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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:04 am

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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:04 am

Nazism and the New Age



Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established !

Thou becamest a pillar of patience and didst emulate the Forefathers,
O righteous one: Job in his sufferings, Joseph in temptations, and
the life of the bodiless while in the body
“IF YOU ARE AFRAID, LEAVE”
“IF YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN, WITHDRAW”
“IF YOU CANNOT COPE, RENOUNCE”
“YOU MUST DIE IN VICES, TO BE BORN IN VIRTUES!”
“IF MERE CURIOSITY HAS BROUGHT YOU HERE, LEAVE!”
“KNOW THYSELF!”
“DUST YOU ARE AND, AGAIN, DUST YOU SHALL BECOME!”
“TO DIE, YOU WERE BORN!”
“TO BETTER EMPLOY YOUR LIFE, THINK OF DEATH!”
“IF AVARICE GUIDES YOU, GO AWAY!”
"IF YOU PAY HOMAGE TO HUMAN DISTINCTIONS, LEAVE, FOR HERE WE KNOW THEM NOT!”
“IF YOU FEAR TO BE REPRIMENDED OVER YOUR DEFECTS, DO NOT PROCEED!”
“IF YOU LIE, YOU SHALL BE EXPOSED!”
“IF YOU ARE AFRAID, WITHDRAW!”



Nazism and the New Age

http://philologos.org/__eb-trs/naF.htm

...............While most Jews are sure that Hitler represented the Christian community, his associates knew better. In this section we see not only that Hitler rejected Christianity, but that there is also ample research showing that Hitler founded far more than a political regime - the Third Reich was an occult-based religious movement to usher in the same New Age examined in this series. [For documentation besides the Angeberts, see also D. Sklar, _The Nazis and the Occult_; Joseph Carr, _The Twisted Cross_; Robert G.L. Waite, _The Psychopathic God - Adolf Hitler_; Gerald Suster, _Adolf Hitler, The Occult Messiah_; Trevor Ravenscroft, _The Spear of Destiny_.]
The Nazi President of the Danzig Senate, Hermann Rauschning (who defected to the Allies and in 1939 wrote the book quoted above), recorded statements made by Hitler which are unintelligible except from a NA orientation. [The fact that Rauschning included quotes which he admitted he did not understand only adds to the credibility of his testimony, for these often turn out to be occultic references of the kind meant to be understood by fellow-initiates alone............................................


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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:05 am

McKallisti Of The Sods wrote:
Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established !

Thou becamest a pillar of patience and didst emulate the Forefathers,
O righteous one: Job in his sufferings, Joseph in temptations, and
the life of the bodiless while in the body
“IF YOU ARE AFRAID, LEAVE”
“IF YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN, WITHDRAW”
“IF YOU CANNOT COPE, RENOUNCE”
“YOU MUST DIE IN VICES, TO BE BORN IN VIRTUES!”
“IF MERE CURIOSITY HAS BROUGHT YOU HERE, LEAVE!”
“KNOW THYSELF!”
“DUST YOU ARE AND, AGAIN, DUST YOU SHALL BECOME!”
“TO DIE, YOU WERE BORN!”
“TO BETTER EMPLOY YOUR LIFE, THINK OF DEATH!”
“IF AVARICE GUIDES YOU, GO AWAY!”
"IF YOU PAY HOMAGE TO HUMAN DISTINCTIONS, LEAVE, FOR HERE WE KNOW THEM NOT!”
“IF YOU FEAR TO BE REPRIMENDED OVER YOUR DEFECTS, DO NOT PROCEED!”
“IF YOU LIE, YOU SHALL BE EXPOSED!”
“IF YOU ARE AFRAID, WITHDRAW!”



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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:06 am

K-Federino wrote:she don't eat meat but she sure like the bone

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Post  MoMo on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:07 am

A Report On Nazism in the New Age Movement
Introduction


http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?12369-A-Report-On-Nazism-in-the-New-Age-Movement


New Age Religion is based on a blend of every religious and occult system in the world. It rejects only Torah-based Judaism and early (pre-Constantine, pre-Gnostic, Judaic) Christianity. This blend is known as "The Ancient Wisdom and is outlined in a 19th-century Western system called "Theosophy". New Age Books are the primary source of New Age teachings.

The most prominent among them and the ones used in almost all New Age circles are:

Reappearance of the Christ, Externalization of the Hierarchy, The Rays and the Initiations, Education in the New Age, The Problems of Humanity, Masters of Wisdom. All these books were written by New Age leader and occultist Alice Bailey.

The Secret Doctrine and Isis Unveiled by Helena Blavatsky (The founder of Theosophy)

Revelation: the Birth of a New Age David Spangler (Lorian Association)

The Open Conspiracy, Blueprints for a World Revolution by H.G. Wells.

The New Genesis: Shaping a Global Spirituality by Robert Muller (former UN assistant general secretary).

The Aquarian Gospel. ( A Gnostic work)


The Biological Origins of Man

In 1905, Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels, a member of the Nazi party in Germany, published a magazine called Ostara named after the Teutonic God of Beauty. The magazine was filled with occult teachings and beliefs. The following serves as his explanation for the evolution of mankind.

The first race to evolve on Earth was the Astral race, a race of pure spirit, the purest form of existence.
The second race was known as the Hyperborean race. They used to live on a now vanished continent in the northern ocean
The third race was called the Lemurians, who fell because of interbreeding with animals.
The fourth race was known as the Atlantean’s who possessed psychic powers and lived in gigantic cities. They were destroyed by a great flood.
The fifth race was known as the “Race of Hope, the founders of the ancient Greece culture, and they soon would rise to the pinnacle of spirituality, to the form of the Aryan.

Origins of Man in the New Age

The New Age movement provides the same explanation for the genesis of mankind, although, not in the same order. The 1st root race in the New Age is stated as Lemuria, and the 2nd Atlantean. Each root-race goes through stages which produce "subraces", which act as stair-steps upward toward the next race in which mankind acquires new attributes and abilities. According to Alice Bailey, these changes take place every 2000 years, and are reflected in the astrological signs. In order to reach each new subrace, the highest form of mankind must make a collective "quantum leap" across an evolutionary gap; other inferior strains are left behind and eventually die out as the newly empowered root takes over. The new subrace is considered literally a new, "mutated" species of man. This species possess a high level of human consciousness and has attained godhood. When humanity is ready to make a leap to the next subrace, a new age will begin. Astrologically, this is called the Age of Aquarius.

The old age being replaced is called the Age of Pisces, which ushered in Christianity. The Jews, who refused to leave their "Age of Aries" (the time of the Torah) to enter the Age of Pisces, (to merge with Christianity) are doubly behind in their evolutionary development (Bailey, _Reappearance of the Christ_, p.81) and as a result, double trouble is caused by the lingering influence the Jewish religion has on society.

The evolutionary process occurs in three different ways:

Reincarnation- Each soul returning many times to different bodies.

Karma- A Hindu term which means life contains rewards or punishments for good or bad deeds done in previous or present lives. This is called the cosmic law of nature. People have to pay for their ancestors mistakes as well as their own. Bailey called the Holocaust the working out of Jewish Karma. As Bailey/DK wrote in 1949: "Today the law [of racial karma] is working, and the Jews are paying the price, factually and symbolically. They regard themselves as the chosen people. It is Humanity which is the chosen people. They demand the so-called restitution of Palestine, wresting it away from those who have inhabited it for many centuries." Bailey continues: "They have never yet faced candidly and honestly (as a race) the problem of why the many nations, from the time of the Egyptians, have neither liked nor wanted them. The evil karma of the Jew today is intended to end his isolation, to bring him to the point of renouncing a nationality that has a tendency to be somewhat parasitic within the boundaries of other nations." (_Esoteric Healing_, p.263ff)

Eugenics- Improving the race through breeding. The success of the next quantum leap to a new subrace is jeopardized when people with defects interbreed with healthy ones. The outer defects such as signs of negative karma make it easier to identify the spiritually "inferior" strains of humanity which endanger human progress. They either have to be strictly segregated from contact with superior strains of humanity or their life spans have to be cut short by denying them reproduction. According to the New Age, Jews defy laws of human evolution: because they refuse to die out and give way to the "superior root".

