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Media bias – does it affect voting patterns?

Post  true lilly on Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:09 pm

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I take it as such an obvious fact of life that one of the problems
we on our side of the fence have to deal with, and it is a very
long-standing problem, is the media bias that makes it very difficult to
put our perspective into the public domain without having to go through
the distorting lens of the mainstream media. In a posting
in which I noted that his wins in the lastest rounds of primaries were
being given no serious media coverage and certainly very little positive
coverage, something noticed by many others and not just me, I stated in
an off-handed sort of way that “the narrative, as in all instances, is
in the hands of the American media whose aim is to demoralise the
Republican side as much as possible.”
But this then led to a comment by
one of my fellow contributors here at Catallaxy. Samuel J wrote in reply:


<blockquote><blockquote>What’s going on is that the narrative, as in all instances,
is in the hands of the American media whose aim is to
demoralise the Republican side as much as possible.
</blockquote>
This type of argument is used by those who think the media should be
regulated and overseen by some independent council for fairness. I don’t
agree with the argument – if Romney doesn’t win the election it will be
because people didn’t vote for him, not because of the media.

</blockquote>

To be frank, I found this something of a surprise. I would think that
to have watched politics at all, certainly everywhere in the English
speaking world, there would be no question that to try to inject a
right-of-centre perspective is seriously difficult.
And again, I am
hardly the only one to have made this point. So to clarify matters, I
wrote this response:


<blockquote>You know, Samuel J, we are obviously living in a parallel universe. What kind of statement is this?

<blockquote>If Romney doesn’t win the election it will be because people didn’t vote for him, not because of the media.
</blockquote>
Do you not see any possible cause and effect relationship between who
people vote for and the media that surrounds them? You should have a
look at the extraordinarily interesting book on media bias, Left Turn,
which I reviewed in Quadrant. This is from that review:


<blockquote>Using some very sophisticated econometric techniques, he
estimates that were the media’s bias around 50 instead, the PQ of the
country would move from around 50 to around half that number to
something like 20-25. That is, the population of the United States would
then have views on average far more conservative than the biases
exhibited in the present day by Fox News!

</blockquote>
That is as near a fact as I can conjure about what ought to be the
most obvious problem for anyone running on the right side of the
political fence. It is not, and amongst us has never been, a call to
regulate the media. But if this is invisible to you, whatever remains
visible must often seem difficult to understand.

</blockquote>

I would have left it there except that Samuel J responded in turn.
In his response Samuel J wrote:


<blockquote>Steve – yes, I’m denying that the media can influence public opinion
[my emphasis - SK]. How much, no one really knows. Is it the most
important factor in a number of potential and actual influences on
public opinion – again, unknown.


But let’s say that the media is the principal influence on voting.

And let’s say that democracy demands that voters have accurate
information presented to them to make an informed decision

otherwise false or biased commentary in the newspapers
will result in voters casting votes different to what they would
if they had unbiased commentary.


Then you are led inexorably into the need to have an overseeing body to bring balance, fairness and accuracy to the media.

Me, I’d prefer (correctly or not) to work on the presumption that
voters are intelligent enough and to sort the wheat from the chaff. That
voters are influenced by a whole host of factors, and that among these
are their peers, friends, personal prejudices etc.


Yes, the media has biased elements – maybe it is dominated by biased
elements. Yes, I often get annoyed about the bias – which I think is
principally left-wing
, although there are elements of extremism on the
other side.


And, yes, I think it would be nice if the media had a clear
distinction between news and comment – the former should consist
entirely of facts and be sourced. The latter can have speculation and
biases.

</blockquote>

So his point, as I understand it, is that if we came to the
conclusion that the media have a left wing bias, then we would be forced
to enact some kind of legislation to prevent it, to rectify matters, to
straighten it out. Therefore, it seems, the best way to forestall
having to start regulating the media is to deny that it is biased at all.


Media bias to the left is shown in more studies than the one I quoted in Quadrant.
And there are compensating advantages to the right side since
politicians on the right know they are being watched like hawks so they
tend to be more careful, while those on the left tend to be slipshod
because they are called out less often. Overall, however, this bias
costs votes and support for those on the right. People are less well
informed
and it is more difficult to get a message out. The natural
reflexes of the media is somewhere between Fabian and Marxist,
with an
almost no-enemies-to-the-left approach. Public debate is stifled and
there is a general drift to the left in policy which is brought to an
end usually only because of the fantastic damage such policies do.


Mitt Romney is now ahead of Barack Obama in the polls 48%-43% only
because the evidence of the harm Obama has done has become so
overwhelming that even with all of the protections offered by the media,
the population in general has begun to understand for themselves that
things must change. But this will still likely be a very close election,
and if the media can cause Obama to be re-elected, they will do it. For
the life of me, I just do not see how this can be denied.


Written by Steve Kates
March 11th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
true lilly wrote:
Mardi Gras launched the logo for
the 2012 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras today,
but has dropped "Gay and Lesbian" from the event.

