed with "three intrinsic dignities": infinite value, equality, and uniqueness.

The first means that human life cannot be weighed, measured, or compared in terms of, that is, subordinated to, any other value. In the Kantian Parlance humans are always a goal or end in themselves and never a means to something else.

The second term implies that no person or group is privileged over another. In fact, Idolatry results when a person or group absolutizes itself or its message.

The third idea reinforces the dignity of every human by insisting that each person is irreplaceable and has a special role to play in the redemption of the world.

The Jewish religion is founded on the divine assurance and human belief that the world will be perfected." Judaism engages with and seeks to overcome these realities of history through its notion of covenant. The covenant is that dynamic which God inaugurated in history, that partnership between God and the Jewish people, to achieve the dignities for which all humans were created. Jews are those teachers, models, and co-workers-having both a divine and human partners - whom God designated to help all persons and even nature achieve redemption. For Greenberg, the messianic dream of perfection will not be realized by divine fiat, but by "improving this world, one step at a time."

These understandings of God, humans, and the world are expressed through the Torah and lived-out by the Jewish people through the Holy days and the Halakhah. In this view, Torah is that divine teaching which stands as "the constitution of the ongoing relationship of God and the Jewish people."

This expanded view/articulation of higher values help us to search for YHWHs presence in the secular Realms of Life, some peeps call this: 'Holy Secularism'.

The Covenant is essentially a Divine, Loving, Pedagogic process. As Humans become more competent, YHWH invites them to take up a more active role in the Task of Tikkun Olam/World to Come, as Co-Creators.

The lay people of YHWH/God play a more influential role in discerning Yahwehs purpose and in carrying out His Divine Mandates.

Later, ensuing Historical events reshape understandings of earlier Teachings.

Summarized

We=ALL Living things-creatures-sustained and Nurtured by Yahweh-will fill the World with Life.

* We will reshape the Historical Reality, the Flesh & Blood world we inhabit, to sustain that Life at the highest possible level.

* Life will multiply and triumph Quantitatively over all its enemies; including Entropy, Death, and Disorder.

* Life will equally triumph Qualitatively.

* All of Lifes’ capacities/potentials will be developed fully and realized.

* When Life blossoms to its fullest capacity that treats all Life, especially Human Life-the most developed form-and sustains it with the highest and fullest respect that it deserves, then Life will be in harmony with existence and deeply related to Yahweh, its Source and Sustainer(Natural Laws)

* This is the Jews Story, and by default; the Christians/Xns.

* Telling the Story of Creation is the Jews 'Witness'. The present evidentiary Facts contradict the Narrative fairly substantialy.

* Yet, This Story of Creation is shared by Jews and Christians

* This Story leads Humans to see existence as best they can, from a Cosmic Perspective-Sub Specie Aeternitatis.

* From that Vantage Point there are Three Grand Movements in the unfolding Pattern of the Cosmos

1: The World is moving from Chaos to Order. From the Big Bang, with no Laws of Nature to the regularity of the Life sustaining Laws of Nature.

2: The World is moving from Non-Life to Life. From a State in which no life existed to the emergence of Life. From one cell, untold replications, life has grown Quantitatively, and developed Qualitatively. It has luxuriated and spread into a vast range of forms over and through a variety of sustaining conditions/environments.

* The declaration that Life is growing, moving from non-life to life is counter-intuitive.
Death & Entropy refute that contention.

The 'Key' is YHWH/God-The Hidden, Infinite Source of Life with limitless Goodness, Love and Power that sustains Life and Nurtures every possible Form of Life into Being.

* YHWH, the Divine Source evokes the Third Grand Movement of the Cosmos

3: Life is growing ever more to resemble its Ground: YHWH

Life moves from being less to becoming more and more like Yahweh. The highest form of Life, the Human Being, represents the High Point reached thus far.

In Human Form, life so resembles its Maker that it is called; Biblically; 'The Image of God'

* This emergence of "The Image of God" is the Turning Point in Cosmic History according to Jews & Christians.

Up to that point Life has been sworn to 'Be Fruitful & Multiply' (maximizing reproductive success) through a built-in control Programme-A 'Selfish Gene'- that drives the process.

* The 'Image of God' Consciousness is so much like YHWHs that Humans are able to 'grasp' this overall pattern of which we, ourselves are part, and to join voluntarily in its realization.

* Similarly, the Human 'Image of YHWH/God has a capacity to Love ALL their fellow creatures and every aspect of the Universe, as well as the Maker of it all and the Beauty of the Plan.