Balance with the Earth -While man is certainly obligated to take better care of the planet's resources, in the NA value system the Earth does not exist to serve and sustain man; nor is man, for all his uniqueness in nature, to be regarded as superior to nature in any way. Both concepts, derived from Judaism, are arrogant and wrong. Mankind is not to overburden mother earth in any way. According to NA philosophy, the primary way man is a burden on nature is through over population.

The NA borrows the term "survival of the fittest", also known as "social Darwinism". This is important is order to make the leap to a new subrace. Therefore those seen fit are the ones who have no genetic defects and have paid their karma in full. Bailey said "When humanity has solved the Jewish problem .Racial fusion will then be possible and then there will be peace on earth." (Alice Bailey, _Externalisation_ II, p.77). The two purging processes - natural disasters and organized "population assistance" programs driven by eugenicist philosophy - help the evolutionary progress by purging the human race of residue from inferior races, which will increase the "purity of the root stock" as all "natural selection" tends to do

Human evolution is now on hold until the Jews disappear as a group. When Jews forget that they are Jews, "we shall see a very different world." (_The Destiny of Nations_ p.34-35). The NA does not distinguish between religious and secular Jews. "What I say here has no specific reference to any individual; I am considering the world problem, centering around the Jews as a whole." (_Externalisation_ II, p.74, emphasis mine) And lest we try to belittle the effect of the Jews by noting other migrating peoples in history, the "Tibetan Master" emphasizes: "There is no other problem like it in the world today." (_Humanity_ p.103) The Jews are "the problem child within the family of nations." (p.104)

The New Age Apocalypse

According to the New Age Movement Christ or Maitreya will appear physically in the not to distant future. The hierarchy will control world affairs through this man. . (Alice Bailey, _Externalisation_, p.570.)


The Hierarchy Plan for the Jews and Judaism

The "Tibetan Master" DK also known as Alice Bailey spirit guide indicates The present world faiths must return to their early simplicity, and orthodox Judaism, with its deep seated hate, must slowly disappear; all must be changed in preparation for the revelation which Christ [Maitreya] will bring." (_Externalisation_ IV, p.543)

The Rainbow Bridge

The New Age believes in a planetary rainbow bridge", created by the upward thrust of spiritual/mental energies from humanity at one end and the downward response of the Hierarchy at the other, which will eventually "unite Humanity and the Hierarchy". (fully dissected in Bailey's _Education in the New Age_ chap.) . Initiates into the New Age movement have to work towards building this bridge in order to hasten the Hierarchy’s appearance here on earth. When Maiterya comes everyone will be expected to attain an "altered state of consciousness" or "Luciferic initiation" by submission to Lucifer as the leading divinity representing the Logos. David Spangler calls "the angel of man's evolution" (_Reflections on the Christ_, p.37), a journey to "godhood" which includes a personal experience of the "knowledge of good and evil NA'ers confirm that this knowledge is what Lucifer offered to Eve in the Garden, and it's being offered again today.

Foster Bailey (husband of Alice Bailey) made it clear that the NA initiation would not only be mandatory but would create a caste system: "[Young and old alike] will have to live with the New Age standards. Those who do not will end up as irreconcilable outcasts." (_Things to Come_, p.39) Those who cannot surrender (having no souls), or who will not (not sufficiently developed in their spiritual journey), will simply be "sent on to their next life" in a global "cleansing action" (Alice Bailey, _The Rays and the Initiations_ p.754-755). Murder will not be a crime here, due to NA beliefs in reincarnation and karma. Reply With Quote .
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Guest The Plan for Christianity

Are Jews the only targets of the new Age Movement? Both Bailey and Blavatsky believed in an earlier, Judaica-free Christianity which at some later point was "corrupted" by Jewish missionaries, resulting in the form we know today. The NA employs Gnostic tools time and time again. Nazi Germany presented the German people with a pamphlet called “positive Christianity", which took away the Old Testament and repackaged the New Testament with Gnostic symbolism. The one esoteric legend in particular which captivated the Nazis was the Quest for the Holy Grail. While popular mythology presents the Grail as the cup Jesus Christ used at his last supper, occult groups dismiss this materialistic interpretation as a "blind" to preserve for initiates the Grail's true meaning: the quest for the divine bloodline or racial purity (See _Holy Blood, Holy Grail_, Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh & Henry Lincoln), which would bring with it supermortal Knowledge and immortality. Alternately, the Grail was defined in Gnostic symbolic style as the "philosopher's stone", the "third eye" or the spiritual "crown" of Lucifer which fell from his forehead when he lost his place in heaven (Angeberts, p.264 note 14). In real terms, that "seeing eye" is the Knowledge of self-as-god which Lucifer exhibited, and which he offered mankind in the Garden of Eden. The racially inherited god-consciousness idea appears in the Gnostic teaching of a divine lineage descended from Jesus Christ (not a Jew but a Gnostic initiate) who didn't actually die on the cross, and who achieved a singular level of Aryan racial purity and corresponding god-consciousness Blavatsky agreed that the Gnostics "were right in regarding the Jewish God as belonging to a class of lower, material and not very holy denizens of the invisible world." (quoted in Sklar, p.144) In Blavatsky's understanding, "only angels of a low hierarchy" could have created "those wretched races, in a spiritual and moral sense, which grace our globe. The "spiritual wretchedness" is the Jewish "Old Testament", rejected by Gnostics as evil, which teaches that the Creator of heaven and earth is the Most High God. Since materialism is evil, and "Jehovah" created the physical world, He must be evil as well: not merely a usurper of the title "God", but in fact Satan. The Jews who persist in spreading their teachings (in their Bible) are the tools of Satan, and their influence in the world is deadly to human souls. Hitler reiterated this Gnostic doctrine: "The Jew is the anti-man, the creature of another god. He must have come from another root of the human race." (Sklar, p.146) Hitler was also known for his severely simple lifestyle, voluntarily shunning material pleasures, physical appetites and a meat diet - all classic Gnostic elements of "purification from the world".
Both NA and Nazism clearly borrowed from the Zoroastrian teaching (originating in Persia in the 6th c. BCE and experiencing a comeback through NA endorsement) and the Cathars both of whom taught that Moses was an evil magician who received his law from "the god of Darkness", and that this "Devil caused the Deluge". (Angeberts, p.262 notes 24, 25)

The Plan for the New Age

It is only after this "evil" religion of Judaism is neutralized that the Plan for the Universal "World Religion" can proceed: "This second group [of World Servers] will implement this new [universal] religion. By the time they come into control the old theological activities will have been completely broken; Judaism will be fast disappearing." Bailey continues with other interesting predictions of the state of world religions at that point: "Buddhism will be spreading and becoming increasing [sic] dogmatic; Christianity will be in a state of chaotic division and upheavals." (_Externalisation_, p.573) [If the Hierarchy's directive is followed, we can expect Buddhism to eventually break with its current image of gentle tolerance for all faiths, and even express itself more in line with the antisemitic tone of the famous Zen Buddhist Master Haku'un Yasutani, teacher of several American Zen leaders.

All efforts to bring both secular and traditional Jews, diaspora and Israeli Jews alike, over to NA doctrine have but one goal, judging by NA sources. It is not in order to "liberate" Jews from their identity so as to receive them into the spiritual family of Man As we have seen, the Jews as a group are flatly considered unsuitable material for the New Age. The goal of converting Jews is to make them voluntarily accept the "cleansing action" which is to remove them from this "physical plane of existence".