The move has sparked vigorous debate without the LGBTI community,
however SGLMG claims that the move was intended the better reflect

the muti-faceted LGBTI community and thus coincides with
the symbol representing infinite love.

After 10 years of being known as New Mardi Gras,
the organisation has changed its name back
to the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras,
despite dropping the words "Gay and Lesbian" from the event.


(oh, so it's
ONLY, EVERYONE ELSE who HAS TO BOW to
the 'gay & lesbian' DEMANDS
SHOVED DOWN THE WORLD'S THROAT.
NOT, The FUCK THE WORLD OVER, LEFT.)


The name change is accompanied by the launch of a new season logo
which was developed with advertising agency Moon Communications Group.


Moon creative director Greg Logan told the Star that
the logo is a universal symbol that connects with everyone in a different way.


"It symbolizes all types of genders coming together and does not
discriminate. its symmetry indicates equality and people coming
together to celebrate love," he said.


This year Mardi Gras will feature guest appearances from RuPaul,
Jonathan Hellyer and Sneaky Sound System.
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Re: Media bias – does it affect voting patterns?

Post  true lilly on Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:18 am

Take Heed...

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When tigers attack...


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Fire at Gothic Slovak Castle
Casts Shadow Over Polls


(casts shadows over polls)
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
By Leos RousekAs Slovakia focuses on
general elections, Krasna Horka
,
a monumental gothic castle in the eastern part
of the euro-zone nation
, burned down
after allegedly catching fire
from illegal burning of dry grass,
officials said Saturday.


“For many this sad event at Krasna Horka has cast a huge shadow over
today’s elections,”
outgoing Prime Minister Iveta Radicova said in a
live television interview commenting on exit polls of parliamentary elections.


The 14th-century national monument, whose name means
“beautiful little hill,” towers over the village of Krasnohorske Podhradie
near the eastern Slovak town of Roznava.
Photos here.


Slovakia’s left-of-center opposition Smer party is predicted to be
the election’s winner, estimated to garner 37.3% of the vote. The party,
championing higher taxes on the rich and large corporations, is
expected to lead talks on forming the new coalition government, possibly
including the centrist Christian Democratic Movement, or KDH.


KDH is estimated to have won 10.8% of the vote.
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

SEE ALL, UNCROPPED Photos here.
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The Krasna Horka Castle
Four Centuries of the Rule of Andrássy Family ...
http://www.hradkrasnahorka.sk/index.php?page&lng=en
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

Andrássy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A1ssy
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

Gyula, Count Andrassy (prime minister of Hungary) -- Britannica ...
March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope

"tintin's" thread at
David Icke Official Forums -:
'The NEWS behind The NEWS'-;

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1731
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1732
From 08-03-2012 to 11-03-2012.

...10-03-2012-;


The Krasna Horka Castle
Four Centuries of the Rule of Andrássy Family ...

March 10, 2012, 11:49 PM CET
Fire at Gothic Slovak Castle
Casts Shadow Over Polls


CAREFULLY SCAN and COMPARE,
"tintin's" thread at
David Icke Official Forums -:
'The NEWS behind The NEWS'-;

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1731
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11956&page=1732
From 08-03-2012 to 11-03-2012.

...10-03-2012-;
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/03/10/fire-at-gothic-slovak-castle-casts-shadow-over-polls/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=emergingeurope
SEE ALL, UNCROPPED Photos here.
http://roznava.korzar.sme.sk/c/6293835/poziar-hradu-krasna-horka.html

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The NEWS behind the NEWS.


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'they' "TOUCH",
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Re: Media bias – does it affect voting patterns?

Post  Billy Ruben on Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:04 am

http://sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t1278-ballarat-police-confirm-my-suspicionstrue-lilly-lied-about-car-bombings

Billy Ruben wrote:...But I suppose you all knew that,stupid bint,could'nt get any interest and spread rumours about dogfuckers and babyrapers...where it was probably an uncle or step dad who tricked her out.Anyway,I'd love to see the evidence where she tries to extort the forum for money...pathetic she is,anyway,it's a war and it's grizzley,sorry about this to human eyes,but it's the way it is...
She tried extorting Tintin too,everything she accuses one of,believe me,it's the opposite...she's a true lowlife,see it in the street,don't hit it,don't pity it,expectorate on it...in other words,hawk it right back and spit it heavy in her face,that's what I intend on doing...



Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Anyone of unfounded crimes and atrocities ever again I swear,I'll pursue you to the ends of the Earth,your God,will not protect you...

How dare you,pick on someone that can't even defend themselves.
Do you know how much hurt and pain your stupid little game does,how does mine back to you feel? Get it,myopic slag???
Ozpixie would never be what you accuse her off.

Quote: I Am

Jase,

I would not even show this to ozpixie as I know how much it would upset her and trust me, she does not need this sort of disgusting accusation in her life.

I have been slated by the best of them but really don’t give a toss. I know who I am and my friends and family know who I am.. I have been around long enough that it is water off a duck’s back.