* Once Humans understand and embrace this understanding, they will lovingly identify with and willingly participate in the process of Perfection.

* YHWH has invited us, as Humans, The 'Image of God', to enter into a Covenantal Partnership, committed to Love, to join fully in perfecting the Universe.

Tikkun Olam

* The People of Israel joyfully acknowledge that YHWHs first Covenant, the Noahide Covenant, never superseded, is made with ALL Humanity, not exclusively with Jews and/or Christians alone.

* It is made with ALL Sentient Beings.

* ALL Beings are called to recognize and participate in Natures Patterns.

* To accept Limits.

* To Direct their choices and actions in favour of Life.

* To join in working for Order against Chaos.

* We are ALL CHOSEN to become part of the movement from Non-Life to Life.

* We are commanded to increase Life and make it grow ever more like its Maker.


* The purpose of the Religious way of life is to create the nurturing ambience of memory and experience, of relationships and actions that sustain Human growth and turns it towards Yahweh.

* Being in the 'Image of God/YHWH brings with it more God like capacities. It bestows intrinsic Dignity, a climatic extension of that respect to which all of life is entitled.

* The People of Israel hold these Truths to be self-evident: That ALL Humans are created in 'The Image of YHWH/God; and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, among which are:

* Infinite Value

* Equality

* Uniqueness.

These are Birthrights of every Son & Daughter of Yahweh

The Sinai Event was the ultimate Social Engineering event.

The Torah is the first, and oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet/ Alphabet........this alters the hegemony of the Brain to being left hemispherical centric=Abstract, linear and sequential. the ground for Theoretical Science....


THE UNIVERSAL DESIRE FOR CLOSENESS TO God...AND THE SECRET OF THE SABBATH by Rabbi Chaim Richman

The following teaching from the riches of the Oral Tradition is about a level of understanding the Sabbath which is relevant to Jews and non-Jews alike. It is based on a teaching by Rabbi Chaim ben Atar (1746-1793), known as "the holy Light of Life," based on the title of his most famous work.

I. The World Intuitively Pines for G-d
Man - The Centerpiece of Creation
The created world can be divided into four basic categories: the inanimate, plant, animal, and 'speaking' life - man. Man, the highest level of creation, is the only creature endowed with the capability of speech, and this is what singles him out as a completely separate category - he has the greatest potential to develop a relationship with his Creator. He is the center of creation and its purpose and crowning achievement. For this reason, he was created last, and introduced into the Garden... to enable him to enter into a complete world, ready for him, furnished and equipped in advance to house its illustrious occupant.

Every Level of Creation Possesses a Soul
Man is followed by the members of the animal kingdom. Next in line comes the plant kingdom, and finally, inanimate creation - the lowest level of creation, as exemplified by stone. Even stone, the Torah teaches, possesses some degree of life-force, however weak. For it is impossible for something which the Holy One has created to be incapable of recognizing Him. Therefore, commensurate to that degree of life-force, awareness of the Divine could be said to exist within it...

Desire for Closeness to G-d... The Prime Mover
And so the soul, the essence, of every creature, each according to its level of understanding, has some inkling of the greatness of the Creator, and actually carries on a relationship with Him. This soul is constantly driven with endless passion to come closer to the source of all life, the Great and Perfect Light of the L-rd... how much more so should this be true among the higher, more spiritual elements of creation who understand to some extent what it means to 'cling' to the light of the living G-d.

All of Creation is United in the Desire for Closeness to G-d
Herein lies one of the greatest secrets of creation...

All life on earth... and even the actual physical elements that comprise the planet itself - the entire world as one, including every level of creation, from the lowest level of the inanimate - stones and earth, to the highest and most intelligent life-form, man himself; an endless pageant which spans every creature, plant and animal - all are constantly and inexorably united by an all-consuming, burning desire for G-d. This is the vital force which drives the world; this desire is the power which fuels the universe... it reverberates within the entire life-force, and the whole globe, like a man beating with one heart, knows on the deepest level with absolute clarity that there is nothing as sweet, desirable, and sustaining as 'Dveykut' - the ability to 'cling' close to the light of the Creator. This is the purpose of life itself, and on the deepest collective intuitive level, all are aware that nothing else is worth living for. This longing is itself the vital life-force of everything, and the entire world draws from it at once. In other words, this longing for G-d is what fuels the world to go on.