In accordance with Alice Bailey's analysis on the Holocaust, other NA spokesmen continue to preach that the Jews always bring on their own suffering. In other contexts (such as Christian denunciation of the 'Christ-killers') this is highly offensive to any Jew. But after accepting the twin NA concepts of reincarnation and some form of "karma" it will begin to sound logical that if Jews are being repeatedly singled out for suffering and untimely death, they as a group must indeed owe some collective karmic debt. The NAers are confident that Jews who accept the karmic view of suffering will also accept the karmic requirement of passive submission to whatever befalls themselves and their loved ones - especially if appropriate spirits of their "luminaries" appear to them with promises of a favorable future life as a reward for voluntary submission. Such visitations will be credited by NA teachers to the activity of Maitreya - his merciful contribution to help ease the passage of the Jewish race from this dimension.
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Post  daddlepoms on Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:34 pm

man meets a woman on the street, she comlpiments him on his attire & well to do. he tells her he has a friend who sells realaste & that he invests & gets quite a hefty sum back. she inquires, & he says if you want just give me twenty dollars & my friend is a good talker, next day the ma gives her a 1000 back & her eyes widen. He says, that easy. so she thinks about getting rid of her house to perhapd ull make 50 times like she'd buefore,' onlly she's nervous, the next day the man sees her & he says hi & she walks him to her bank too give him all her ass ets & he leaves. She gets nervous as she makes a room at the hostel. she walks over to the burger joint & has some fries & a double grade A texas, she looks for the man, nothing. she's homeless & applies for assistance but is refused cuz of her assetst. she goes to the local detachment to file a complaint & talk to the man at the desk & he says wait I'll get the detective, & when she sees the detective fear grips her face & she trembles, she with quivers leafs
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Post  MoMo on Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:11 pm

yeah..daveys new code word is: Rothschild Zionists.....he is an insult to intelligence and decency............
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Post  mugglez on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:06 pm

ecofascism?

http://gridlock.gn.apc.org/ecofasc.htm

The issue of NewAgeFascism has recently been placed under the spotlight by various concerned parties, the most notable of these have been Open Eye Magazine (who have done much valuable work in exposing David Icke - more of this later) and a new book called "Ecofascism - Lessons from the German Experience". Whilst not being the greatest work ever published (it's too simplistic/sparse and certain parts display a suspiciously unobjective admiration for Murray Bookchin - further investigation revealed that one of the authors just happens to be his wife...) it provides an introduction to a serious and previously neglected issue.

Ecofascism can be loosely defined as the mixing of concepts such as organic farming, vegetarianism and nature worship with racism and and nationalism; this mixture is not new - first appearing in nineteenth century Germany. "New Age" nazism (currently mainly personified by David Icke) uses some "green" ideas in conjunction with conspiricist theories and derivations from various pseudo-occult traditions, most notably Theosophy.

The green movement in this country is large and extremely diverse, incorporating many different groups and factions ranging from Direct Activists to FoE/Greenpeace/Green Party to a variety of New Age/mystical types - a very wide range of ideas, theories and practices come under the general heading of "green". There are no set divides betwen the various groupings and a certain degree of crossover exists.

It would be safe to say that the most important of the above - the direct action eco-movement, i.e "Earth First!" has to its credit now probably developed a strong enough commitment to social justice and genuinely libertarian and anti-authoritarian ideas and acivities for it not to be susceptible to Ecofascism. Exceptions to this may be some mystical greens (see below). There are however a number of other petty authoritarian factions within the Direct Action movement who don't quite deserve the label of fascist; these include the "vegan police" and ideological pacifists both of whose problems are self-explanatory.

It is however within the "New Age" movement that fascism is the biggest problem. Fascist tendencies have always been present within it but due to the naivety of many of its adherents these have gone largely unchallenged/noticed. A prime example of this is the enduring popularity of Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposophy in alternative circles in this country as well as in Germany and America. This ideology mixes bizarre racialist spiritual theory (which somewhat unsurprisingly concludes that European whites are at the summit of the heirarchical scale of humanity) with concepts such as "biodynamic farming", a form of organic agriculture which "tries to foster a more organic relationship between cultivator and soil." Many ideas current within mystical green circles have a very similar conceptual basis to those of classical Fascism (i.e. the German, Italian and Spanish models). Examples of this include a desire to return to an idealised mythical "golden age" - in this case Celtic, the celebration of "feelings" and emotions (i.e. of collectivity and unity) over reason and the cultural appropriation of pagan rituals and symbols.

The problem has become much more acute recently with the emergence of groups such as Rainbow Ark, and more populist figures such as David Icke. Icke may be a figure of fun to those who recall his "turquoise" and "godhead" phases, but his ideas have recently taken a much more sinister direction; he has successfully managed to repackage and overtly (notably "Jewish conspiracy" theories ) into a theory that has proved highly popular amongst New Agers who consider him a sort of guru. In his books called "The Robot's Rebellion" and "....and the truth shall set you free" he attacks electoralism and capitalism - at first glance a praiseworthy exercise but on the grounds that it is a global conspiracy involving a Jewish elite and the "All Seeing Eye" cult !!!! . Unfortunately his followers, the vast majority of whom are New Agers (Although it should be noted that members of the nazi group C18 have turned up at his meetings) don't appear to be able or willing to recognise Icke for what he is - a fascist. Even when publicly confronted with statements such as "A Jewish clique worked to create the First World War, the Rusian Revolution and the Second World War." they have a disturbing tendency to deny his blatant racism and anti-semitism.

Certain aspects of the "New Age" are not holistic or benign but pure poison and should be attacked and discredited at every available opportunity. This is particularly important as more people then ever are turning to New Age spirituality and conspiricism in an escapist search for answers and scapegoats to explain or forget the misery of their everyday lives. Unfortunately there aren't any answers to be found in crystal gazing (crystals which incidentally if shopbought are likely to have been mined by multinationals such as RTZ who are engaged in wholesale devastation of the Third World) or infantile conspiracy theories. The reality of the situation is that we live in an openly exploitative and oppressive society and until people recognise that the answer to the riddle of their dead lives lies in practical struggle people will look to scum like Icke peddling their shit as a solution.


Ecofascism, Lessons From the German Experience by Janet Biehl and Peter Staudenmaier is published by AK Press and is available from them or the usual lefty bookshops.

For more info on David Icke etc. contact Open Eye at BM Open Eye, London, WC1 3XX
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Post  MoMo on Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:58 am

http://www.yashanet.com/anti-semitism/index.htm

http://www.yashanet.com/anti-semitism/index.htm


"Jews are hated not so much because they killed Jesus, but because they produced him."

Sigmund Freud


http://www.aish.com/sem/wtj/82875402.html

Prejudice, it seems, is a standard fare of life. In his folksong entitled "National Brotherhood Week," Tom Lehrer sings:

Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics,
and the Catholics hate the Protestants,
and the Hindus hate the Muslims
and everybody hates the Jews.

In this song, Lehrer expresses the truism that hatred for the Jew is uniquely commonplace. The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, blood libels, pogroms, countless expulsions and the systematic murder of 6 million.
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Post  MoMo on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:12 pm


http://www.aish.com/print/?contentID=84684087&section=/sem/wtj

Jews became the target of hatred from those who opposed conscience and morality.


Traditional Jewish View of Anti-Semitism

Hitler introduced to mankind a unique strain of anti-Semitism. To the world at large, this brand of anti-Semitism seemed new, but there was nothing revolutionary about it to the Jews.

Long before any practical manifestation of anti-Semitism made its appearance in the world, the Torah made it known that anti-Semitism would play an integral role in Jewish history. In fact, we were told, Jews would be hated for exactly the reasons Hitler so brazenly outlined.

The Talmud (Tractate Shabbos 89) cites the source of anti-Semitism using a play on words: The Torah – the source of the Jewish system of laws, values and moral standards – was received at Mount Sinai. The Hebrew pronunciation of "Sinai" is almost identical to the Hebrew word for "hatred" – sinah. "Why was the Torah given on a mountain called Sinai?" asks the Talmud. "Because the great sinah – the tremendous hatred aimed at the Jew – emanates from Sinai."

At Sinai Jews were told that there is one God, Who makes moral demands on all of humanity. Consequently, at Sinai the Jewish nation became the target for the hatred of those whose strongest drive is to liberate mankind from the shackles of conscience and morality.

At Sinai the Jewish nation was appointed to be "a light unto the nations." There are those who embrace Jews and the Jewish faith because of that light; but there are also those who want the world to be a place of spiritual darkness. They object to morality. Those would-be harbingers of darkness attack the Jews as the lightning rod for their hatred.

Herman Rauchning had been Hitler’s personal confidante, but he abandoned Nazism and attempted to alert the free world to the scope and danger of the Nazi threat. He wrote:

It is against their own insoluble problem of being human that the dull and base in humanity are in revolt in anti-Semitism. Nevertheless Judaism, together with Hellenism and Christianity, is an inalienable component of our Christian Western Civilization – the eternal "call to Sinai," against which humanity again and again rebels. (The Beast From the Abyss, by Hermann Rauchning)
This "call to Sinai" – the message entrusted to and borne by the Jews – ultimately transforms the world. Yet it is this very message that draws forth the wrath of those who would give their last ounce of strength to resist it.

The Real Reason for Hatred of Jews

Why do people hate this message – the eternal "call to Sinai" – and harbor such animosity for those who carry it?