Oz on the other hand is a very sweet lady who is not all that savvy to the hatred spread on the net.

I cannot give you too much information but I can assure you she is not the person true lilly believes she is. Her name is not Christine and she has never met or had any contact with lilly. She is not only not from Ballarat, She is not even from the same state.


How's that for showing what little you really know,eh? But still quite prepared to vomit your bullshit.You got no credibility and you make the Anti-Icke movement look cold and hate-filled with no warrant to be...and for that

I THANK YOU

ANYWAY,YOU'RE NOT GETTING LET OFF,WHILST YOU STILL USE GENERAL FORUM,i WILL HAUNT YOU,BACK IN YOUR DUNGEON DRAGON...AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE,ACCUSE ANYBODY OF ANY SEXUAL CRIME AND I WILL TAUNT AND HAUNT YOU MORE...

THIS WILL NOT END,I WILL AWAIT YOU AND DESTROY EVERY SYLLABLE YOU DARE UTTER IN FUTURE...F*CK YOU,IS THE ORDER FOR EVERYDAY,DRAGON...

cthulhu cthulhu

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Billy Ruben wrote:ANSWER ME YOU GOD WHORE,WHY ACCUSE SOMEONE MEEK AND MILD OF AN ATROCITY THAT SHE COULD'NT EVEN READ ABOUT,LET ALONE PERFORM,WITH NO EVIDENCE AS USUAL,BUT YOU SEEM PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THIS SUBJECT,AND NAMED OZPIXIE WRONG,BUT STILL PERSIST,WHY SPREAD VICIOUS LIES AND RUMOURS,JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD TAKE NOTICE OF YOUR POST,BITCH!!!
I ALSO NOTICED YOU NEVER MENTIONED CIGGY AND I FOR MONTHS,UNTIL YOU FOUND I WAS POSTING AT HPANWO...WAS THIS THE BIGGEST BUNGLE YOU AND YOUR ILK MADE,I KNOW SO,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,F*CK YOU....
ALL THIS JUST TO RAISE YOUR READERSHIP...IF YOU WERE'NT SUCH A SPASTIC,YOU'D STILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE,THE DAVID ICKE FORUMS...NER,NER,NER,NER


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pig pig pig pig

tongue tongue tongue tongue

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:I just sent Alison (I am) an email of this thread with your accusations about Ozpixie.As long as it don't go against their non-disclosure agreement,I asked her to inform Christine of this thread and to please give me information why True Lilly,(mental basket case spastic bitch),why would one of Gods' anointed would make such a claim?

I also asked for information about you madam...not where you live,but what you've done to others and the games and back-stabbing you involve yourself with,thankyou Lulzy for admitting this,it was arsehole game players is why I left DIF in the end,but I might just re-activate my account...and keep a low profile...the rant room is too tempting....And you know why arsehole???I'll rant every thread you've done,lost in the bowels of the rant room...Then,I'll ask Ozpixie to take you to court over your accusations,by using the police,(they'll help her...then when it's thrown out of court cause we just found out you're a registered mental patient...a real one!!!...then I will be ever so sorry I spoke ill to you...and forgive you for your harassment and games you play...if not,you're gonna look stupid,at any rate...and if Ozpixie does cough up...and reveals your lies and games the same as everyone else asserts,then your readers,must be as mental and fucked in the head as you...have a nice day.

and just to let the discerning reader know...

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:Hey Mental Patient,since you assert that you can answer questions,without spam I hope,...

What justifies you calling Christine/Ozpixie a goat fucker and that she makes men do it for bribery purposes???

Would you not consider that the men would rather f*ck Ozpixie than goats...but the possibilty is,that the men might rather f*ck a goat than some broken shrunken imp of a person such as yourself???

Why do you always label people goat,dog/fuckers,peadophiles?I have,but they and I know the truth of it...Even proved a few things that go on deaf ears.

You're sick Suzy,real sick...if you get sanctioned in a mental home,I'll forgive you,but you're on the street being a danger to yourself and everybody else...I can con a mental health team Suzy,5 minute chat with you,they'll never let you out,they hate God botherers the most in psyche-wards,drug the absolute crap out of them...


Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:

So,where is the sex/porn spam,do you still think beastiality is natural sex???You see,Lilly,it's about interpretations,what you view as natural and loving,the law of the land regards as perverse and criminal...but in danger of giving the judge an erection
...and your 'double speak' is so weak and transparent...could it be that
you are the local horse rapist that the judges keep letting off...
true lilly wrote:sadly, some 'sick puppies' are so sick, a bullet's their only 'cure'... ...
... or you could simply 'you' 'ninny' 'billy' goat shagger's...

...umm, so 'you' do 'know' Christine in your satanic biblical sense, that local
animal raping ex-copper's witch...
...she couldn't get enough of making men fcuk goats...them blackmailing them...
...to stay in her sick death circles forever...I did warn people about her, years ago,
back in the ATS days...mind you, she and her ilk are a dime a dozen cheap slags...
...I'm sure you can find another if she's no longer available...now go, to
your own kind...I can't even pity you...