Because G-d is the Creator of all existence, He maintains an intimate link with each and every creature, regardless of its spiritual capacity. Obviously not all of creation is equal in spiritual sensitivity. Regardless of this, that link of intimate knowledge still exists, according to its degree of conciousness and development.

Three Revolutionary Innovations in Human History took place at Mount Sinai.

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism

2: Universal Codified Law

3: An Alephbet 1,800 BCE

Abstract Ethical Monotheism rather than Polytheism, Rule of Law for All rather than the Divine Rights of Kings or Queens and an Aleph/Bet, less than thirty characters that replaced Iconographs/Ideograms and Hieroglyphs, enhancing Literacy amongst the masses.

The abstraction of all three innovations were mutually reinforcing.

YHWH/God proclaimed that there exists a Codex of morality that stands above Human intercourse.

The 10 Commandments applied universally to everyone. no King, Pharoah, or Potentate was above the Law.

Refutes the rubric that 'Might makes Right'.

YHWH/God expected all His Chosen People TO READ what He inspired to be written.

The Pentateuch is the oldest Religious Book written in an Alephbet-Alphabet. Prior books were written in Cuneiform, Hieroglyphs etc......

YHWH forbade anyone from visualizing Him. No Images. No Idolatry.

He sanctioned only the written word.

This promulgates equality and openness.

An overarching Theme of the Pentateuch, and ensuing Books of the Bible is: Justice for all.

A distinguishing feature of the Pentateuch from other belief systems of the Time is its dominating Theme of: Righteousness,

Living a pious life and obeying written law was/is more important than winning Battles, honouring the King, or sacrificing to a local god.

Justice for all was a unique community standard in an era when the dominant principle was a raised and clenched fist.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, the Exodus begins with the people shackled slaves.

Unlike other ANE Sagas, Yahweh 'Chose' the people rather than the people choosing their god.
This rediscovery allows each to uncover and affirm each others’ role in the Divine Plan. The Kingdom of Yahweh is advanced and comes closer.

'You are my witnesses says YHWH/God' Isaiah 43:10
The People of Israel are YHWHs Servants, 'Chosen' to witness to the loving Creator and the Divine Plan for Humanity and the Cosmos.

The People of Israel = not just the Israelis, or Jews, but to all who affirm that Yahweh has made a valid Covenant with Abraham and his descendants and all who take up the task of World Redemption so that the covenant can be fulfilled.

For that is the purpose of making the covenant.

Xns and Muslims are recognized as Abrahams children when they purge themselves of Supersessionist claims and hatred of Jews.

To be True to its Witness, the People of Israel tell 3 Stories to the World, the rest of Humanity, in the presence of Yahweh and in the presence of their fellow Humans.

1: They tell the Story of Creation, the Divine Vision of an intended perfect World. Jew & Xn stake their existence that this World will come to be.

2: The Story of the Covenant, the process operating between a Divine-Human partnership whereby our imperfect World will be brought back to that state of Perfection.

3: The Story of Redemption-sometimes called: 'The End of Days'-'The Messiah Story'-which is the culmination and realization of the process.

At the end, Holistic perfection will be achieved.
Peace between Humans.

Between Humans and all the rest of Life, between all Life and Nature itself, and between all of the above and Yahweh.

Three Stories add up to one comprehensive Story: The Triumph of Life

Before Monotheism there had never been Religious Warfare.

The Polytheistic Cultures were live and let live about other culture Deities and often borrowed and share aspects.

The Polytheistic Deities were usually Local Deities, not Universe/Worldwide.

Polytheist had National gods, Local gods, family gods and personal gods, even their pet animals had gods.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism was a Major Advance along the road to Enlightenment, but came at a high cost.

Abstract Ethical Monotheism encouraged people to think in new ways. An Abstract Ethical Monotheistic Creator Being not tied to a concrete Image/Picture is a very Abstract Concept..

Abstraction is a crucial component of Logical Reasoning and its use can liberate people from superstition.

Devotion to an Abstract Deity has a Heavy price.

If everyone agrees there is only one, true, Living Creator Being, and different groups conceive of it in different ways, then whose perception of that Deity is the correct one?

Examine each groups’ values and praxis.

Different perceptions have inspired some groups to wage war and engage in forced conversions.

This never occurred in Polytheistic Cultures.

They had many wars but for the usual mundane reasons, Land, Treasure, Women, Power over others for the sake of Power alone, but they never waged Religious War.