A great many people simply can’t cope with the burden of being good. However, when they act in ways that are bad, they can’t cope with the resultant feelings of guilt. Try as they may, they can never cut themselves loose from the standards of absolute morality dictated by the Torah. Stuck in this "Catch-22" situation, people turn with their mounting frustrations against the Jews, who they perceive as personifying humanity’s collective conscience.

Sigmund Freud recognized this tendency, and explained: "Jews are hated not so much because they killed Jesus, but because they produced him."

Thousands of years ago, before the Torah was given, people built their livesPagan idolPagan idol around philosophies that were based on their own concepts of right and wrong. Then, when the Jews entered the theological arena, they showed people all the mistakes they had been making:

Pagan gods are nonsense – there is only one God for all of mankind, Who is invisible, infinite and perfect. Infanticide and human sacrifice are unacceptable. Every human being is born with specific rights. No one can live as he pleases, for everyone must surrender his will to a higher Authority.

On a certain conscious level, people recognize the Jews’ message as truth. Those unwilling to embrace the truth have found that the only way to rid themselves of it is to destroy the messengers – for the message itself is too potent to be dismissed.

That is what is so irksome about the Jews, and that is why, for some people, nothing less than total destruction of the Jews will do. If Judaism were just another ideology, people could laugh it off and continue on their merry way. But deep in his soul, every human being recognizes the essential truths of morality – people can’t just laugh it off.

Any individual’s claim to superiority bothers people only to the extent that they believe it is true. If someone who is indisputably ugly saunters up to a nice-looking fellow at a party and says, "I’m better-looking than you," what would be the other’s response? More than likely he would simply shrug his shoulders and ignore him, because the comment would not bother him in the least.

If, on the other hand, the best-looking guy in the room comes up to the same fellow and makes the identical comment, that will raise his dander. The reason is that one doesn’t resent people who say they are superior; one resents people who are superior.

That is why the Christians’ hatred of the Jews was particularly intense. They, more than those of other religions, were threatened by the Jewish message. Jews said that Jesus was not God. This statement assumes a "wrongness" about Christianity. The Church Fathers understood that if the Jews are right, and they remain Jews, this implies that Christianity is bankrupt.

Therein lies Judaism’s colossal threat to Christianity. Other groups’ denial of Jesus is a great disappointment to Christians, but the Jews’ denial is intolerable. Jesus came to the Jews! The very group that produced him, those people who had the most knowledge and authority on such matters, those who represented the last word on religion – were the first to reject Jesus.

The Jewish threat to Christianity has nothing to do with their having "killed" Jesus. The source of Christian fear runs much deeper: Jewish existence invalidates the essential tenet of Christian theology.

What is this message that the Jewish people are bringing to the world, that so many find so threatening?

The Jews: Light Unto the Nations

The profound message that Jews bear to humanity has gained such widespread acceptance that people tend to take it for granted. Yet the ideas which originated at Sinai have literally changed the world.

Few people give much thought anymore to the source of the basic moral underpinnings of Western society. Concepts such as basic human rights, the notion that the sick and the elderly should be cared for – not murdered or left to die – and the idea of society assisting the poor and disadvantaged, all seem to "come naturally" nowadays.

In short, Jewish concepts have civilized the world.



Any serious student of history who has gained some awareness of what world standards were like before the Jews came along can easily recognize the enormous impact that Judaism has had.

How Do Non-Jewish Historians View Jews?

Those who understand world philosophic trends prior to the advent of the Jewish influence can identify clearly that it was the Jews who moved the world away from paganism and toward standards of morality and justice.

John Adams, second president of the United States, wrote to a friend:

"I insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men that any other nation . . . they are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this earth … They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe, and have influenced the affairs of mankind more, and more happily, than any other nation, ancient or modern."(Letter of John Adams to F.A. Van der Kemp, 1808; Pennsylvania Historical Society)
Christian scholar and historian Paul Johnson wrote in his bestseller, History of the Jews:

One way of summing up 4,000 years of Jewish history is to ask ourselves, what would have happened to the human race if Abraham had not been a man of great sagacity; or if he had stayed in Ur and kept his higher notions to himself, and no specific Jewish people had come into being. Certainly the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place.

All the great conceptual discoveries of the intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they have been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the ideas of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of the human person; of the individual conscience, and so of personal redemption; of the collective conscience, and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal, and love as the foundation of justice; and many other items which constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind.
In Ancient and Medieval History, Hayes and Moon wrote:

Only if you have some knowledge of the human sacrifices, the vicious temple rites, the degrading superstitions and customs that were practiced... can you realize how much the modern world owes to the Hebrew prophets, whose monotheism and moral teachings entered into Christianity and Islam...
T.R. Glover highlighted this very idea in his book, The Ancient World:

Mankind – East and West, Christian and Muslim – accepted the Jewish conviction that there is only one God. Today it is polytheism that is so difficult to understand, that is so unthinkable.
Jewish morals and ideals have gained near-universal acceptance. And with that, it has produced people virulently resistant to the Jewish message.

Understanding Being Jewish

The Jewish people can withstand almost any amount of persecution. Throughout history, Judaism has survived countless incidents of unspeakable prejudice and persecution. What is the secret to their persistent strength?

Philosopher Friedrich Neitzsche once said, "A human being can survive any how, as long as he has the proper why." That is to say, a person can tolerate any circumstance life sends his way, if only he understands the deeper meaning to that experience.

Over the millennium, the Jewish people have experienced enormous amounts of hatred – ultimately leading to genocide. And through it all, the Jewish people always held onto being Jewish. That is because they understood that it was worth it. They understood the meaning of being Jewish, and were willing to pay the price.

If the Jews would not have seen any meaning to their pain, it is unlikely they would have been willing to stand by their Jewish identity. That is why we find such widespread assimilation today – many Jews do not see why they should "lose out" on life and set themselves apart.

In other words, Anti-Semitism + Ignorance = Assimilation

If we can come to understand why Jews are so hated, we can understand who Jews are and, more important, who Jews can be. A powerful effort has been made to remove the Jewish element from anti-Semitism, and in doing so, to ignore the critical message anti-Semitism teaches about the uniqueness and preciousness of the Jew. This alone is a compelling reason for Jews to learn about anti-Semitism and what it means to be a Jew.

Although we don't live in Nazi Germany where they were murdering Jews, we do live in a world that is subtly anti-Semitic. Whether it's the U.N. condemnations or media bias against Israel, or violence against Jews in Europe today, hatred of the Jews is there. Subtle but persistent.

"Carrot Top" Metaphor

Jews know very clearly the burden of being Jewish. Without the beauty, without understanding the benefits of Judaism, they are going to say, "Let's get rid of this. Who needs this? I want to get out from under being Jewish."

Imagine you have a daughter, and finally the great day arrives when she is ready to go into first grade – to join the outside world, to join society for the first time. Like all young parents, you are nervous. You send her off to school, wondering: How will she be accepted? How will she fit in? Will she be socially adept and have friends, etc?

Coming home that day, you are excited to hear about your daughter's first day. But you see that she is crushed. You ask, "What's wrong?" She answers, "During recess all the kids made fun of me. They looked at my red hair and called me 'carrot top.' It was terrible!"

You are devastated. Your child's whole future, her self-esteem, is on the line. What's going to be? What can you do about it?

The easiest solution to this problem is to dye her hair. Presto! No longer a redhead, she's a brunette. The problem is eliminated!

What's the more difficult solution? To reframe it. To tell her: "No matter what they say about having red hair, it's not bad. It's beautiful! It's gorgeous! It's unique. It has flair and individuality. It's extravagant." You reframe it. And she has no more problems. Because her problem was not really a problem, only the misconception of others.

In truth, what's the worst possible thing you can do to this child? To dye her hair. Why? Because you are confirming her fears. You are telling her: "They are right. There really is something wrong with red hair. Let's get rid of it."

That's our situation. In one sense, being Jewish is like being born with red hair. It's not popular. There are people who will degrade us for it.

Unless every Jew has a strong understanding of the significance of being Jewish, then, by definition, he is not going to like being Jewish. He is not going to like himself.

What's the best way to get that alternative perception to being Jewish?

We have arrived at an understanding of anti-Semitism and its cause.