Are you kidding...No,this comes from the lips of True Lilly,it's all batshit...

Lilly,stop telling lies and no,I don't know Christine/OzPixie...Imagine that eh?David Icke Forum Moderators are either Illuminati Shills like Dark Eternal or goat fucking satanist like OzPixie,cause True Lilly tells me so...

No Lilly,I don't think they'll let you back on DIF....EVER.


DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN TRUE LILLY,EVERYONE YOU TAKE A DISLIKE TOO,IS PAINTED A GOATFUCKER,BABYFUCKER OR SOMETHING ELSE.YOU HAVE ISSUES IN THIS AREA,AND IT'S ALL TO DO WITH YOUR PERCEPTION OF YOURSELF.IF YOU WERE MADE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG,IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT,IF YOU INSTIGATED IT,THEN GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON...YOU POINT THE FINGER SUZY,BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE FIGURED YOU OUT,READ YOUR PM ABOUT YOUR FAMILY...


Billy Ruben wrote:This is not such a bad way to go actually,my way,I would've destroyed you,but the fall-out for me would be just as bad...this way,we can deal with the FACTS as you've claimed...

Once you have no credibilty,you can post spam to the wall,cause there is no-way anyone will believe you...Hey,how come you have'nt called in the cavalry??? (hOrSeY-Palomino)...when it gets out of control you usually sink to every method that you accuse David Icke and Tintin of...
Gang-stalking,harassment,etc...when the dust settles,was that one little lie that kicked this all off a year ago,...Was it All Worth It?

Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Nothing 'private' about this, 'you' 'ninny nong'...

So, which is it?
"Billy Ruben" makes a serious threat, or, he's all lying talk?


From Billy Ruben To true lilly, Today at 4:28 pm
____________________________________________________________________

true lilly wrote:
So, you still haven't figured out why the smarter ones hand-balled you this:
"Keep pushing and I'll destroy you good and proper.", job.
_____________________________________________________________________

quote:Billy Ruben


your a goner mate...
_____________________________________________________________________

Either way...'you & Ciggy' simply shouldn't have spammed, my one thread,
with 'you & Ciggy's' endless public 'conversations' about 'you & Ciggy's'
'beliefs' on when a child is too young or too related to lust after
, and then
stepped up 'your' phone and on line harassment, when I asked 'you', again,
to remove that, utterly sick, way off topic, 'conversation' of 'yours',
from my thread, that was 'chopped up' to have 'those conversations'
of 'you & Ciggy', head and end the pages, as if it where my topic...and then cry,
rant, libel, make endless personal threats and try to sound like 'you'
AND 'your' supportive ASSOCIATES are 'good guys'.


Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.

this is what I mean't you're a goner,you think I'd martyr you...hehehehe,that's how you think,idiot,no,a living permanenet death...I destroyed every credible shred you ever had or beLIEved you had.

This is what I am had to say,the truth...you're a disgusting spiteful shitbag of a person Suzy Ryan...if I get a chance,I'll f*ck you over in court
...Alison won't even show Ozpixie your stuff and I don't blame her,Ozpixie to me was like an Aussie Antiem,a very nice young lady,but Antiem shocked me with her strengths,I always thought Ozpixie was a little softy,like Curtain Cat,very lovely girls...You spiteful stale withered shitbag of a woman,I HATE you properly now...and have no shame in how I treat you,exactly how I treat demons,what I say to them,made them weep...you I will break...I am an old demon in transition,anything that tries stopping me in future,I'll swat,as I do to roaches...





the only thing being threatened is what little credibilty you think you had...call the police,go on,dare you,send your bald headed mate up,I'm in pretty good shape compared to yesterday.F*CK YOU!!!

sucked in...you make me ill...


True Lilly,puts her foot in it:
Mind you, as 'Billy Ruben & Ciggy' thought it funny at the time of 'that conversation',
that I should ask them to stop spamming my thread with 'their' sick 'fishing', and that
'he' keeps bringing it up, I'd say it's something else that has 'them' worried...as it should.


Thankyou Suzy,that's exactly what I said,spam a True Lilly shitbox thread to make it interesting and you get painted as a child molester...exactly what I've been saying.

The only disappointing aspect,is you're proving me dead-on with no effort needed,this is all to easy...


THIS SUPER-SPAM CAN BE ALOT OF FUN AND ANNOYANCE,THANKYOU TRUE LILLY,FOR INTIATING ME IN THE SCHOOL OF SECRET ARTS...


Billy Ruben wrote:yeah,we remember the car-bombing,you lied and bullshitted about that one too...and sent us a pic of some woman walking a dog as proof,yeah,credible honest god fearing suzy fuckwit ryan...