One effect of an Alphabetic based Abstract Ethical Monotheism is the brain is using a new abstract, linear, sequential, and reductionist means of communication which moves people who learn it and use it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode, rather than the usual Pictographic, Feminine Right Brain Mode.

The Aleph/Alphabet subliminally coaxes users to be intolerant of other Iconic Systems of Beliefs.

This is illuminated in the Ten Commandments.

As stated before, Judaism is the first religion to be based upon universal literacy, the written word.

When Moses came down from his meet and greet with YHWH on the mountain, the multitude had fashioned an Idol/Golden Calf, this so upset Moses he dropped the two stone Tablets upon which YHWH/God had written the ten commandments.


Allegorically: In the first confrontation between Image and Written Word, both were destroyed.

As the story goes, Moses returned to the Mountain Top and Yahweh provided him with another set.

The 10 Commandments; The first four Commandments are for the Recognition and service/Worship of YHWH/God, the remaining six focus on our fellow humans, loving and serving them.

The Commandment to Honour Both Father and Mother elevates and recognizes the importance and status of Women in the Family Group.

Love your neighbour is not one of the Ten but appears in the Torah/Instruction, Leviticus 19:18.

The last six commandments are not unusual, and found in other Codices of Laws, The First four Commandments are Unique.

Each one of the first four commandments encourages Alphabetic Literacy by rejecting the Right Brains way of 'knowing'.

One effect of a new, abstract, linear, sequential and reductionist means of communication moves people who learn it into a Left Brain, Masculine Mode.

Social Engineering.

The Ethics they embody are more sophisticated than other contemporary Ancient Near East Cultures.

The First Commandment:

20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3 Thou shall have no other elohim before me.

In one fell swoop demoted all other elohim/gods & goddesses to nothings.

Nothing personal, it was business.

The Meta-Message of the First Commandment is that Yahweh is the Master of the Universe, He is self-existent, and all other elohim/gods & goddesses are created beings, subservient to Him.

Psalm 82

82:1 Yahweh stands in the congregation of El; he judges among the elohim.

82:2 How long will you judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6 I have said, You are elohim; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O Yahweh, judge the earth: for thou shall inherit all nations.

All of Yahwehs’ Titles are masculine.

The First Commandment is a radical break with the Hebrews past environment. Moses and the Hebrews had left Egypt which was Polytheistic, alot of gods and goddesses worship.

Yahweh declares there is no worship of other gods or goddesses.

Perhaps the most radical sentence ever written.

The Second Commandment:

20:4 Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I; Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous Elohim, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

No Graven Images, Icons or Idols, Statues.

Learning to think without Images is indispensable to Alphabetic Literacy. The Power formerly rendered to Images/Pictures is now transferred to the written word.

Make no Graven Images is a ban/restraint on Right Brain Pattern Recognition.

The Third Commandment:

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Do not use Yahwehs Name vainly, with Malintent. Again; Left Brain.

Yahwehs first instruction to adam isto Name all the critters. Through Naming, Adam attains dominion over all the Earth. Naming confers meaning and order, moving Life from Chaos to Order.

To Name is to know, to know is to control. Order out of Chaos.

The Fourth Commandment:

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11 For in six days made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Seven Days are not a Natural Break Point in any of Earths Major Natural Rhythmic Cycles-Lunar-Solar, except the Quarter Moon.

This facilitates the learning of Arithmetic.

Leviticus 25:3-10 is about the Jubilee Years, the 50th,

No other Ancient Near East culture at that time had instructed the general population to compute complex time periods, this had formerly been the domain of the Priestly Castes.

The Time Commandment lays the foundation for the concept of Justice, a well developed sense of Linear Time is necessary to conceive of Punishment delayed and Rewards postponed.

Non-Literate Cultures are not as pre-occupied with the notion/concept of Justice as the Literate, because they do not conceive of time only as linear.

Non-Literate Societies tend to think of death as a passage to another World, not as a Day in Court.

Alphabets stretch out the sense of Time and make possible the awareness of the possibility of a retribution Time in the distant future.

A Judgement Day only occurs in Literate Cultures.

Alphabet Literate Cultures became aware of writing History in a Linear, Chronological sequencing of Events.

The fourth Commandments Mechanical/Sociological ramifications is instructing people to be aware of Passing Time.

This was the advent of the seven day week, and a day off every week.

A day off for ALL Humans, Free and Bond, and ALL Beasts of Burden one day a week and the Farmland to lay fallow every seven years to rejuvinate the enzymes in the ground.