The Cause is the Solution

The solution to anti-Semitism is exactly the same as the cause: It is Jewish values and beliefs that cause anti-Semitism, and it will be Jewish values and beliefs that ultimately will eliminate anti-Semitism.

The message that the Jews bear is the recipe for conquering evil. The more effectively Jews transmit their special message, the closer they come to making a holocaust – whether aimed against Jews or against any other group – impossible.

Only when Jews act as Jews – only when the Torah's message of ethics and morality is known throughout the world – can we ever hope to experience a world in which evil has been eradicated.

Therein lies the exquisite irony of Jewish history. Although Jews posed no military, political or economic threat, and were never more than a tiny fraction of the world’s population, they were always a major power in the eyes of mankind. Why? Because of the message they carry – the Torah.

Jewish ideas influence the world, but the world cannot absorb the message properly unless the Messengers – the Jews – know it and teach it.

Instead of "Why the Jews," the question is really: “Why Be Jewish?”

The answer to that question is critical for yourself, for the Jewish people and, ultimately, for the world. When Jews must live in an anti-Semitic society, within the context of a past brimming with anti-Semitism, they must possess a strong inner sense of why their being Jewish is meaningful and worthwhile, and why it is worth the effort.
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Post  MoMo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:40 am

Shining a bright light on the New Age Neo Nazis at the david icke forum. thumbs up

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The New Age Neo Nazi mods got rid of most of the opposing voices so now the New Age Neo Nazi can have their echo chamber of hate and lies without interupption............notice this thread of holocaust denial........some real 'pros' have arrived..........specious 'claims' and 'allegations' without any factual support.........exposing icke as a holocaust denier... thumbs up

check out: Believe Nothing .a real 'Pro'.........................a real professional New Age Neo Nazi cockroach

Concrete evidence for that the Holocaust happened

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188378

posters such as myself and dogsmilk and others that refuted the lies of the revisionist have been silenced, allowing them to spread their demonic hatred without opposition............ultimately they will fail and when the 'Bill comes due' for their hatred they will cry and plead ignorance..................


eternalspirit...AKA.positive forward.......this abject moron has a new hero, a bigger abject moron, who doesn't know what the definition of genocide is...................
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http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061010847&postcount=1842

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061010847&postcount=1842

as always, many of them claim to be christian and believe 'jesus' denying He was/is a Jew, a vain attempt to rewrite history like they do with the holocaust.............Believe Nothing claims the Jews/Israelis are waging GENOCIDE ont he palestinians.........that 'jesus' hated the Jews .


Simple research provides a plethora of evidence that refutes his delusional, insane 'beliefs'.


Palestinian 'Genocide'..actual demographics................

Myths & Facts Online: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/mftoc.html

Index of Myths

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFindex.html


http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_72.html

there is no shortage of truth that refutes these new age neo nazis lies..........they simply ignore facts/reality and prefer to embrace hateful deceit..........

BIG LIES:
Demolishing The Myths
of the Propaganda War Against Israel


http://archive.frontpagemag.com/media/pdf/biglies.pdf

So, is Israel really committing a genocide with the Palestinians?

http://www.eretzyisrael.org/is-israel-committing-a-genocide.html

If one listens to anti-Israel rhetoric, it is often spoken about how Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinian people. But this disgusting libel couldn’t be further from the truth. Consider the following.

First of all, what exactly is genocide? The dictonary states that it is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Israel has never targeted the Palestinian people or those of Arab ethnicity for a genocide. In Israel, Arab citizens have equal rights to Israeli ones. Over half of Israeli Arabs have stated, in various polls [1] [2] [3], that they would not give up their Israeli citizenship for citizenship in a Palestinian state. Why would they wish to retain their Israeli nationality if a genocide were being committed against them?

And how about Palestinians who don’t have Israeli citizenship, those that live in Gaza and Judea and Samaria? Debunking a genocide there is a case of simple statistics.

From 2000, 4,228 Palestinians have been killed. In 2007, 65% of Palestinian deaths resulted from internal conflict rather than Israeli operations. 59% of civilian casualties otherwise were a result of an Israeli military operation. 69% of Israeli casualties were civilian. The source for this is the United Nations itself. Numbers such as these do not represent a genocide, in which large amounts of people are killed by others in a short span of time.

From the founding of the State of Israel (1948 to now), somewhere between 15,000 and 1.5 million Palestinians have been killed - I have not been able to find a constant statistic at all, as many different sites had different numbers. This number is inclusive of civilian casualties, militant casualties, Palestinian infighting, and Palestinians killed by other Arabs (such as those who died in the Black September War with Jordan). In comparison, 14 million people were killed by Hitler in a span of approximately six years, 1.7 million people in Cambodia in a span of four years, and 800,000 people killed in 100 days in Rwanda, almost all civilian and almost none from infighting.

Also, Palestinian population growth is immense. From 1990, the population has doubled in size. Such demographic trends do not occur when a genocide is present. thumbs up wave Yoo Hoo
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Israel also gives more aid to the Palestinian territories than any other nation. Just a few days ago, on September 26th, Israel sent more than 7,000 tons of goods, gas, and even construction materials to Gaza. Regardless as to why you believe the Palestinians need aid, it cannot be disputed that Israel is their biggest supplier. A nation committing genocide does not give such charity to the people they are supposedly trying to kill.

Refuting genocide in Israel/Palestine is a very basic and yet is quite a necessary thing to do. Don’t be brainwashed by such a hateful claim that is, as you have just learned, hideous propaganda.


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Post  MoMo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:12 am

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» Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:46 pm

Hopkins has had a nasty track record of fabricating results.

This whole destroying health through fraudulent medicine is part of the big push to get Americans perpetually DISEASED and crippled up so the nice jewish doctors that are actually carrying out the current genocide can peddle their poisons, and make money...

just like they did in Abraham's time.

That is what a "Sorceror" really does...deception and poisoning

The Old Testament patriarchs are great examples of stealing wealth by cunning deception and CREATING ILLNESS TO MAKE MONEY BY "CURING" IT..this is the oldest jewish profession on the books

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Post  MoMo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:48 am

Posted by: believenothing

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061014181&postcount=1851

One thing to keep in mind, these quotes are often mis-used by the Ashkenazi opposition to make Hitler out to be an anti-Christ which is then sold to the useful idiot Christians brainwashed with Judaic vandalization of their theology. Then the well-poisoner psychopaths show up and link Hitler to the Thule society via some of his colleagues which then evolve into some "Nazi" UFO Antarctica fantasy involving Admiral Byrd, likely to cover for what Operation High Jump was all about and also demonize Hitler further at the same time.

Hitler openly advocated a 'positive Christianity' free from Judaic influence. Modern Christianity and it's Western 'Judeo-Christian' variation is a huge corruption of the original 'gospel'... literally. The Jesus gospels portray a Jesus which is nothing like the pussified American version adhering to Jewish dogma like the 10 commandments. In fact this real Jesus character replaces the 10 commandments. He also speaks out against the Pharisees who then have him crucified. People need to know that Judaism by their own admission is based on the Pharisee traditions. Judaism and Christianity are not compatbile with each other. I have no idea why the Old Testament is part of their bible. Protestantism left the theology open to interpretation which Darby and Scofield have taken advantage of, the latter successful because of Jewish financial backing. They have Judaized Christianity and American Christians are currently collectively dumb and drinking the piss. Even male American babies are mostly circumcised and it's acceptable. For 'medical' reasons and what not. This sickness might look normal to those of us with mutilated cranks, but it's not.

As a non-religious person, I have long criticized Abrahamism and Christianity. When I read the bible, I was surprised to find myself admiring the Jesus gospels. They're all-around mostly positive. I don't know how something like that could be corrupted to something like the modern day variation. The Revelation book doesn't help, but that's probably part of the vandalization.

If Hitler wanted to make a positive Christianity opposed to the Judaic falsification, it would have been a great thing. It still would be.


Yo!!!! believenothing!!!! wave what, we aren't supposed to believe anything except your Psuedo Historical and psuedo revisionist lies? thinking hmm The post above is prima facie proof you are an ignorant and deceitfulsize] wave

Check this out you idiot......................


http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/Jewish-View-Of-Jesus.htm

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Stated simply, the Jewish view of Jesus of Nazareth is that he was an ordinary Jewish man and preacher living during the Roman occupation of the Holy Land in the first century C.E. The Romans executed him - and also executed many other nationalistic and religious Jews - for speaking out against Roman authority and abuses.