Billy Ruben wrote:NOW THAT YOU SLYLY ADMIT YOU'RE TORTURING THOSE CATS IN YOUR YARD,LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECT A PATHETIC SLAG LIKE YOU TO DO,JUST TO UPSET ME,WELL F*CK YOU SUZY RYAN,A CAT'S LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A 1000 OF YOURS,I DON'T CARE WHO SEES THIS OR DISGUSTED WITH ME OR EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,BUT I SWEAR,I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU AND TEACH YOU WHAT PAIN IS...I SPENT 4 HOURS ON THE NET,LAST NIGHT USING THE WHITE PAGES,BITCH LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A REGISTERED ADDRESS ON A NORMAL PHONE LINE,SO YEAH,I' NOT TAKING YOUR SHIT THIS TIME...FUCKING DIE BITCH...

GINGER AND WHITE CATS I LOVE AND ADORE,I WAS LAST YEAR,GOING TO DRIVE THERE JUST TO TAKE ONE OR TWO OFF YOUR HANDS...BUT F*CK YOU...YOU DEAD TO ME...

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Billy Ruben wrote:...As I and many of you suspected,there was no car bombing,to True Lilly/Vera Susa/Suzy Ryan.Made good on a threat I made to her and rang the police to have her charged with defamation,to myself,her ex-husband and everyone else she has pointed a finger at for the last five years.We went through every detail,including her husband,whom they are tracking down,to give what information I was able to convey to him.

I enquired,she'd be easy to remember,she had a car bombing and put in hospital twice through beatings,not one detail was on file,nor could any officer at the station remember it.SHE'S A TOTAL FAKE ARSE FRAUD....IT'S OUT,SHE PLAYED YOU PEOPLE GOOD AND PROPER FOR YEARS,WHOEVER BOUGHT IT,YOU GULLIBLE LITTLE FOOLS.

Anyway,today is to be counted as great vfictory for truth and sanity,rest assured,the fool thinks she can spam this under the carpet,but it won't work,with due dilligence and participation by all.

You have a duty to do so,The Craig Oxley site went down,so full rebuttals are needed here.

I will not bend,tomorrow,it's the mental health authorities.I did'nt really want her charged,I just wanted her to make a scene with the police,so they lock her in the loonie bin,when that happens,it's usually for 6 months,scheduled.Which she needs for her and your safety.I will not back down and continue with this grubby war against the dragon,my boots are worn and could do with a new shod of leather.Hate her with a passion and will endeavor my best to garner a result.

I just wanted all her enemies to know and understand,everything she ever said,was a hoax,a lie and an attempt to gain favour by readership or money from you,the extortionist bitch.She'll try this on someone in real life and that will be the end of her,good and proper,you'll be reading about her soon enough,not enduring her slabs of lies for much longer and for that,I thankyou,Suzy Ryan.

fup butt rolf lol!
Billy Ruben wrote:
Billy Ruben wrote:WELL,THAT WAS INTERESTING,JUST HAD A CHAT WITH BALLARAT POLICE,ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PRESS CHARGES (INTERNET STALKING),CAUSE I'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH HER,BUT TINTIN,"I AM" AND OTHERS,CAN PRESS CHARGES....BUT THE BEST BIT...GET READY...HE CONFIRMED FOR ME....HAHAHAHAHAHA rolf ...THERE HAS BEEN NO CAR BOMBINGS IN VICTORIA FOR 30 YEARS AND THAT WAS RUSSELL STREET BOMBINGS AND SUZY RYAN HAS NOT BEEN BEAT UP AND PUT IN HOSPITAL TWICE...NOW HOW ABOUT THAT.I MENTIONED HER HUSBAND,BILL RYAN A SERVING POLICE OFFICER AND ADMITTED I'M THE SON OF A GAOL WARDEN AND FREEMASON MYSELF...IS THERE NO HOPE FOR THE WIDOWS SON?,HEHEHEHEHE,MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES WILL BE CONTACTED AFTER 9 AM TOMORROW AND I'LL INFORM THE FORUM OF THE PROGRESS FROM THERE,WHAT A REVELATION EH?...WE ALL KNEW OR SUSPECTED SHE'S FULL OF SHIT...BUT THIS IS A VICTORY,MOST BEAUTIFUL...AND FOR THAT,I THANKYOU SUZY RYAN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
thumbs up rolf

Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .




Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...
rolf

tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:I noticed that when you Google, "vera susa david icke", this thread is on the First Page. So Please, read a random selection of "BILLY RUBEN" posts, TO SEE that 'that name' IS A DEMON OBSESSED, MENTALLY ILL (by his own BRAGGING words), BAD LIAR...BAD IN SPIRIT and BAD in that he CAN'T STICK TO THE SAME LIE, IN ONE INCESTUOUS PAEDOPHILE PROMOTING Post. So Thanks, "BILLY RUBEN", getting bitter rants from "you", THREATENING ME WITH ANOTHER CAR BOMB and OTHER VIOLENCE AGAINST MY PERSON AND MY PETS (the Stolen, Dehidrated and Starved "GINGER and WHITE CAT", "you" THREATENED TO STEAL, made it back home, recovered and RAISED HER LARGEST and STRONGEST Litter ever!), gives people GOOD REASON TO READ WHAT "YOU" ARE DESPERATE TO PREVENT PEOPLE READING...posts by 'vera susa'/'true lilly', who SHOWS, THE CONspiracy Of The CONspiracy Industry IS TO SLANDER THE CREATOR OF LIFE, AND SO, DRIVE THE WORLD TO BOW TO THE BEAST.