This led to Sundials, waterclocks, Pendulums, Escape Mechanisms, Cogs, Gears, Calenders.

Time is a key function of the Left Brain.

Each of the First Four Commandments trains people in the ability to: Think Abstractly, linearly and sequentially.

Collectively, they produce a Mindset that enhances the use and facility of Alphabetic Literacy.

This Technology welded the small group into a cohesive and coherent Nation/Culture.

What occurred at/in Sinai was unique, the Authority of the Written Word superseded the authority of the Image.

Reiterating the Revolutionary Innovations that occurred at Mount Sinai:

1: Abstract Ethical Monotheism emerged,

2:Universal Codified Laws establishing Moral Ethics

3: The Alephbet-Proto Alphabet emerged. The Hebrews reduced thosands of Images/Hieroglyphs/Petroglyphs/Ideograms/Pictograms into two dozen Characters, enabling Universal Literacy

For the first time ever, Religion demanded the follower be Literate. It is Commanded the Fathers obtain Scrolls of the Torah and teach them to their children.

Moses Commanded; Thou shall read the Law before all Israel Deut-31:10,11

The Reading of the Torah remains the most sacred obligation of every Jew.

Yahweh was concerned, unlike other gods, about the actions of everyone of His people.

Yahweh actually cares.

If someone was cheating/exploiting widows and orphans, mistreating strangers and slaves.etc.......YHWH knew and became wrathful.

The polytheistic gods did not.

Yahweh in His written Laws provided preventive Medicine, unknown to Egypt and Mesopotamia.

He explicitly spelled out in excruciating detail and minutia exactly what He expected from each and every Israelite.

Each Israelite established a personal relationship with Yahweh.

All of Yahwehs Laws were written down and everybody knew them.

It was an absolute Judaic condition that every male was literate.

Ignorance of the Law was no defence.

The Hebrews were the first culture to universally embrace Alphabetic writing, the Torah is the first/oldest Religious Book written in an Alphabet.

The 10 Commandments were transmitted in a written Alephbetic form; Paleo-Hebrew.

Abstract letters/grammatical sequence/uniconsonantal phenomes.

The Alephbet/Alphabet introduced and enabled the possibility of Universal Literacy

So once upon a time in the Sinai Desert a radical new communication technology emerged that would forever change cultural perceptions and that the first people to utilize it would introduce fundamental principles and features underpinning Western Civilisation.

Historical Data: Proto-Sinaitic Alephbet=precursor of the Alphabet.

Discovered by Sir William Flinders Petrie, very early 20th century. Dated to: 1,800 BCE

Egyptian Coptic 2,000 years later/after

Tell el Armana Cache Phoenician 1,450 BCE letters from Canaanite Leaders to Akhenaton were scribed in Cuneiform

Akkadian Cuneiform in usage after Sumerian Conquest.

An amazing vortex of Science and History occurred in the Sinai that the worlds’ oldest alphabet was found where the Hebrew Nation had their seminal experience.

Yet another Unique Concept brought forth at Mount Sinai is the Concept of Free Will.

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Babylon, Egypt etc......humans 'believed their fate, destiny was in the hands of the gods.

The Sinaitic Covenant convinced the Israelites that every decision was theirs to make: Choose Life or Choose Death.

The choice between Right and Wrong was upon the individual. This beget the concept of Guilt, 'Guilty Conscious'; an internal Quality Control.

Moral Relativists may consider this an ambiguous area, but is it really?


Bottom Line of what occurred at Sinai, those many years ago, the Power that once had been given to pictures was transferred to written words.

The Power of the Right Brain was Transferred to the Left Brain.

The Alephbet/Alphabet is the Bibles Eminence Grise-The unsuspected power.



Superorganisms/memes compete, as one Entelechy rises, others fall.

Of all the Ancient Near East Superorganisms/Memes, only the Jews have survivied.

Alphabetic Literacy profoundly reconfigured the relationship between the Hebrews and their Deity and between the Hebrews and their neighbours. The other ANE cultures.

The Jews have an unshakable faith.

The Religious beliefs of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Hittites, Hyskos, Hurrians, Cretans, Mittani, Assyrians, Persians, Canaanites, Ugarites, Akkadians, Egyptians, Greeks, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Roman Belief Systems have diminished greatly and most have disappeared.
The Hebrew Faith has withstood the Viscitudes of times, surviving catastrophes that should have extinguished them.
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Oh, and then there's that bit about, showing that what I do
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