Was Jesus the Messiah According to Jewish Beliefs?
After the death of Jesus, his followers - at the time a small sect of former Jews known as the Nazarenes - claimed he was the Messiah prophesied in Jewish texts and that he would soon return to fulfill the acts required of the Messiah. The majority of contemporary Jews rejected this belief and Judaism as a whole continues to do so today. Eventually, Jesus became the focal point of a small Jewish religious movement that would evolve into the Christian faith.............


that's right, Jesus opposed and excoriated the NAZIs of His Day.....the Romans, and also excoriated the sellout jewish elites.........less then 5% of the jewish population..........so the nazi/roman oppressers co-opted Yeshua and his teachings, made him jesus and embossed satanic/paganic traditons on him........just like you are doing.....you probably never actually read Yeshuas teachings.if you had you would have realized 99% of them were from the Old Testament........Yeshua/Jesus was 100% Torah conscious and observant.......you liar. Listen, old buddy old pal, I know you are a not 2 bright and are challenged by the concepts of truth/facts/reality.like most ICKEtilians, but try to understand the following posts and stop lying........I've got a bright light to shine on you, you liar.... thumbs up lmao rolf

http://www.wildolive.co.uk/Rabbi%20Jesus.htm

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http://www.agudatbris.com/writtings2010/kabalah_revelation_messiah_yahshua.pdf

“Tikun HaOlam,” the repairing of the world. How are we to do that?
“Hear, O Israel: Yahweh (is) our Elohim, Yahweh is one. Love Yahweh your Elohim with all your
heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be
upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk
along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them
on your foreheads. Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.” (Deuteronomy 6:4-9)
How does the Ayn Sof, Who is pure Spirit without semblance or form, reveal himself to mortal man? In
the beginning, He did so by revealing himself through the manifestation of His Grace – called the ירות b פn ס
Sephirot.
“Praise be to you, O Yahweh, Elohim of our father Israel, from everlasting to everlasting. Yours, O
Yahweh, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the majesty and the splendor, for everything in
heaven and earth is yours. Yours, O Yahweh, is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over all.” (1 Chronicles
29:10-11)
This was revealed to us through Scripture by the Patriarchs, prophets, and sages.
“In the past Yahweh spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various
ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by His Son, Whom He appointed heir of all things, and
through Whom He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of Yahweh’s glory and the exact representation
of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat
down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So He became as much superior to the angels as the name
He has inherited is superior to theirs.” (Hebrews 1:1-4)
“He is the image (Adam Kadmon) of the invisible Elohim (Ayn Sof), the firstborn over all creation
(Son of Yahweh). For through Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and
invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and
for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the
Assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence
(Messiah). (Colossians 1:15-18)”
The Son was created from out of the Father and was the agency that was used anytime man needed to see
the Elohim, “No man hath seen Yahweh at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, He hath revealed him. (John 1:18)”


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Historical evidence the scumbag NAZIS attempted to 'Dejudaize' Yeshua/Jesus to fit their antisemitic agenda...........


http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8820.pdf

I N T R O D U C T I O N
Theology and Race
AT NOON ON SATURDAY, MAY 6, 1939, a group of Protestant theologians, pastors,
and churchgoers gathered at the historic Wartburg Castle, resonant with Lutheran
and nationalist significance, to celebrate the official opening of the Institute
for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Church
Life (Institut zur Erforschung und Beseitigung des jüdischen Einfl usses auf
das deutsche kirchliche Leben). The Institute’s goals were both political and
theological. Seeking to create a dejudaized church for a Germany that was in
the process of ridding Europe of all Jews, it developed new biblical interpretations
and liturgical materials. In the six years of its existence, as the Nazi regime
carried out its genocide of the Jews, the Institute redefi ned Christianity
as a Germanic religion whose founder, Jesus, was no Jew but rather had fought
valiantly to destroy Judaism, falling as victim to that struggle. Germans were
now called upon to be the victors in Jesus’s own struggle against the Jews, who
were said to be seeking Germany’s destruction.
On the theological level, the Institute achieved remarkable success, winning
support for its radical agenda from a host of church officials and theology professors
who welcomed the removal of Jewish elements from Christian scripture
and liturgy and the redefi nition of Christianity as a Germanic, Aryan religion.
Members of the Institute worked devotedly, as did so many others in the
Reich, to win the fight against the Jews. Their devotion took them to greater
and greater extremes, abandoning traditional Christian doctrine in exchange
for coalitions with neo-pagan leaders, and producing vituperative propaganda
on behalf of the Reich’s measures against the Jews. “Aryan,” for them, meant
not simply a physical or biological body type, but much more an inner spirit
that was simultaneously of great power and also profoundly vulnerable and in
need of protection from the degeneracy threatened by non-Aryans, particularly
Jews. In Nazi Germany, racial hygiene was the field to learn how to protect
the body housing the Aryan spirit; the Institute’s theology attended directly
to caring for that spirit.
Most members of the Institute, particularly its academic director, Walter
Grundmann, professor of New Testament at the University of Jena, regarded
their work as being in the theological avant-garde, addressing and resolving
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I N T R O D U C T I O N
a problem that had long plagued Christian theology: how to establish clear and distinct boundaries between earliest Christianity and Judaism and eliminate all traces of Jewish influence from contemporary Christian theology and religious practice. As a predominantly younger generation of scholars, trained by Germany’s leading scholars of early Christianity—many members of the Institute were students of the distinguished Tübingen professor, Gerhard Kittel, himself a Nazi who produced antisemitic propaganda1—they saw themselves able to recover the historically genuine, non-Jewish Jesus and a Christian message compatible with contemporary German identity. Theirs was a goal of purification, authenticity, and theological revolution, all in the name of historical-critical methods and commitment to Germanness, to be achieved by eradicating the Jewish from the Christian. A Christian message tainted by Jewishness could not serve Germans, nor could a Jewish message be the accurate teaching of Jesus.
The Institute’s goals were stated forthrightly at its opening by Grundmann, who delivered the keynote lecture on “The Dejudaization of the Religious Life as the Task of German Theology and Church.” The present era, he declared, was similar to the Reformation: Protestants had to overcome Judaism just as Luther had overcome Catholicism. “The elimination of Jewish infl uence on German life is the urgent and fundamental question of the present German religious situation.” Yes, Grundmann noted, people in Luther’s day could not imagine Christianity without the Pope, just as today they could not imagine salvation without the Old Testament, but the goal could be realized. Modern New Testament scholarship had made apparent the “deformation of New Testament ideas into Old Testament preconceptions, so that now angry recognition of the Jewishness in the Old Testament and in parts of the New Testament has arisen, obstructing access to the Bible for innumerable German people.”2
The Bible would have to be purified, Grundmann continued, restored to its pristine condition, to proclaim the truth about Jesus: that he sought the destruction of Judaism. Grundmann outlined the scholarly tasks that the Institute would undertake. This included clarifying the role of Judaism in early Christianity and its influence on modern philosophy. Any opposition to National Socialism from within the church, claimed Grundmann, arose from nefarious Jewish influence, such as the arguments of Jewish scholars that Jesus was a Jew. The Jews had destroyed Germans’ “völkisch” (racial) thinking, Grundmann continued, and, with help from Bolshevism, they were now striving for world conquest, the “Weltherrschaft des Judentums” (world domination of Jewry). The Jewish threat to Germany was grave: “For these reasons,” Grundmann stated, echoing Nazi propaganda, “the struggle against the Jews has been irrevocably turned over to the German Volk.”3 The war against the Jews was not simply a military battle, but a spiritual battle: “Jewish influence on all areas of German life, including on religious-church life, must be exposed and broken,”4 a phrase Grundmann frequently used in defining the Institute’s purpose.



the most useful and consistent aspect of Christianity for the Nazi movement was its anti-Judaism, just as the single most consistent and persistent feature of Nazism was its antisemitism.
Hitler was well aware of arguments that were central to the Institute: that Jesus was an Aryan, and that Paul, as a Jew, had falsified Jesus’s message, themes he repeatedly mentioned in private conversations, together with rants against the church as a Jewish subversion of the Aryan spirit (though the reliability of his reported private conversations is uncertain). In a diatribe alleged to have occurred in October of 1941, the month Hitler made the decision to murder the Jews,17 Hitler proclaimed that Jesus was not a Jew, but a fi ghter against Jewry whose message was falsified and exploited by Paul: “St. Paul transformed a local movement of Aryan opposition to Jewry into a super-temporal religion, which postulates the equality of all men . . . [causing] the death of the Roman Empire.”18 His views demonstrate that the German Christian diagnosis of Christianity as tainted by Jewish influence resonated at the highest levels of the Reich, but that its prescribed solution of dejudaization was met with skepticism if not sheer mockery. Was Christianity thoroughly impregnated with Judaism, or could it be dejudaized, as the Institute claimed?
Like the antisemitic parties of the nineteenth century, the Nazi Party could not reject Christianity—not only because it would offend the moral and social sensibilities of Germans, but because the antisemitism of Christianity formed the basis on which the party could appeal to Germans with its racial and nationalist ideology. Nazism’s relationship to Christianity was not one of rejection, nor was it an effort to displace Christianity and become a form of “political religion.” Nazism did not present racial antisemitism as antithetical to Christian theological anti-Judaism; rather, Nazi ideology was a form of supersessionism, a usurpation and colonization of Christian theology, especially its antisemitism, for its own purposes.