lying fucking bitch,every word of it and you fool no-one,there's new members here,fully aware of your decrepid dying spirit.Not one word does anyone believe of you,but at least you can see why people beat you up and I would do the same,if you were local and handy,not to use my fist,but to kick you as the low dugfucker that you are,then expectorate upon your mashed in face,you're not worth blowing one's nose on,filth,un-woman like and not up to the spiritual worth,to deliver Gods word.The only idiot that does'nt get it,is stubborn fuckwit you,where's hOrSeY?,burned him like everybody else,by now,what,you blackmailed him to do your bidding before,now he's not here and the harassment is much worse than last time.You lost your own family through your schizoid ramblings,they turned on you,not conspired,because you're a basket case,it was sad to learn at first,but seeing the way you really are spastic,I applaud your former husband,getting them out and to a safer,much more loving woman than you could ever be,you're an incubator,not a woman.
Billy Ruben wrote:CARRY ON WITH YOUR SHIT AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE,YOU JUST GAVE AWAY WHY YOU MOUTH OFF ABOUT TINTIN,CAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOT TOO MUCH INTEGRITY TO BOTHER WITH A LOSER LIKE YOU AND FOR THAT,I THANK YOU...BUT YOU HAVE MADE PROGRESS,YOU ADMIT YOU'RE NOT RESPECTFUL,EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALMIGHTY,YOU FINALLY GET IT MADAM...BY YOUR OWN WORDS AND KICKED AN "OWN GOAL"...GOOD GIRL MADAM,GOOD GIRL...YOU KNOW HOW TO PLEASE ME AFTER ALL....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA rolf
[quote=”Billy Ruben”]
THREATENED TO STEAL...i OFFERED TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND BACK,$600-700 IN FUEL,TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT...F*CK YOU.

EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF THAT,WHEN THEY READ THIS...I WOULD'NT HURT AN ANIMAL,BUT I'D KICK YOU LOWER THAN ANY DOG...LYING BAG OF SHIT...HATE YOU... cthulhu [/quote]
DESPITE MY ILL FEELING ON OCCASSION TO SOD AND MANAGEMENT HERE,I TAKE THE TIME TO APOLOGISE,PUTTING YOU UNDER PRESSURE WITH THE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS I CAUSE AND FOR BEING FAIR ABOUT IT AND STAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THIS EVENT,HAMMERS ITSELF OUT.IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYONE,ESPECIALLY ME,WHEN SO MUCH BETTER THINGS CAN BE WRITTEN,DISCUSSED AND OBSERVED...ONCE THE DRAGON,USES ITS DUNGEON,IT'LL BE LEFT ALONE,TO ITS DEVICES AND SHE CAN SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS ABOUT PEOPLE...BUT AT LEAST SHE KNOWS HER PLACE...AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL KNOW,JUST HOW SPITEFUL AND PATHETIC,IT REALLY IS...THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,BILLY.
true lilly wrote:Talk about full blow delusions...
what doesn't 'Jason'/'Billy Ruben' GET, about BEING IGNORED,
that he simply has to keep texting me about what he's posting?

And despite contradicting himself with and within every text, he's
still hanging onto some insane idea that he's 'winning'?... something???

e.g. the latest just in:

Billy Ruben wrote:Making progress r
we,god stopping
me,no,ur faith must
be shattered,he looks
after me very
well,bitch
...and what doesn't he get about 'them'
(those 'respected' people
he 'defends' ),
trying and failing to 'shatter my faith'
for 50 years, that he believes his overtly
erratic, filthy, violent, mind, could even
come close to breaking my faith in The God,
Who, he and all of 'them', so violently hate?

Especially when all he is doing, is breaking,
'their' (those 'respected' people's), cove
r 'as',
'worthy of respect', by putting himself up as
'their'
Twisted Evil satanic blood ritual practicing occultist,
supporter and defender.
Twisted Evil

well,that was a heap of shit bitch,about as reasoning as this video.Nah,I just shit stir you about God,I kind of think you don't deserve to know him,but come to think of it,you need it more than most...and a little therapy and a heavy regimen of anti-psychotics that you avoid so dilligently,until I ring the mental health authorities come Monday morning.But I have the pleasure,to know,to avoid capture,you'll renounce God,to stay out the loonie bin,that's how I'll rig it...

rolf tongue pig Razz lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:When I push you over the edge and you pull Mr Policeman on me,like I want you too Wink ,I have your former husbands' name here,which will come in very handy.Tell me,if your kids seen this,would they be so supportive of you,if they knew you call daddy a baby raping goat fucker?I want to cost you dearly madam,for your years of lies and baseless and groundless accusations,did your husband spam your thread too,Lying C*nt,I bet...

true lilly wrote:ICKE, ASSange, BILL RYAN, CIGGY,
TINTIN, CORI, and so on and on the list
of CON Industry PUSHERS goes...and made
FILTHY 'RICH' through 'their' WORK as
MASS ANTI-SOCIAL MANIPULATORS, who
HATE
me FOR being CONTENT with ENOUGH,
NOT
ENVYING NOR HATING THE 'TRULY WEALTHY'.
Wink

Learn something about cops,they're not in it for justice,they look after their own,corrupt and facilitate evil,you'd better watch it Suzy,Victorian Cops are'nt as lenient as NSW cops,they shoot mental patients down your way,set you up,you'll start rambling with a kitchen knife...and BLAM!!!,they put the rabid idiot out to pasture for ever and ever.Amen...Amen-Ra

pig pig
Ok,I know it does'nt suit your arguement,that you keep insisting I have mates and that I'd bother to tell them about this,or would get them involved like you did with Palomino,Sod and any other idiot who had the guts to front up.F*ck you,the last thing I want,is Tintin,coming here,wasting his time,like I do,highlighting your lies that are endless, and when one fails,you invent another,like the injured cats you schizoid shitbag...BUT,you never admit your filthy tactics and the knowledge you get from others,so I'm sending you down the path that I went through with my niece and family,which broke my heart and probably the reason,I MIGHT be developing a serious condition,it's just the doctors word I repeat,but not accept,until the fat lady sings,bitch.

As I've said over and over again,retarded one,I have no dealings with Tintin,never spoke to him,if I did,I forgot,obviously.Cori refused to answer me as well,I don't fight for them,I'm using your lies as an example...you are very ungrateful for all the good Tintin did for you,and it's scum like you,that make people lose faith in people and God,who'd follow it,if you're an example of it.I backstabbed a few at DIF and my own friends,first time I ever did it in my life,was the last 18 months,I warned Colin for years,change your attitude,stop the bullshit,lies and rumours you say about your friends and family,the same with Boots and Limelady,they never listened,so I did them.There was a lot of so-called friends,pretending to be one at David Icke forums,whilst keeping me in the dark,of what was being said,and colluding with the bullshit...but I always knew,I just spook them with it,just to let them know,how transparent they always were to me...and I'm proud of it.

Any other hunk of shit you want to bring up.Mountain was a very nice girl there for a while too,I hated her,when she listened to Pinkfreud about me being in love with her,no I was'nt,I just propped her up,cause she was having very big problems at the time with Jose,her guy...as she turned out,she was one of the worst judas's of the lot(Pinkfreud),the very day she got mod-ship,she vowed to f*ck Sean over...I have the PM's,I can screen capture now...do you understand how much I can f*ck these people over know???LOL,ROFLMAO,thankyou,John Drake,love you on the very rare occassion.I have'nt even begun,to stick that knife in real good...and just wait until the people see Limeladies and my last PM together...and the fools who believed I was rude to her...no,I was'nt and Size of Light and Merlincove and Shodan all seen it,but not one,not one of them...supported me...how about that eh?...and look what come out of it.Yeah,I'm consumed by hate for alot of people I used to love...and they deserved every bit of it...and I have'nt even begun to prove it.Oh,I forgave Mountain,you can't stay angry at her,not her fault,she was friends with that lot for years,but she should've stayed out of it...and not spread rumours.Even Hadabusa dropped me from his friends list,how'd the f*ck did he get it wrong,I loved that guy...but he bought the bullshit.I wanted him here,so we could have some fun.That's all...ah,but fark ya's,you all fail before me,as weak people,not to be counted on...in a nutshell,I look after number one these days,you offer me nothing,except target practice...Up Yours,the lot of you...


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Billy Ruben wrote:
true lilly wrote:Unhived Mind Website Taken Down...!!!
true lilly wrote:Very Happy Wink Very Happy Wink
Fine by me,
I got all of my thread on that site,
on hard copy.
Wink Laughing

Unfortunately, Team Tintin have been flat out,
re-writing all his myths (as if actual history),
on "tintin's", "The News Behind The News" thread,
at .




Fortunately, the readership of that thread has plummeted.
Wink Very Happy Laughing Wink

SO WHAT,WHO'D BELIEVE YOU ANYWAY...DON'T HAVE THOSE PHOTOS DO YOU???...OF SAY...A CAR BOMBING???...THOUGHT SO... thumbs down

ps,SHE DOES'NT HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THE HUMILIATION THERE ANY MORE,CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE HAPPY...I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WONDER WOMAN HAD TO SAY TO YOU...


rolf rolf rolf rolf

LULZ,
so has yours significantly,the Lying Conspiracy has'nt been bumped since Christmas,ROFLMAO,hypocrite...and you're still posting shit from Oxleys site,passing it off as "NEW" news....dribbling on the floor,gasping for air laughter...

rolf rolf rolf rolf
true lilly wrote:Seriously 'Jason',
how can 'they' keep going around
charging people to be hypnotized,
to believe they were healed 'by jayssusss'
(who the schills pocketing the dough,
claim to 'channel' Rolling Eyes),
when you're running around telling the world that
all your best 'mates'
(the one's you're 'defending', 'from' me???),
are blood sacrificing satanists???