Conversely, German Christians appropriated Nazi rhetoric and symbols into the church to give its Christianity a contemporary resonance. Both the Nazis and the German Christians identified Hitler as Christ’s second coming. That gave Hitler the status of a supernatural being



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Jesus as Rabbi in the Fourth Gospel

http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/rabbi_kostenberger.pdf

Jesus must foremost of all be understood in terms of his Jewish cultural context
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Jesus’ Use of the Old Testament
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» Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:46 pm

Hopkins has had a nasty track record of fabricating results.

This whole destroying health through fraudulent medicine is part of the big push to get Americans perpetually DISEASED and crippled up so the nice jewish doctors that are actually carrying out the current genocide can peddle their poisons, and make money...

just like they did in Abraham's time.

That is what a "Sorceror" really does...deception and poisoning

The Old Testament patriarchs are great examples of stealing wealth by cunning deception and CREATING ILLNESS TO MAKE MONEY BY "CURING" IT..this is the oldest jewish profession on the books

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Where did the values and principles of the modern world come from?

think

http://www.aish.com/ci/s/48899267.html

AGAINST THE GRAIN: THE JEWISH VIEW

"I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation ... fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations." (John Adams, 2nd president of the United States)


"Certainly, the world without the Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the human intellect seem obvious and inescapable once they had been revealed, but it requires a special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of human person; of the individual conscience and so a personal redemption; of collective conscience and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items which constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without Jews it might have been a much emptier place." (Paul Johnson, Christian historian, author of A History of the Jews and A History of Christianity)

Could that be true?

Is it really possible that our moral values do not originate in one of the great civilizations but have been bequeathed to us by a small, otherwise insignificant nation inhabiting a tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East?

I venture to say that the ancient Hebrews (who later came to be known as the Israelites and still later as the Jews) would have disagreed with the statements of Adams and of Johnson above. They would have insisted that they had nothing personally to do with inventing the values which ran against the grain of the world around them, and indeed were totally unknown to other peoples. They would have insisted that these values came from God, and they were merely the people chosen to disseminate them worldwide.

This was the story they told from the time they appeared on the world scene around 1300 BCE, hundreds of years before the ascent of the Greek civilization. Back then, they were still a newly emerging nation that functioned more like a large extended family, all family members tracing their ancestry to a man named Abraham who had lived somewhere around 1,800 BCE. They were a strange people with an even stranger religion:

•They believed in only one God – all-powerful, infinite, and invisible – who had created everything known to man, a notion totally foreign to every ancient people that preceded them.
•They claimed that all of them – some 600,000 men and untold number of women and children – had miraculously escaped from slavery in Egypt, then the mightiest empire on earth, through the miraculous intervention of their God.
•They claimed that after their great escape, they reached a mountain in the wilderness, Mt. Sinai, where they all had an encounter with God; during that encounter, and through the person of their leader Moses, they supposedly received a code of behavior – compiled in a holy book known as the "Torah" – which they scrupulously followed.
A STRANGE PEOPLE

It was a story bound to raise more than a few eyebrows in the ancient world. Of course, the ancient people believed all sorts of wild things about divine relationships with human beings, so the Jews' story was not in itself all that outlandish. Nor was a society governed by laws so strange, after all, previous law codes, the Code of Hammurabi being the most famous, set forth rules governing property rights and the like. What the ancient world couldn't fathom was this particular code. Indeed, it was a code that to the ancient mind seemed irrational.

"The Jews are distinguished from the rest of mankind in practically every detail of life," wrote Roman philosopher Deo Cassius, expressing his disapproval. "In particular ... they do not honor any of the usual gods, but show extreme reverence to only one God."

Part of that "extreme" reverence translated into following that God's law, a law which could not be altered as was convenient. It was an absolute, God-given standard, and by that fact alone it stood apart from any law of any other society.

But there was more about the Jews that was strange, besides their God and their law. The Torah – or the Biblos as the Greeks would call it – was like no holy book of any people before or since, in yet another way. It made the Jews look bad. In it, they are shown as shirkers and complainers, often sinning against their own God and His law. And yet they insisted that they needed to carry around with them the history of their failures as well as their successes in order never to lose sight of their mission to elevate humanity.



you doubt me bitch? You talk a lot of shit, you don't know shit about the patriarchs but that doesn't stop you from running your cockhole spewing hatred.............HO!! Abraham said NO!!! to polytheism, panentheism, magic, superstion. Try breading some real books, wave


14 truths that changed the world............ wave

http://www.alljudaica.com/The-Torah-Revolution-Fourteen-Truths-That-Changed-p/13082.htm

This is a unique look at the Torah—the foundation of Jewish existence—and the revolutionary teachings of Moses embedded within it that gave birth to Judaism and influenced the world.

Dr. Reuven Hammer presents fourteen radical ideas found in Torah, explains their original intentions, and shows how understanding these "truths" can help you better understand the narrative and laws of Judaism. He shows how when taken together, these value concepts present a picture of human life that is surprisingly modern and relevant to our goals for repairing the world today:

• Humanity is one as God is one

• Human beings are responsible for their actions and have the choice to do good or evil

• Poverty, deprivation, slavery and hatred are evils that must be eradicated

• The earth is not ours to destroy

• The love of others is a divine command

• And much more ...

Rabbi Reuven Hammer, PhD,

He writes that it is true that the Torah's new concepts were not fully implemented in the past: "Sometimes that took generations, and sometimes there were retreats from the purity of these ideas. Some have yet to fully realized." But the concepts are there in the Torah, and little by little, societies are coming to recognize these truths and implementing them. What are they?

1. Only one God exists. God is eternal, without physical needs, just, and merciful.
2. There is no supernatural evil force in the world.
3. God expects people to act properly. Ritual is secondary to right conduct.
4. God does not need sacrifices. Worship helps people, not God.
5. Human life is sacred.
6. All people are equal.
7. Men and women are equal.
8. Humans have free will and can choose their actions.
9. Human leaders are subordinate to the laws of God.
10. Priests and Levites have no special powers and no secret knowledge.
11. Land and wealth should be distributed equitably.
12. Slavery of all kinds should be mitigated.
13. The needy must be cared for.
14. There should be a day of rest for everyone, including animals.


Hammer discusses each of these truths in detail, compares them to the way other societies handled them, tells some of the history of how these ideas developed, and suggests further improvements. Readers will learn much from this book and have a better and deeper appreciation of the Hebrew Bible.





and no.....it is not a Bronze Age myth though many, many 'think' so.......read these and .............. thumbs up


Genesis and the Big Bang: The Discovery Of Harmony Between Modern Science And The Bible
a book by Gerald Schroeder


http://www.geraldschroeder.com/Genesis.aspx

In this groundbreaking book, physicist Gerald Schroeder takes on skeptics from both sides of the cosmological / theological debate, arguing that science and the Bible are not at odds concerning the origin of the universe and of life. They are two views of one reality from two vastly different perspectives.

The culmination of a physicist's thirty-five-year journey from MIT to Jerusalem, Genesis and the Big Bang presents a compelling argument that the events of the billions of years that cosmologists say followed the Big Bang and those of the first six days described in Genesis are, in fact, one in the same - identical realities described in vastly different terms. In engaging, accessible language, Dr. Schroeder reconciles the observable facts of science with the very essence of Western Religion: the biblical account of Creation.