And then there's all those other,
butter wouldn't melt in their
(stone, cold, dead), mouths,
(ANTI) 'social worker' types, who
teach children how to 'stay out of trouble',
when committing the criminal acts that
'they' have also taught them.

You know, all those who go around
wearing a mask of 'respectability'
while laughing at the their victims
for not smelling the devil behind the mask.

And still the texts continue; ha! and proving
'Billy Ruben' can't even grasp that concept.

The idiot doesn't know the difference between,
'a mask of respectability' and
'being worthy of respect'...or does, and believes
that the former has more 'currency',
simply because,
The Mask Wearing Demons, Out-Number
the humble little good guys...but 'they' always,
fail to take into account, that,
The Perfect Accountant IS Keeping Perfect Account.

...and that, not only are, wolves hiding among the sheep...
...but watchmen, are hidden amongst the wolves...



JUST HAD TO DELELE THE OTHER WORTHLESS SHIT,SO WE CAN DEAL WITH YOUR WORTHLESS LIES...THE PREFECT ACCOUNTANT EH?THE OMNIPOTENT ONE,RIGHTO,WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT LIARS,SLANDERERS,AND CONSPIRATIST SPEAKING AND PREACHING IN HIS NAME...AND ASKING FOR MONEY,WELL?...HUMBLE LITTLE GUYS,YOU'RE CALLING PEOPLE TOGETHER,TRYING TO SCARE ME OFF,I'M THE LONER HERE SWEETIE,YOU SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ARSE,EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR PATTERNS,EVEN ON THESE THREADS YOU URGE TO ATTACK OTHERS,ALL THE TIME,SHOVE IT AND YOUR LIES UP YOUR AHAIRY ARSE,I HATE YOU...AND WILL FINISH WITH YOU,WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED,GO ON,ADMIT HOW MANY TIMES YOU CONSPIRED ON ME AND IT BLEW BACK IN YOUR FACE,THAT,MY DEAR,IS HOW GOD WORKS,YOU KNOW HIM NOT,I DON'T HIDE MY INTENTION,I ANNOUNCE THEM BEFORE I DO THEM,UP YOURS SUZY RYAN,I GIVE NOT A TOSS FOR YOUR LIES,INTERPRETATIONS OR WELL-BEING,OK?...YOU'VE GONE WAY OVER THE LINE,YOU LAUGH AT MY ILLNESS,I WANT YOU DEAD,OK?,NOW YOU KNOW.
Billy Ruben wrote:so,everything True lilly says is the opposite...and a fooking lie...

lets investigate the reversal to her name

TRUE = LYING
LILLY = VAGINA

PUT TOGETHER...

LYING C*NT...THAT'S YOUR NAME FOR NOW ON SHITBAG...



thumbs up lmao
Billy Ruben wrote:I might just start hunting around for what I really believe,you've been lying about money and more than one occassion try to extort or will it away from people.

YOU SEE TRUE LILLY,YOU'RE SO LUCKY,TINTIN IS SUCH A GENTLEMAN WITH INTEGRITY AND WOULD'NT WASTE HIS TIME ARGUING WITH A SCHIZOID LIKE YOU,SULLYING HIS NAME TO DEFEND AGAINST YOUR LIES AND ACCUSATIONS...OTHERWISE,I'D UTILIZE EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO BREAK YOU.NO HOLDS BARRED.MY NAME IS MUD LONG AGO,SO DO YOU THINK I CARE HOW I LOOK,NO....BUT MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN YOU WILL EVER BE,CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A NORMAL PERSON.NOTICE KABONG AND I HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THAT WOODSTOCK THREAD AND YOU COME ALONG,SEE,THERE'S NOTHING TO YOU BUT MINDLESS LIES AND DRIVEL....HAHAHAHAHAHA,I STILL HAVE MY FAMILY AFTER REAL TRIALS MADAM,I DO MORE OF GODS WORK THAN YOU'LL EVER COMPREHEND,YOU'RE NOTHING...BUT A MORONIC SCHIZOID AND A DANGEROUS ONE... thumbs up
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/adult/grampians-a.htm






think I'm bluffing,guess again,have no shame in this and will rejoice the victory I have in mind for you...and I promise to pay one visit to you,just for that glee,that satisfaction and I gaze into those vacant scared eyes of yours,you want to be scared Suzy Ryan...you want to be...and we'll find,if your name is Suzy Ryan and someone you're setting up for the fall,such is the amount of lies and bullshit."I Am" was right about you fucktard,"She does'nt half talk a load of shit" and when people see you laugh at my condition and lie about the cats,you'll lose even more of your lousy readership,ha!,you already have,hahahahahaha,you're irrelevant and imbecilic rolf
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