Carefully reviewing and interpreting accepted scientific principles, analogous passages of Scripture, and biblical scholarship, Dr. Schroeder arrives at a conclusion so lucid that one wonders why it has taken this long in coming. The result for the reader - whether believer or skeptic, Jewish or Christian - is a totally fresh understanding of the key events in the life of the universe.



The Genesis Enigma: Why the Bible Is Scientifically Accurate

We receive many books to review at CASE that we usually send on to reviewers. There is always a temptation to read every book yourself, but usually common sense over-rules the temptation and you pass each book on to someone else. I failed this test with Andrew Parker's book 'The Genesis Enigma: Why the Bible is Scientifically Accurate'. A new book on Genesis is not unusual, nor is one that claims that the Bible is true. But what is more unusual is to find a scientist with no faith claiming that Genesis chapter 1 is consistent with the latest evidence-based science. This is in stark contrast to many scientists and atheists who spend a lot of time pointing to what they see as the inaccuracy of the Bible



THE ALPHABET VERSUS
THE GODDESS: The Conflict
Between Word & Image


THE ALPHABET VERSUS
THE GODDESS: The Conflict
Between Word & Image

A child learns a novel bit of information. A set of neurons fires in his or her
brain. With each reinforcement of the lesson, the same neurons fire again,
The surrounding neurons, sensitized to the discharges of the first set, also begin
to join in what becomes an ever-magnifying electrochemical chorus. Learned
information becomes “burned” into neuronal pathways. Such is the manner by
which we acquire knowledge that will endure throughout our lives. Conversely,
what we fail to learn causes the withering of whole tracts of other neurons as a
result of their disuse. For example, a preschooler can learn a second language with
ease if taught at the right time. The same individual having to learn that second
language many years later in college will find it a far more difficult task.
But what effect does the kind of learning have on the larger organization of
the human brain? Separating our species from virtually all others, we have two
highly specialized brain hemispheres. Each lobe is designed to handle essentially
different types of information. The left lobe in over 90% of people is the seat
of language that is perceived in a linear stream. We call this careful sequencing
grammar and syntax, without which strings of words would be incoherent. The
majority of other linear, sequential mental processes such as logic, reason, algebra,
causality, and arithmetic also reside principally in the left hemisphere. In general,
the main functions of the left proceed linearly — one thing after another — in time.
It is as if evolution designed the left hemisphere as a new sense organ charged with
perceiving sequential time.
The right hemisphere, in contrast, is non-verbal, yet it contributes a global
awareness to events often endowing them with emotion and meaning. In general,
the right perceives the world holistically and simultaneously. It responds to body
language, the voice’s inflection, facial expression and is expert at grasping gestalts.
It takes in whole images in a glance. The right’s primary functions are visualspatial.
We rely on it to read a map, figure out mazes, and discern faces all-at-once.
Evolution assigned the right hemisphere to perceive space and complement the
left’s temporal skills.
But this dichotomy also can be applied to the sexual duality. Addressing righthanders
(who comprise 92% of the population), each man and each woman is a
composite of both a feminine side and a masculine one. Many of the modules
located in the brain that are necessary to care for children too young to use verbal
language reside principally in the right hemisphere and the strategy, planning, and
cooperation necessary to hunt and kill large mammals reside principally in the left
hemisphere.
In general, the right hemisphere of both men and women can be said to be
the seat of their feminine side and the left hemisphere of both men and women is
where their masculine side resides. Every culture in the world acknowledges these
differences in their myths, customs and culture. The left side of the body controlled
by the right brain is considered female and the right side controlled by the left
brain is considered male. For example, Tories are called “right wingers” by their
adversaries and are generally for discipline, fiscal responsibility, and arms. Labour
is called “leftist” by its adversaries and is more supportive of welfare, childcare,
and the rights of women. Left is “sinister” and human “rights” are laudable. The
same distinctions hold throughout history. William Blake wrote, “Time & Space
are Real Beings, a Male & a Female. Time is a Man and Space is a Woman”.
All humans are born with the innate capability to learn the grammar of the
first language he or she hears. And every human is born with an innate ability to
read the body language, gestures, and facial expressions of others. Evolution did
not, however, prepare humans in the same way for the immense innovation called
literacy. The invention of writing approximately five thousand years ago, followed
by the improved system called the alphabet 3500 years later, was on equal par with
fire, the wheel and agriculture. Alphabets, the most abstract, linear, sequential,
reductionist forms of writing, mimic the features of the left hemisphere.
Marshall McLuhan, the 1960s media theorist once wrote, “The medium is the message”.
Literacy, unlike orality which requires the use of both verbal and non-verbal cues,
depends primarily on the use of only the left hemisphere.
Western culture, with its unique monotheistic religions, dualistic philosophies,
and distinctive perspectivist art, advanced science, and written legal codes,
I propose, is the direct result of changes occurring in the brains of the users of
alphabets.
While alphabet literacy has been an incontestable boon to humankind, women’s
rights and images have suffered under regimes newly informed by alphabet literacy.
It is the central thesis of The Alphabet Versus the Goddess that alphabet literacy,
a form of information transfer that reinforces the left hemisphere of both men and
women while denigrating the role of the right hemisphere of both men and women,
caused the dominance of masculine thinking in the culture at large. This led to the
downfall of goddesses, women losing important rights, and property passing not
through the mother’s line but instead through the father’s line.
The Israelite adoption of the West’s first alphabetic sacred book introduced
the Rule of Law and monotheism, but it was accompanied by an abomination
of images and the goddess, and a curtailing of women’s property rights. Literate
Athens was misogynist and patriarchal, compared to Sparta that left to posterity
not a single literary work. Yet Spartan women enjoyed extraordinary rights.
Women enjoyed real power in the new Christian religion founded on the oral
sayings of Jesus and watched it disappear following the transcription of Jesus’
spoken words into a sacred alphabetic text by the “Patriarchs.” Despite all the detail
the gospel writers supplied about Jesus, none included even a sentence describing
Jesus’ appearance. Like Yahweh and Allah, Jesus did not have an image. To know
Him, one had to read His written words.
The central cause of the Dark Ages that followed the fall of Rome was the
loss of literacy in 99% of the European population. It was during this period that
the astonishing ascendancy of Mary occurred. Her image soon dominated the
European landscape. This was also a time when abbesses headed monasteries,
the Chivalric Code and courtly love honored women, and the Church revered its
female Christian mystics. In the time of illiteracy, right hemispheric modes of love,
intuition, mysticism, romance and mother worship were in evidence.
Gutenberg’s invention of the printing press in 1454 caused literacy rates to
soar. The primary motive driving literacy was people’s desire to read the New
Alphabets, the most abstract, linear, sequential, reductionist
forms of writing, mimic the features of the left hemisphere.
Testament. Since the Scripture stresses love, kindness, and forgiveness, it would
follow that the period following the printing press should have been characterized
by these three traits. Rather, the printing press spawned the Protestant Reformation,
which stressed reforms that included reading Scriptures, destroying images, and
jettisoning Mary.
The outbreak of fierce religious wars among kinsmen was unprecedented.
Neighbors burned neighbors at the stake. This sadistic carnage occurred in the
same period that historians call the Age of Reason. Perhaps the steep rise of literacy
in European society reinforced its left hemisphere at the expense of its right.
While the literate countries were bestowing on posterity the works of Galileo,
Shakespeare, Newton, and Bach, the men suffered a psychosis so extreme they believed
their women were so dangerous they must be murdered. The witch-hunts were the
most virulent in those countries experiencing the steepest rise in literacy rates. Russia
remained largely illiterate throughout this period and also suffered no witch hunts.
A colossal shift I call the Iconic Revolution began in the 19th century. The
invention of photography and the discovery of electromagnetism combined to bring
us film, television, computers, graphic advertising and the Internet; all of which are
based on images. The increasing reliance on right brain pattern recognition instead
of left brain linear sequencing has moved culture toward equilibrium between the
two hemispheres, between masculine and feminine, between word and image. Since
the advent of television, women are reclaiming rights that they formally exercised.
Women are serving as priestesses once again and literate cultures saturated with
image information are once again embracing feminine values. The medium is the
message. Perhaps, the thug who mugged the goddess was the invention of literacy
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